MCPS faces Teacher shortage next year

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Anonymous wrote:My wife is leaving mostly because of the parents.

So is my wife.

What did parents do or say that was different this year? If parents were inappropriate, why didn't the administration back your wives up?

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Oh, sweet summer child…things got very, very ugly over the last 2 years. I won’t give details of the offenses because I don’t want to make myself identifiable. Some of my colleagues were very publicly harassed, to the point of having to file restraining orders. Admin is terrified of parents and looks the other way.
This shortage isn’t about the superintendent or hiring practices (although mcps has a long history of preferring to hire brand new teachers), this is teacher burnout en masse.

We are seeing this with the umpires in our baseball/softball leagues. Hard to get people to do the job.

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Anonymous wrote:MCPS doesn't actually want experienced, expensive teachers. It wants to hire cheap, impressionable young teachers.

Really? My friends daughter graduated Magna Cum Laude from college this spring with a degree in elementary education. Excellent reviews from her student teaching. A very smart, well spoken and engaging young lady. I could not believe how many jobs she was turned down for. I thought any elementary school in the county would grab her up quickly but instead she was turned down multiple times. I was shocked. All I could think was- "I guess MCPS doesn't want to hire smart, talented, highly motivated young teachers." Fortunately, she's now been offered a teaching position in the county, but she was just about to start looking at Howard and Fairfax. I was absolutely dumbfounded.

Sorry to hear about your friend's daughter but I think it just goes to show that there isn't really a shortage just another fictional point of grievance to complain about.

This happened to me when I applied to county government. They scream they cannot get worked but aren't looking for the best and brightest but ones that fit the diversity and other mold or similar to them. But, no worries, when she does get hired, someone like her will not stay long as she will not be treated well.

I can imagine it's easy to tell yourself this but that's illegal and they don't do this.

DP

What? They very much do this. Have you taken any implicit bias training? Some principals really take it to heart and are convinced that they need to consider this when hiring at a diverse school. It is what it is. Studies show that white teachers are more likely to discipline students of color. Principals want to avoid those issues.

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Anonymous wrote:My wife is leaving mostly because of the parents.

So is my wife.

What did parents do or say that was different this year? If parents were inappropriate, why didn't the administration back your wives up?

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Oh, sweet summer child…things got very, very ugly over the last 2 years. I won’t give details of the offenses because I don’t want to make myself identifiable. Some of my colleagues were very publicly harassed, to the point of having to file restraining orders. Admin is terrified of parents and looks the other way.
This shortage isn’t about the superintendent or hiring practices (although mcps has a long history of preferring to hire brand new teachers), this is teacher burnout en masse.

Harassment is never ok and I genuinely sympathize with teachers that are burned out. The kids are burned out too. It's funny, the union always says what is good for teachers is good for kids but somehow they don't seem to believe in the reverse.

I read this three times and still have no clue what you were trying to say

I'm saying the union spent a long time arguing that what is good for teachers is good for kids, but they didn't want to understand that what is good for kids (in person schooling) would be good for teachers. Hopefully we won't repeat this in the future and further decimate our public school system.

You've seen great resignations in different job fields all over America, watched parents harass teachers for two years, and this is the conclusion you drew? Got it

So are teachers resigning because they have to work in person or because parents are harassing them? Or could there possibly be multiple factors, including the difficulty of teaching kids after a year+ of virtual instruction?

I think a lot of teachers during the pandemic realized that their quality of life could be greatly improved by not being a teacher, for many reasons. One of which is that WFH is a beautiful thing that does not work for teachers during non emergency times. I'm sure a lot of teachers sought out WFH jobs with more flexibility and better pay after this year, and I can't blame them.

It doesn't really matter how well paying a school district is when pay still isn't really comparable to other fields with similar experience and more flexible hours. Teachers do their job often for the service aspect; once parents started trashing them it really took the heart out of that part.

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Anonymous wrote:My wife is leaving mostly because of the parents.

So is my wife.

What did parents do or say that was different this year? If parents were inappropriate, why didn't the administration back your wives up?

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Oh, sweet summer child…things got very, very ugly over the last 2 years. I won’t give details of the offenses because I don’t want to make myself identifiable. Some of my colleagues were very publicly harassed, to the point of having to file restraining orders. Admin is terrified of parents and looks the other way.
This shortage isn’t about the superintendent or hiring practices (although mcps has a long history of preferring to hire brand new teachers), this is teacher burnout en masse.

Harassment is never ok and I genuinely sympathize with teachers that are burned out. The kids are burned out too. It's funny, the union always says what is good for teachers is good for kids but somehow they don't seem to believe in the reverse.

I read this three times and still have no clue what you were trying to say

I'm saying the union spent a long time arguing that what is good for teachers is good for kids, but they didn't want to understand that what is good for kids (in person schooling) would be good for teachers. Hopefully we won't repeat this in the future and further decimate our public school system.

You've seen great resignations in different job fields all over America, watched parents harass teachers for two years, and this is the conclusion you drew? Got it

So are teachers resigning because they have to work in person or because parents are harassing them? Or could there possibly be multiple factors, including the difficulty of teaching kids after a year+ of virtual instruction?

I think a lot of teachers during the pandemic realized that their quality of life could be greatly improved by not being a teacher, for many reasons. One of which is that WFH is a beautiful thing that does not work for teachers during non emergency times. I'm sure a lot of teachers sought out WFH jobs with more flexibility and better pay after this year, and I can't blame them.

It doesn't really matter how well paying a school district is when pay still isn't really comparable to other fields with similar experience and more flexible hours. Teachers do their job often for the service aspect; once parents started trashing them it really took the heart out of that part.

Are you speaking for yourself or are you just trying to imagine why teachers are leaving?

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Anonymous wrote:My wife is leaving mostly because of the parents.

So is my wife.

What did parents do or say that was different this year? If parents were inappropriate, why didn't the administration back your wives up?

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Oh, sweet summer child…things got very, very ugly over the last 2 years. I won’t give details of the offenses because I don’t want to make myself identifiable. Some of my colleagues were very publicly harassed, to the point of having to file restraining orders. Admin is terrified of parents and looks the other way.
This shortage isn’t about the superintendent or hiring practices (although mcps has a long history of preferring to hire brand new teachers), this is teacher burnout en masse.

Harassment is never ok and I genuinely sympathize with teachers that are burned out. The kids are burned out too. It's funny, the union always says what is good for teachers is good for kids but somehow they don't seem to believe in the reverse.

I read this three times and still have no clue what you were trying to say

I'm saying the union spent a long time arguing that what is good for teachers is good for kids, but they didn't want to understand that what is good for kids (in person schooling) would be good for teachers. Hopefully we won't repeat this in the future and further decimate our public school system.

You've seen great resignations in different job fields all over America, watched parents harass teachers for two years, and this is the conclusion you drew? Got it

So are teachers resigning because they have to work in person or because parents are harassing them? Or could there possibly be multiple factors, including the difficulty of teaching kids after a year+ of virtual instruction?

Not sure but I am certain the never ending stream of complaints from the hyper-privileged Karen's doesn't help.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:MCPS doesn't actually want experienced, expensive teachers. It wants to hire cheap, impressionable young teachers.

Really? My friends daughter graduated Magna Cum Laude from college this spring with a degree in elementary education. Excellent reviews from her student teaching. A very smart, well spoken and engaging young lady. I could not believe how many jobs she was turned down for. I thought any elementary school in the county would grab her up quickly but instead she was turned down multiple times. I was shocked. All I could think was- "I guess MCPS doesn't want to hire smart, talented, highly motivated young teachers." Fortunately, she's now been offered a teaching position in the county, but she was just about to start looking at Howard and Fairfax. I was absolutely dumbfounded.

Sorry to hear about your friend's daughter but I think it just goes to show that there isn't really a shortage just another fictional point of grievance to complain about.

Yep, if they had real vacancies to fill, this wouldn't be true.

With the big decline in enrollment they were overstaffed so it kind of makes sense.

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Anonymous wrote:My wife is leaving mostly because of the parents.

So is my wife.

What did parents do or say that was different this year? If parents were inappropriate, why didn't the administration back your wives up?

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Oh, sweet summer child…things got very, very ugly over the last 2 years. I won’t give details of the offenses because I don’t want to make myself identifiable. Some of my colleagues were very publicly harassed, to the point of having to file restraining orders. Admin is terrified of parents and looks the other way.
This shortage isn’t about the superintendent or hiring practices (although mcps has a long history of preferring to hire brand new teachers), this is teacher burnout en masse.

Harassment is never ok and I genuinely sympathize with teachers that are burned out. The kids are burned out too. It's funny, the union always says what is good for teachers is good for kids but somehow they don't seem to believe in the reverse.

Amen. Parents didn’t bother to parent their kids during the pandemic so they love that they can blame their failures on virtual school.

I read this three times and still have no clue what you were trying to say

I'm saying the union spent a long time arguing that what is good for teachers is good for kids, but they didn't want to understand that what is good for kids (in person schooling) would be good for teachers. Hopefully we won't repeat this in the future and further decimate our public school system.

You've seen great resignations in different job fields all over America, watched parents harass teachers for two years, and this is the conclusion you drew? Got it

So are teachers resigning because they have to work in person or because parents are harassing them? Or could there possibly be multiple factors, including the difficulty of teaching kids after a year+ of virtual instruction?

Not sure but I am certain the never ending stream of complaints from the hyper-privileged Karen's doesn't help.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My wife is leaving mostly because of the parents.

So is my wife.

What did parents do or say that was different this year? If parents were inappropriate, why didn't the administration back your wives up?

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Oh, sweet summer child…things got very, very ugly over the last 2 years. I won’t give details of the offenses because I don’t want to make myself identifiable. Some of my colleagues were very publicly harassed, to the point of having to file restraining orders. Admin is terrified of parents and looks the other way.
This shortage isn’t about the superintendent or hiring practices (although mcps has a long history of preferring to hire brand new teachers), this is teacher burnout en masse.

Harassment is never ok and I genuinely sympathize with teachers that are burned out. The kids are burned out too. It's funny, the union always says what is good for teachers is good for kids but somehow they don't seem to believe in the reverse.

I read this three times and still have no clue what you were trying to say

I'm saying the union spent a long time arguing that what is good for teachers is good for kids, but they didn't want to understand that what is good for kids (in person schooling) would be good for teachers. Hopefully we won't repeat this in the future and further decimate our public school system.

You've seen great resignations in different job fields all over America, watched parents harass teachers for two years, and this is the conclusion you drew? Got it

So are teachers resigning because they have to work in person or because parents are harassing them? Or could there possibly be multiple factors, including the difficulty of teaching kids after a year+ of virtual instruction?

I think a lot of teachers during the pandemic realized that their quality of life could be greatly improved by not being a teacher, for many reasons. One of which is that WFH is a beautiful thing that does not work for teachers during non emergency times. I'm sure a lot of teachers sought out WFH jobs with more flexibility and better pay after this year, and I can't blame them.

It doesn't really matter how well paying a school district is when pay still isn't really comparable to other fields with similar experience and more flexible hours. Teachers do their job often for the service aspect; once parents started trashing them it really took the heart out of that part.

I’m curious- what better paying, more flexible jobs are teachers leaving for? My cousin with an education degree decided a few years ago they didn’t want to teach and went to work for a textbook company, but I don’t know how common those types of jobs are.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My wife is leaving mostly because of the parents.

So is my wife.

What did parents do or say that was different this year? If parents were inappropriate, why didn't the administration back your wives up?

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Oh, sweet summer child…things got very, very ugly over the last 2 years. I won’t give details of the offenses because I don’t want to make myself identifiable. Some of my colleagues were very publicly harassed, to the point of having to file restraining orders. Admin is terrified of parents and looks the other way.
This shortage isn’t about the superintendent or hiring practices (although mcps has a long history of preferring to hire brand new teachers), this is teacher burnout en masse.

Harassment is never ok and I genuinely sympathize with teachers that are burned out. The kids are burned out too. It's funny, the union always says what is good for teachers is good for kids but somehow they don't seem to believe in the reverse.

I read this three times and still have no clue what you were trying to say

I'm saying the union spent a long time arguing that what is good for teachers is good for kids, but they didn't want to understand that what is good for kids (in person schooling) would be good for teachers. Hopefully we won't repeat this in the future and further decimate our public school system.

You've seen great resignations in different job fields all over America, watched parents harass teachers for two years, and this is the conclusion you drew? Got it

So are teachers resigning because they have to work in person or because parents are harassing them? Or could there possibly be multiple factors, including the difficulty of teaching kids after a year+ of virtual instruction?

I think a lot of teachers during the pandemic realized that their quality of life could be greatly improved by not being a teacher, for many reasons. One of which is that WFH is a beautiful thing that does not work for teachers during non emergency times. I'm sure a lot of teachers sought out WFH jobs with more flexibility and better pay after this year, and I can't blame them.

It doesn't really matter how well paying a school district is when pay still isn't really comparable to other fields with similar experience and more flexible hours. Teachers do their job often for the service aspect; once parents started trashing them it really took the heart out of that part.

I’m curious- what better paying, more flexible jobs are teachers leaving for? My cousin with an education degree decided a few years ago they didn’t want to teach and went to work for a textbook company, but I don’t know how common those types of jobs are.

There are tons of jobs in EdTech and Curriculum writing

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Anonymous wrote:My wife is leaving mostly because of the parents.

So is my wife.

What did parents do or say that was different this year? If parents were inappropriate, why didn't the administration back your wives up?

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Oh, sweet summer child…things got very, very ugly over the last 2 years. I won’t give details of the offenses because I don’t want to make myself identifiable. Some of my colleagues were very publicly harassed, to the point of having to file restraining orders. Admin is terrified of parents and looks the other way.
This shortage isn’t about the superintendent or hiring practices (although mcps has a long history of preferring to hire brand new teachers), this is teacher burnout en masse.

Harassment is never ok and I genuinely sympathize with teachers that are burned out. The kids are burned out too. It's funny, the union always says what is good for teachers is good for kids but somehow they don't seem to believe in the reverse.

I read this three times and still have no clue what you were trying to say

I'm saying the union spent a long time arguing that what is good for teachers is good for kids, but they didn't want to understand that what is good for kids (in person schooling) would be good for teachers. Hopefully we won't repeat this in the future and further decimate our public school system.

You've seen great resignations in different job fields all over America, watched parents harass teachers for two years, and this is the conclusion you drew? Got it

So are teachers resigning because they have to work in person or because parents are harassing them? Or could there possibly be multiple factors, including the difficulty of teaching kids after a year+ of virtual instruction?

I think a lot of teachers during the pandemic realized that their quality of life could be greatly improved by not being a teacher, for many reasons. One of which is that WFH is a beautiful thing that does not work for teachers during non emergency times. I'm sure a lot of teachers sought out WFH jobs with more flexibility and better pay after this year, and I can't blame them.

It doesn't really matter how well paying a school district is when pay still isn't really comparable to other fields with similar experience and more flexible hours. Teachers do their job often for the service aspect; once parents started trashing them it really took the heart out of that part.

I’m curious- what better paying, more flexible jobs are teachers leaving for? My cousin with an education degree decided a few years ago they didn’t want to teach and went to work for a textbook company, but I don’t know how common those types of jobs are.

There are tons of jobs in EdTech and Curriculum writing

We could definitely use more classroom teachers helping to develop curriculums.

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Teachers aren't special. There is a labor shortage everywhere. Contrary to popular belief, there is no "great resignation"; instead, it is the "great swap". People are switching careers. Also, there was always a teacher shortage and we made it work. When these "teachers" can't find a job that lets them get off at 3:00 or 4:00 and have summers off. Just resign if you're going to so parents and the school board can plan.

[Anonymous]

My principal is leaving this year. I asked her if she was transferring and she said no. I asked her what her plans were and she didn't have any. That's the sign of burnout. She can't even think what her next step is. My friends who have resigned aren't teaching next year. One is having a baby and will probably just stay home. One will work for her family business. One will do her tutoring as full-time as possible. The other is going to be a nanny for this ultra rich family and get paid more than she did as a teacher. She said there are a lot of rich people looking to hire people with teaching experience as nannies/tutors/governesses.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My wife is leaving mostly because of the parents.

So is my wife.

What did parents do or say that was different this year? If parents were inappropriate, why didn't the administration back your wives up?

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Oh, sweet summer child…things got very, very ugly over the last 2 years. I won’t give details of the offenses because I don’t want to make myself identifiable. Some of my colleagues were very publicly harassed, to the point of having to file restraining orders. Admin is terrified of parents and looks the other way.
This shortage isn’t about the superintendent or hiring practices (although mcps has a long history of preferring to hire brand new teachers), this is teacher burnout en masse.

Harassment is never ok and I genuinely sympathize with teachers that are burned out. The kids are burned out too. It's funny, the union always says what is good for teachers is good for kids but somehow they don't seem to believe in the reverse.

I read this three times and still have no clue what you were trying to say

I'm saying the union spent a long time arguing that what is good for teachers is good for kids, but they didn't want to understand that what is good for kids (in person schooling) would be good for teachers. Hopefully we won't repeat this in the future and further decimate our public school system.

You've seen great resignations in different job fields all over America, watched parents harass teachers for two years, and this is the conclusion you drew? Got it

So are teachers resigning because they have to work in person or because parents are harassing them? Or could there possibly be multiple factors, including the difficulty of teaching kids after a year+ of virtual instruction?

I think a lot of teachers during the pandemic realized that their quality of life could be greatly improved by not being a teacher, for many reasons. One of which is that WFH is a beautiful thing that does not work for teachers during non emergency times. I'm sure a lot of teachers sought out WFH jobs with more flexibility and better pay after this year, and I can't blame them.

It doesn't really matter how well paying a school district is when pay still isn't really comparable to other fields with similar experience and more flexible hours. Teachers do their job often for the service aspect; once parents started trashing them it really took the heart out of that part.

I’m curious- what better paying, more flexible jobs are teachers leaving for? My cousin with an education degree decided a few years ago they didn’t want to teach and went to work for a textbook company, but I don’t know how common those types of jobs are.

Maybe a job where you can use the restroom according to your own needs, go off site for lunch, and schedule a doctor’s visit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Teachers aren't special. There is a labor shortage everywhere. Contrary to popular belief, there is no "great resignation"; instead, it is the "great swap". People are switching careers. Also, there was always a teacher shortage and we made it work. When these "teachers" can't find a job that lets them get off at 3:00 or 4:00 and have summers off. Just resign if you're going to so parents and the school board can plan.

No one said teachers are special. They are probably leaving so they don’t have to deal with morons such as yourself though.

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Anonymous wrote:Teachers aren't special. There is a labor shortage everywhere. Contrary to popular belief, there is no "great resignation"; instead, it is the "great swap". People are switching careers. Also, there was always a teacher shortage and we made it work. When these "teachers" can't find a job that lets them get off at 3:00 or 4:00 and have summers off. Just resign if you're going to so parents and the school board can plan.

No one said teachers are special. They are probably leaving so they don’t have to deal with morons such as yourself though.

Teachers actually are special. They are doing one of the most important jobs in society and everyone craps on them. We will have complained and nit picked ourselves out of teachers. You realize they don’t get paid for the summer time off AND they spend many evenings, weekends and holidays doing unpaid work for kids who’s parents in turn ignore or complain about what they do. This next generation is gonna be a hot mess.