USNEWS 2023 rankings

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Liberal Arts Colleges (LAC) ranking guess:

I love Williams College, but I think that Williams, Amherst, Swarthmone, Pomona, Wellesley, and Carleton College are deserving of the top ranking.

Claremont McKenna is in an elite class by itself as is Harvey Mudd College.

Bowdoin College has a friendly, close-knit, elite, prep boarding school feel (more like St. Paul's School & Groton, than Andover or Exeter).

My guess:

1) Williams College
2) Amherst College

3) Pomona College
3) Swarthmore College

5) Wellesley College

6) Bowdoin College
6) Carleton College

8) Claremont McKenna College

9) Middlebury College

10) Colby College (playing the ratings game well)
10) Davidson College
10) Harvey Mudd College

13) Grinnell College
13) Wash & Lee University

15) Hamilton College
15) Haverford College
15) Colgate University

18) USMA-West Point
18) USNA--Annapolis
18) USAFA--Colorado Springs

21) Barnard College
21) Smith College

23) Wesleyan University
24) Kenyon College
25) Bryn Mawr
26) Univ. of Richmond
27) College of the Holy Cross

28) Franklin & Marshall
29) Macalester College
30) Rhodes College

31) Bates College
31) SOKA
31) Thomas Aquinas
31) Oberlin College

35) Occidental College
36) Lafayette College

37) Centre College
37) Whitman College
37) Mount Holyoke College

40) Bucknell University
41) Gettysburg College
42) Trinity College
43) Gettysburg College
44) Furman University

Scripps?

Yes, Scripps should definitely be there. The ranking below (using totally different criteria from USNWR/WSJ/Forbes) has Scripps at #3 INCLUDING national universities. Not saying that seems right, but it's not nothing.

https://lesshighschoolstress.com/blog/6/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=University+of+Southern+California&with=Georgetown+University

USC: 56 vs GT 44

https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=University+of+Southern+California&with=Emory+University

USC: 72 vs Emory 28

https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=University+of+Southern+California&with=New+York+University

USC: 83 vs NYU 17

Welcome to the 21st century!

PP for the mic drop

Except for Parchment data is notoriously self-selecting and unreliable.

Better than something out of your ass lol

Peer reputation scores did not come out of my ass, but from college dean's and presidents they seem to agree that USC is overrated. NYU has Stern and Georgetown has SFS.

USC has School of Cinematic Arts which is #1 in the US if not in the world. Its Engineering is better than NYU. USC Marshais also highly ranked.

I'll take a bet.
USC will be higer than NYU for 2023 by USN&WR
Let me know how much you are willing to bet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:USC, NYU, and Georgetown are overrated

Except the GT School of Foreign Service, which really doesn't have a domestic rival in terms of curriculum or selectivity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Liberal Arts Colleges (LAC) ranking guess:

I love Williams College, but I think that Williams, Amherst, Swarthmone, Pomona, Wellesley, and Carleton College are deserving of the top ranking.

Claremont McKenna is in an elite class by itself as is Harvey Mudd College.

Bowdoin College has a friendly, close-knit, elite, prep boarding school feel (more like St. Paul's School & Groton, than Andover or Exeter).

My guess:

1) Williams College
2) Amherst College

3) Pomona College
3) Swarthmore College

5) Wellesley College

6) Bowdoin College
6) Carleton College

8) Claremont McKenna College

9) Middlebury College

10) Colby College (playing the ratings game well)
10) Davidson College
10) Harvey Mudd College

13) Grinnell College
13) Wash & Lee University

15) Hamilton College
15) Haverford College
15) Colgate University

18) USMA-West Point
18) USNA--Annapolis
18) USAFA--Colorado Springs

21) Barnard College
21) Smith College

23) Wesleyan University
24) Kenyon College
25) Bryn Mawr
26) Univ. of Richmond
27) College of the Holy Cross

28) Franklin & Marshall
29) Macalester College
30) Rhodes College

31) Bates College
31) SOKA
31) Thomas Aquinas
31) Oberlin College

35) Occidental College
36) Lafayette College

37) Centre College
37) Whitman College
37) Mount Holyoke College

40) Bucknell University
41) Gettysburg College
42) Trinity College
43) Gettysburg College
44) Furman University

Scripps?

Sorry, I forgot Scripps College. Probably around #30, but because of the consortium, it could easily be one's absolute top choice school. Scripps is a special place--just like CMC. The difficulty with LACs is that fit is much more important than with respect to National Universities. So many great colleges & universities in the US. Please accept my apology for my oversight.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Liberal Arts Colleges (LAC) ranking guess:

I love Williams College, but I think that Williams, Amherst, Swarthmone, Pomona, Wellesley, and Carleton College are deserving of the top ranking.

Claremont McKenna is in an elite class by itself as is Harvey Mudd College.

Bowdoin College has a friendly, close-knit, elite, prep boarding school feel (more like St. Paul's School & Groton, than Andover or Exeter).

My guess:

1) Williams College
2) Amherst College

3) Pomona College
3) Swarthmore College

5) Wellesley College

6) Bowdoin College
6) Carleton College

8) Claremont McKenna College

9) Middlebury College

10) Colby College (playing the ratings game well)
10) Davidson College
10) Harvey Mudd College

13) Grinnell College
13) Wash & Lee University

15) Hamilton College
15) Haverford College
15) Colgate University

18) USMA-West Point
18) USNA--Annapolis
18) USAFA--Colorado Springs

21) Barnard College
21) Smith College

23) Wesleyan University
24) Kenyon College
25) Bryn Mawr
26) Univ. of Richmond
27) College of the Holy Cross

28) Franklin & Marshall
29) Macalester College
30) Rhodes College

31) Bates College
31) SOKA
31) Thomas Aquinas
31) Oberlin College

35) Occidental College
36) Lafayette College

37) Centre College
37) Whitman College
37) Mount Holyoke College

40) Bucknell University
41) Gettysburg College
42) Trinity College
43) Gettysburg College
44) Furman University

Scripps?

Yes, Scripps should definitely be there. The ranking below (using totally different criteria from USNWR/WSJ/Forbes) has Scripps at #3 INCLUDING national universities. Not saying that seems right, but it's not nothing.

https://lesshighschoolstress.com/blog/6/

Interesting list which ranks 100 colleges & universities. Topping the list is #1 Pomona, then #2 Northwestern, #3 Scripps, & #4 Wellesley. Georgetown University is tied next to last at #98.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Liberal Arts Colleges (LAC) ranking guess:

I love Williams College, but I think that Williams, Amherst, Swarthmone, Pomona, Wellesley, and Carleton College are deserving of the top ranking.

Claremont McKenna is in an elite class by itself as is Harvey Mudd College.

Bowdoin College has a friendly, close-knit, elite, prep boarding school feel (more like St. Paul's School & Groton, than Andover or Exeter).

My guess:

1) Williams College
2) Amherst College

3) Pomona College
3) Swarthmore College

5) Wellesley College

6) Bowdoin College
6) Carleton College

8) Claremont McKenna College

9) Middlebury College

10) Colby College (playing the ratings game well)
10) Davidson College
10) Harvey Mudd College

13) Grinnell College
13) Wash & Lee University

15) Hamilton College
15) Haverford College
15) Colgate University

18) USMA-West Point
18) USNA--Annapolis
18) USAFA--Colorado Springs

21) Barnard College
21) Smith College

23) Wesleyan University
24) Kenyon College
25) Bryn Mawr
26) Univ. of Richmond
27) College of the Holy Cross

28) Franklin & Marshall
29) Macalester College
30) Rhodes College

31) Bates College
31) SOKA
31) Thomas Aquinas
31) Oberlin College

35) Occidental College
36) Lafayette College

37) Centre College
37) Whitman College
37) Mount Holyoke College

40) Bucknell University
41) Gettysburg College
42) Trinity College
43) Gettysburg College
44) Furman University

Scripps?

Yes, Scripps should definitely be there. The ranking below (using totally different criteria from USNWR/WSJ/Forbes) has Scripps at #3 INCLUDING national universities. Not saying that seems right, but it's not nothing.

https://lesshighschoolstress.com/blog/6/

Interesting list which ranks 100 colleges & universities. Topping the list is #1 Pomona, then #2 Northwestern, #3 Scripps, & #4 Wellesley. Georgetown University is tied next to last at #98.

lmao at a list that has University of Richmond and American above Brown, Duke, Cornell, Princeton, Stanford, Dartmouth, MIT, Harvard.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Liberal Arts Colleges (LAC) ranking guess:

I love Williams College, but I think that Williams, Amherst, Swarthmone, Pomona, Wellesley, and Carleton College are deserving of the top ranking.

Claremont McKenna is in an elite class by itself as is Harvey Mudd College.

Bowdoin College has a friendly, close-knit, elite, prep boarding school feel (more like St. Paul's School & Groton, than Andover or Exeter).

My guess:

1) Williams College
2) Amherst College

3) Pomona College
3) Swarthmore College

5) Wellesley College

6) Bowdoin College
6) Carleton College

8) Claremont McKenna College

9) Middlebury College

10) Colby College (playing the ratings game well)
10) Davidson College
10) Harvey Mudd College

13) Grinnell College
13) Wash & Lee University

15) Hamilton College
15) Haverford College
15) Colgate University

18) USMA-West Point
18) USNA--Annapolis
18) USAFA--Colorado Springs

21) Barnard College
21) Smith College

23) Wesleyan University
24) Kenyon College
25) Bryn Mawr
26) Univ. of Richmond
27) College of the Holy Cross

28) Franklin & Marshall
29) Macalester College
30) Rhodes College

31) Bates College
31) SOKA
31) Thomas Aquinas
31) Oberlin College

35) Occidental College
36) Lafayette College

37) Centre College
37) Whitman College
37) Mount Holyoke College

40) Bucknell University
41) Gettysburg College
42) Trinity College
43) Gettysburg College
44) Furman University

Scripps?

Sorry, I forgot Scripps College. Probably around #30, but because of the consortium, it could easily be one's absolute top choice school. Scripps is a special place--just like CMC. The difficulty with LACs is that fit is much more important than with respect to National Universities. So many great colleges & universities in the US. Please accept my apology for my oversight.

Oh, no no. No apologies necessary. I loved your list.

[Anonymous]

Not much change other than Columbia is out of the top 10

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=University+of+Southern+California&with=Georgetown+University

USC: 56 vs GT 44

https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=University+of+Southern+California&with=Emory+University

USC: 72 vs Emory 28

https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=University+of+Southern+California&with=New+York+University

USC: 83 vs NYU 17

Welcome to the 21st century!

PP for the mic drop

Except for Parchment data is notoriously self-selecting and unreliable.

Better than something out of your ass lol

Peer reputation scores did not come out of my ass, but from college dean's and presidents they seem to agree that USC is overrated. NYU has Stern and Georgetown has SFS.

USC has School of Cinematic Arts which is #1 in the US if not in the world. Its Engineering is better than NYU. USC Marshais also highly ranked.

I'll take a bet.
USC will be higer than NYU for 2023 by USN&WR
Let me know how much you are willing to bet.

Wow! Number 1 in the world? How many universities actually have a college of cinematic arts? Not impressed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:USC ia a T20 by Forbes

https://www.forbes.com/top-colleges/

Ohio State #105? That seems reasonable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Liberal Arts Colleges (LAC) ranking guess:

I love Williams College, but I think that Williams, Amherst, Swarthmone, Pomona, Wellesley, and Carleton College are deserving of the top ranking.

Claremont McKenna is in an elite class by itself as is Harvey Mudd College.

Bowdoin College has a friendly, close-knit, elite, prep boarding school feel (more like St. Paul's School & Groton, than Andover or Exeter).

My guess:

1) Williams College
2) Amherst College

3) Pomona College
3) Swarthmore College

5) Wellesley College

6) Bowdoin College
6) Carleton College

8) Claremont McKenna College

9) Middlebury College

10) Colby College (playing the ratings game well)
10) Davidson College
10) Harvey Mudd College

13) Grinnell College
13) Wash & Lee University

15) Hamilton College
15) Haverford College
15) Colgate University

18) USMA-West Point
18) USNA--Annapolis
18) USAFA--Colorado Springs

21) Barnard College
21) Smith College

23) Wesleyan University
24) Kenyon College
25) Bryn Mawr
26) Univ. of Richmond
27) College of the Holy Cross

28) Franklin & Marshall
29) Macalester College
30) Rhodes College

31) Bates College
31) SOKA
31) Thomas Aquinas
31) Oberlin College

35) Occidental College
36) Lafayette College

37) Centre College
37) Whitman College
37) Mount Holyoke College

40) Bucknell University
41) Gettysburg College
42) Trinity College
43) Gettysburg College
44) Furman University

Scripps?

Yes, Scripps should definitely be there. The ranking below (using totally different criteria from USNWR/WSJ/Forbes) has Scripps at #3 INCLUDING national universities. Not saying that seems right, but it's not nothing.

https://lesshighschoolstress.com/blog/6/

Interesting list which ranks 100 colleges & universities. Topping the list is #1 Pomona, then #2 Northwestern, #3 Scripps, & #4 Wellesley. Georgetown University is tied next to last at #98.

lmao at a list that has University of Richmond and American above Brown, Duke, Cornell, Princeton, Stanford, Dartmouth, MIT, Harvard.

Yeah, I don't think any of those elite universities are gonna lose any sleep. But you gotta admit it is interesting that it's possible to develop such a list from data in common data sets and princeton review ratings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Columbia may fall out of the top 10.

Columbia was removed from the 2022 ranking (tied at #2) due to recent disclosures of improper data submission to US News. Columbia University is one of a handful of elite schools that does not submit a CDS.

For the top 5, go with the 5 largest endowments (Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Princeton, MIT).

Then Penn, Chicago, Northwestern, Caltech, & Duke in some order.

Johns Hopkins and Columbia tied at #11.

Next grouping: Dartmouth, Brown, Vanderbilt, Cornell, & WashUStL.

Next 5: Rice, Notre Dame, UCLA, & Cal-Berkeley.

USC may move up from its current #27 position.

UCLA, Berkeley, USC, and Cornell will fall. Emory, Georgetown, Umich, UVA will rise.

as

Uva booster has arrived.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Columbia may fall out of the top 10.

Columbia was removed from the 2022 ranking (tied at #2) due to recent disclosures of improper data submission to US News. Columbia University is one of a handful of elite schools that does not submit a CDS.

For the top 5, go with the 5 largest endowments (Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Princeton, MIT).

Then Penn, Chicago, Northwestern, Caltech, & Duke in some order.

Johns Hopkins and Columbia tied at #11.

Next grouping: Dartmouth, Brown, Vanderbilt, Cornell, & WashUStL.

Next 5: Rice, Notre Dame, UCLA, & Cal-Berkeley.

USC may move up from its current #27 position.

UCLA, Berkeley, USC, and Cornell will fall. Emory, Georgetown, Umich, UVA will rise.

Georgetown has been around #23/24 for as long as I can remember … I feel like that’s where it was when I went there in 2005, and any time I’ve checked since then, it’s been in the same place. So I’d be surprised if it moves much.

It was 20 a few years ago, it'll likely pass Berkeley this year.

Berkeley will rise. Berkeley’s admission rate fell to around 11% this year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Columbia may fall out of the top 10.

Columbia was removed from the 2022 ranking (tied at #2) due to recent disclosures of improper data submission to US News. Columbia University is one of a handful of elite schools that does not submit a CDS.

For the top 5, go with the 5 largest endowments (Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Princeton, MIT).

Then Penn, Chicago, Northwestern, Caltech, & Duke in some order.

Johns Hopkins and Columbia tied at #11.

Next grouping: Dartmouth, Brown, Vanderbilt, Cornell, & WashUStL.

Next 5: Rice, Notre Dame, UCLA, & Cal-Berkeley.

USC may move up from its current #27 position.

UCLA, Berkeley, USC, and Cornell will fall. Emory, Georgetown, Umich, UVA will rise.

Georgetown has been around #23/24 for as long as I can remember … I feel like that’s where it was when I went there in 2005, and any time I’ve checked since then, it’s been in the same place. So I’d be surprised if it moves much.

It was 20 a few years ago, it'll likely pass Berkeley this year.

Berkeley will rise. Berkeley’s admission rate fell to around 11% this year.

Another poster with no clue about how rankings are made. Admission rate is not in the mix.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Columbia may fall out of the top 10.

Columbia was removed from the 2022 ranking (tied at #2) due to recent disclosures of improper data submission to US News. Columbia University is one of a handful of elite schools that does not submit a CDS.

For the top 5, go with the 5 largest endowments (Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Princeton, MIT).

Then Penn, Chicago, Northwestern, Caltech, & Duke in some order.

Johns Hopkins and Columbia tied at #11.

Next grouping: Dartmouth, Brown, Vanderbilt, Cornell, & WashUStL.

Next 5: Rice, Notre Dame, UCLA, & Cal-Berkeley.

USC may move up from its current #27 position.

UCLA, Berkeley, USC, and Cornell will fall. Emory, Georgetown, Umich, UVA will rise.

as

Uva booster has arrived.

Not at all just going on endowment percentage increases.