Young woman fights off rapist at gym

[Anonymous]

This back and forth and blaming is ridiculous. She did a good job fighting off this guy.

As someone who has fought off multiple attacks (muggings at gunpoint, strangleholds being dragged into a car full of men for a presumed kidnapping/rape, assault and attempted rape combined with sexual assault at lower levels, and more) around the world, you need to be ready for this and respond in kind. The best thing you should do is to be aware of your surroundings, yes. But that will NOT always protect you. What you want is that awareness coupled with the ability to respond immediately and to go from 0 to 100 in an instant. This woman did that. Fight, flight, or freeze is a thing. But if you can go from normal to apeshit kicking, screaming, eye gouging, crotch kicking the second you are touched? Do that. Do that and then flee, but I have had many training courses in different capacities and I will always advocate this approach. To add: it starts earlier than you think. Someone stalking should be recognized as a potential threat. The SECOND they touch your shoulder? Be ready to fight if you don't give the first blow. No reasonable man should be touching you like that with no context.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This was her apartment gym.

she buzzed him in.

people stop doing that!!! unless you know the person lives in your building do not let them in. alternatively develop a better radar for dangerous v not. (NOT based on race.) This dude was disheveled and wearing slides.

And here is the victim blamer.

And how did she decide he was going to rape her? She was stupid for letting him into the gym and then cries rape.

You piece of garbage!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I saw a random man stalking my DD at a secluded trail path in a busy park in the middle of the day. He did not see me. I called her to climb at the side of the trail towards me and both of us turned to face him. I pulled out my camera and started talking to my DH with the camera pointed towards the man. He moved away quickly from there.
DD and I walk with a knife and a pepper spray. Now we only walk on the streets near our house and at a time when other people are also walking. We have also seen drug trafficking on the trails. This is Black Hill State Park BTW. It is by no mean secluded.

I had a similar experience. My 13 ish DD turned a corner on a trail and was out of sight for a minute. When I turned the corner, some strange man was stalking her, it was clear he was going to grab her. He saw me and stopped in his tracks and left. Still chills me to this day.

Yes, she too was on a corner on a trail. The man was stalking her by walking parallel in the woods. He was hiding behind the trees, watching her and rapidly gaining on her. I yelled at her to come to me quickly and we were petrified. He also looked like a deranged person. I saw my kid being hunted and I still break into a sweat. This was summer of 2020. People were outdoors in masks after the lockdown.

We never went back again. By the way, I call it a trail but it was not really a unpaved trail but a proper wide paved road that goes through the woods and connects to a subdivision of SFHs around the lake. There are lots of young moms with strollers, cyclists, old people, families, dog walkers that are on that path - ALL THE TIME, even though it is a quite area. There is the play ground just next to that road. It was chilling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I saw a random man stalking my DD at a secluded trail path in a busy park in the middle of the day. He did not see me. I called her to climb at the side of the trail towards me and both of us turned to face him. I pulled out my camera and started talking to my DH with the camera pointed towards the man. He moved away quickly from there.
DD and I walk with a knife and a pepper spray. Now we only walk on the streets near our house and at a time when other people are also walking. We have also seen drug trafficking on the trails. This is Black Hill State Park BTW. It is by no mean secluded.

I had a similar experience. My 13 ish DD turned a corner on a trail and was out of sight for a minute. When I turned the corner, some strange man was stalking her, it was clear he was going to grab her. He saw me and stopped in his tracks and left. Still chills me to this day.

Yes, she too was on a corner on a trail. The man was stalking her by walking parallel in the woods. He was hiding behind the trees, watching her and rapidly gaining on her. I yelled at her to come to me quickly and we were petrified. He also looked like a deranged person. I saw my kid being hunted and I still break into a sweat. This was summer of 2020. People were outdoors in masks after the lockdown.

We never went back again. By the way, I call it a trail but it was not really a unpaved trail but a proper wide paved road that goes through the woods and connects to a subdivision of SFHs around the lake. There are lots of young moms with strollers, cyclists, old people, families, dog walkers that are on that path - ALL THE TIME, even though it is a quite area. There is the play ground just next to that road. It was chilling.

Did you call the police?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This back and forth and blaming is ridiculous. She did a good job fighting off this guy.

As someone who has fought off multiple attacks (muggings at gunpoint, strangleholds being dragged into a car full of men for a presumed kidnapping/rape, assault and attempted rape combined with sexual assault at lower levels, and more) around the world, you need to be ready for this and respond in kind. The best thing you should do is to be aware of your surroundings, yes. But that will NOT always protect you. What you want is that awareness coupled with the ability to respond immediately and to go from 0 to 100 in an instant. This woman did that. Fight, flight, or freeze is a thing. But if you can go from normal to apeshit kicking, screaming, eye gouging, crotch kicking the second you are touched? Do that. Do that and then flee, but I have had many training courses in different capacities and I will always advocate this approach. To add: it starts earlier than you think. Someone stalking should be recognized as a potential threat. The SECOND they touch your shoulder? Be ready to fight if you don't give the first blow. No reasonable man should be touching you like that with no context.

I have also been in exactly the situations you have mentioned in another part of the world before I immigrated here. I used to be hypervigilant of my surroundings. Even at work, I insist on people walking me to my car in the car park at night. I will ask security or my colleagues.

Little by little, I started to relax here because that kind of constant attacks were not happening in USA. But, now, I have become vigilant again. The other day, I had a plumber come to my house on a service call. I was already dressed, my car keys and phone with me, running shoes on, security cameras visible, back door open, so that I could make a run for it if needed. Who do you trust here?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I saw a random man stalking my DD at a secluded trail path in a busy park in the middle of the day. He did not see me. I called her to climb at the side of the trail towards me and both of us turned to face him. I pulled out my camera and started talking to my DH with the camera pointed towards the man. He moved away quickly from there.
DD and I walk with a knife and a pepper spray. Now we only walk on the streets near our house and at a time when other people are also walking. We have also seen drug trafficking on the trails. This is Black Hill State Park BTW. It is by no mean secluded.

I had a similar experience. My 13 ish DD turned a corner on a trail and was out of sight for a minute. When I turned the corner, some strange man was stalking her, it was clear he was going to grab her. He saw me and stopped in his tracks and left. Still chills me to this day.

Yes, she too was on a corner on a trail. The man was stalking her by walking parallel in the woods. He was hiding behind the trees, watching her and rapidly gaining on her. I yelled at her to come to me quickly and we were petrified. He also looked like a deranged person. I saw my kid being hunted and I still break into a sweat. This was summer of 2020. People were outdoors in masks after the lockdown.

We never went back again. By the way, I call it a trail but it was not really a unpaved trail but a proper wide paved road that goes through the woods and connects to a subdivision of SFHs around the lake. There are lots of young moms with strollers, cyclists, old people, families, dog walkers that are on that path - ALL THE TIME, even though it is a quite area. There is the play ground just next to that road. It was chilling.

Did you call the police?

I spoke to police on the non-emergency line once I reached the car. Since the person had not engaged with us, not seen by others, not present there was nothing they could do. We were also not going to wait there for a police car or park police to show up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lots of news channels are showing the video. CNN, fox, inside edition etc.

This is horrible. This is why women have instincts like doing a U-turn if they see a man approaching while they are alone next to an elevator, etc.....I'm so annoyed right now bc I have 2 girls too. DH and I met when I was 19 so we worked out at gyms together.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Men are violent and dangerous. Many are armed. Why are they still in charge?

Because of stupid women like you.

[Anonymous]

I remember taking self defense classes as a teen, being worried about rape as a young woman. And it just sucks that nothing has changed and I am going to have to impart certain lessons on my two daughters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DO NOT BUZZ ANYONE INTO YOUR APARTMENT BUILDING, GYM, etc.

+1 Don't open your door to anyone. And if anyone approaches my car while I'm in it, I'm going to accelerate. Get out of my way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He lives in the building. So it really doesn't matter that she buzzed him in.

With his history, why would anyone rent to him?

[Anonymous]

I see hs kids out jogging in the evening. That’s plain stupid, but someone told them they have a right to do it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Men are violent and dangerous. Many are armed. Why are they still in charge?

Their mommy made them feel like God.

[Anonymous]

Video of the fight.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/young-woman-fights-off-male-attacker-while-alone-at-apartment-gym-attacker-arrested/vi-AA17ACdg?ocid=winp2fptaskbarhover

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I see hs kids out jogging in the evening. That’s plain stupid, but someone told them they have a right to do it.

In well-lit, populated streets, there’s no reason not to.