Privatizing DC roads?!: Chain Bridge Rd and University Terr

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:why aren't there sidewalks there?

The anti sidewalk people say that the cost of putting in sidewalks will be tremendous. DDOT agreed, the price is super high, but wanted to do it. CBR people demurred. You can see that lots of houses have built on the easement where a side walk would go...

I can see that argument for CBR which is a winding mess.

But University Terrace has lots more room and goes to an elementary school, for Pete's sake. What's the excuse there?

[Anonymous]

I think DDOT wants to roll doing the UT sidewalks into redoing the entire street, which it has yet to do and has no plan to do. The ANC keeps listing it to be done, and it keeps not getting done.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/pgwynpruetn3vr3/ANC%203D%20Letter%20Re%20Pineiro%20Letter%20on%20sidewalks.pdf?dl=0

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OOB families need University term to get their kids to Key Public Elementary school. That street is despicable. Not a sidewalk in sight. On any given day, every third property has construction or landscaping going on. Rather than offering sidewalks within two blocks of a public elementary school, they got all these flashy signage screaming about a 20 MPH limit, with angry people walking their dogs in the middle of the road. Note that the properties are enormous and could host 4+ vehicles in their driveway instead of in front of their property, their road-facing landscaping is enormous and could easily host walkways, and the road itself can have, in most places, parked car on both sides AND a lane of traffic in each direction.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would want this investigated for corruption and special interests.

Sounds like Cheh needs to go.

Wasn't she also pushing for bikes having the right to blow through red lights?

Is she for sale?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would want this investigated for corruption and special interests.

Sounds like Cheh needs to go.

Wasn't she also pushing for bikes having the right to blow through red lights?

Is she for sale?

Try to keep up.

[Anonymous]

Does this mean we can all get our streets closed too?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DDOT has determined BUT cannot find the original request or requestor whom people believe to be a multimillionaire plus Cheh. Matt Frumin; don’t you dare!

DDOT knows and DDOT has the information. They just don't want to tell you. Every single request has an address and a contact person connected to it. It is especially important to find out when the request was made because the rules were changed in FY22. Ask better questions and be persistent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am so sick of all of these people saying their streets need to be treated differently because they are "cut through" - no, these are all public spaces and should be accessible by and for the public at all times. It really isn't fair to push traffic on to other streets because you don't like it on yours. Buy a house on a different street out in the country. We live in a city. Tough it out.

There’s something called the FHA functional classification of streets, which DC follows. Narrow residential streets are not the same as an arterial like Wisconsin Avenue and may not be appropriate for thru traffic. The statement that “you live in a city” is absurd. Bethesda and some other parts of Montgomery County are more urban that some DC neighborhoods, and MoCo has very effective traffic calming, including no thru traffic limitations. Don’t be an idiot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OOB families need University term to get their kids to Key Public Elementary school. That street is despicable. Not a sidewalk in sight. On any given day, every third property has construction or landscaping going on. Rather than offering sidewalks within two blocks of a public elementary school, they got all these flashy signage screaming about a 20 MPH limit, with angry people walking their dogs in the middle of the road. Note that the properties are enormous and could host 4+ vehicles in their driveway instead of in front of their property, their road-facing landscaping is enormous and could easily host walkways, and the road itself can have, in most places, parked car on both sides AND a lane of traffic in each direction.

When neighbirhood schools are overcrowded, why is there still OOB enrollment?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OOB families need University term to get their kids to Key Public Elementary school. That street is despicable. Not a sidewalk in sight. On any given day, every third property has construction or landscaping going on. Rather than offering sidewalks within two blocks of a public elementary school, they got all these flashy signage screaming about a 20 MPH limit, with angry people walking their dogs in the middle of the road. Note that the properties are enormous and could host 4+ vehicles in their driveway instead of in front of their property, their road-facing landscaping is enormous and could easily host walkways, and the road itself can have, in most places, parked car on both sides AND a lane of traffic in each direction.

When neighbirhood schools are overcrowded, why is there still OOB enrollment?

Because schools consist of classrooms.

They have to have enough classrooms to hold all of the in-boundary kids. If there are then empty seats in those classrooms, DC law says they have to offer them to any resident of the city.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:why aren't there sidewalks there?

Rich people don't like poor people walking by their house.

At a recent ANC meeting Andrea Mitchell gave an impassioned speech on the evils of sidewalks.

When did this happen? Is there a transcript or recording available so that we common folk can be better educated about the evils of sidewalks?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am so sick of all of these people saying their streets need to be treated differently because they are "cut through" - no, these are all public spaces and should be accessible by and for the public at all times. It really isn't fair to push traffic on to other streets because you don't like it on yours. Buy a house on a different street out in the country. We live in a city. Tough it out.

There’s something called the FHA functional classification of streets, which DC follows. Narrow residential streets are not the same as an arterial like Wisconsin Avenue and may not be appropriate for thru traffic. The statement that “you live in a city” is absurd. Bethesda and some other parts of Montgomery County are more urban that some DC neighborhoods, and MoCo has very effective traffic calming, including no thru traffic limitations. Don’t be an idiot.

Yes, downtown Silver Spring is more "urban" than Palisades. That is irrelevent. That's also not where any of the "traffic calming" takes place. The desire to force all traffic onto "arterials" in order to segregate single family homes from the hoi polloi is bad from both a practical and philosophical perspective. It is sefish and it is a waste of community resources. Nobody is better or more deserving than anybody else. City streets are public goods and it is a profound violation of the public trust and social contract to give special rights to a few. The city was designed as a grid. Every street plays a role. Dont be a selfish hole.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am so sick of all of these people saying their streets need to be treated differently because they are "cut through" - no, these are all public spaces and should be accessible by and for the public at all times. It really isn't fair to push traffic on to other streets because you don't like it on yours. Buy a house on a different street out in the country. We live in a city. Tough it out.

There’s something called the FHA functional classification of streets, which DC follows. Narrow residential streets are not the same as an arterial like Wisconsin Avenue and may not be appropriate for thru traffic. The statement that “you live in a city” is absurd. Bethesda and some other parts of Montgomery County are more urban that some DC neighborhoods, and MoCo has very effective traffic calming, including no thru traffic limitations. Don’t be an idiot.

By your definition I’m an idiot (who lives in a comparably expensive DC house NOT under a flight path). But I’m a democratically inclined idiot who will make it my business to drive up and down these streets as often as I possibly can because what you’re trying to do, while a bandaid to a gash, is deeply troubling and undemocratic. Your best hope was to stay quiet, as your attempt is unenforceable and has given a rise to a Streisand effect. Who’s an idiot now?

[Anonymous]

What about for accessing Battery Kemble? Wonder if they’ll crack down on dogs there now also.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am so sick of all of these people saying their streets need to be treated differently because they are "cut through" - no, these are all public spaces and should be accessible by and for the public at all times. It really isn't fair to push traffic on to other streets because you don't like it on yours. Buy a house on a different street out in the country. We live in a city. Tough it out.

There’s something called the FHA functional classification of streets, which DC follows. Narrow residential streets are not the same as an arterial like Wisconsin Avenue and may not be appropriate for thru traffic. The statement that “you live in a city” is absurd. Bethesda and some other parts of Montgomery County are more urban that some DC neighborhoods, and MoCo has very effective traffic calming, including no thru traffic limitations. Don’t be an idiot.

You want to turn the city into suburbs? Move to the suburbs!

This is blatant and exclusionary behavior to keep out people that you don’t want from your neighborhood.