Covid Status

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher and it’s pretty obvious that COVID is back. I just had it for the first time since testing was available (pretty sure Feb 20 was it but no testing). It’s all well and good to say “don’t test” but I literally felt like I got hit my a truck. And I’m fully vaccinated…..just about to get new booster as it was coming out.

So it’s not over exactly. It’s still going to disrupt things.

Back? It didn’t go anywhere to begin with. Nor is it going to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Just a reminder for those doing the name calling (e.g. wearing a diaper, big baby, etc.); (1) you are free to move onto a different thread, (2) we're happy you're fine, but not everyone else is. Last year the lack of attention to trends caused the January / February fiasco where so many schools were out of staff that 31 schools had to go virtual for two weeks and MCPS was begging the National Guard to drive children to school. If MCPS leadership had paid attention to these trends, it all could have been avoided.

There is no point to this thread. There never has been. There is nothing actionable coming out of this.

It's a kvetch-fest. That's something.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Mask does not do the trick. Most got covid wearing while a mask. I did not wear a face diaper for all of 2022 and most of 2021. I got covid once and it was more mild than the cold I caught last year. Seriously. Got a shot. Go to work. Go to school. It really is that easy.

See you in the alzheimer's clinic at age 48

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher and it’s pretty obvious that COVID is back. I just had it for the first time since testing was available (pretty sure Feb 20 was it but no testing). It’s all well and good to say “don’t test” but I literally felt like I got hit my a truck. And I’m fully vaccinated…..just about to get new booster as it was coming out.

So it’s not over exactly. It’s still going to disrupt things.

Hopefully most people know this by now, but just to reiterate - being vaccinated and/or booster does NOT prevent you from getting Covid.

The CDC, Pfizer and Fauci deliberately misled us to think that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher and it’s pretty obvious that COVID is back. I just had it for the first time since testing was available (pretty sure Feb 20 was it but no testing). It’s all well and good to say “don’t test” but I literally felt like I got hit my a truck. And I’m fully vaccinated…..just about to get new booster as it was coming out.

So it’s not over exactly. It’s still going to disrupt things.

Hopefully most people know this by now, but just to reiterate - being vaccinated and/or booster does NOT prevent you from getting Covid.

The CDC, Pfizer and Fauci deliberately misled us to think that.

I don't know if I agree. I got boosted last September and didn't catch COVID for the entire 21-22 school year, despite direct exposure to colleagues who came up positive. Masking ended last February.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher and it’s pretty obvious that COVID is back. I just had it for the first time since testing was available (pretty sure Feb 20 was it but no testing). It’s all well and good to say “don’t test” but I literally felt like I got hit my a truck. And I’m fully vaccinated…..just about to get new booster as it was coming out.

So it’s not over exactly. It’s still going to disrupt things.

Hopefully most people know this by now, but just to reiterate - being vaccinated and/or booster does NOT prevent you from getting Covid.

The CDC, Pfizer and Fauci deliberately misled us to think that.

This canard again?! Yes, it doesn't prevent you from getting covid. Being vaxxed/boosted does reduce your chance of getting it, and if you get it it reduces your symptoms, reduces the chance you give it to someone else, and reduces the chance of long covid.

Almost everyone would benefit from being vaxxed and boosted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher and it’s pretty obvious that COVID is back. I just had it for the first time since testing was available (pretty sure Feb 20 was it but no testing). It’s all well and good to say “don’t test” but I literally felt like I got hit my a truck. And I’m fully vaccinated…..just about to get new booster as it was coming out.

So it’s not over exactly. It’s still going to disrupt things.

Hopefully most people know this by now, but just to reiterate - being vaccinated and/or booster does NOT prevent you from getting Covid.

The CDC, Pfizer and Fauci deliberately misled us to think that.

This canard again?! Yes, it doesn't prevent you from getting covid. Being vaxxed/boosted does reduce your chance of getting it, and if you get it it reduces your symptoms, reduces the chance you give it to someone else, and reduces the chance of long covid.

Almost everyone would benefit from being vaxxed and boosted.

Sorry, that is simply not true when you look at the stats.

And the benefit of being vaccinated/boosted is definitely dependent on age.

Also, there are not any studies that show a benefit of boosters for 12 year old kids. So, certainly not everyone benefits from getting a booster or two.

[Anonymous]

PRE-INFECTION MEASURES:
- Masking. Reduces, but does not eliminate viral load.
- Air Filtration. Same.
- Cleaning touch surfaces. Same.
- Nasal Sprays / gels. Unclear whether these really work or not, but same theory.
- Antibodies produced from vaccinations / Vitamins / sleep etc. It depends. Your body's ability to detect and produce antibodies must exceed the viruses ability to replicate.

POST-INFECTION MEASURES
- Vaccination. Shortens the time your immune system takes to detect / recognize infection, and produce antibodies. Lack of sleep or nutrition, immune system weakened from disease, etc. limits the effectiveness.
- Treatments such as antibody therapies. The WHO recently warned against two of them as ineffective - sotrovimab and casirivimab-imdevimab.
- Covid pill molnupiravir. Effective, although there have been many reported cases of a rebound infection once you stop taking the pill.

SUMMARY:
I believe that in general, reducing initial viral load is the key to having a "mild case" versus a more serious one,

Anyone who says they won't mask, or clean surfaces, or use air filtration units is effectively throwing away half of the possible protections. Those people are far, far more likely to be infected first (the canaries in the coal mine for everyone else).

The good news is that the availability of bivalent vaccines are currently effective against BA.2.75, BA.4 and BA.5, so I think that only the kids who didn't receive bivalent vaccine (mainly under 12, or with parents who don't know the difference between a bivalent vaccine and the original) have the possibility of getting really sick. I've also met many adults that didn't even know the bivalent vaccine is already available. It's sad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher and it’s pretty obvious that COVID is back. I just had it for the first time since testing was available (pretty sure Feb 20 was it but no testing). It’s all well and good to say “don’t test” but I literally felt like I got hit my a truck. And I’m fully vaccinated…..just about to get new booster as it was coming out.

So it’s not over exactly. It’s still going to disrupt things.

Hopefully most people know this by now, but just to reiterate - being vaccinated and/or booster does NOT prevent you from getting Covid.

The CDC, Pfizer and Fauci deliberately misled us to think that.

This canard again?! Yes, it doesn't prevent you from getting covid. Being vaxxed/boosted does reduce your chance of getting it, and if you get it it reduces your symptoms, reduces the chance you give it to someone else, and reduces the chance of long covid.

Almost everyone would benefit from being vaxxed and boosted.

Sorry, that is simply not true when you look at the stats.

And the benefit of being vaccinated/boosted is definitely dependent on age.

Also, there are not any studies that show a benefit of boosters for 12 year old kids. So, certainly not everyone benefits from getting a booster or two.

What stats are those? Link?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PRE-INFECTION MEASURES:
- Masking. Reduces, but does not eliminate viral load.
- Air Filtration. Same.
- Cleaning touch surfaces. Same.
- Nasal Sprays / gels. Unclear whether these really work or not, but same theory.
- Antibodies produced from vaccinations / Vitamins / sleep etc. It depends. Your body's ability to detect and produce antibodies must exceed the viruses ability to replicate.

POST-INFECTION MEASURES
- Vaccination. Shortens the time your immune system takes to detect / recognize infection, and produce antibodies. Lack of sleep or nutrition, immune system weakened from disease, etc. limits the effectiveness.
- Treatments such as antibody therapies. The WHO recently warned against two of them as ineffective - sotrovimab and casirivimab-imdevimab.
- Covid pill molnupiravir. Effective, although there have been many reported cases of a rebound infection once you stop taking the pill.

SUMMARY:
I believe that in general, reducing initial viral load is the key to having a "mild case" versus a more serious one,

Anyone who says they won't mask, or clean surfaces, or use air filtration units is effectively throwing away half of the possible protections. Those people are far, far more likely to be infected first (the canaries in the coal mine for everyone else).

The good news is that the availability of bivalent vaccines are currently effective against BA.2.75, BA.4 and BA.5, so I think that only the kids who didn't receive bivalent vaccine (mainly under 12, or with parents who don't know the difference between a bivalent vaccine and the original) have the possibility of getting really sick. I've also met many adults that didn't even know the bivalent vaccine is already available. It's sad.

Hard to take this seriously when you ignore natural immunity. The rest of the world honors natural immunity because it has been shown to be robust and effective.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mask does not do the trick. Most got covid wearing while a mask. I did not wear a face diaper for all of 2022 and most of 2021. I got covid once and it was more mild than the cold I caught last year. Seriously. Got a shot. Go to work. Go to school. It really is that easy.

See you in the alzheimer's clinic at age 48

Once someone says face diaper, the dementia has already set in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PRE-INFECTION MEASURES:
- Masking. Reduces, but does not eliminate viral load.
- Air Filtration. Same.
- Cleaning touch surfaces. Same.
- Nasal Sprays / gels. Unclear whether these really work or not, but same theory.
- Antibodies produced from vaccinations / Vitamins / sleep etc. It depends. Your body's ability to detect and produce antibodies must exceed the viruses ability to replicate.

POST-INFECTION MEASURES
- Vaccination. Shortens the time your immune system takes to detect / recognize infection, and produce antibodies. Lack of sleep or nutrition, immune system weakened from disease, etc. limits the effectiveness.
- Treatments such as antibody therapies. The WHO recently warned against two of them as ineffective - sotrovimab and casirivimab-imdevimab.
- Covid pill molnupiravir. Effective, although there have been many reported cases of a rebound infection once you stop taking the pill.

SUMMARY:
I believe that in general, reducing initial viral load is the key to having a "mild case" versus a more serious one,

Anyone who says they won't mask, or clean surfaces, or use air filtration units is effectively throwing away half of the possible protections. Those people are far, far more likely to be infected first (the canaries in the coal mine for everyone else).

The good news is that the availability of bivalent vaccines are currently effective against BA.2.75, BA.4 and BA.5, so I think that only the kids who didn't receive bivalent vaccine (mainly under 12, or with parents who don't know the difference between a bivalent vaccine and the original) have the possibility of getting really sick. I've also met many adults that didn't even know the bivalent vaccine is already available. It's sad.

Hard to take this seriously when you ignore natural immunity. The rest of the world honors natural immunity because it has been shown to be robust and effective.

One of my coworkers has been positive four times since mid-2020. There are others who have had it three times. Tells me natural immunity doesn’t last very long.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PRE-INFECTION MEASURES:
- Masking. Reduces, but does not eliminate viral load.
- Air Filtration. Same.
- Cleaning touch surfaces. Same.
- Nasal Sprays / gels. Unclear whether these really work or not, but same theory.
- Antibodies produced from vaccinations / Vitamins / sleep etc. It depends. Your body's ability to detect and produce antibodies must exceed the viruses ability to replicate.

POST-INFECTION MEASURES
- Vaccination. Shortens the time your immune system takes to detect / recognize infection, and produce antibodies. Lack of sleep or nutrition, immune system weakened from disease, etc. limits the effectiveness.
- Treatments such as antibody therapies. The WHO recently warned against two of them as ineffective - sotrovimab and casirivimab-imdevimab.
- Covid pill molnupiravir. Effective, although there have been many reported cases of a rebound infection once you stop taking the pill.

SUMMARY:
I believe that in general, reducing initial viral load is the key to having a "mild case" versus a more serious one,

Anyone who says they won't mask, or clean surfaces, or use air filtration units is effectively throwing away half of the possible protections. Those people are far, far more likely to be infected first (the canaries in the coal mine for everyone else).

The good news is that the availability of bivalent vaccines are currently effective against BA.2.75, BA.4 and BA.5, so I think that only the kids who didn't receive bivalent vaccine (mainly under 12, or with parents who don't know the difference between a bivalent vaccine and the original) have the possibility of getting really sick. I've also met many adults that didn't even know the bivalent vaccine is already available. It's sad.

Hard to take this seriously when you ignore natural immunity. The rest of the world honors natural immunity because it has been shown to be robust and effective.

Some people have natural immunity, others don't and are getting it multiple times. If you have natural immunity, lucky you but for the rest of us, we'll get it multiple times.

[Anonymous]

“Immunity” due to previous infection or vaccination starts to fade away after 6 months. That’s why we have boosters. You still have some protection from severe infection/disease/hospitalization without the boosters though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“Immunity” due to previous infection or vaccination starts to fade away after 6 months. That’s why we have boosters. You still have some protection from severe infection/disease/hospitalization without the boosters though.

The risk for most for severe infection/hospitalization is pretty slim, especially for kids so I don't get why some demand everyone take multiple boosters. If you can scream on here no kids have died of covid, why do we need to keep dosing our kids with a vaccine that we don't have more than a few years of data on long term and no data on the brand new booster. If you want the booster, great, take it, but stop pushing it on others. Covid has mutated to where it is more contagious and less deadly. So, at this point, I'm more worried about transmission vs. hospitalization and we are doing nothing in MCPS to stop transmission.