You can die from Monkeypox

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Anonymous wrote:The world works in mysterious ways. Covid took out our elderly population. Monkeypox is taking out the gays. Roe v Wade is taking away womens rights. All that is left, is our children.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-07-29/as-monkeypox-spreads-kids-can-get-monkeypox-too
Not so fast!

Yeah, seriously, the threat to children is the biggest issue with MPX.

Most concerning things in this article, to me:

Rosamund Lewis, the WHO’s technical lead on monkeypox, said that so far most of the children with monkeypox globally have shared a home with other infected people, such as parents or guardians. But a few appear to have no epidemiological links, indicating infection from elsewhere in the community.

Another concern is that monkeypox can be transmitted through the placenta during pregnancy and has been known to cause complications for a baby, including stillbirth. Brooks, from the CDC, said the pregnant US woman with the virus doesn’t appear to have passed it to her child. The infant was given antibodies prophylactically and is doing fine, he said.

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Anonymous wrote:All of this begs the question. If you can die from it and smallpox vaccine is effective against it, why are they not restarting production and vaccination? I am enough to have been vaccinated against smallpox but my kids aren’t and I’d get them vaccinated in a heartbeat. Certainly better than doing insane quarantine carousel again.

How old are you to where you are old enough to have had the smallpox vaccine AND have kids under 18? Didn’t they stop vaccinating for smallpox in like 1970?

I am not from the US but one of the former Soviet republics where they vaccinated into the late 1970s. I have the scar on my arm and everything. But also, some parents at my kids’ school are significantly older than I am. Someone born in 1972 would be 50 today - why can’t they have a 16 year old?

Same here. Born in 1977 in Russia, had a smallpox vaccine as a baby. Scar on arm to prove it. Same goes for my Ukrainian husband. Our youngest is 12

Also, yes, they did stop vaccinating in 1970 or thereabouts. My sister (1968) has a the smallpox vaccine scar. I (1970) do not.

However, that leaves LOTS of folks who have the vaccine and have kids who are minors. My neighbor (1968) and her husband (1962) have a 16 year old. Another neighbor (1966 & 1962) have a 15 year old. An ex-neighbor (1960 & I don't know how old her husband is) have two 16 year olds.

I could go on, but anybody 52 who have been vacccinated could still have minor children. And don't forget about the men! Trump ... doesn't he have a 16 year old?

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I don’t even want to leave the house now.

Keep in mind that Dewald was forced to take down a recent tweet where she recommended pouring bleach over your waste before flushing. Of course, hundreds of more intelligent people responded that this would create a toxic gas and a terrible idea. She has a degree in chemistry, but it's not clear if it was from a clown college. I suspect it was.

I doubt the toxic gas would be a problem. Sewers are already full of toxic gases. The additional bleach would kill the beneficial bacteria in the sewage treatment plants.

The problem is that bleach reacts with chemicals in many commercial toilet and bathroom cleaners to emit toxic chloromine fumes.

Seems a bit unlikely. Most commercial cleaners I have seen are acid based or contain bleach. You shouldn't mix bleach with ammonia. However, ammonia cleaning agents seem uncommon anymore. I gather it's the odor.

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Anonymous wrote:All of this begs the question. If you can die from it and smallpox vaccine is effective against it, why are they not restarting production and vaccination? I am enough to have been vaccinated against smallpox but my kids aren’t and I’d get them vaccinated in a heartbeat. Certainly better than doing insane quarantine carousel again.

How old are you to where you are old enough to have had the smallpox vaccine AND have kids under 18? Didn’t they stop vaccinating for smallpox in like 1970?

I am not from the US but one of the former Soviet republics where they vaccinated into the late 1970s. I have the scar on my arm and everything. But also, some parents at my kids’ school are significantly older than I am. Someone born in 1972 would be 50 today - why can’t they have a 16 year old?

Same here. Born in 1977 in Russia, had a smallpox vaccine as a baby. Scar on arm to prove it. Same goes for my Ukrainian husband. Our youngest is 12

Also, yes, they did stop vaccinating in 1970 or thereabouts. My sister (1968) has a the smallpox vaccine scar. I (1970) do not.

However, that leaves LOTS of folks who have the vaccine and have kids who are minors. My neighbor (1968) and her husband (1962) have a 16 year old. Another neighbor (1966 & 1962) have a 15 year old. An ex-neighbor (1960 & I don't know how old her husband is) have two 16 year olds.

I could go on, but anybody 52 who have been vacccinated could still have minor children. And don't forget about the men! Trump ... doesn't he have a 16 year old?

You are just barely young enough to have not received it. The routine US vaccination happened starting around age 1-2 and the vaccine program was phased out in 1971 and 1972.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I don’t even want to leave the house now.

Keep in mind that Dewald was forced to take down a recent tweet where she recommended pouring bleach over your waste before flushing. Of course, hundreds of more intelligent people responded that this would create a toxic gas and a terrible idea. She has a degree in chemistry, but it's not clear if it was from a clown college. I suspect it was.

I doubt the toxic gas would be a problem. Sewers are already full of toxic gases. The additional bleach would kill the beneficial bacteria in the sewage treatment plants.

The problem is that bleach reacts with chemicals in many commercial toilet and bathroom cleaners to emit toxic chloromine fumes.

Seems a bit unlikely. Most commercial cleaners I have seen are acid based or contain bleach. You shouldn't mix bleach with ammonia. However, ammonia cleaning agents seem uncommon anymore. I gather it's the odor.

Actually, you also should not mix bleach and acid because that also gives off a toxic gas. So that is a problem right there.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I don’t even want to leave the house now.

LOL If rats get it, I still won't care. I'll still have zero skin-to-skin contact with any rats.

There was an outbreak of Monkeypox in 2003 in six midwestern states, where all the cases stemmed fron contact with pet prairie dogs. The prairie dogs had contacts with rats. So, just because you don't have contact with rats, doesn't mean you won't have contact with something else that has contact with rats.

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Anonymous wrote:Is monkeypox fatal?

The less severe West African clade is causing the current world outbreak (2022). No one has died from this outbreak to date. But, monkeypox can lead to other problems (complications) like pneumonia and infections in your brain (encephalitis) or eyes, which can be fatal.

How do you prevent monkeypox virus?

A smallpox vaccine provides protection against monkeypox, but its use is currently limited to clinical trials. Prevention depends on decreasing human contact with infected animals and limiting person-to-person spread.

https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/22371-monkeypox

Ugggghhhh. This is going to be a disaster, isn't it?

Yes. The CDC should have done more back in May when it started spreading worldwide.

And the FDA should have sped up inspection of a manufacturing plant awaiting certification before they could ship doses to the U.S.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/u-s-to-deploy-800000-additional-monkeypox-vaccine-doses

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All of this begs the question. If you can die from it and smallpox vaccine is effective against it, why are they not restarting production and vaccination? I am enough to have been vaccinated against smallpox but my kids aren’t and I’d get them vaccinated in a heartbeat. Certainly better than doing insane quarantine carousel again.

How old are you to where you are old enough to have had the smallpox vaccine AND have kids under 18? Didn’t they stop vaccinating for smallpox in like 1970?

I am not from the US but one of the former Soviet republics where they vaccinated into the late 1970s. I have the scar on my arm and everything. But also, some parents at my kids’ school are significantly older than I am. Someone born in 1972 would be 50 today - why can’t they have a 16 year old?

Same here. Born in 1977 in Russia, had a smallpox vaccine as a baby. Scar on arm to prove it. Same goes for my Ukrainian husband. Our youngest is 12

Also, yes, they did stop vaccinating in 1970 or thereabouts. My sister (1968) has a the smallpox vaccine scar. I (1970) do not.

However, that leaves LOTS of folks who have the vaccine and have kids who are minors. My neighbor (1968) and her husband (1962) have a 16 year old. Another neighbor (1966 & 1962) have a 15 year old. An ex-neighbor (1960 & I don't know how old her husband is) have two 16 year olds.

I could go on, but anybody 52 who have been vacccinated could still have minor children. And don't forget about the men! Trump ... doesn't he have a 16 year old?

Well, hopefully that vaccine is still effective against MPX; at least the older population would be spared.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Some useful info on monkeypox: http://thispodcastwillkillyou.com/2022/07/12/ep-100-monkeypox-here-we-go-again/

I love this show.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I don’t even want to leave the house now.

LOL If rats get it, I still won't care. I'll still have zero skin-to-skin contact with any rats.

There was an outbreak of Monkeypox in 2003 in six midwestern states, where all the cases stemmed fron contact with pet prairie dogs. The prairie dogs had contacts with rats. So, just because you don't have contact with rats, doesn't mean you won't have contact with something else that has contact with rats.

I am 100% certain I will not be in contact with anyone or anything that is in contact with rats. How many people do you think have pet prairie dogs? You're really reaching if you think that's supposed to be scary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The world works in mysterious ways. Covid took out our elderly population. Monkeypox is taking out the gays. Roe v Wade is taking away womens rights. All that is left, is our children.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-07-29/as-monkeypox-spreads-kids-can-get-monkeypox-too
Not so fast!

Yeah, seriously, the threat to children is the biggest issue with MPX.

Most concerning things in this article, to me:

Rosamund Lewis, the WHO’s technical lead on monkeypox, said that so far most of the children with monkeypox globally have shared a home with other infected people, such as parents or guardians. But a few appear to have no epidemiological links, indicating infection from elsewhere in the community.

Another concern is that monkeypox can be transmitted through the placenta during pregnancy and has been known to cause complications for a baby, including stillbirth. Brooks, from the CDC, said the pregnant US woman with the virus doesn’t appear to have passed it to her child. The infant was given antibodies prophylactically and is doing fine, he said.

I'm not trying to stir up fear and I am not concerned AT ALL about mokeypox, but I saw on the news that when they took samples from surfaces in hospitals in areas where people with monkeypox were staying, every single surface had the monkeypox virus.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I don’t even want to leave the house now.

LOL If rats get it, I still won't care. I'll still have zero skin-to-skin contact with any rats.

There was an outbreak of Monkeypox in 2003 in six midwestern states, where all the cases stemmed fron contact with pet prairie dogs. The prairie dogs had contacts with rats. So, just because you don't have contact with rats, doesn't mean you won't have contact with something else that has contact with rats.

I am 100% certain I will not be in contact with anyone or anything that is in contact with rats. How many people do you think have pet prairie dogs? You're really reaching if you think that's supposed to be scary.

I never said it's supposed to be scary. Do you think this forum is supposed to be your own personal house of horros? It's an example of transmission from rats through a 3rd party. And, since they're so ubiquitous, I am 100% certain you will be in contact with something that was in contact with rats. I'm not saying that to scare you, I'm just trying to bring a dose of reality.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I don’t even want to leave the house now.

LOL If rats get it, I still won't care. I'll still have zero skin-to-skin contact with any rats.

There was an outbreak of Monkeypox in 2003 in six midwestern states, where all the cases stemmed fron contact with pet prairie dogs. The prairie dogs had contacts with rats. So, just because you don't have contact with rats, doesn't mean you won't have contact with something else that has contact with rats.

I am 100% certain I will not be in contact with anyone or anything that is in contact with rats. How many people do you think have pet prairie dogs? You're really reaching if you think that's supposed to be scary.

What? Really? Cause my dog got out yesterday. She ran around the gully near our house where the foxes live. I don't know that there are rats back there, but it's probably a safe bet. So... if you came to my house today you would be in contact with something that potentially had contact with rats.
Or maybe you have a neighbor with an indoor/outdoor cat?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I don’t even want to leave the house now.

LOL If rats get it, I still won't care. I'll still have zero skin-to-skin contact with any rats.

There was an outbreak of Monkeypox in 2003 in six midwestern states, where all the cases stemmed fron contact with pet prairie dogs. The prairie dogs had contacts with rats. So, just because you don't have contact with rats, doesn't mean you won't have contact with something else that has contact with rats.

I am 100% certain I will not be in contact with anyone or anything that is in contact with rats. How many people do you think have pet prairie dogs? You're really reaching if you think that's supposed to be scary.

I never said it's supposed to be scary. Do you think this forum is supposed to be your own personal house of horros? It's an example of transmission from rats through a 3rd party. And, since they're so ubiquitous, I am 100% certain you will be in contact with something that was in contact with rats. I'm not saying that to scare you, I'm just trying to bring a dose of reality.

All the surfaces of the new york city subway system come to mind...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I don’t even want to leave the house now.

LOL If rats get it, I still won't care. I'll still have zero skin-to-skin contact with any rats.

There was an outbreak of Monkeypox in 2003 in six midwestern states, where all the cases stemmed fron contact with pet prairie dogs. The prairie dogs had contacts with rats. So, just because you don't have contact with rats, doesn't mean you won't have contact with something else that has contact with rats.

I am 100% certain I will not be in contact with anyone or anything that is in contact with rats. How many people do you think have pet prairie dogs? You're really reaching if you think that's supposed to be scary.

AYFKM? Rats are everywhere in DC and NYC.