Northeastern - freshman year in CA?

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Anonymous wrote:Y’all can crap on Northeastern if you want to but they have some incredibly well-run graduate programs that partner with local businesses and provide hands-on education while getting a Masters degree in some highly specialized fields.

Don’t know anything about their undergrad programs though so carry on your bash fest. I will add you’d have to be out of your mind to choose Oakland over Boston though.

You don't get to "choose Oakland over Boston". You get told you are Boston regular freshman admit, NUIn (go abroad for first semester) or NUBound (go abroad/oakland for full first year then become transfer student if you have the grades fall sophomore year). Nobody chooses it

That sucks. I wouldn’t be choosing Northeastern then.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm one of the Northeastern critics - I think they have gamed the system in an outrageous way, and it's sad to see kids (and the parents who foot the bill) paying for the hype. That said, I also think one of the problems of our current higher educations system is the massive increase in demand for competitive programs hasn't been met with much increase in supply. Maybe this kind of innovation is part of the solution?

Not really. There is no reason to go to NEU. A state university in most states provide a better education. More economical also. The state schools at the NEU tier just don't spend on marketing or other gimmicks like NEU. There is no shortage of schools and seats at the NEU tier of schools. In fact there is a surplus. For instance the state flagship in Amherst is much better than NEU in terns of an education. I know from working at UMass admissions office a few years ago that students usually picked UMass over NEU. There is no reason except a certain gullibility to fall for the NEU gimmicks that has accelerated in the last three years or so.

Just stop. First of all, there is no “NEU.” It’s Northeastern, or sometimes (rarely) NU. You are exposing your ignorance, and you have no idea what you are talking about. My kid is there and has had an outstanding experience, equal to or superior to their three siblings who have attended great schools as well. The coop program is amazing - my kid has worked some amazing jobs in their field and already has a job offer for when they graduate next spring. Go crap somewhere else.

What are you rambling about? It’s always been Northeastern or NEU, never NU. Put down the brownies.

Find me a single reference to NEU and I’ll stop “rambling.” You’re wrong.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northeastern_University

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Anonymous wrote:I'm one of the Northeastern critics - I think they have gamed the system in an outrageous way, and it's sad to see kids (and the parents who foot the bill) paying for the hype. That said, I also think one of the problems of our current higher educations system is the massive increase in demand for competitive programs hasn't been met with much increase in supply. Maybe this kind of innovation is part of the solution?

Not really. There is no reason to go to NEU. A state university in most states provide a better education. More economical also. The state schools at the NEU tier just don't spend on marketing or other gimmicks like NEU. There is no shortage of schools and seats at the NEU tier of schools. In fact there is a surplus. For instance the state flagship in Amherst is much better than NEU in terns of an education. I know from working at UMass admissions office a few years ago that students usually picked UMass over NEU. There is no reason except a certain gullibility to fall for the NEU gimmicks that has accelerated in the last three years or so.

Just stop. First of all, there is no “NEU.” It’s Northeastern, or sometimes (rarely) NU. You are exposing your ignorance, and you have no idea what you are talking about. My kid is there and has had an outstanding experience, equal to or superior to their three siblings who have attended great schools as well. The coop program is amazing - my kid has worked some amazing jobs in their field and already has a job offer for when they graduate next spring. Go crap somewhere else.

What are you rambling about? It’s always been Northeastern or NEU, never NU. Put down the brownies.

Find me a single reference to NEU and I’ll stop “rambling.” You’re wrong.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northeastern_University

This can be easily fixed.

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Wikipedia? You’ve got to be kidding.

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NEU.edu literally redirects to the Northeastern website. Just stop.

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Anonymous wrote:Wikipedia? You’ve got to be kidding.

https://english.neu.edu.cn/mainm.htm

https://my.neu.edu/

https://subjectguides.lib.neu.edu/

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Stop deadnaming Northeastern. They changed their pronouns a couple of decades ago, so let’s move on already. It’s Northeastern, that’s it.

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Anonymous wrote:We know someone who was admitted to Northeastern but is spending freshman year at their CA campus. Can anyone tell me more about this? Is it an option or is it mandatory for some students?

My DD will be attending the Boston campus I'm the Fall in the regular program. As PP explained, it's the NUBound program. You don't have a choice which program you get accepted to, Regular NU, NUin, or NUBound. In the end, you finish with the same degree. However, something that parents are finding out is that with NUin and NUBound it's a "pre-matriculation" program. Therefore federal aid can not be used during that year/semester. Also, student loans seem to be harder to get.

This lack of transparency should be criminal. Or at least, you know, make explicitly clear during application process and again in the acceptance letter.

Agree! And this isn't the only school that does this: NYU, W&M, etc. etc.

Also, Colby and Middlebury.

The (big) difference is that most of these schools don't make you go to one of their locations in the fall. You are simply admitted to start in the spring and can do whatever you want for Fall semester.

Well for NEU their marketing machine is all about bringing in the $$ for NEU. In reality it's a brilliant marketing campaign, which apparently many do go for. My own kid said before applying that they didn't want any part of the late start thru anywhere, and happily turned it down when offered.

It's because they want to lock in tuition dollars.

Yes, that's why I do give them credit for their brilliant marketing. I personally don't think they are worth all the hype---my own kid had already decided it wasn't the school for them even before getting NUBound/NUin before they got that acceptance and likely would have turned down even a regular fall start if they'd gotten it.
Everything at NEU appears to be all about the $$$. Housing is overcrowded yet they won't allow sophomores out of their on campus housing contracts---Instead they make forced doubles and triples---the forced doubles are in singles that weren't that big and there is only 1 closet for the 2 kids to share and beds must be bunked or lofted. The Forced triples are similar with some having only 60-65sq ft per person. If it wasn't about the money, they would release students from the contracts like so many wanted.

They are a well oiled machine, with the most impressive tours. Summer 2021 they were running tours every 30 mins, where most universities had them only 2-5 per day. It's a nice big glossy impressive machine that makes kids want to apply---I mean it's in the heart of Boston, so much more attractive than say RPI/WPI for STEM students. This drives up applications (hello no extra essay!) and thus drives down acceptance rates. With so many applications, I'm guessing there is no way all of the EA/RD apps were actually reviewed properly, so it was a matter of luck or perhaps getting your application in early to get it reviewed (no clue what happened, but I know they couldn't have read 90K applications)

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Anonymous wrote:Y’all can crap on Northeastern if you want to but they have some incredibly well-run graduate programs that partner with local businesses and provide hands-on education while getting a Masters degree in some highly specialized fields.

Don’t know anything about their undergrad programs though so carry on your bash fest. I will add you’d have to be out of your mind to choose Oakland over Boston though.

You don't get to "choose Oakland over Boston". You get told you are Boston regular freshman admit, NUIn (go abroad for first semester) or NUBound (go abroad/oakland for full first year then become transfer student if you have the grades fall sophomore year). Nobody chooses it

That sucks. I wouldn’t be choosing Northeastern then.

And majority offered NUIn/NUbound don't choose it (especially NUBOund which is still being developed, no plans were in place until mid march and even then it kept changing daily, so not well established or thought out plan, just a money grab) I've heard they offered 8-9K NUBound and will likely only get less than 1K. No clue yet where they will put those extra 1K next fall

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Stop with the “brilliant marketing”. Many colleges have been doing this for many years.

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Anonymous wrote:Stop with the “brilliant marketing”. Many colleges have been doing this for many years.

I'm not the NEU booster---I actually think it's an overhyped university. Good school, but not nearly as good as they hype has made it in the last 5-8 years. So yes, it is the "Brilliant marketing" that is getting it there. They have convinced 90K kids that NEU should be on their college list and the fact there are no supplemental essays is a huge part of this. And they sell the NUIn/NUBound program really well, as is evidenced by people on the Parents FB pages who can see that the program isn't really the best for their kid and see the obvious flaws, yet are trying to hard to justify paying $75K+ food and other expenses for the opportunity, despite the major flaws for their kids (ie. not having any valuable courses to take for most of the year). THat's the definition of good marketing.

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Anonymous wrote:Stop with the “brilliant marketing”. Many colleges have been doing this for many years.

I'm not the NEU booster---I actually think it's an overhyped university. Good school, but not nearly as good as they hype has made it in the last 5-8 years. So yes, it is the "Brilliant marketing" that is getting it there. They have convinced 90K kids that NEU should be on their college list and the fact there are no supplemental essays is a huge part of this. And they sell the NUIn/NUBound program really well, as is evidenced by people on the Parents FB pages who can see that the program isn't really the best for their kid and see the obvious flaws, yet are trying to hard to justify paying $75K+ food and other expenses for the opportunity, despite the major flaws for their kids (ie. not having any valuable courses to take for most of the year). THat's the definition of good marketing.

Agree to disagree. It’s the common app, no supplement essays. Just one click.
(I have a niece who graduated from this program and a DS who took advantage of a similar program elsewhere)

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Anonymous wrote:Stop with the “brilliant marketing”. Many colleges have been doing this for many years.

I'm not the NEU booster---I actually think it's an overhyped university. Good school, but not nearly as good as they hype has made it in the last 5-8 years. So yes, it is the "Brilliant marketing" that is getting it there. They have convinced 90K kids that NEU should be on their college list and the fact there are no supplemental essays is a huge part of this. And they sell the NUIn/NUBound program really well, as is evidenced by people on the Parents FB pages who can see that the program isn't really the best for their kid and see the obvious flaws, yet are trying to hard to justify paying $75K+ food and other expenses for the opportunity, despite the major flaws for their kids (ie. not having any valuable courses to take for most of the year). THat's the definition of good marketing.

Agree to disagree. It’s the common app, no supplement essays. Just one click.
(I have a niece who graduated from this program and a DS who took advantage of a similar program elsewhere)

Most of the schools have a supplemental essay about 'why our school' which isn't really a big thing.
Higher ranked school like Case Western doesn't have supplement essay either, but it's acceptance rate and yield rate is way lower than Northeastern.
Why? because it's a combination of many factors that applicants consider.

If applicants add Northeastern because easy application, then it's yield should be low, however it's exactly the opposite.
It's yield rate is going up which in fact caused over enrollment for the past a couple of years. It means students not jus apply but actually choose to attend.

Then again once they attend, they stay because they are satisfied with the education, service, experience, and bright career placement.
https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/freshmen-least-most-likely-return
Northeastern is below only 5 schools - MIT, UChicago, John's Hopkins, Northwestern, Notre Dame.
It's it's a hype, it can't be this high LOL

NUIn/Bound is an optional offer instead of rejection. A lot of schools have similar programs.
It could be a great option for some students. If you have a better option, simply pass.
Looks like someone got really offended and obsessed by this LOL.

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Anonymous wrote:Stop with the “brilliant marketing”. Many colleges have been doing this for many years.

I'm not the NEU booster---I actually think it's an overhyped university. Good school, but not nearly as good as they hype has made it in the last 5-8 years. So yes, it is the "Brilliant marketing" that is getting it there. They have convinced 90K kids that NEU should be on their college list and the fact there are no supplemental essays is a huge part of this. And they sell the NUIn/NUBound program really well, as is evidenced by people on the Parents FB pages who can see that the program isn't really the best for their kid and see the obvious flaws, yet are trying to hard to justify paying $75K+ food and other expenses for the opportunity, despite the major flaws for their kids (ie. not having any valuable courses to take for most of the year). THat's the definition of good marketing.

Agree to disagree. It’s the common app, no supplement essays. Just one click.
(I have a niece who graduated from this program and a DS who took advantage of a similar program elsewhere)

Most of the schools have a supplemental essay about 'why our school' which isn't really a big thing.
Higher ranked school like Case Western doesn't have supplement essay either, but it's acceptance rate and yield rate is way lower than Northeastern.
Why? because it's a combination of many factors that applicants consider.

If applicants add Northeastern because easy application, then it's yield should be low, however it's exactly the opposite.
It's yield rate is going up which in fact caused over enrollment for the past a couple of years. It means students not jus apply but actually choose to attend.

Then again once they attend, they stay because they are satisfied with the education, service, experience, and bright career placement.
https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/freshmen-least-most-likely-return
Northeastern is below only 5 schools - MIT, UChicago, John's Hopkins, Northwestern, Notre Dame.
It's it's a hype, it can't be this high LOL

NUIn/Bound is an optional offer instead of rejection. A lot of schools have similar programs.
It could be a great option for some students. If you have a better option, simply pass.
Looks like someone got really offended and obsessed by this LOL.

Case's yield is lower because it's in Cleveland and not Boston. Drop Case into Boston and they wouldn't have a yield issue, IMO. Visited both and there is no comparison to the locations. Boston is a college town, and that makes all schools their very attractive. It's also tech hub that many would want to work in after college, cleveland not so much (may have tech, but certainly not a place that as many people want to actual stay in)

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Anonymous wrote:Stop with the “brilliant marketing”. Many colleges have been doing this for many years.

I'm not the NEU booster---I actually think it's an overhyped university. Good school, but not nearly as good as they hype has made it in the last 5-8 years. So yes, it is the "Brilliant marketing" that is getting it there. They have convinced 90K kids that NEU should be on their college list and the fact there are no supplemental essays is a huge part of this. And they sell the NUIn/NUBound program really well, as is evidenced by people on the Parents FB pages who can see that the program isn't really the best for their kid and see the obvious flaws, yet are trying to hard to justify paying $75K+ food and other expenses for the opportunity, despite the major flaws for their kids (ie. not having any valuable courses to take for most of the year). THat's the definition of good marketing.

Agree to disagree. It’s the common app, no supplement essays. Just one click.
(I have a niece who graduated from this program and a DS who took advantage of a similar program elsewhere)

Most of the schools have a supplemental essay about 'why our school' which isn't really a big thing.
Higher ranked school like Case Western doesn't have supplement essay either, but it's acceptance rate and yield rate is way lower than Northeastern.
Why? because it's a combination of many factors that applicants consider.

If applicants add Northeastern because easy application, then it's yield should be low, however it's exactly the opposite.
It's yield rate is going up which in fact caused over enrollment for the past a couple of years. It means students not jus apply but actually choose to attend.

Then again once they attend, they stay because they are satisfied with the education, service, experience, and bright career placement.
https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/freshmen-least-most-likely-return
Northeastern is below only 5 schools - MIT, UChicago, John's Hopkins, Northwestern, Notre Dame.
It's it's a hype, it can't be this high LOL

NUIn/Bound is an optional offer instead of rejection. A lot of schools have similar programs.
It could be a great option for some students. If you have a better option, simply pass.
Looks like someone got really offended and obsessed by this LOL.

Case's yield is lower because it's in Cleveland and not Boston. Drop Case into Boston and they wouldn't have a yield issue, IMO. Visited both and there is no comparison to the locations. Boston is a college town, and that makes all schools their very attractive. It's also tech hub that many would want to work in after college, cleveland not so much (may have tech, but certainly not a place that as many people want to actual stay in)

Location is certainly an important factor.
However there are many mediocre schools in good locations and many selective schools in shitty locations.
So yes as I said it's a combination of many things.
Northeastern took good advantage of the location, and turned it into a very attractive selective school.
NYU is another case. There are many schools in NYC, but not all are as successful as NYU.

Kids these days prefer urban setting schools in general.
One of my kids applied to all urban schools except one, but end up choosing the only non-urban school considering all things.