Privatizing DC roads?!: Chain Bridge Rd and University Terr

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also please the visitors to the Black cemetery, because unless you live within 2 block, you walk. Money talks.

Palisades you are disgusting, unless it’s the plane noise that accounts for the brain damage on this one.

To be fair, visitors to the cemetery would not be through traffic and would be allowed.

Which kind of gets to the ridiculousness of the proposal. How does law enforcement identify through traffic? Even if they do something like put a camera at each end and flag cars who enter and leave within a few minutes, how do they distinguish people who stop at the cemetery, the park or a house along the road to pick up or drop off a person or a package?

I don’t think that’s right? Here’s what Palisades folk on the list serve have to say (in support):

“no thru traffic with local traffic only at issue. To answer your question see below.


Local access street – a street or portion of a street designated for access only to drivers of vehicles whose destination or origin is on or within two (2) blocks of such street or portion of the street.
http://dcrules.elaws.us/dcmr/18-9901 “

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also please the visitors to the Black cemetery, because unless you live within 2 block, you walk. Money talks.

Palisades you are disgusting, unless it’s the plane noise that accounts for the brain damage on this one.

To be fair, visitors to the cemetery would not be through traffic and would be allowed.

Which kind of gets to the ridiculousness of the proposal. How does law enforcement identify through traffic? Even if they do something like put a camera at each end and flag cars who enter and leave within a few minutes, how do they distinguish people who stop at the cemetery, the park or a house along the road to pick up or drop off a person or a package?

I don’t think that’s right? Here’s what Palisades folk on the list serve have to say (in support):

“no thru traffic with local traffic only at issue. To answer your question see below.


Local access street – a street or portion of a street designated for access only to drivers of vehicles whose destination or origin is on or within two (2) blocks of such street or portion of the street.
http://dcrules.elaws.us/dcmr/18-9901 “

The cemetery is the "destination."

[Anonymous]

“Commissioner XYZ writes, with regards to "No Through Traffic" signs, "Residents who live within 2 blocks of such a sign are apparently allowed to enter."

I would like to know the source of that belief. There is a law called the DC Human Rights Act, which prohibits discrimination in the provision of city services and access to city-owned resources on the basis of residential address. Such a provision would fly squarely in the face of that law. Given the history in DC of de jure and de facto racial segregation that law is still important today.”

God bless you (the person who wrote this)!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also please the visitors to the Black cemetery, because unless you live within 2 block, you walk. Money talks.

Palisades you are disgusting, unless it’s the plane noise that accounts for the brain damage on this one.

To be fair, visitors to the cemetery would not be through traffic and would be allowed.

Which kind of gets to the ridiculousness of the proposal. How does law enforcement identify through traffic? Even if they do something like put a camera at each end and flag cars who enter and leave within a few minutes, how do they distinguish people who stop at the cemetery, the park or a house along the road to pick up or drop off a person or a package?

I don’t think that’s right? Here’s what Palisades folk on the list serve have to say (in support):

“no thru traffic with local traffic only at issue. To answer your question see below.


Local access street – a street or portion of a street designated for access only to drivers of vehicles whose destination or origin is on or within two (2) blocks of such street or portion of the street.
http://dcrules.elaws.us/dcmr/18-9901 “

The cemetery is the "destination."

Good to know. Will continue to visit 3-5 times per day

I’m certain ATVs and dirt bikes will want to lay respect on the reg too

Keep it coming

[Anonymous]

OOB families need University term to get their kids to Key Public Elementary school. That street is despicable. Not a sidewalk in sight. On any given day, every third property has construction or landscaping going on. Rather than offering sidewalks within two blocks of a public elementary school, they got all these flashy signage screaming about a 20 MPH limit, with angry people walking their dogs in the middle of the road. Note that the properties are enormous and could host 4+ vehicles in their driveway instead of in front of their property, their road-facing landscaping is enormous and could easily host walkways, and the road itself can have, in most places, parked car on both sides AND a lane of traffic in each direction.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DDOT has determined BUT cannot find the original request or requestor whom people believe to be a multimillionaire plus Cheh. Matt Frumin; don’t you dare!

I'm sure right about now Matt Frumin is wishing he'd never heard of the DC Council!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OOB families need University term to get their kids to Key Public Elementary school. That street is despicable. Not a sidewalk in sight. On any given day, every third property has construction or landscaping going on. Rather than offering sidewalks within two blocks of a public elementary school, they got all these flashy signage screaming about a 20 MPH limit, with angry people walking their dogs in the middle of the road. Note that the properties are enormous and could host 4+ vehicles in their driveway instead of in front of their property, their road-facing landscaping is enormous and could easily host walkways, and the road itself can have, in most places, parked car on both sides AND a lane of traffic in each direction.

+1

What’s the attraction? Back when, yes. But now, no privacy, planes overhead, slide danger on one side and runoff or another, and ugly ugly ugly

[Anonymous]

PP is so right. These people who by the looks of them I assume to be too chronically ill to walk anywhere but the middle of the road, somehow summon the strength literally hiss at the drivers

What a garbage heap Palisades is becoming unless we can stop the decline ?!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And more crap from the Palisades NIMBYs:

“It no thru traffic with local traffic only at issue. To answer your question see below.


Local access street – a street or portion of a street designated for access only to drivers of vehicles whose destination or origin is on or within two (2) blocks of such street or portion of the street.
http://dcrules.elaws.us/dcmr/18-9901”

Can we please send a clear and resounding heck no!

While it is recognized in the code, there does not seem to be a penalty associated with a violation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DDOT has determined BUT cannot find the original request or requestor whom people believe to be a multimillionaire plus Cheh. Matt Frumin; don’t you dare!

I'm sure right about now Matt Frumin is wishing he'd never heard of the DC Council!

I am willing to bet that Frumin will 100% duck this issue. Probably asked Cheh to help get it done before he starts so that he doesn’t take the heat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And more crap from the Palisades NIMBYs:

“It no thru traffic with local traffic only at issue. To answer your question see below.




Local access street – a street or portion of a street designated for access only to drivers of vehicles whose destination or origin is on or within two (2) blocks of such street or portion of the street.
http://dcrules.elaws.us/dcmr/18-9901”

Can we please send a clear and resounding heck no!

While it is recognized in the code, there does not seem to be a penalty associated with a violation.

It would be failure to obey a traffic control.

[Anonymous]

why aren't there sidewalks there?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:why aren't there sidewalks there?

Rich people don't like poor people walking by their house.

At a recent ANC meeting Andrea Mitchell gave an impassioned speech on the evils of sidewalks.

[Anonymous]

I’m rich and I think this behavior is abhorrent

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:why aren't there sidewalks there?

The anti sidewalk people say that the cost of putting in sidewalks will be tremendous. DDOT agreed, the price is super high, but wanted to do it. CBR people demurred. You can see that lots of houses have built on the easement where a side walk would go...