If a classmate threatened your child’s life

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, do not pass go. Call the police today and file a report. Inform the school head and board of directors that you are retaining counsel. File a restraining order.

You could keep your own child home until the violent one is removed but I agree your child 100% needs to be safe but it’s punishing him to withdraw him if you’re otherwise happy with the school.

Is this really a school you want your kid to stay at given that the admin hasn't apparently responded to the ongoing bullying?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I would definitely escalate if it wasn’t taken seriously. I would not want that child in my child class. ( I have a 5th grader) I would want to know if the child has access to a weapon at home. The Police would need to get involved for this. If no gun at home I’d be less worried. If parents are gun owners I’d be way more concerned.

What if the child also drew a knife?

Bye, NRA Troll.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you’re in FCPS, you would report it to the principal. A risk assessment would be completed by a member of the school support team (psychologist, counselor or social worker) with an administrator present because it was a threat to another person (versus a threat to self). There is a protocol with very specific questions to help determine the level of seriousness of the threat. They then follow through with contacting parents, discipline, etc.

Thanks. What happens after this step? Assuming if the independent evaluation comes back clear the student returns to class.

If the student is allowed back, how do they deal with the fallout? Who knows how the student will react to being disciplined. Other students report anger issues in class. These kids are about to go through a time of life when big feelings only get bigger. Would you keep your child at the school for the rest of their education if the other kid was staying?

This is what you care about?

Ethan Crumbley was doing the exact same thing. REPORT IT NOW.

I think we should all take it down a notch. I agree that OP should go to the school. But many many kids (and this kid is just 10-11) express fantasies like this. There’s a massive difference between normal (albeit undesirable) expressions and serious mental illness + guns that happened in the Crumbley case.

I see you live in 1983. How are things there?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you’re in FCPS, you would report it to the principal. A risk assessment would be completed by a member of the school support team (psychologist, counselor or social worker) with an administrator present because it was a threat to another person (versus a threat to self). There is a protocol with very specific questions to help determine the level of seriousness of the threat. They then follow through with contacting parents, discipline, etc.

Thanks. What happens after this step? Assuming if the independent evaluation comes back clear the student returns to class.

If the student is allowed back, how do they deal with the fallout? Who knows how the student will react to being disciplined. Other students report anger issues in class. These kids are about to go through a time of life when big feelings only get bigger. Would you keep your child at the school for the rest of their education if the other kid was staying?

This is what you care about?

Ethan Crumbley was doing the exact same thing. REPORT IT NOW.

I think we should all take it down a notch. I agree that OP should go to the school. But many many kids (and this kid is just 10-11) express fantasies like this. There’s a massive difference between normal (albeit undesirable) expressions and serious mental illness + guns that happened in the Crumbley case.

I’m not a professional. But drawing pictures of guns and knives is a step above saying “I’m going to kill you!” in an argument.

OP. The picture was drawn on a class assignment asking students to picture what they wanted in the new year.

Holy crap. 100% involve the cops if the school doesn’t respond swiftly and severely.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you’re in FCPS, you would report it to the principal. A risk assessment would be completed by a member of the school support team (psychologist, counselor or social worker) with an administrator present because it was a threat to another person (versus a threat to self). There is a protocol with very specific questions to help determine the level of seriousness of the threat. They then follow through with contacting parents, discipline, etc.

Thanks. What happens after this step? Assuming if the independent evaluation comes back clear the student returns to class.

If the student is allowed back, how do they deal with the fallout? Who knows how the student will react to being disciplined. Other students report anger issues in class. These kids are about to go through a time of life when big feelings only get bigger. Would you keep your child at the school for the rest of their education if the other kid was staying?

This is what you care about?

Ethan Crumbley was doing the exact same thing. REPORT IT NOW.

I think we should all take it down a notch. I agree that OP should go to the school. But many many kids (and this kid is just 10-11) express fantasies like this. There’s a massive difference between normal (albeit undesirable) expressions and serious mental illness + guns that happened in the Crumbley case.

Literally no.

I work in this field and can tell you that this is the age when these signs first manifest themself. Many kids do draw pictures of weapons and fights, but few draw specific pictures targeting one individual. Also, if the child is disruptive or bullying, I would see it as a serious concern.

Having worked with parents of school shooters and violent juveniles, I would be at the school first thing and want a target hardening report done of the school as well as a threat assessment of the child.

literally yes. you’re engaged in a logical fallacy/cognitive bias. just because some kids who engage in violence draw guns doesn’t mean every kid who expresses violent ideas is going to engage in violence.

yes the school should take is seriously, but hysteria is not necessary.

You’re wrong, and you should probably take a seat and listen to the professional.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What led to the drawing OP? What were the interactions?

Why? So you can victim blame? Nope.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was being bullied in middle school and wrote a note saying “I want these people to die.” Of course I was suspended. I’m sure they faced no consequences. Are you sure it isn’t your child doing the bullying, OP?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What would the police even do? There is no law.

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What would the police even do? There is no law.

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

What’s the law against a kid making drawings and saying stuff?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What would the police even do? There is no law.

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

I'm not the pp you quoted but I think you would be surprised at exactly how far someone can push "free speech." I think you'd also be surprised at how few rights victims have.

Some of the posts on here show that people live in a fantasy world. "I would demand this!" and "I want to know want weapons are in the house!" You can "demand' and "want to know" all you want--but you have no rights to any of that. Our system is set up to protect the accused's rights, not the victims.

Of course, since this specific situation is happening in a private school, the school can force the student to leave....yet they haven't. Like a PP said above, are you sure this is the school you want your child going to, OP?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you’re in FCPS, you would report it to the principal. A risk assessment would be completed by a member of the school support team (psychologist, counselor or social worker) with an administrator present because it was a threat to another person (versus a threat to self). There is a protocol with very specific questions to help determine the level of seriousness of the threat. They then follow through with contacting parents, discipline, etc.

Thanks. What happens after this step? Assuming if the independent evaluation comes back clear the student returns to class.

If the student is allowed back, how do they deal with the fallout? Who knows how the student will react to being disciplined. Other students report anger issues in class. These kids are about to go through a time of life when big feelings only get bigger. Would you keep your child at the school for the rest of their education if the other kid was staying?

This is what you care about?

Ethan Crumbley was doing the exact same thing. REPORT IT NOW.

I think we should all take it down a notch. I agree that OP should go to the school. But many many kids (and this kid is just 10-11) express fantasies like this. There’s a massive difference between normal (albeit undesirable) expressions and serious mental illness + guns that happened in the Crumbley case.

Literally no.

I work in this field and can tell you that this is the age when these signs first manifest themself. Many kids do draw pictures of weapons and fights, but few draw specific pictures targeting one individual. Also, if the child is disruptive or bullying, I would see it as a serious concern.

Having worked with parents of school shooters and violent juveniles, I would be at the school first thing and want a target hardening report done of the school as well as a threat assessment of the child.

literally yes. you’re engaged in a logical fallacy/cognitive bias. just because some kids who engage in violence draw guns doesn’t mean every kid who expresses violent ideas is going to engage in violence.

yes the school should take is seriously, but hysteria is not necessary.

You’re wrong, and you should probably take a seat and listen to the professional.

The actual profession is clear that there are often threats that are not actually threats. Do you think all threat assessments conclude with sending the child to a locked ward?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:What would the police even do? There is no law.

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

I'm not the pp you quoted but I think you would be surprised at exactly how far someone can push "free speech." I think you'd also be surprised at how few rights victims have.

Some of the posts on here show that people live in a fantasy world. "I would demand this!" and "I want to know want weapons are in the house!" You can "demand' and "want to know" all you want--but you have no rights to any of that. Our system is set up to protect the accused's rights, not the victims.

Of course, since this specific situation is happening in a private school, the school can force the student to leave....yet they haven't. Like a PP said above, are you sure this is the school you want your child going to, OP?

Well it would help if you’re clear about what you are demanding. Demanding that the school put supports into place to stop the behavior? That’s reasonable. Demanding that the child be arrested and prosecuted? Not realistic.