What’s the distance from a school where they will not rezone you?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:With all this redrawing the boundaries talk, is there a distance you live from a school where they will not be allowed to change your designated school? Like if you live on the same block as a school? If you’re considered a walker and don’t have an assigned bus? If you live within a half mile? Or is no one safe?

No one is safe. You can live .20 miles from a school and walk but you are not assigned to that school. The Horizon Hill neighborhood is still a huge issue because they are zoned to Ritchie Park (bus transportation) a school which is overcapacity while they could be walkers to Cold Spring ES, which is underutilized. If schools were centrally located in their zoned area then this is an easier topic. School boundaries should be looked at as neighborhoods do go through periods of increase and decreases of school aged kids.

"Safe"

Here's a helpful guide...

If you live 0.20 miles from School X, but you are assigned to School Y, then you ARE NOT a walker to School X.
If you live 0.20 miles from School X, and you are assigned to School X, but you get bus service, then you ARE NOT a walker to School X.
If you live 0.20 miles from School X, and you are assigned to School X, and you are in School X's walk zone, then you ARE a walker to School X.

Posters seem to be having trouble understanding these ideas, and I don't understand why.

Sibling 1 is .20 miles from School X and a walker assigned to School X then rezoning happens and Sibling 2 is .20 from School X and is assigned now to School Y. So yes it has happened and my exact point. Obviously you are not local to the area and have no concept of how rezoning works. This is the exact thing that happened to Wootton/RM and other schools. Schools are not perfectly built in the middle of their zoned areas.

I think everyone can agree that schools are not all in the middle of their zoned areas. But you are missing the PP's point. Which is about the present-day MCPS practice of keeping students who already walk to their assigned school as walkers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:With all this redrawing the boundaries talk, is there a distance you live from a school where they will not be allowed to change your designated school? Like if you live on the same block as a school? If you’re considered a walker and don’t have an assigned bus? If you live within a half mile? Or is no one safe?

No one is safe. You can live .20 miles from a school and walk but you are not assigned to that school. The Horizon Hill neighborhood is still a huge issue because they are zoned to Ritchie Park (bus transportation) a school which is overcapacity while they could be walkers to Cold Spring ES, which is underutilized. If schools were centrally located in their zoned area then this is an easier topic. School boundaries should be looked at as neighborhoods do go through periods of increase and decreases of school aged kids.

"Safe"

Here's a helpful guide...

If you live 0.20 miles from School X, but you are assigned to School Y, then you ARE NOT a walker to School X.
If you live 0.20 miles from School X, and you are assigned to School X, but you get bus service, then you ARE NOT a walker to School X.
If you live 0.20 miles from School X, and you are assigned to School X, and you are in School X's walk zone, then you ARE a walker to School X.

Posters seem to be having trouble understanding these ideas, and I don't understand why.

Sibling 1 is .20 miles from School X and a walker assigned to School X then rezoning happens and Sibling 2 is .20 from School X and is assigned now to School Y. So yes it has happened and my exact point. Obviously you are not local to the area and have no concept of how rezoning works. This is the exact thing that happened to Wootton/RM and other schools. Schools are not perfectly built in the middle of their zoned areas.

In 1987. Why do people keep bringing up a decision that MCPS made in 1987, as though it were still relevant in 2023?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:With all this redrawing the boundaries talk, is there a distance you live from a school where they will not be allowed to change your designated school? Like if you live on the same block as a school? If you’re considered a walker and don’t have an assigned bus? If you live within a half mile? Or is no one safe?

No one is safe. You can live .20 miles from a school and walk but you are not assigned to that school. The Horizon Hill neighborhood is still a huge issue because they are zoned to Ritchie Park (bus transportation) a school which is overcapacity while they could be walkers to Cold Spring ES, which is underutilized. If schools were centrally located in their zoned area then this is an easier topic. School boundaries should be looked at as neighborhoods do go through periods of increase and decreases of school aged kids.

"Safe"

Here's a helpful guide...

If you live 0.20 miles from School X, but you are assigned to School Y, then you ARE NOT a walker to School X.
If you live 0.20 miles from School X, and you are assigned to School X, but you get bus service, then you ARE NOT a walker to School X.
If you live 0.20 miles from School X, and you are assigned to School X, and you are in School X's walk zone, then you ARE a walker to School X.

Posters seem to be having trouble understanding these ideas, and I don't understand why.

Sibling 1 is .20 miles from School X and a walker assigned to School X then rezoning happens and Sibling 2 is .20 from School X and is assigned now to School Y. So yes it has happened and my exact point. Obviously you are not local to the area and have no concept of how rezoning works. This is the exact thing that happened to Wootton/RM and other schools. Schools are not perfectly built in the middle of their zoned areas.

In 1987. Why do people keep bringing up a decision that MCPS made in 1987, as though it were still relevant in 2023?

dp.. well, we'll see if they rezone that area that is a walk zone to Wootton back to Wootton when Crown HS is built. If they do, then we can see MCPS is serious about walk zones; if they don't, then we know diversity is more important than walk zone.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:With all this redrawing the boundaries talk, is there a distance you live from a school where they will not be allowed to change your designated school? Like if you live on the same block as a school? If you’re considered a walker and don’t have an assigned bus? If you live within a half mile? Or is no one safe?

No one is safe. You can live .20 miles from a school and walk but you are not assigned to that school. The Horizon Hill neighborhood is still a huge issue because they are zoned to Ritchie Park (bus transportation) a school which is overcapacity while they could be walkers to Cold Spring ES, which is underutilized. If schools were centrally located in their zoned area then this is an easier topic. School boundaries should be looked at as neighborhoods do go through periods of increase and decreases of school aged kids.

"Safe"

Here's a helpful guide...

If you live 0.20 miles from School X, but you are assigned to School Y, then you ARE NOT a walker to School X.
If you live 0.20 miles from School X, and you are assigned to School X, but you get bus service, then you ARE NOT a walker to School X.
If you live 0.20 miles from School X, and you are assigned to School X, and you are in School X's walk zone, then you ARE a walker to School X.

Posters seem to be having trouble understanding these ideas, and I don't understand why.

Sibling 1 is .20 miles from School X and a walker assigned to School X then rezoning happens and Sibling 2 is .20 from School X and is assigned now to School Y. So yes it has happened and my exact point. Obviously you are not local to the area and have no concept of how rezoning works. This is the exact thing that happened to Wootton/RM and other schools. Schools are not perfectly built in the middle of their zoned areas.

In 1987. Why do people keep bringing up a decision that MCPS made in 1987, as though it were still relevant in 2023?

dp.. well, we'll see if they rezone that area that is a walk zone to Wootton back to Wootton when Crown HS is built. If they do, then we can see MCPS is serious about walk zones; if they don't, then we know diversity is more important than walk zone.

Horizon Hill is not a walk zone to Wootton because Horizon Hill is not assigned to Wootton. To repeat:

Here's a helpful guide...

If you live 0.20 miles from School X, but you are assigned to School Y, then you ARE NOT a walker to School X.
If you live 0.20 miles from School X, and you are assigned to School X, but you get bus service, then you ARE NOT a walker to School X.
If you live 0.20 miles from School X, and you are assigned to School X, and you are in School X's walk zone, then you ARE a walker to School X.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:With all this redrawing the boundaries talk, is there a distance you live from a school where they will not be allowed to change your designated school? Like if you live on the same block as a school? If you’re considered a walker and don’t have an assigned bus? If you live within a half mile? Or is no one safe?

No one is safe. You can live .20 miles from a school and walk but you are not assigned to that school. The Horizon Hill neighborhood is still a huge issue because they are zoned to Ritchie Park (bus transportation) a school which is overcapacity while they could be walkers to Cold Spring ES, which is underutilized. If schools were centrally located in their zoned area then this is an easier topic. School boundaries should be looked at as neighborhoods do go through periods of increase and decreases of school aged kids.

"Safe"

Here's a helpful guide...

If you live 0.20 miles from School X, but you are assigned to School Y, then you ARE NOT a walker to School X.
If you live 0.20 miles from School X, and you are assigned to School X, but you get bus service, then you ARE NOT a walker to School X.
If you live 0.20 miles from School X, and you are assigned to School X, and you are in School X's walk zone, then you ARE a walker to School X.

Posters seem to be having trouble understanding these ideas, and I don't understand why.

Sibling 1 is .20 miles from School X and a walker assigned to School X then rezoning happens and Sibling 2 is .20 from School X and is assigned now to School Y. So yes it has happened and my exact point. Obviously you are not local to the area and have no concept of how rezoning works. This is the exact thing that happened to Wootton/RM and other schools. Schools are not perfectly built in the middle of their zoned areas.

In 1987. Why do people keep bringing up a decision that MCPS made in 1987, as though it were still relevant in 2023?

dp.. well, we'll see if they rezone that area that is a walk zone to Wootton back to Wootton when Crown HS is built. If they do, then we can see MCPS is serious about walk zones; if they don't, then we know diversity is more important than walk zone.

Horizon Hill is not a walk zone to Wootton because Horizon Hill is not assigned to Wootton. To repeat:

Here's a helpful guide...

If you live 0.20 miles from School X, but you are assigned to School Y, then you ARE NOT a walker to School X.
If you live 0.20 miles from School X, and you are assigned to School X, but you get bus service, then you ARE NOT a walker to School X.
If you live 0.20 miles from School X, and you are assigned to School X, and you are in School X's walk zone, then you ARE a walker to School X.

That's a radical concept. My head nearly exploded!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:With all this redrawing the boundaries talk, is there a distance you live from a school where they will not be allowed to change your designated school? Like if you live on the same block as a school? If you’re considered a walker and don’t have an assigned bus? If you live within a half mile? Or is no one safe?

No one is safe. You can live .20 miles from a school and walk but you are not assigned to that school. The Horizon Hill neighborhood is still a huge issue because they are zoned to Ritchie Park (bus transportation) a school which is overcapacity while they could be walkers to Cold Spring ES, which is underutilized. If schools were centrally located in their zoned area then this is an easier topic. School boundaries should be looked at as neighborhoods do go through periods of increase and decreases of school aged kids.

"Safe"

Here's a helpful guide...

If you live 0.20 miles from School X, but you are assigned to School Y, then you ARE NOT a walker to School X.
If you live 0.20 miles from School X, and you are assigned to School X, but you get bus service, then you ARE NOT a walker to School X.
If you live 0.20 miles from School X, and you are assigned to School X, and you are in School X's walk zone, then you ARE a walker to School X.

Posters seem to be having trouble understanding these ideas, and I don't understand why.

Sibling 1 is .20 miles from School X and a walker assigned to School X then rezoning happens and Sibling 2 is .20 from School X and is assigned now to School Y. So yes it has happened and my exact point. Obviously you are not local to the area and have no concept of how rezoning works. This is the exact thing that happened to Wootton/RM and other schools. Schools are not perfectly built in the middle of their zoned areas.

In 1987. Why do people keep bringing up a decision that MCPS made in 1987, as though it were still relevant in 2023?

dp.. well, we'll see if they rezone that area that is a walk zone to Wootton back to Wootton when Crown HS is built. If they do, then we can see MCPS is serious about walk zones; if they don't, then we know diversity is more important than walk zone.

Horizon Hill is not a walk zone to Wootton because Horizon Hill is not assigned to Wootton. To repeat:

Here's a helpful guide...

If you live 0.20 miles from School X, but you are assigned to School Y, then you ARE NOT a walker to School X.
If you live 0.20 miles from School X, and you are assigned to School X, but you get bus service, then you ARE NOT a walker to School X.
If you live 0.20 miles from School X, and you are assigned to School X, and you are in School X's walk zone, then you ARE a walker to School X.

HH was a walkzone to Wootton. They pulled HH out to RM for diversity.

If it wasn't a walkzone, then why did they not provide bus service?


https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1987/05/25/school-shift-stirs-rockville-dispute/a460e6bd-9d22-4b6d-a490-c8aef025f231/

They were walkers to Wootton. Now, they get bused.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:With all this redrawing the boundaries talk, is there a distance you live from a school where they will not be allowed to change your designated school? Like if you live on the same block as a school? If you’re considered a walker and don’t have an assigned bus? If you live within a half mile? Or is no one safe?

No one is safe. You can live .20 miles from a school and walk but you are not assigned to that school. The Horizon Hill neighborhood is still a huge issue because they are zoned to Ritchie Park (bus transportation) a school which is overcapacity while they could be walkers to Cold Spring ES, which is underutilized. If schools were centrally located in their zoned area then this is an easier topic. School boundaries should be looked at as neighborhoods do go through periods of increase and decreases of school aged kids.

"Safe"

Here's a helpful guide...

If you live 0.20 miles from School X, but you are assigned to School Y, then you ARE NOT a walker to School X.
If you live 0.20 miles from School X, and you are assigned to School X, but you get bus service, then you ARE NOT a walker to School X.
If you live 0.20 miles from School X, and you are assigned to School X, and you are in School X's walk zone, then you ARE a walker to School X.

Posters seem to be having trouble understanding these ideas, and I don't understand why.

Sibling 1 is .20 miles from School X and a walker assigned to School X then rezoning happens and Sibling 2 is .20 from School X and is assigned now to School Y. So yes it has happened and my exact point. Obviously you are not local to the area and have no concept of how rezoning works. This is the exact thing that happened to Wootton/RM and other schools. Schools are not perfectly built in the middle of their zoned areas.

In 1987. Why do people keep bringing up a decision that MCPS made in 1987, as though it were still relevant in 2023?

dp.. well, we'll see if they rezone that area that is a walk zone to Wootton back to Wootton when Crown HS is built. If they do, then we can see MCPS is serious about walk zones; if they don't, then we know diversity is more important than walk zone.

Horizon Hill is not a walk zone to Wootton because Horizon Hill is not assigned to Wootton. To repeat:

Here's a helpful guide...

If you live 0.20 miles from School X, but you are assigned to School Y, then you ARE NOT a walker to School X.
If you live 0.20 miles from School X, and you are assigned to School X, but you get bus service, then you ARE NOT a walker to School X.
If you live 0.20 miles from School X, and you are assigned to School X, and you are in School X's walk zone, then you ARE a walker to School X.

HH was a walkzone to Wootton. They pulled HH out to RM for diversity.

If it wasn't a walkzone, then why did they not provide bus service?


https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1987/05/25/school-shift-stirs-rockville-dispute/a460e6bd-9d22-4b6d-a490-c8aef025f231/

They were walkers to Wootton. Now, they get bused.

That was 35 years ago! We're talking about now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:With all this redrawing the boundaries talk, is there a distance you live from a school where they will not be allowed to change your designated school? Like if you live on the same block as a school? If you’re considered a walker and don’t have an assigned bus? If you live within a half mile? Or is no one safe?

No one is safe. You can live .20 miles from a school and walk but you are not assigned to that school. The Horizon Hill neighborhood is still a huge issue because they are zoned to Ritchie Park (bus transportation) a school which is overcapacity while they could be walkers to Cold Spring ES, which is underutilized. If schools were centrally located in their zoned area then this is an easier topic. School boundaries should be looked at as neighborhoods do go through periods of increase and decreases of school aged kids.

"Safe"

Here's a helpful guide...

If you live 0.20 miles from School X, but you are assigned to School Y, then you ARE NOT a walker to School X.
If you live 0.20 miles from School X, and you are assigned to School X, but you get bus service, then you ARE NOT a walker to School X.
If you live 0.20 miles from School X, and you are assigned to School X, and you are in School X's walk zone, then you ARE a walker to School X.

Posters seem to be having trouble understanding these ideas, and I don't understand why.

Sibling 1 is .20 miles from School X and a walker assigned to School X then rezoning happens and Sibling 2 is .20 from School X and is assigned now to School Y. So yes it has happened and my exact point. Obviously you are not local to the area and have no concept of how rezoning works. This is the exact thing that happened to Wootton/RM and other schools. Schools are not perfectly built in the middle of their zoned areas.

In 1987. Why do people keep bringing up a decision that MCPS made in 1987, as though it were still relevant in 2023?

dp.. well, we'll see if they rezone that area that is a walk zone to Wootton back to Wootton when Crown HS is built. If they do, then we can see MCPS is serious about walk zones; if they don't, then we know diversity is more important than walk zone.

Horizon Hill is not a walk zone to Wootton because Horizon Hill is not assigned to Wootton. To repeat:

Here's a helpful guide...

If you live 0.20 miles from School X, but you are assigned to School Y, then you ARE NOT a walker to School X.
If you live 0.20 miles from School X, and you are assigned to School X, but you get bus service, then you ARE NOT a walker to School X.
If you live 0.20 miles from School X, and you are assigned to School X, and you are in School X's walk zone, then you ARE a walker to School X.

HH was a walkzone to Wootton. They pulled HH out to RM for diversity.

If it wasn't a walkzone, then why did they not provide bus service?


https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1987/05/25/school-shift-stirs-rockville-dispute/a460e6bd-9d22-4b6d-a490-c8aef025f231/

They were walkers to Wootton. Now, they get bused.

In 1987. Nineteen eighty seven. 2023-1987 = 36 years ago. In 2023, which is now, Horizon Hill is not in the walk zone for Wootton (or Frost).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:With all this redrawing the boundaries talk, is there a distance you live from a school where they will not be allowed to change your designated school? Like if you live on the same block as a school? If you’re considered a walker and don’t have an assigned bus? If you live within a half mile? Or is no one safe?

No one is safe. You can live .20 miles from a school and walk but you are not assigned to that school. The Horizon Hill neighborhood is still a huge issue because they are zoned to Ritchie Park (bus transportation) a school which is overcapacity while they could be walkers to Cold Spring ES, which is underutilized. If schools were centrally located in their zoned area then this is an easier topic. School boundaries should be looked at as neighborhoods do go through periods of increase and decreases of school aged kids.

"Safe"

Here's a helpful guide...

If you live 0.20 miles from School X, but you are assigned to School Y, then you ARE NOT a walker to School X.
If you live 0.20 miles from School X, and you are assigned to School X, but you get bus service, then you ARE NOT a walker to School X.
If you live 0.20 miles from School X, and you are assigned to School X, and you are in School X's walk zone, then you ARE a walker to School X.

Posters seem to be having trouble understanding these ideas, and I don't understand why.

Sibling 1 is .20 miles from School X and a walker assigned to School X then rezoning happens and Sibling 2 is .20 from School X and is assigned now to School Y. So yes it has happened and my exact point. Obviously you are not local to the area and have no concept of how rezoning works. This is the exact thing that happened to Wootton/RM and other schools. Schools are not perfectly built in the middle of their zoned areas.

In 1987. Why do people keep bringing up a decision that MCPS made in 1987, as though it were still relevant in 2023?

dp.. well, we'll see if they rezone that area that is a walk zone to Wootton back to Wootton when Crown HS is built. If they do, then we can see MCPS is serious about walk zones; if they don't, then we know diversity is more important than walk zone.

Horizon Hill is not a walk zone to Wootton because Horizon Hill is not assigned to Wootton. To repeat:

Here's a helpful guide...

If you live 0.20 miles from School X, but you are assigned to School Y, then you ARE NOT a walker to School X.
If you live 0.20 miles from School X, and you are assigned to School X, but you get bus service, then you ARE NOT a walker to School X.
If you live 0.20 miles from School X, and you are assigned to School X, and you are in School X's walk zone, then you ARE a walker to School X.

HH was a walkzone to Wootton. They pulled HH out to RM for diversity.

If it wasn't a walkzone, then why did they not provide bus service?


https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1987/05/25/school-shift-stirs-rockville-dispute/a460e6bd-9d22-4b6d-a490-c8aef025f231/

They were walkers to Wootton. Now, they get bused.

In 1987. Nineteen eighty seven. 2023-1987 = 36 years ago. In 2023, which is now, Horizon Hill is not in the walk zone for Wootton (or Frost).

You're correct.. it's not because MCPS decided it was not. But, it was.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:With all this redrawing the boundaries talk, is there a distance you live from a school where they will not be allowed to change your designated school? Like if you live on the same block as a school? If you’re considered a walker and don’t have an assigned bus? If you live within a half mile? Or is no one safe?

No one is safe. You can live .20 miles from a school and walk but you are not assigned to that school. The Horizon Hill neighborhood is still a huge issue because they are zoned to Ritchie Park (bus transportation) a school which is overcapacity while they could be walkers to Cold Spring ES, which is underutilized. If schools were centrally located in their zoned area then this is an easier topic. School boundaries should be looked at as neighborhoods do go through periods of increase and decreases of school aged kids.

"Safe"

Here's a helpful guide...

If you live 0.20 miles from School X, but you are assigned to School Y, then you ARE NOT a walker to School X.
If you live 0.20 miles from School X, and you are assigned to School X, but you get bus service, then you ARE NOT a walker to School X.
If you live 0.20 miles from School X, and you are assigned to School X, and you are in School X's walk zone, then you ARE a walker to School X.

Posters seem to be having trouble understanding these ideas, and I don't understand why.

Sibling 1 is .20 miles from School X and a walker assigned to School X then rezoning happens and Sibling 2 is .20 from School X and is assigned now to School Y. So yes it has happened and my exact point. Obviously you are not local to the area and have no concept of how rezoning works. This is the exact thing that happened to Wootton/RM and other schools. Schools are not perfectly built in the middle of their zoned areas.

In 1987. Why do people keep bringing up a decision that MCPS made in 1987, as though it were still relevant in 2023?

dp.. well, we'll see if they rezone that area that is a walk zone to Wootton back to Wootton when Crown HS is built. If they do, then we can see MCPS is serious about walk zones; if they don't, then we know diversity is more important than walk zone.

Horizon Hill is not a walk zone to Wootton because Horizon Hill is not assigned to Wootton. To repeat:

Here's a helpful guide...

If you live 0.20 miles from School X, but you are assigned to School Y, then you ARE NOT a walker to School X.
If you live 0.20 miles from School X, and you are assigned to School X, but you get bus service, then you ARE NOT a walker to School X.
If you live 0.20 miles from School X, and you are assigned to School X, and you are in School X's walk zone, then you ARE a walker to School X.

HH was a walkzone to Wootton. They pulled HH out to RM for diversity.

If it wasn't a walkzone, then why did they not provide bus service?


https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1987/05/25/school-shift-stirs-rockville-dispute/a460e6bd-9d22-4b6d-a490-c8aef025f231/

They were walkers to Wootton. Now, they get bused.

In 1987. Nineteen eighty seven. 2023-1987 = 36 years ago. In 2023, which is now, Horizon Hill is not in the walk zone for Wootton (or Frost).

You're correct.. it's not because MCPS decided it was not. But, it was.

sorry.. typo..

It's not a walkzone now because MCPS decided it wasn't. But it was before.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:With all this redrawing the boundaries talk, is there a distance you live from a school where they will not be allowed to change your designated school? Like if you live on the same block as a school? If you’re considered a walker and don’t have an assigned bus? If you live within a half mile? Or is no one safe?

No one is safe. You can live .20 miles from a school and walk but you are not assigned to that school. The Horizon Hill neighborhood is still a huge issue because they are zoned to Ritchie Park (bus transportation) a school which is overcapacity while they could be walkers to Cold Spring ES, which is underutilized. If schools were centrally located in their zoned area then this is an easier topic. School boundaries should be looked at as neighborhoods do go through periods of increase and decreases of school aged kids.

"Safe"

Here's a helpful guide...

If you live 0.20 miles from School X, but you are assigned to School Y, then you ARE NOT a walker to School X.
If you live 0.20 miles from School X, and you are assigned to School X, but you get bus service, then you ARE NOT a walker to School X.
If you live 0.20 miles from School X, and you are assigned to School X, and you are in School X's walk zone, then you ARE a walker to School X.

Posters seem to be having trouble understanding these ideas, and I don't understand why.

Sibling 1 is .20 miles from School X and a walker assigned to School X then rezoning happens and Sibling 2 is .20 from School X and is assigned now to School Y. So yes it has happened and my exact point. Obviously you are not local to the area and have no concept of how rezoning works. This is the exact thing that happened to Wootton/RM and other schools. Schools are not perfectly built in the middle of their zoned areas.

In 1987. Why do people keep bringing up a decision that MCPS made in 1987, as though it were still relevant in 2023?

dp.. well, we'll see if they rezone that area that is a walk zone to Wootton back to Wootton when Crown HS is built. If they do, then we can see MCPS is serious about walk zones; if they don't, then we know diversity is more important than walk zone.

Horizon Hill is not a walk zone to Wootton because Horizon Hill is not assigned to Wootton. To repeat:

Here's a helpful guide...

If you live 0.20 miles from School X, but you are assigned to School Y, then you ARE NOT a walker to School X.
If you live 0.20 miles from School X, and you are assigned to School X, but you get bus service, then you ARE NOT a walker to School X.
If you live 0.20 miles from School X, and you are assigned to School X, and you are in School X's walk zone, then you ARE a walker to School X.

HH was a walkzone to Wootton. They pulled HH out to RM for diversity.

If it wasn't a walkzone, then why did they not provide bus service?


https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1987/05/25/school-shift-stirs-rockville-dispute/a460e6bd-9d22-4b6d-a490-c8aef025f231/

They were walkers to Wootton. Now, they get bused.

In 1987. Nineteen eighty seven. 2023-1987 = 36 years ago. In 2023, which is now, Horizon Hill is not in the walk zone for Wootton (or Frost).

You're correct.. it's not because MCPS decided it was not. But, it was.

That goes for every walk zone. Every walk zone is a walk zone because MCPS decided it was. Just like every bus zone is a bus zone because MCPS decided it was.

If you want MCPS to reassign Horizon Hill back to Wootton and Frost, maybe think of reasons why MCPS should do that now, within the framework of current MCPS policy on boundary studies - instead of carrying on about the 1987 (!!!!!) rezoning as though it were the worst injustice in the history of the world.

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Anonymous wrote:With all this redrawing the boundaries talk, is there a distance you live from a school where they will not be allowed to change your designated school? Like if you live on the same block as a school? If you’re considered a walker and don’t have an assigned bus? If you live within a half mile? Or is no one safe?

No one is safe. You can live .20 miles from a school and walk but you are not assigned to that school. The Horizon Hill neighborhood is still a huge issue because they are zoned to Ritchie Park (bus transportation) a school which is overcapacity while they could be walkers to Cold Spring ES, which is underutilized. If schools were centrally located in their zoned area then this is an easier topic. School boundaries should be looked at as neighborhoods do go through periods of increase and decreases of school aged kids.

"Safe"

Here's a helpful guide...

If you live 0.20 miles from School X, but you are assigned to School Y, then you ARE NOT a walker to School X.
If you live 0.20 miles from School X, and you are assigned to School X, but you get bus service, then you ARE NOT a walker to School X.
If you live 0.20 miles from School X, and you are assigned to School X, and you are in School X's walk zone, then you ARE a walker to School X.

Posters seem to be having trouble understanding these ideas, and I don't understand why.

Sibling 1 is .20 miles from School X and a walker assigned to School X then rezoning happens and Sibling 2 is .20 from School X and is assigned now to School Y. So yes it has happened and my exact point. Obviously you are not local to the area and have no concept of how rezoning works. This is the exact thing that happened to Wootton/RM and other schools. Schools are not perfectly built in the middle of their zoned areas.

In 1987. Why do people keep bringing up a decision that MCPS made in 1987, as though it were still relevant in 2023?

dp.. well, we'll see if they rezone that area that is a walk zone to Wootton back to Wootton when Crown HS is built. If they do, then we can see MCPS is serious about walk zones; if they don't, then we know diversity is more important than walk zone.

Horizon Hill is not a walk zone to Wootton because Horizon Hill is not assigned to Wootton. To repeat:

Here's a helpful guide...

If you live 0.20 miles from School X, but you are assigned to School Y, then you ARE NOT a walker to School X.
If you live 0.20 miles from School X, and you are assigned to School X, but you get bus service, then you ARE NOT a walker to School X.
If you live 0.20 miles from School X, and you are assigned to School X, and you are in School X's walk zone, then you ARE a walker to School X.

HH was a walkzone to Wootton. They pulled HH out to RM for diversity.

If it wasn't a walkzone, then why did they not provide bus service?


https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1987/05/25/school-shift-stirs-rockville-dispute/a460e6bd-9d22-4b6d-a490-c8aef025f231/

They were walkers to Wootton. Now, they get bused.

In 1987. Nineteen eighty seven. 2023-1987 = 36 years ago. In 2023, which is now, Horizon Hill is not in the walk zone for Wootton (or Frost).

You're correct.. it's not because MCPS decided it was not. But, it was.

It's not in the walkzone. You need to let this go and move on.

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Anonymous wrote:With all this redrawing the boundaries talk, is there a distance you live from a school where they will not be allowed to change your designated school? Like if you live on the same block as a school? If you’re considered a walker and don’t have an assigned bus? If you live within a half mile? Or is no one safe?

No one is safe. You can live .20 miles from a school and walk but you are not assigned to that school. The Horizon Hill neighborhood is still a huge issue because they are zoned to Ritchie Park (bus transportation) a school which is overcapacity while they could be walkers to Cold Spring ES, which is underutilized. If schools were centrally located in their zoned area then this is an easier topic. School boundaries should be looked at as neighborhoods do go through periods of increase and decreases of school aged kids.

"Safe"

Here's a helpful guide...

If you live 0.20 miles from School X, but you are assigned to School Y, then you ARE NOT a walker to School X.
If you live 0.20 miles from School X, and you are assigned to School X, but you get bus service, then you ARE NOT a walker to School X.
If you live 0.20 miles from School X, and you are assigned to School X, and you are in School X's walk zone, then you ARE a walker to School X.

Posters seem to be having trouble understanding these ideas, and I don't understand why.

Sibling 1 is .20 miles from School X and a walker assigned to School X then rezoning happens and Sibling 2 is .20 from School X and is assigned now to School Y. So yes it has happened and my exact point. Obviously you are not local to the area and have no concept of how rezoning works. This is the exact thing that happened to Wootton/RM and other schools. Schools are not perfectly built in the middle of their zoned areas.

In 1987. Why do people keep bringing up a decision that MCPS made in 1987, as though it were still relevant in 2023?

dp.. well, we'll see if they rezone that area that is a walk zone to Wootton back to Wootton when Crown HS is built. If they do, then we can see MCPS is serious about walk zones; if they don't, then we know diversity is more important than walk zone.

Horizon Hill is not a walk zone to Wootton because Horizon Hill is not assigned to Wootton. To repeat:

Here's a helpful guide...

If you live 0.20 miles from School X, but you are assigned to School Y, then you ARE NOT a walker to School X.
If you live 0.20 miles from School X, and you are assigned to School X, but you get bus service, then you ARE NOT a walker to School X.
If you live 0.20 miles from School X, and you are assigned to School X, and you are in School X's walk zone, then you ARE a walker to School X.

HH was a walkzone to Wootton. They pulled HH out to RM for diversity.

If it wasn't a walkzone, then why did they not provide bus service?


https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1987/05/25/school-shift-stirs-rockville-dispute/a460e6bd-9d22-4b6d-a490-c8aef025f231/

They were walkers to Wootton. Now, they get bused.

In 1987. Nineteen eighty seven. 2023-1987 = 36 years ago. In 2023, which is now, Horizon Hill is not in the walk zone for Wootton (or Frost).

You're correct.. it's not because MCPS decided it was not. But, it was.

That goes for every walk zone. Every walk zone is a walk zone because MCPS decided it was. Just like every bus zone is a bus zone because MCPS decided it was.

If you want MCPS to reassign Horizon Hill back to Wootton and Frost, maybe think of reasons why MCPS should do that now, within the framework of current MCPS policy on boundary studies - instead of carrying on about the 1987 (!!!!!) rezoning as though it were the worst injustice in the history of the world.

The bolded is EXACTLY my point.

A current walk zone may end up being bused to a different cluster when they redraw the boundary. Just because the neighborhood is very walkable to the school, it won't mean that MCPS won't zone your neighborhood elsewhere and bus your kids.

But, if MCPS is serious about walk zones, then they should rezone HH to a walk zone and not just give hot air to the "walk zone" talk. Otherwise, it will be clear that they put diversity above everything else, including proximity and walkability.

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Anonymous wrote:With all this redrawing the boundaries talk, is there a distance you live from a school where they will not be allowed to change your designated school? Like if you live on the same block as a school? If you’re considered a walker and don’t have an assigned bus? If you live within a half mile? Or is no one safe?

No one is safe. You can live .20 miles from a school and walk but you are not assigned to that school. The Horizon Hill neighborhood is still a huge issue because they are zoned to Ritchie Park (bus transportation) a school which is overcapacity while they could be walkers to Cold Spring ES, which is underutilized. If schools were centrally located in their zoned area then this is an easier topic. School boundaries should be looked at as neighborhoods do go through periods of increase and decreases of school aged kids.

"Safe"

Here's a helpful guide...

If you live 0.20 miles from School X, but you are assigned to School Y, then you ARE NOT a walker to School X.
If you live 0.20 miles from School X, and you are assigned to School X, but you get bus service, then you ARE NOT a walker to School X.
If you live 0.20 miles from School X, and you are assigned to School X, and you are in School X's walk zone, then you ARE a walker to School X.

Posters seem to be having trouble understanding these ideas, and I don't understand why.

Sibling 1 is .20 miles from School X and a walker assigned to School X then rezoning happens and Sibling 2 is .20 from School X and is assigned now to School Y. So yes it has happened and my exact point. Obviously you are not local to the area and have no concept of how rezoning works. This is the exact thing that happened to Wootton/RM and other schools. Schools are not perfectly built in the middle of their zoned areas.

In 1987. Why do people keep bringing up a decision that MCPS made in 1987, as though it were still relevant in 2023?

dp.. well, we'll see if they rezone that area that is a walk zone to Wootton back to Wootton when Crown HS is built. If they do, then we can see MCPS is serious about walk zones; if they don't, then we know diversity is more important than walk zone.

Horizon Hill is not a walk zone to Wootton because Horizon Hill is not assigned to Wootton. To repeat:

Here's a helpful guide...

If you live 0.20 miles from School X, but you are assigned to School Y, then you ARE NOT a walker to School X.
If you live 0.20 miles from School X, and you are assigned to School X, but you get bus service, then you ARE NOT a walker to School X.
If you live 0.20 miles from School X, and you are assigned to School X, and you are in School X's walk zone, then you ARE a walker to School X.

HH was a walkzone to Wootton. They pulled HH out to RM for diversity.

If it wasn't a walkzone, then why did they not provide bus service?


https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1987/05/25/school-shift-stirs-rockville-dispute/a460e6bd-9d22-4b6d-a490-c8aef025f231/

They were walkers to Wootton. Now, they get bused.

In 1987. Nineteen eighty seven. 2023-1987 = 36 years ago. In 2023, which is now, Horizon Hill is not in the walk zone for Wootton (or Frost).

You're correct.. it's not because MCPS decided it was not. But, it was.

It's not in the walkzone. You need to let this go and move on.

It's not about HH, per se, but what MCPS deems "walk zone", and whether they will walk the talk or just talk about walk zones. I used HH as just an example. It could be any area that is very walkable to a school but that is current bused to a different cluster.

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Anonymous wrote:With all this redrawing the boundaries talk, is there a distance you live from a school where they will not be allowed to change your designated school? Like if you live on the same block as a school? If you’re considered a walker and don’t have an assigned bus? If you live within a half mile? Or is no one safe?

No one is safe. You can live .20 miles from a school and walk but you are not assigned to that school. The Horizon Hill neighborhood is still a huge issue because they are zoned to Ritchie Park (bus transportation) a school which is overcapacity while they could be walkers to Cold Spring ES, which is underutilized. If schools were centrally located in their zoned area then this is an easier topic. School boundaries should be looked at as neighborhoods do go through periods of increase and decreases of school aged kids.

"Safe"

Here's a helpful guide...

If you live 0.20 miles from School X, but you are assigned to School Y, then you ARE NOT a walker to School X.
If you live 0.20 miles from School X, and you are assigned to School X, but you get bus service, then you ARE NOT a walker to School X.
If you live 0.20 miles from School X, and you are assigned to School X, and you are in School X's walk zone, then you ARE a walker to School X.

Posters seem to be having trouble understanding these ideas, and I don't understand why.

Sibling 1 is .20 miles from School X and a walker assigned to School X then rezoning happens and Sibling 2 is .20 from School X and is assigned now to School Y. So yes it has happened and my exact point. Obviously you are not local to the area and have no concept of how rezoning works. This is the exact thing that happened to Wootton/RM and other schools. Schools are not perfectly built in the middle of their zoned areas.

In 1987. Why do people keep bringing up a decision that MCPS made in 1987, as though it were still relevant in 2023?

dp.. well, we'll see if they rezone that area that is a walk zone to Wootton back to Wootton when Crown HS is built. If they do, then we can see MCPS is serious about walk zones; if they don't, then we know diversity is more important than walk zone.

Horizon Hill is not a walk zone to Wootton because Horizon Hill is not assigned to Wootton. To repeat:

Here's a helpful guide...

If you live 0.20 miles from School X, but you are assigned to School Y, then you ARE NOT a walker to School X.
If you live 0.20 miles from School X, and you are assigned to School X, but you get bus service, then you ARE NOT a walker to School X.
If you live 0.20 miles from School X, and you are assigned to School X, and you are in School X's walk zone, then you ARE a walker to School X.

HH was a walkzone to Wootton. They pulled HH out to RM for diversity.

If it wasn't a walkzone, then why did they not provide bus service?


https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1987/05/25/school-shift-stirs-rockville-dispute/a460e6bd-9d22-4b6d-a490-c8aef025f231/

They were walkers to Wootton. Now, they get bused.

In 1987. Nineteen eighty seven. 2023-1987 = 36 years ago. In 2023, which is now, Horizon Hill is not in the walk zone for Wootton (or Frost).

You're correct.. it's not because MCPS decided it was not. But, it was.

It's not in the walkzone. You need to let this go and move on.

It's not about HH, per se, but what MCPS deems "walk zone", and whether they will walk the talk or just talk about walk zones. I used HH as just an example. It could be any area that is very walkable to a school but that is current bused to a different cluster.

But you seem to be misunderstanding the basic concept: that in MCPS a "walk zone" can only exist within a current boundary. It is not the same thing as being walkable to a school. OP's question is about who will not be rezoned from their current boundaries. And the best answer to that is: people currently in their assigned school's MCPS-designated walk zone.

When MCPS reassigns students these days (not in 1987), it is reassigning students who are already bus riders and will either remain bus riders or become walkers (yay!), or, in a few locations, students who are walkers but live within more than one walk zone because two schools are situated very close to each other.