If a classmate threatened your child’s life

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would definitely escalate if it wasn’t taken seriously. I would not want that child in my child class. ( I have a 5th grader) I would want to know if the child has access to a weapon at home. The Police would need to get involved for this. If no gun at home I’d be less worried. If parents are gun owners I’d be way more concerned.

What if the child also drew a knife?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you’re in FCPS, you would report it to the principal. A risk assessment would be completed by a member of the school support team (psychologist, counselor or social worker) with an administrator present because it was a threat to another person (versus a threat to self). There is a protocol with very specific questions to help determine the level of seriousness of the threat. They then follow through with contacting parents, discipline, etc.

Thanks. What happens after this step? Assuming if the independent evaluation comes back clear the student returns to class.

If the student is allowed back, how do they deal with the fallout? Who knows how the student will react to being disciplined. Other students report anger issues in class. These kids are about to go through a time of life when big feelings only get bigger. Would you keep your child at the school for the rest of their education if the other kid was staying?

This is what you care about?

Ethan Crumbley was doing the exact same thing. REPORT IT NOW.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you’re in FCPS, you would report it to the principal. A risk assessment would be completed by a member of the school support team (psychologist, counselor or social worker) with an administrator present because it was a threat to another person (versus a threat to self). There is a protocol with very specific questions to help determine the level of seriousness of the threat. They then follow through with contacting parents, discipline, etc.

Thanks. What happens after this step? Assuming if the independent evaluation comes back clear the student returns to class.

If the student is allowed back, how do they deal with the fallout? Who knows how the student will react to being disciplined. Other students report anger issues in class. These kids are about to go through a time of life when big feelings only get bigger. Would you keep your child at the school for the rest of their education if the other kid was staying?

This is what you care about?

Ethan Crumbley was doing the exact same thing. REPORT IT NOW.

I think we should all take it down a notch. I agree that OP should go to the school. But many many kids (and this kid is just 10-11) express fantasies like this. There’s a massive difference between normal (albeit undesirable) expressions and serious mental illness + guns that happened in the Crumbley case.

[Anonymous]

Report and document. 5th grade, if it’s repeated behavior, school is doing nothing, etc. I’d honestly consider consulting the police.

[Anonymous]

I would definitely go to the police. And also notify the principal and the superintendent. Make sure the troubled child is immediately removed from the school. Makes sure all school communications are in writing. If they have warning and then there’s a school shooting that they didn’t prevent then they’ll be in a lot of trouble so they’ll probably take it seriously.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you’re in FCPS, you would report it to the principal. A risk assessment would be completed by a member of the school support team (psychologist, counselor or social worker) with an administrator present because it was a threat to another person (versus a threat to self). There is a protocol with very specific questions to help determine the level of seriousness of the threat. They then follow through with contacting parents, discipline, etc.

Thanks. What happens after this step? Assuming if the independent evaluation comes back clear the student returns to class.

If the student is allowed back, how do they deal with the fallout? Who knows how the student will react to being disciplined. Other students report anger issues in class. These kids are about to go through a time of life when big feelings only get bigger. Would you keep your child at the school for the rest of their education if the other kid was staying?

This is what you care about?

Ethan Crumbley was doing the exact same thing. REPORT IT NOW.

Not sure what you mean. It has been reported. If you mean police, what would they even do?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you’re in FCPS, you would report it to the principal. A risk assessment would be completed by a member of the school support team (psychologist, counselor or social worker) with an administrator present because it was a threat to another person (versus a threat to self). There is a protocol with very specific questions to help determine the level of seriousness of the threat. They then follow through with contacting parents, discipline, etc.

Thanks. What happens after this step? Assuming if the independent evaluation comes back clear the student returns to class.

If the student is allowed back, how do they deal with the fallout? Who knows how the student will react to being disciplined. Other students report anger issues in class. These kids are about to go through a time of life when big feelings only get bigger. Would you keep your child at the school for the rest of their education if the other kid was staying?

This is what you care about?

Ethan Crumbley was doing the exact same thing. REPORT IT NOW.

I’m not a professional. But drawing pictures of guns and knives is a step above saying “I’m going to kill you!” in an argument.
I think we should all take it down a notch. I agree that OP should go to the school. But many many kids (and this kid is just 10-11) express fantasies like this. There’s a massive difference between normal (albeit undesirable) expressions and serious mental illness + guns that happened in the Crumbley case.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you’re in FCPS, you would report it to the principal. A risk assessment would be completed by a member of the school support team (psychologist, counselor or social worker) with an administrator present because it was a threat to another person (versus a threat to self). There is a protocol with very specific questions to help determine the level of seriousness of the threat. They then follow through with contacting parents, discipline, etc.

Thanks. What happens after this step? Assuming if the independent evaluation comes back clear the student returns to class.

If the student is allowed back, how do they deal with the fallout? Who knows how the student will react to being disciplined. Other students report anger issues in class. These kids are about to go through a time of life when big feelings only get bigger. Would you keep your child at the school for the rest of their education if the other kid was staying?

This is what you care about?

Ethan Crumbley was doing the exact same thing. REPORT IT NOW.

I think we should all take it down a notch. I agree that OP should go to the school. But many many kids (and this kid is just 10-11) express fantasies like this. There’s a massive difference between normal (albeit undesirable) expressions and serious mental illness + guns that happened in the Crumbley case.

I’m not a professional. But drawing pictures of guns and knives is a step above saying “I’m going to kill you!” in an argument.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you’re in FCPS, you would report it to the principal. A risk assessment would be completed by a member of the school support team (psychologist, counselor or social worker) with an administrator present because it was a threat to another person (versus a threat to self). There is a protocol with very specific questions to help determine the level of seriousness of the threat. They then follow through with contacting parents, discipline, etc.

Thanks. What happens after this step? Assuming if the independent evaluation comes back clear the student returns to class.

If the student is allowed back, how do they deal with the fallout? Who knows how the student will react to being disciplined. Other students report anger issues in class. These kids are about to go through a time of life when big feelings only get bigger. Would you keep your child at the school for the rest of their education if the other kid was staying?

This is what you care about?

Ethan Crumbley was doing the exact same thing. REPORT IT NOW.

I think we should all take it down a notch. I agree that OP should go to the school. But many many kids (and this kid is just 10-11) express fantasies like this. There’s a massive difference between normal (albeit undesirable) expressions and serious mental illness + guns that happened in the Crumbley case.

I’m not a professional. But drawing pictures of guns and knives is a step above saying “I’m going to kill you!” in an argument.

OP. The picture was drawn on a class assignment asking students to picture what they wanted in the new year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you’re in FCPS, you would report it to the principal. A risk assessment would be completed by a member of the school support team (psychologist, counselor or social worker) with an administrator present because it was a threat to another person (versus a threat to self). There is a protocol with very specific questions to help determine the level of seriousness of the threat. They then follow through with contacting parents, discipline, etc.

Thanks. What happens after this step? Assuming if the independent evaluation comes back clear the student returns to class.

If the student is allowed back, how do they deal with the fallout? Who knows how the student will react to being disciplined. Other students report anger issues in class. These kids are about to go through a time of life when big feelings only get bigger. Would you keep your child at the school for the rest of their education if the other kid was staying?

This is what you care about?

Ethan Crumbley was doing the exact same thing. REPORT IT NOW.

I think we should all take it down a notch. I agree that OP should go to the school. But many many kids (and this kid is just 10-11) express fantasies like this. There’s a massive difference between normal (albeit undesirable) expressions and serious mental illness + guns that happened in the Crumbley case.

Literally no.

I work in this field and can tell you that this is the age when these signs first manifest themself. Many kids do draw pictures of weapons and fights, but few draw specific pictures targeting one individual. Also, if the child is disruptive or bullying, I would see it as a serious concern.

Having worked with parents of school shooters and violent juveniles, I would be at the school first thing and want a target hardening report done of the school as well as a threat assessment of the child.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you’re in FCPS, you would report it to the principal. A risk assessment would be completed by a member of the school support team (psychologist, counselor or social worker) with an administrator present because it was a threat to another person (versus a threat to self). There is a protocol with very specific questions to help determine the level of seriousness of the threat. They then follow through with contacting parents, discipline, etc.

Thanks. What happens after this step? Assuming if the independent evaluation comes back clear the student returns to class.

If the student is allowed back, how do they deal with the fallout? Who knows how the student will react to being disciplined. Other students report anger issues in class. These kids are about to go through a time of life when big feelings only get bigger. Would you keep your child at the school for the rest of their education if the other kid was staying?

This is what you care about?

Ethan Crumbley was doing the exact same thing. REPORT IT NOW.

I think we should all take it down a notch. I agree that OP should go to the school. But many many kids (and this kid is just 10-11) express fantasies like this. There’s a massive difference between normal (albeit undesirable) expressions and serious mental illness + guns that happened in the Crumbley case.

Literally no.

I work in this field and can tell you that this is the age when these signs first manifest themself. Many kids do draw pictures of weapons and fights, but few draw specific pictures targeting one individual. Also, if the child is disruptive or bullying, I would see it as a serious concern.

Having worked with parents of school shooters and violent juveniles, I would be at the school first thing and want a target hardening report done of the school as well as a threat assessment of the child.

Thanks. These are our concerns. What is a target hardening report?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you’re in FCPS, you would report it to the principal. A risk assessment would be completed by a member of the school support team (psychologist, counselor or social worker) with an administrator present because it was a threat to another person (versus a threat to self). There is a protocol with very specific questions to help determine the level of seriousness of the threat. They then follow through with contacting parents, discipline, etc.

Thanks. What happens after this step? Assuming if the independent evaluation comes back clear the student returns to class.

If the student is allowed back, how do they deal with the fallout? Who knows how the student will react to being disciplined. Other students report anger issues in class. These kids are about to go through a time of life when big feelings only get bigger. Would you keep your child at the school for the rest of their education if the other kid was staying?

This is what you care about?

Ethan Crumbley was doing the exact same thing. REPORT IT NOW.

Not sure what you mean. It has been reported. If you mean police, what would they even do?

Reported where, I didn't see the OP mention reporting it.

I would report first to the principal (not teacher) and the school guidance counselor if they have one. If I didn't get an immediate response that assessments were being done, I'd go to the police.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you’re in FCPS, you would report it to the principal. A risk assessment would be completed by a member of the school support team (psychologist, counselor or social worker) with an administrator present because it was a threat to another person (versus a threat to self). There is a protocol with very specific questions to help determine the level of seriousness of the threat. They then follow through with contacting parents, discipline, etc.

This protocol is ludicrous because it takes so much time that the threatened child could have been killed. Kid who threatened is expelled immediately.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you’re in FCPS, you would report it to the principal. A risk assessment would be completed by a member of the school support team (psychologist, counselor or social worker) with an administrator present because it was a threat to another person (versus a threat to self). There is a protocol with very specific questions to help determine the level of seriousness of the threat. They then follow through with contacting parents, discipline, etc.

Thanks. What happens after this step? Assuming if the independent evaluation comes back clear the student returns to class.

If the student is allowed back, how do they deal with the fallout? Who knows how the student will react to being disciplined. Other students report anger issues in class. These kids are about to go through a time of life when big feelings only get bigger. Would you keep your child at the school for the rest of their education if the other kid was staying?

This is what you care about?

Ethan Crumbley was doing the exact same thing. REPORT IT NOW.

I think we should all take it down a notch. I agree that OP should go to the school. But many many kids (and this kid is just 10-11) express fantasies like this. There’s a massive difference between normal (albeit undesirable) expressions and serious mental illness + guns that happened in the Crumbley case.

Literally no.

I work in this field and can tell you that this is the age when these signs first manifest themself. Many kids do draw pictures of weapons and fights, but few draw specific pictures targeting one individual. Also, if the child is disruptive or bullying, I would see it as a serious concern.

Having worked with parents of school shooters and violent juveniles, I would be at the school first thing and want a target hardening report done of the school as well as a threat assessment of the child.

Also, what kind of threat assessment? Who would have access to the results?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you’re in FCPS, you would report it to the principal. A risk assessment would be completed by a member of the school support team (psychologist, counselor or social worker) with an administrator present because it was a threat to another person (versus a threat to self). There is a protocol with very specific questions to help determine the level of seriousness of the threat. They then follow through with contacting parents, discipline, etc.

Thanks. What happens after this step? Assuming if the independent evaluation comes back clear the student returns to class.

If the student is allowed back, how do they deal with the fallout? Who knows how the student will react to being disciplined. Other students report anger issues in class. These kids are about to go through a time of life when big feelings only get bigger. Would you keep your child at the school for the rest of their education if the other kid was staying?

This is what you care about?

Ethan Crumbley was doing the exact same thing. REPORT IT NOW.

I think we should all take it down a notch. I agree that OP should go to the school. But many many kids (and this kid is just 10-11) express fantasies like this. There’s a massive difference between normal (albeit undesirable) expressions and serious mental illness + guns that happened in the Crumbley case.

Literally no.

I work in this field and can tell you that this is the age when these signs first manifest themself. Many kids do draw pictures of weapons and fights, but few draw specific pictures targeting one individual. Also, if the child is disruptive or bullying, I would see it as a serious concern.

Having worked with parents of school shooters and violent juveniles, I would be at the school first thing and want a target hardening report done of the school as well as a threat assessment of the child.

Thanks. These are our concerns. What is a target hardening report?

A report done by the school which shows how they keep it safe. Example, if they don't have magnetometer (which elementary schools rarely do) what steps do they have in place to ensure no weapons, etc. Do they only have one locked door during school hours, how are people allowed into the building, etc.