You can die from Monkeypox

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Anonymous wrote:All of this begs the question. If you can die from it and smallpox vaccine is effective against it, why are they not restarting production and vaccination? I am enough to have been vaccinated against smallpox but my kids aren’t and I’d get them vaccinated in a heartbeat. Certainly better than doing insane quarantine carousel again.

We don’t have enough vaccinate everyone - definitely not before the end of the year, by which time monkeypox could become
endemic.

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Anonymous wrote:All of this begs the question. If you can die from it and smallpox vaccine is effective against it, why are they not restarting production and vaccination? I am enough to have been vaccinated against smallpox but my kids aren’t and I’d get them vaccinated in a heartbeat. Certainly better than doing insane quarantine carousel again.

How old are you to where you are old enough to have had the smallpox vaccine AND have kids under 18? Didn’t they stop vaccinating for smallpox in like 1970?

DP. I am 55, got smallpox vaccine as a child in the DMV area, and had my last kid at 38, who still hasn’t turned 18 yet.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would we reintroduce the smallpox vaccine when there’s a perfectly adequate monkeypox specific vaccine. It’scurrently available to people who are at high risk of exposure and they will presumably begin ramping up production to make it more generally accessible soon.

Correct. There is the traditional smallpox vaccine which is harder to administer and has more risk of serious complications. It was developed and approved only for smallpox.

Then there is the Jynneos vaccine which is specifically approved as a monkeypox and smallpox vaccine. Less complications as well and easier to administer. It was introduced a few years ago (2019). However it is only made by one small company in Europe and was previously basically a niche item . They’ve opened new production facilities but it’s going to take time to ramp up.

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I have a family member who works at mass gen and they said the hospital is on high alert with monkeypox, and that the CDC is very very far behind

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Georgia woman with Monkeypox https://www.instagram.com/p/CglFxe8j_XZ/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

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Anonymous wrote:There is no accurate way to know the mortality rate since it hasn't been around widely in countries with good health care. This is probably as dangerous as chicken pox -- people with no access to health care and antibiotics pick at the scabs, they get infected and are left untreated. Nothing to be concerned about here, where we have access to health care and antibiotics.

Anyone else hear Spring 2020 in this comment?

Exactly. Amazing how we’ve managed to learn nothing from the past 2 1/2 years.

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Anonymous wrote:That study analyzes cases 30-50 years old. This is a different strain, and medicine has advanced a bit.

The person who died in Brazil had cancer and was HIV+. Undoubtedly, there will some other hook factor like this with the two young Spaniards who died.

You're basically telling us that the 31 year old and the 40 (41?2?) year old Spaniards died of encephalitis with monkeypox, not of encephalitis from monkeypox? And our children will be just fine because our healthcare is better than Spain's?

I am only judging by DCUM thread titles, but -- there is encephalitis going around in the gay community, and now monkey pox. So they seem to be independent and someone got both.

So when do we start locking down children in masks, 20 day quarantines and school closure so it feels like we doing something?. Anything? Because we certainly cannot request the actual affected groups to do the same.

Children are already being diagnosed with monkeypox and if you think this won’t be a huge problem in the fall, you’re dreaming.

We’re not falling for your histrionics again

Neat. We’re not falling for your ignorant head-in-the-sand denialist behavior again.

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Anonymous wrote:Isn't the mortality rate believed to be around 1%? That's pretty high!

The most recent study saw a mortality for this clade of a little over 3%. However, it is higher in children and immunocompromised persons.

NYT Spelling Bee enthusiasts, take note.

Much appreciated! 😁

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Anonymous wrote:All of this begs the question. If you can die from it and smallpox vaccine is effective against it, why are they not restarting production and vaccination? I am enough to have been vaccinated against smallpox but my kids aren’t and I’d get them vaccinated in a heartbeat. Certainly better than doing insane quarantine carousel again.

How old are you to where you are old enough to have had the smallpox vaccine AND have kids under 18? Didn’t they stop vaccinating for smallpox in like 1970?

I am not from the US but one of the former Soviet republics where they vaccinated into the late 1970s. I have the scar on my arm and everything. But also, some parents at my kids’ school are significantly older than I am. Someone born in 1972 would be 50 today - why can’t they have a 16 year old?

Same here. Born in 1977 in Russia, had a smallpox vaccine as a baby. Scar on arm to prove it. Same goes for my Ukrainian husband. Our youngest is 12

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Anonymous wrote:That study analyzes cases 30-50 years old. This is a different strain, and medicine has advanced a bit.

The person who died in Brazil had cancer and was HIV+. Undoubtedly, there will some other hook factor like this with the two young Spaniards who died.

You're basically telling us that the 31 year old and the 40 (41?2?) year old Spaniards died of encephalitis with monkeypox, not of encephalitis from monkeypox? And our children will be just fine because our healthcare is better than Spain's?

I am only judging by DCUM thread titles, but -- there is encephalitis going around in the gay community, and now monkey pox. So they seem to be independent and someone got both.

So when do we start locking down children in masks, 20 day quarantines and school closure so it feels like we doing something?. Anything? Because we certainly cannot request the actual affected groups to do the same.

Children are already being diagnosed with monkeypox and if you think this won’t be a huge problem in the fall, you’re dreaming.

We’re not falling for your histrionics again

Neat. We’re not falling for your ignorant head-in-the-sand denialist behavior again.

So you will hide in your house for another 3 years?

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Anonymous wrote:That study analyzes cases 30-50 years old. This is a different strain, and medicine has advanced a bit.

The person who died in Brazil had cancer and was HIV+. Undoubtedly, there will some other hook factor like this with the two young Spaniards who died.

You're basically telling us that the 31 year old and the 40 (41?2?) year old Spaniards died of encephalitis with monkeypox, not of encephalitis from monkeypox? And our children will be just fine because our healthcare is better than Spain's?

I am only judging by DCUM thread titles, but -- there is encephalitis going around in the gay community, and now monkey pox. So they seem to be independent and someone got both.

So when do we start locking down children in masks, 20 day quarantines and school closure so it feels like we doing something?. Anything? Because we certainly cannot request the actual affected groups to do the same.

Children are already being diagnosed with monkeypox and if you think this won’t be a huge problem in the fall, you’re dreaming.

We’re not falling for your histrionics again

Neat. We’re not falling for your ignorant head-in-the-sand denialist behavior again.

So you will hide in your house for another 3 years?

Both of you -- just be mature, intelligent adults and wait for a minimal amount of information so we can figure out what to do. So far doesn't sound like that big of a deal. Let's wait and see if people actually die from it, or get horrible scars. I'm prepared to deal with it if turns out to be serious but so far -- doesn't seem that bad.

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Honestly, I don’t even want to leave the house now.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I don’t even want to leave the house now.

Keep in mind that Dewald was forced to take down a recent tweet where she recommended pouring bleach over your waste before flushing. Of course, hundreds of more intelligent people responded that this would create a toxic gas and a terrible idea. She has a degree in chemistry, but it's not clear if it was from a clown college. I suspect it was.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I don’t even want to leave the house now.

Keep in mind that Dewald was forced to take down a recent tweet where she recommended pouring bleach over your waste before flushing. Of course, hundreds of more intelligent people responded that this would create a toxic gas and a terrible idea. She has a degree in chemistry, but it's not clear if it was from a clown college. I suspect it was.

I doubt the toxic gas would be a problem. Sewers are already full of toxic gases. The additional bleach would kill the beneficial bacteria in the sewage treatment plants.

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On the positive side:

Reading how it is transmitted, transmissibility seems preventable. While it can apparently be transmitted through respiratory droplets, current belief is that this is through prolonged close contact

No deaths caused directly by current strain, according to Cleveland Clinic site.

Would not be starting from the ground up on a vaccine

Many cases are mild