Would you still go to a specific church if...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No, I want an inclusive church which accepts everyone.

The most well-known hymn in America, “Amazing Grace,” by the former slaveholder John Newton, contains a line that many people stumble over.

“Amazing grace, how sweet the sound
that saved a wretch like me!”

The hymn may be popular, but the sentiment is not. Few Americans consider themselves “wretches” of moral repugnance and debasement. We like to think of ourselves as basically good, with a few flaws; not fundamentally bad, with few virtues to save us.

Some Christians believe it would be good to remove unnecessary offense by downplaying human sinfulness, but such a move severs the root of what makes grace so powerful. It is precisely because we’re bad, not good, that God’s love in sending his Son to die for our sins is so significant.

I want my church to help people improve their lives in a loving manner, with the goal of salvation.

So the Joel Osteen Mega churches what function do they serve? Besides grifting.

You will have to suss that out on your own time, idk. I know lots of people attend such churches for their own reasons, and it’s a free country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Absolutely not. Why the hell would you give a penny to anyone who thinks you were born wrong? You're contributing to a cycle of hatred.

You can have your faith and believe in God without patronizing a church that supports hatred. You can find community elsewhere.

Being “born wrong” is original sin. It applies to all of humanity, it’s not picking on one group. Everyone is invited to abandon their sin. “Do what thou wilt” is another religion entirely.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:…you knew you wouldn't be welcome if leadership knew you were gay, Republican, divorced, whatever? Being vague on purpose because I'm curious in general how people would react, not about our specific situation.

No

Who goes to a church that spews that crap?

Why would you want to be part of a community that lies and spews hate on others?

Seriously this is stupid

Somehow I suspect you're ok with a community spewing hatred on one of those three groups. Hypocrite.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:…you knew you wouldn't be welcome if leadership knew you were gay, Republican, divorced, whatever? Being vague on purpose because I'm curious in general how people would react, not about our specific situation.

No

Who goes to a church that spews that crap?

Why would you want to be part of a community that lies and spews hate on others?

Seriously this is stupid

Maybe you should ask Biden, Pelosi and Sotomayor (among others)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:…you knew you wouldn't be welcome if leadership knew you were gay, Republican, divorced, whatever? Being vague on purpose because I'm curious in general how people would react, not about our specific situation.

No

Who goes to a church that spews that crap?

Why would you want to be part of a community that lies and spews hate on others?

Seriously this is stupid

Maybe you should ask Biden, Pelosi and Sotomayor (among others)

They get a pass.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:…you knew you wouldn't be welcome if leadership knew you were gay, Republican, divorced, whatever? Being vague on purpose because I'm curious in general how people would react, not about our specific situation.

No

Who goes to a church that spews that crap?

Why would you want to be part of a community that lies and spews hate on others?

Seriously this is stupid

Maybe you should ask Biden, Pelosi and Sotomayor (among others)

Maybe they like the bells and smells.