Petition to bring back SROs

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Anonymous wrote:Is it a coincidence that there's been a rise in violence, drugs, and weapons at MCPS property since SROs were removed? Hmm.

It's about the same; there's just a rise in postings about these things to fearmonger and help bring back SROs.

Unless your head has been so far up your a$$ that you can't read the news, you are playing down the uptick in violence in our schools

No it’s just more publicized

As a way to fearmonger to achieve political ends like bringing back SROs or making public schools into kid prison

You know what sounds a lot like prison? A place where people openly abuse substances and violence is tolerated and permitted.

Maybe it's not the parents who want better security and more stringent discipline in place who want to turn schools into "kid prison," but it's those who think that the current state is "just fine" or "not a big deal" that are interested in maintaining the kid prison dystopia.

I think a lot of the kids at RM, which has had 2 instances of guns on campus in as many weeks, would prefer SROs come back.
Maybe kids at Magruder and Einstein too. A lot of the parents want them back too. Sadly MCPD is so understaffed due to recruitment problems that I’m not sure they can staff the program.

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-RM parent whose kids feel that way

RM .. the school with the security guard who was raping a student? While they had an SRO?

Lol, not a great example.

so we should get rid of security guards, too?

Since you respect cops so much ask them what they feel about security guards.

When lost at the mall, cops recommend that a child never approach a security guard but approach a women with children.

Security guards should be outside schools making sure threats from outside do not get in.

They should ensure doors lock, cameras work, security plans are in place.

They should not have contact with students.

ok, so no cops, no security guards, only teachers and good students who don't fight, bring weapons to school, no sexual assaults.

ITA. Can you make that happen in all MCPS public schools?

The problem with progressives is that they are pollyanna kumbaya, "hug it out", delusional

Nope.

I think we should have cops outside the school, like we have now, that deal with crimes not discipline. They should be able to respond in < 5 minutes which is more than what SROs could do. Cops are not disciplinarians they are law enforcement officers.

Security guards should do the items listed above.

Principals, Counselors and therapists should deal with disciplinary actions.

Principals should be able to expel not move students around.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it a coincidence that there's been a rise in violence, drugs, and weapons at MCPS property since SROs were removed? Hmm.

It's about the same; there's just a rise in postings about these things to fearmonger and help bring back SROs.

Unless your head has been so far up your a$$ that you can't read the news, you are playing down the uptick in violence in our schools

No it’s just more publicized

As a way to fearmonger to achieve political ends like bringing back SROs or making public schools into kid prison

You know what sounds a lot like prison? A place where people openly abuse substances and violence is tolerated and permitted.

Maybe it's not the parents who want better security and more stringent discipline in place who want to turn schools into "kid prison," but it's those who think that the current state is "just fine" or "not a big deal" that are interested in maintaining the kid prison dystopia.

I think a lot of the kids at RM, which has had 2 instances of guns on campus in as many weeks, would prefer SROs come back.
Maybe kids at Magruder and Einstein too. A lot of the parents want them back too. Sadly MCPD is so understaffed due to recruitment problems that I’m not sure they can staff the program.

x a million

-RM parent whose kids feel that way

RM .. the school with the security guard who was raping a student? While they had an SRO?

Lol, not a great example.

so we should get rid of security guards, too?

Since you respect cops so much ask them what they feel about security guards.

When lost at the mall, cops recommend that a child never approach a security guard but approach a women with children.

Security guards should be outside schools making sure threats from outside do not get in.

They should ensure doors lock, cameras work, security plans are in place.

They should not have contact with students.

ok, so no cops, no security guards, only teachers and good students who don't fight, bring weapons to school, no sexual assaults.

ITA. Can you make that happen in all MCPS public schools?

The problem with progressives is that they are pollyanna kumbaya, "hug it out", delusional

Nope.

I think we should have cops outside the school, like we have now, that deal with crimes not discipline. They should be able to respond in < 5 minutes which is more than what SROs could do. Cops are not disciplinarians they are law enforcement officers.

Security guards should do the items listed above.

Principals, Counselors and therapists should deal with disciplinary actions.

Principals should be able to expel not move students around.

SROs can be in school and not deal with disciplinary issues. Their presence can be a deterrent from kids bringing guns to school.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it a coincidence that there's been a rise in violence, drugs, and weapons at MCPS property since SROs were removed? Hmm.

It's about the same; there's just a rise in postings about these things to fearmonger and help bring back SROs.

Unless your head has been so far up your a$$ that you can't read the news, you are playing down the uptick in violence in our schools

No it’s just more publicized

As a way to fearmonger to achieve political ends like bringing back SROs or making public schools into kid prison

You know what sounds a lot like prison? A place where people openly abuse substances and violence is tolerated and permitted.

Maybe it's not the parents who want better security and more stringent discipline in place who want to turn schools into "kid prison," but it's those who think that the current state is "just fine" or "not a big deal" that are interested in maintaining the kid prison dystopia.

I think a lot of the kids at RM, which has had 2 instances of guns on campus in as many weeks, would prefer SROs come back.
Maybe kids at Magruder and Einstein too. A lot of the parents want them back too. Sadly MCPD is so understaffed due to recruitment problems that I’m not sure they can staff the program.

x a million

-RM parent whose kids feel that way

RM .. the school with the security guard who was raping a student? While they had an SRO?

Lol, not a great example.

so we should get rid of security guards, too?

Since you respect cops so much ask them what they feel about security guards.

When lost at the mall, cops recommend that a child never approach a security guard but approach a women with children.

Security guards should be outside schools making sure threats from outside do not get in.

They should ensure doors lock, cameras work, security plans are in place.

They should not have contact with students.

ok, so no cops, no security guards, only teachers and good students who don't fight, bring weapons to school, no sexual assaults.

ITA. Can you make that happen in all MCPS public schools?

The problem with progressives is that they are pollyanna kumbaya, "hug it out", delusional

Nope.

I think we should have cops outside the school, like we have now, that deal with crimes not discipline. They should be able to respond in < 5 minutes which is more than what SROs could do. Cops are not disciplinarians they are law enforcement officers.

Security guards should do the items listed above.

Principals, Counselors and therapists should deal with disciplinary actions.

Principals should be able to expel not move students around.

That is not an option in MCPS. Or, really in public school, in general. It is not equitable, and public schools are required to educate all kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it a coincidence that there's been a rise in violence, drugs, and weapons at MCPS property since SROs were removed? Hmm.

It's about the same; there's just a rise in postings about these things to fearmonger and help bring back SROs.

Unless your head has been so far up your a$$ that you can't read the news, you are playing down the uptick in violence in our schools

No it’s just more publicized

As a way to fearmonger to achieve political ends like bringing back SROs or making public schools into kid prison

You know what sounds a lot like prison? A place where people openly abuse substances and violence is tolerated and permitted.

Maybe it's not the parents who want better security and more stringent discipline in place who want to turn schools into "kid prison," but it's those who think that the current state is "just fine" or "not a big deal" that are interested in maintaining the kid prison dystopia.

I think a lot of the kids at RM, which has had 2 instances of guns on campus in as many weeks, would prefer SROs come back.
Maybe kids at Magruder and Einstein too. A lot of the parents want them back too. Sadly MCPD is so understaffed due to recruitment problems that I’m not sure they can staff the program.

x a million

-RM parent whose kids feel that way

RM .. the school with the security guard who was raping a student? While they had an SRO?

Lol, not a great example.

so we should get rid of security guards, too?

Since you respect cops so much ask them what they feel about security guards.

When lost at the mall, cops recommend that a child never approach a security guard but approach a women with children.

Security guards should be outside schools making sure threats from outside do not get in.

They should ensure doors lock, cameras work, security plans are in place.

They should not have contact with students.

So who do you want breaking up fist fights or doing hall sweeps to make sure kids go to class? Your logic is nuts.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it a coincidence that there's been a rise in violence, drugs, and weapons at MCPS property since SROs were removed? Hmm.

It's about the same; there's just a rise in postings about these things to fearmonger and help bring back SROs.

Unless your head has been so far up your a$$ that you can't read the news, you are playing down the uptick in violence in our schools

No it’s just more publicized

As a way to fearmonger to achieve political ends like bringing back SROs or making public schools into kid prison

You know what sounds a lot like prison? A place where people openly abuse substances and violence is tolerated and permitted.

Maybe it's not the parents who want better security and more stringent discipline in place who want to turn schools into "kid prison," but it's those who think that the current state is "just fine" or "not a big deal" that are interested in maintaining the kid prison dystopia.

I think a lot of the kids at RM, which has had 2 instances of guns on campus in as many weeks, would prefer SROs come back.
Maybe kids at Magruder and Einstein too. A lot of the parents want them back too. Sadly MCPD is so understaffed due to recruitment problems that I’m not sure they can staff the program.

x a million

-RM parent whose kids feel that way

RM .. the school with the security guard who was raping a student? While they had an SRO?

Lol, not a great example.

so we should get rid of security guards, too?

Since you respect cops so much ask them what they feel about security guards.

When lost at the mall, cops recommend that a child never approach a security guard but approach a women with children.

Security guards should be outside schools making sure threats from outside do not get in.

They should ensure doors lock, cameras work, security plans are in place.

They should not have contact with students.

ok, so no cops, no security guards, only teachers and good students who don't fight, bring weapons to school, no sexual assaults.

ITA. Can you make that happen in all MCPS public schools?

The problem with progressives is that they are pollyanna kumbaya, "hug it out", delusional

Nope.

I think we should have cops outside the school, like we have now, that deal with crimes not discipline. They should be able to respond in < 5 minutes which is more than what SROs could do. Cops are not disciplinarians they are law enforcement officers.

Security guards should do the items listed above.

Principals, Counselors and therapists should deal with disciplinary actions.

Principals should be able to expel not move students around.

SROs can be in school and not deal with disciplinary issues. Their presence can be a deterrent from kids bringing guns to school.

I prefer they catch the person with the gun outside the school.

I don’t see the value of them in the school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is it a coincidence that there's been a rise in violence, drugs, and weapons at MCPS property since SROs were removed? Hmm.

It's about the same; there's just a rise in postings about these things to fearmonger and help bring back SROs.

Unless your head has been so far up your a$$ that you can't read the news, you are playing down the uptick in violence in our schools

No it’s just more publicized

As a way to fearmonger to achieve political ends like bringing back SROs or making public schools into kid prison

You know what sounds a lot like prison? A place where people openly abuse substances and violence is tolerated and permitted.

Maybe it's not the parents who want better security and more stringent discipline in place who want to turn schools into "kid prison," but it's those who think that the current state is "just fine" or "not a big deal" that are interested in maintaining the kid prison dystopia.

I think a lot of the kids at RM, which has had 2 instances of guns on campus in as many weeks, would prefer SROs come back.
Maybe kids at Magruder and Einstein too. A lot of the parents want them back too. Sadly MCPD is so understaffed due to recruitment problems that I’m not sure they can staff the program.

x a million

-RM parent whose kids feel that way

RM .. the school with the security guard who was raping a student? While they had an SRO?

Lol, not a great example.

so we should get rid of security guards, too?

Since you respect cops so much ask them what they feel about security guards.

When lost at the mall, cops recommend that a child never approach a security guard but approach a women with children.

Security guards should be outside schools making sure threats from outside do not get in.

They should ensure doors lock, cameras work, security plans are in place.

They should not have contact with students.

ok, so no cops, no security guards, only teachers and good students who don't fight, bring weapons to school, no sexual assaults.

ITA. Can you make that happen in all MCPS public schools?

The problem with progressives is that they are pollyanna kumbaya, "hug it out", delusional

Nope.

I think we should have cops outside the school, like we have now, that deal with crimes not discipline. They should be able to respond in < 5 minutes which is more than what SROs could do. Cops are not disciplinarians they are law enforcement officers.

Security guards should do the items listed above.

Principals, Counselors and therapists should deal with disciplinary actions.

Principals should be able to expel not move students around.

That is not an option in MCPS. Or, really in public school, in general. It is not equitable, and public schools are required to educate all kids.

That’s not true. I know kids that have been expelled. It costs $ because you still have to provide them an education.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it a coincidence that there's been a rise in violence, drugs, and weapons at MCPS property since SROs were removed? Hmm.

It's about the same; there's just a rise in postings about these things to fearmonger and help bring back SROs.

Unless your head has been so far up your a$$ that you can't read the news, you are playing down the uptick in violence in our schools

No it’s just more publicized

As a way to fearmonger to achieve political ends like bringing back SROs or making public schools into kid prison

You know what sounds a lot like prison? A place where people openly abuse substances and violence is tolerated and permitted.

Maybe it's not the parents who want better security and more stringent discipline in place who want to turn schools into "kid prison," but it's those who think that the current state is "just fine" or "not a big deal" that are interested in maintaining the kid prison dystopia.

I think a lot of the kids at RM, which has had 2 instances of guns on campus in as many weeks, would prefer SROs come back.
Maybe kids at Magruder and Einstein too. A lot of the parents want them back too. Sadly MCPD is so understaffed due to recruitment problems that I’m not sure they can staff the program.

x a million

-RM parent whose kids feel that way

RM .. the school with the security guard who was raping a student? While they had an SRO?

Lol, not a great example.

so we should get rid of security guards, too?

Since you respect cops so much ask them what they feel about security guards.

When lost at the mall, cops recommend that a child never approach a security guard but approach a women with children.

Security guards should be outside schools making sure threats from outside do not get in.

They should ensure doors lock, cameras work, security plans are in place.

They should not have contact with students.

ok, so no cops, no security guards, only teachers and good students who don't fight, bring weapons to school, no sexual assaults.

ITA. Can you make that happen in all MCPS public schools?

The problem with progressives is that they are pollyanna kumbaya, "hug it out", delusional

Nope.

I think we should have cops outside the school, like we have now, that deal with crimes not discipline. They should be able to respond in < 5 minutes which is more than what SROs could do. Cops are not disciplinarians they are law enforcement officers.

Security guards should do the items listed above.

Principals, Counselors and therapists should deal with disciplinary actions.

Principals should be able to expel not move students around.

That is not an option in MCPS. Or, really in public school, in general. It is not equitable, and public schools are required to educate all kids.

Children who are disruptive, hostile and a danger to others need to be isolated from their home schools in a separate environment. If not permanently, at least until they can prove they can be trusted to behave in their home school environment.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is it a coincidence that there's been a rise in violence, drugs, and weapons at MCPS property since SROs were removed? Hmm.

It's about the same; there's just a rise in postings about these things to fearmonger and help bring back SROs.

Unless your head has been so far up your a$$ that you can't read the news, you are playing down the uptick in violence in our schools

No it’s just more publicized

As a way to fearmonger to achieve political ends like bringing back SROs or making public schools into kid prison

You know what sounds a lot like prison? A place where people openly abuse substances and violence is tolerated and permitted.

Maybe it's not the parents who want better security and more stringent discipline in place who want to turn schools into "kid prison," but it's those who think that the current state is "just fine" or "not a big deal" that are interested in maintaining the kid prison dystopia.

I think a lot of the kids at RM, which has had 2 instances of guns on campus in as many weeks, would prefer SROs come back.
Maybe kids at Magruder and Einstein too. A lot of the parents want them back too. Sadly MCPD is so understaffed due to recruitment problems that I’m not sure they can staff the program.

x a million

-RM parent whose kids feel that way

RM .. the school with the security guard who was raping a student? While they had an SRO?

Lol, not a great example.

so we should get rid of security guards, too?

Since you respect cops so much ask them what they feel about security guards.

When lost at the mall, cops recommend that a child never approach a security guard but approach a women with children.

Security guards should be outside schools making sure threats from outside do not get in.

They should ensure doors lock, cameras work, security plans are in place.

They should not have contact with students.

So who do you want breaking up fist fights or doing hall sweeps to make sure kids go to class? Your logic is nuts.

Google STARS program in Denver.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it a coincidence that there's been a rise in violence, drugs, and weapons at MCPS property since SROs were removed? Hmm.

It's about the same; there's just a rise in postings about these things to fearmonger and help bring back SROs.

Unless your head has been so far up your a$$ that you can't read the news, you are playing down the uptick in violence in our schools

No it’s just more publicized

As a way to fearmonger to achieve political ends like bringing back SROs or making public schools into kid prison

You know what sounds a lot like prison? A place where people openly abuse substances and violence is tolerated and permitted.

Maybe it's not the parents who want better security and more stringent discipline in place who want to turn schools into "kid prison," but it's those who think that the current state is "just fine" or "not a big deal" that are interested in maintaining the kid prison dystopia.

I think a lot of the kids at RM, which has had 2 instances of guns on campus in as many weeks, would prefer SROs come back.
Maybe kids at Magruder and Einstein too. A lot of the parents want them back too. Sadly MCPD is so understaffed due to recruitment problems that I’m not sure they can staff the program.

x a million

-RM parent whose kids feel that way

RM .. the school with the security guard who was raping a student? While they had an SRO?

Lol, not a great example.

so we should get rid of security guards, too?

Since you respect cops so much ask them what they feel about security guards.

When lost at the mall, cops recommend that a child never approach a security guard but approach a women with children.

Security guards should be outside schools making sure threats from outside do not get in.

They should ensure doors lock, cameras work, security plans are in place.

They should not have contact with students.

ok, so no cops, no security guards, only teachers and good students who don't fight, bring weapons to school, no sexual assaults.

ITA. Can you make that happen in all MCPS public schools?

The problem with progressives is that they are pollyanna kumbaya, "hug it out", delusional

Nope.

I think we should have cops outside the school, like we have now, that deal with crimes not discipline. They should be able to respond in < 5 minutes which is more than what SROs could do. Cops are not disciplinarians they are law enforcement officers.

Security guards should do the items listed above.

Principals, Counselors and therapists should deal with disciplinary actions.

Principals should be able to expel not move students around.

That is not an option in MCPS. Or, really in public school, in general. It is not equitable, and public schools are required to educate all kids.

The RWNJs posting here aren't reasonable and couldn't care less about fairness.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it a coincidence that there's been a rise in violence, drugs, and weapons at MCPS property since SROs were removed? Hmm.

It's about the same; there's just a rise in postings about these things to fearmonger and help bring back SROs.

Unless your head has been so far up your a$$ that you can't read the news, you are playing down the uptick in violence in our schools

No it’s just more publicized

As a way to fearmonger to achieve political ends like bringing back SROs or making public schools into kid prison

You know what sounds a lot like prison? A place where people openly abuse substances and violence is tolerated and permitted.

Maybe it's not the parents who want better security and more stringent discipline in place who want to turn schools into "kid prison," but it's those who think that the current state is "just fine" or "not a big deal" that are interested in maintaining the kid prison dystopia.

I think a lot of the kids at RM, which has had 2 instances of guns on campus in as many weeks, would prefer SROs come back.
Maybe kids at Magruder and Einstein too. A lot of the parents want them back too. Sadly MCPD is so understaffed due to recruitment problems that I’m not sure they can staff the program.

x a million

-RM parent whose kids feel that way

RM .. the school with the security guard who was raping a student? While they had an SRO?

Lol, not a great example.

so we should get rid of security guards, too?

Since you respect cops so much ask them what they feel about security guards.

When lost at the mall, cops recommend that a child never approach a security guard but approach a women with children.

Security guards should be outside schools making sure threats from outside do not get in.

They should ensure doors lock, cameras work, security plans are in place.

They should not have contact with students.

ok, so no cops, no security guards, only teachers and good students who don't fight, bring weapons to school, no sexual assaults.

ITA. Can you make that happen in all MCPS public schools?

The problem with progressives is that they are pollyanna kumbaya, "hug it out", delusional

Nope.

I think we should have cops outside the school, like we have now, that deal with crimes not discipline. They should be able to respond in < 5 minutes which is more than what SROs could do. Cops are not disciplinarians they are law enforcement officers.

Security guards should do the items listed above.

Principals, Counselors and therapists should deal with disciplinary actions.

Principals should be able to expel not move students around.

I'm not a therapist or counselor, but I don't believe counselors or therapists are trained to break up physical dangers nor do they desire to do that kind of thing. In the healthcare space, counselors and therapists rely on security guards to enable them to safely do their job. So why should school environments be any different?

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Anonymous wrote:Is it a coincidence that there's been a rise in violence, drugs, and weapons at MCPS property since SROs were removed? Hmm.

It's about the same; there's just a rise in postings about these things to fearmonger and help bring back SROs.

Unless your head has been so far up your a$$ that you can't read the news, you are playing down the uptick in violence in our schools

No it’s just more publicized

As a way to fearmonger to achieve political ends like bringing back SROs or making public schools into kid prison

You know what sounds a lot like prison? A place where people openly abuse substances and violence is tolerated and permitted.

Maybe it's not the parents who want better security and more stringent discipline in place who want to turn schools into "kid prison," but it's those who think that the current state is "just fine" or "not a big deal" that are interested in maintaining the kid prison dystopia.

I think a lot of the kids at RM, which has had 2 instances of guns on campus in as many weeks, would prefer SROs come back.
Maybe kids at Magruder and Einstein too. A lot of the parents want them back too. Sadly MCPD is so understaffed due to recruitment problems that I’m not sure they can staff the program.

x a million

-RM parent whose kids feel that way

RM .. the school with the security guard who was raping a student? While they had an SRO?

Lol, not a great example.

so we should get rid of security guards, too?

Since you respect cops so much ask them what they feel about security guards.

When lost at the mall, cops recommend that a child never approach a security guard but approach a women with children.

Security guards should be outside schools making sure threats from outside do not get in.

They should ensure doors lock, cameras work, security plans are in place.

They should not have contact with students.

ok, so no cops, no security guards, only teachers and good students who don't fight, bring weapons to school, no sexual assaults.

ITA. Can you make that happen in all MCPS public schools?

The problem with progressives is that they are pollyanna kumbaya, "hug it out", delusional

Nope.

I think we should have cops outside the school, like we have now, that deal with crimes not discipline. They should be able to respond in < 5 minutes which is more than what SROs could do. Cops are not disciplinarians they are law enforcement officers.

Security guards should do the items listed above.

Principals, Counselors and therapists should deal with disciplinary actions.

Principals should be able to expel not move students around.

That is not an option in MCPS. Or, really in public school, in general. It is not equitable, and public schools are required to educate all kids.

Children who are disruptive, hostile and a danger to others need to be isolated from their home schools in a separate environment. If not permanently, at least until they can prove they can be trusted to behave in their home school environment.

Dangerous yes.

Disruptive is too subjective… one persons disruptive is another persons developmentally normal. Also are you going to kick kids out with Tourette’s because they are disruptive. Kids need to learn to learn in classrooms tray are not perfectly quiet.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it a coincidence that there's been a rise in violence, drugs, and weapons at MCPS property since SROs were removed? Hmm.

It's about the same; there's just a rise in postings about these things to fearmonger and help bring back SROs.

Unless your head has been so far up your a$$ that you can't read the news, you are playing down the uptick in violence in our schools

No it’s just more publicized

As a way to fearmonger to achieve political ends like bringing back SROs or making public schools into kid prison

You know what sounds a lot like prison? A place where people openly abuse substances and violence is tolerated and permitted.

Maybe it's not the parents who want better security and more stringent discipline in place who want to turn schools into "kid prison," but it's those who think that the current state is "just fine" or "not a big deal" that are interested in maintaining the kid prison dystopia.

I think a lot of the kids at RM, which has had 2 instances of guns on campus in as many weeks, would prefer SROs come back.
Maybe kids at Magruder and Einstein too. A lot of the parents want them back too. Sadly MCPD is so understaffed due to recruitment problems that I’m not sure they can staff the program.

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-RM parent whose kids feel that way

RM .. the school with the security guard who was raping a student? While they had an SRO?

Lol, not a great example.

so we should get rid of security guards, too?

Since you respect cops so much ask them what they feel about security guards.

When lost at the mall, cops recommend that a child never approach a security guard but approach a women with children.

Security guards should be outside schools making sure threats from outside do not get in.

They should ensure doors lock, cameras work, security plans are in place.

They should not have contact with students.

ok, so no cops, no security guards, only teachers and good students who don't fight, bring weapons to school, no sexual assaults.

ITA. Can you make that happen in all MCPS public schools?

The problem with progressives is that they are pollyanna kumbaya, "hug it out", delusional

Nope.

I think we should have cops outside the school, like we have now, that deal with crimes not discipline. They should be able to respond in < 5 minutes which is more than what SROs could do. Cops are not disciplinarians they are law enforcement officers.

Security guards should do the items listed above.

Principals, Counselors and therapists should deal with disciplinary actions.

Principals should be able to expel not move students around.

I'm not a therapist or counselor, but I don't believe counselors or therapists are trained to break up physical dangers nor do they desire to do that kind of thing. In the healthcare space, counselors and therapists rely on security guards to enable them to safely do their job. So why should school environments be any different?

Yes some are. Google STARS program in Denver. They should call the cop that is outside the school if it is a dangerous situation, which is rare. Just like nurses do in the ER.

It’s amazing what happens when you have people trained to deescalate.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it a coincidence that there's been a rise in violence, drugs, and weapons at MCPS property since SROs were removed? Hmm.

It's about the same; there's just a rise in postings about these things to fearmonger and help bring back SROs.

Unless your head has been so far up your a$$ that you can't read the news, you are playing down the uptick in violence in our schools

No it’s just more publicized

As a way to fearmonger to achieve political ends like bringing back SROs or making public schools into kid prison

You know what sounds a lot like prison? A place where people openly abuse substances and violence is tolerated and permitted.

Maybe it's not the parents who want better security and more stringent discipline in place who want to turn schools into "kid prison," but it's those who think that the current state is "just fine" or "not a big deal" that are interested in maintaining the kid prison dystopia.

I think a lot of the kids at RM, which has had 2 instances of guns on campus in as many weeks, would prefer SROs come back.
Maybe kids at Magruder and Einstein too. A lot of the parents want them back too. Sadly MCPD is so understaffed due to recruitment problems that I’m not sure they can staff the program.

x a million

-RM parent whose kids feel that way

RM .. the school with the security guard who was raping a student? While they had an SRO?

Lol, not a great example.

so we should get rid of security guards, too?

Since you respect cops so much ask them what they feel about security guards.

When lost at the mall, cops recommend that a child never approach a security guard but approach a women with children.

Security guards should be outside schools making sure threats from outside do not get in.

They should ensure doors lock, cameras work, security plans are in place.

They should not have contact with students.

ok, so no cops, no security guards, only teachers and good students who don't fight, bring weapons to school, no sexual assaults.

ITA. Can you make that happen in all MCPS public schools?

The problem with progressives is that they are pollyanna kumbaya, "hug it out", delusional

Nope.

I think we should have cops outside the school, like we have now, that deal with crimes not discipline. They should be able to respond in < 5 minutes which is more than what SROs could do. Cops are not disciplinarians they are law enforcement officers.

Security guards should do the items listed above.

Principals, Counselors and therapists should deal with disciplinary actions.

Principals should be able to expel not move students around.

I'm not a therapist or counselor, but I don't believe counselors or therapists are trained to break up physical dangers nor do they desire to do that kind of thing. In the healthcare space, counselors and therapists rely on security guards to enable them to safely do their job. So why should school environments be any different?

Yes some are. Google STARS program in Denver. They should call the cop that is outside the school if it is a dangerous situation, which is rare. Just like nurses do in the ER.

It’s amazing what happens when you have people trained to deescalate.

I don't know what hospitals you've been to, but security guards are there and that's who nurses call.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it a coincidence that there's been a rise in violence, drugs, and weapons at MCPS property since SROs were removed? Hmm.

It's about the same; there's just a rise in postings about these things to fearmonger and help bring back SROs.

Unless your head has been so far up your a$$ that you can't read the news, you are playing down the uptick in violence in our schools

No it’s just more publicized

As a way to fearmonger to achieve political ends like bringing back SROs or making public schools into kid prison

You know what sounds a lot like prison? A place where people openly abuse substances and violence is tolerated and permitted.

Maybe it's not the parents who want better security and more stringent discipline in place who want to turn schools into "kid prison," but it's those who think that the current state is "just fine" or "not a big deal" that are interested in maintaining the kid prison dystopia.

I think a lot of the kids at RM, which has had 2 instances of guns on campus in as many weeks, would prefer SROs come back.
Maybe kids at Magruder and Einstein too. A lot of the parents want them back too. Sadly MCPD is so understaffed due to recruitment problems that I’m not sure they can staff the program.

x a million

-RM parent whose kids feel that way

RM .. the school with the security guard who was raping a student? While they had an SRO?

Lol, not a great example.

so we should get rid of security guards, too?

Since you respect cops so much ask them what they feel about security guards.

When lost at the mall, cops recommend that a child never approach a security guard but approach a women with children.

Security guards should be outside schools making sure threats from outside do not get in.

They should ensure doors lock, cameras work, security plans are in place.

They should not have contact with students.

ok, so no cops, no security guards, only teachers and good students who don't fight, bring weapons to school, no sexual assaults.

ITA. Can you make that happen in all MCPS public schools?

The problem with progressives is that they are pollyanna kumbaya, "hug it out", delusional

Nope.

I think we should have cops outside the school, like we have now, that deal with crimes not discipline. They should be able to respond in < 5 minutes which is more than what SROs could do. Cops are not disciplinarians they are law enforcement officers.

Security guards should do the items listed above.

Principals, Counselors and therapists should deal with disciplinary actions.

Principals should be able to expel not move students around.

That is not an option in MCPS. Or, really in public school, in general. It is not equitable, and public schools are required to educate all kids.

Children who are disruptive, hostile and a danger to others need to be isolated from their home schools in a separate environment. If not permanently, at least until they can prove they can be trusted to behave in their home school environment.

Dangerous yes.

Disruptive is too subjective… one persons disruptive is another persons developmentally normal. Also are you going to kick kids out with Tourette’s because they are disruptive. Kids need to learn to learn in classrooms tray are not perfectly quiet.

MCPS can define disruptive. But some things would include:

- Preventing other students from learning by harassing, bullying or taunting peers and teachers
- Being intentionally and consistently inappropriate in class (blasting loud music in headphones or using profane language

It's not hard to build a definition of this. MCPS has a code of conduct for a reason.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it a coincidence that there's been a rise in violence, drugs, and weapons at MCPS property since SROs were removed? Hmm.

It's about the same; there's just a rise in postings about these things to fearmonger and help bring back SROs.

Unless your head has been so far up your a$$ that you can't read the news, you are playing down the uptick in violence in our schools

No it’s just more publicized

As a way to fearmonger to achieve political ends like bringing back SROs or making public schools into kid prison

You know what sounds a lot like prison? A place where people openly abuse substances and violence is tolerated and permitted.

Maybe it's not the parents who want better security and more stringent discipline in place who want to turn schools into "kid prison," but it's those who think that the current state is "just fine" or "not a big deal" that are interested in maintaining the kid prison dystopia.

I think a lot of the kids at RM, which has had 2 instances of guns on campus in as many weeks, would prefer SROs come back.
Maybe kids at Magruder and Einstein too. A lot of the parents want them back too. Sadly MCPD is so understaffed due to recruitment problems that I’m not sure they can staff the program.

x a million

-RM parent whose kids feel that way

RM .. the school with the security guard who was raping a student? While they had an SRO?

Lol, not a great example.

so we should get rid of security guards, too?

Since you respect cops so much ask them what they feel about security guards.

When lost at the mall, cops recommend that a child never approach a security guard but approach a women with children.

Security guards should be outside schools making sure threats from outside do not get in.

They should ensure doors lock, cameras work, security plans are in place.

They should not have contact with students.

ok, so no cops, no security guards, only teachers and good students who don't fight, bring weapons to school, no sexual assaults.

ITA. Can you make that happen in all MCPS public schools?

The problem with progressives is that they are pollyanna kumbaya, "hug it out", delusional

Nope.

I think we should have cops outside the school, like we have now, that deal with crimes not discipline. They should be able to respond in < 5 minutes which is more than what SROs could do. Cops are not disciplinarians they are law enforcement officers.

Security guards should do the items listed above.

Principals, Counselors and therapists should deal with disciplinary actions.

Principals should be able to expel not move students around.

SROs can be in school and not deal with disciplinary issues. Their presence can be a deterrent from kids bringing guns to school.

I prefer they catch the person with the gun outside the school.

I don’t see the value of them in the school.

I would, too, but that's not always possible, so if you have SROs in schools, they can be a deterrent.