Arlington or Montgomery County? [VA/MD]

Anonymous
I’ve lived in both. For what you describe I’d pick Arlington. For one it’s much, much smaller, so has more of a neighborhood feel. You can’t go more than 20 minutes and still be in the county so with kids, you end up knowing lots of people because they’re in the same gymnastics class at age 2, in soccer together at 6, etc. And it’s a great place to raise a family- lots of parks and playgrounds, a huge parks and rec department with tons of kids stuff.
Also there aren’t big housing developments the way there are in MoCo. Arlington is mostly a grid with a few commercial streets and then everything else residential. So lots of places are walkable to metro and shops, which you won’t find in much of MoCo.
The schools are for the most part good. They struggled during the pandemic and lots fled to privates, but that means many schools aren’t overcrowded anymore.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wow - tough decision. Really neither county enforces any laws. So they are both a crazy dystopian place to live. They have super high crime that is not reported by county policy and average at best schools. I would keep looking.


Can you talk more about this, especially in Arlington?


DP. South Arlington low level crime never bothered people but they panicked when crime came to North Arlington in the form of car jackings, assaults, catalytic converters thefts, houses burgled for car keys that were then stolen, and such a large number of thefts from unlocked cars and autos that flashing Road signs tell people to lock their cars.

Criminals were emboldened by the Commonwealth's Attorney who believes more in equity than prosecuting crimes. Long time prosecutors left or were fired, and she has an inexperienced staff. The police are also short staffed and respond to only major crimes. As long as you are careful and can. Afford a property with a garage you are okay.

It is the price we pay to ensure that the rights of criminals (most of whom are from DC) are valued more than residents.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Really have to caution you on MCPS and it’s alleged reputation as good. This is maybe from the 1990s - and they have been COASTING for at least the past decade plus. Know nothing about Arlington. Gosh, can you ask for transfer to another region? Just wouldn’t come here - and schools are main reason. Now if you can swing private maybe… and then either Arlington or Moco work. Arlington would win because no need for a car. Walkable. But parts of Bethesda are like that too - in fairness.


Only people living in a bubble would deem MCPS as bad.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:22-year resident of DC here. We are considering a move to the close-suburbs and are looking at these two areas as well. Bethesda has some beautiful homes and areas (Kenwood especially). Bethesda center is nice and very tidy. I just can't get excited about it. I prefer Arlington and its neighborhood areas, which seem to have a bit more personality. But maybe that's unfair since I don't know MoCo so well. What I was surprised about, though, is the uncertainty of the schools in Arlington. There's so much movement and reorganization and people seem deeply unhappy with ACPS on this forum so it's given me some pause (we are at the elementary level in DCPS right now and quite happy with our school so not in a rush to move). I absolutely love Takoma Park, MD, and agree that someone from the Bay area might find a lot to love about it. It's the DC area at its crunchiest/funkiest!


I believe that ACPS are the Alexandria schools. APS is Arlington. Arlington schools aren't perfect, but I'd take them over Alexandria!
Anonymous
A few things:
1. Arlington has amazing parks. They are well-maintained, walkable in neighborhoods, and fun for kids.
2. Despite our governor right now, Virginia is turning purple and Nova is moderate-to-liberal. I can't stand Youngkin, but I'm hopeful that we'll be blue again soon. He's like Mike Pence with his blandness poorly hiding the fact that he's terrible.
3. Arlington (and Nova in general) is growing, both in terms of population and business development. Arlington in particular is designed for walkability with corridors of business surrounded by dense residential neighborhoods.
4. People like to say there is no diversity in Arlington and since I'm from the Midwest, I'm used to diversity being black-white, which is not the predominant diversity in Virginia. We have huge Asian and Hispanic populations, and economic diversity. Also there is a lot of religious diversity. Diversity is not defined by one racial framework.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:A few things:
1. Arlington has amazing parks. They are well-maintained, walkable in neighborhoods, and fun for kids.
2. Despite our governor right now, Virginia is turning purple and Nova is moderate-to-liberal. I can't stand Youngkin, but I'm hopeful that we'll be blue again soon. He's like Mike Pence with his blandness poorly hiding the fact that he's terrible.
3. Arlington (and Nova in general) is growing, both in terms of population and business development. Arlington in particular is designed for walkability with corridors of business surrounded by dense residential neighborhoods.
4. People like to say there is no diversity in Arlington and since I'm from the Midwest, I'm used to diversity being black-white, which is not the predominant diversity in Virginia. We have huge Asian and Hispanic populations, and economic diversity. Also there is a lot of religious diversity. Diversity is not defined by one racial framework.


Is this the part where you tell us about your black friend and your Asian drycleaner?
Anonymous
OP
Given current politics moving to VA before knowing if the VA legislature will turn red fully is just dumb.

Youngkin is going to privatize schools.
The only one holding him at bay is L Louise Lucas

He will destroy VA he is a liar and criminal however he is gov for three more years. He will do everything he can to make a ultra conservative state. IE Women will lose more rights.

VA is not a place to move to currently.

MCPS is a great school system ignore the trolls.


Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wow - tough decision. Really neither county enforces any laws. So they are both a crazy dystopian place to live. They have super high crime that is not reported by county policy and average at best schools. I would keep looking.


Can you talk more about this, especially in Arlington?


There is not a ton of crime in arlington. Hardly. There are the drunk fights in bars in Clarendon and car hackings in pentagon city. Arlington is a very safe place to live. I probably wouldn’t want to live on culpepper st, but other than that, I’d live almost anywhere in arlington and feel safe.


Arlington stopped tracking and reporting property crimes like 2 years ago. Where have you been?
There are hundreds of car break ins EVERY day that they do not put into county stats. Only over some amount like 1000 in value or 5000 or something ridiculous is recorded.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP
Given current politics moving to VA before knowing if the VA legislature will turn red fully is just dumb.

Youngkin is going to privatize schools.
The only one holding him at bay is L Louise Lucas

He will destroy VA he is a liar and criminal however he is gov for three more years. He will do everything he can to make a ultra conservative state. IE Women will lose more rights.

VA is not a place to move to currently.

MCPS is a great school system ignore the trolls.




If you move every time a new politician takes office, you'll be moving a lot. The politics of the current Va. governor are a trivial consideration for most rational people, who are much more impacted in their day to day lives by issues like transportation infrastructure, taxes, school system quality and availability (including at the university level), crime, and issues other than which way right/left political winds are currently blowing in Richmond.

In Maryland, on the other hand, it's likely the political landscape will remain strongly to the left indefinitely, if that's what floats your boat.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP
Given current politics moving to VA before knowing if the VA legislature will turn red fully is just dumb.

Youngkin is going to privatize schools.
The only one holding him at bay is L Louise Lucas

He will destroy VA he is a liar and criminal however he is gov for three more years. He will do everything he can to make a ultra conservative state. IE Women will lose more rights.

VA is not a place to move to currently.

MCPS is a great school system ignore the trolls.




You are the troll and you embarrass yourself with your constant, over-the-top hysteria.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP
Given current politics moving to VA before knowing if the VA legislature will turn red fully is just dumb.

Youngkin is going to privatize schools.
The only one holding him at bay is L Louise Lucas

He will destroy VA he is a liar and criminal however he is gov for three more years. He will do everything he can to make a ultra conservative state. IE Women will lose more rights.

VA is not a place to move to currently.

MCPS is a great school system ignore the trolls.




+1
Arlington has enough people. Bethesda needs more people (who probably commute to va for their jobs).
Anonymous
Neither. I'd pick neither!

It's like choosing between the lesser of evils - better high schools (MoCo) versus better in-state colleges (Arlington).

Instead, I'd rather live in McLean, Falls Church (22046), or Vienna (near Old Courthouse Rd to avoid 123). Then you get good schools + in-state colleges, with a decent commute.



Signed,

A MoCo native in NOVA.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Really have to caution you on MCPS and it’s alleged reputation as good. This is maybe from the 1990s - and they have been COASTING for at least the past decade plus. Know nothing about Arlington. Gosh, can you ask for transfer to another region? Just wouldn’t come here - and schools are main reason. Now if you can swing private maybe… and then either Arlington or Moco work. Arlington would win because no need for a car. Walkable. But parts of Bethesda are like that too - in fairness.


Only people living in a bubble would deem MCPS as bad.


Half of MCPS kids unable to read at grade level is living in a bubble? Okaaaay…
Anonymous
Sorry in third grade…half of MCPS kids in third grade can’t read at grade level
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP
Given current politics moving to VA before knowing if the VA legislature will turn red fully is just dumb.

Youngkin is going to privatize schools.
The only one holding him at bay is L Louise Lucas

He will destroy VA he is a liar and criminal however he is gov for three more years. He will do everything he can to make a ultra conservative state. IE Women will lose more rights.

VA is not a place to move to currently.

MCPS is a great school system ignore the trolls.




OP. Posts like the above should convince you to stay in CA. DMV is filled with hyperbolic loons who were not properly toilet trained
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