Teachers give us the down dirty about SOL scores this year

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Lorton Station had AAP center kids fail both reading and math. Gen ed classes had six kids out of entire classes pass reading and even less pass math. It’s a travesty. I’m out of there.

well, they can hang out on tutor.com all summer and voila!... they should be back on their game!

Well this just makes me even more mad that my DS didn’t get into AAP, our center is Lorton Station. He’s great at reading and math, but apparently not special enough.

My daughter is really good at reading at math and usually gets pass advanced on SOLs. She didn’t get into AAP and we never appealed. We learned from our older child that it will be okay. Everything is open enrollment once they get to middle school and AAP is irrelevant. Don’t stress about it for the 3 years that is an option.

Yeah I wish I had known this before. My understanding is that in MS the Honors classes = the AAP classes and are taught by the same teachers. So AAP is relevant only for ES

You quoted me. For my oldest, they told us at graduation that taking all honors courses would be the same thing AAP and it’s all open enrollment. My child who was not in AAP signed up for as many honors classes as he wanted. He’s in high school and the same is true for honors or AP classes. AAP really is only for elementary school and none of it matters by the time they are in 7th grade.

[Anonymous]

*orientation. Not graduation. You can tell where my mind is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Lorton Station had AAP center kids fail both reading and math. Gen ed classes had six kids out of entire classes pass reading and even less pass math. It’s a travesty. I’m out of there.

well, they can hang out on tutor.com all summer and voila!... they should be back on their game!

Well this just makes me even more mad that my DS didn’t get into AAP, our center is Lorton Station. He’s great at reading and math, but apparently not special enough.

My daughter is really good at reading at math and usually gets pass advanced on SOLs. She didn’t get into AAP and we never appealed. We learned from our older child that it will be okay. Everything is open enrollment once they get to middle school and AAP is irrelevant. Don’t stress about it for the 3 years that is an option.

Yeah I wish I had known this before. My understanding is that in MS the Honors classes = the AAP classes and are taught by the same teachers. So AAP is relevant only for ES

Maybe the same syllabus, but the class codes are different and the kids are kept separate

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lorton Station had AAP center kids fail both reading and math. Gen ed classes had six kids out of entire classes pass reading and even less pass math. It’s a travesty. I’m out of there.

well, they can hang out on tutor.com all summer and voila!... they should be back on their game!

Well this just makes me even more mad that my DS didn’t get into AAP, our center is Lorton Station. He’s great at reading and math, but apparently not special enough.

My daughter is really good at reading at math and usually gets pass advanced on SOLs. She didn’t get into AAP and we never appealed. We learned from our older child that it will be okay. Everything is open enrollment once they get to middle school and AAP is irrelevant. Don’t stress about it for the 3 years that is an option.

Yeah I wish I had known this before. My understanding is that in MS the Honors classes = the AAP classes and are taught by the same teachers. So AAP is relevant only for ES

You quoted me. For my oldest, they told us at graduation that taking all honors courses would be the same thing AAP and it’s all open enrollment. My child who was not in AAP signed up for as many honors classes as he wanted. He’s in high school and the same is true for honors or AP classes. AAP really is only for elementary school and none of it matters by the time they are in 7th grade.

No, that's incorrect. There are AAP-only classes and then honors classes. Anyone can be in the honors classes. Only AAP students can be in the AAP classes. No guarantee that the curriculum is identical or even similar.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can someone please explain the threshold for offering a child a retake vs. just letting them fail?

I was told by my DC that the range was 375-399 (400 is the minimum to pass). Presumably if a child gets a result in that range they may have missed the pass cut-off by one question. I'm guessing if your child got below 375 that it would result in an entirely different discussion. FWIW - DC is in 5th grade AAP. I know within our class that a few kids were asked to re-take the Science SOL. I've heard nothing from our teacher regarding DC so I'm assuming he passed all of them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Third Grade
Reading:
9 Pass Advanced
13 Pass Proficient
2 Fail, below the retake range

Math:
5 Pass Advanced
17 Pass Proficient
2 Fail, within retake range

Interesting. Are the two "fails" in each category consistent (i.e. the same two students?) Just curious.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So reading through this, it seems like many parents are worried less about how their kids actually did rather than proving some point about learning lost during the pandemic? What good does that do at this point? Was done is done.

We're moving on, trying to make up deficits and there's literally no point in this nonsense

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I've been pleased reading this thread, seeing the reports of normal pass rates. Lots of good teachers and good students able to return to normal after virtual school. Not all posts but many of them are encouraging.

Agree. As devastating and disruptive as the pandemic was/is, I think we often underestimate the resiliency of our children.

[Anonymous]

Kids can’t really know who failed because parents may not choose to retake. I know in elementary or middle I would never have my kids retake.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Third Grade
Reading:
9 Pass Advanced
13 Pass Proficient
2 Fail, below the retake range

Math:
5 Pass Advanced
17 Pass Proficient
2 Fail, within retake range

Interesting. Are the two "fails" in each category consistent (i.e. the same two students?) Just curious.

Yes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:March, april, may and the first 2-3 weeks of june is 1/3rd of a school year.

There is no new material in May/June. At most, they missed two months of new material.

While I know this is true, this is horrible. Why do you waste the precious educational time that you have with kids?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:March, april, may and the first 2-3 weeks of june is 1/3rd of a school year.

There is no new material in May/June. At most, they missed two months of new material.

While I know this is true, this is horrible. Why do you waste the precious educational time that you have with kids?

+1. How can there be no new material for 6-7 weeks of the school year? That's insane. You are finally free of teaching to the SOLs. Teach something!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:March, april, may and the first 2-3 weeks of june is 1/3rd of a school year.

There is no new material in May/June. At most, they missed two months of new material.

While I know this is true, this is horrible. Why do you waste the precious educational time that you have with kids?

+1. How can there be no new material for 6-7 weeks of the school year? That's insane. You are finally free of teaching to the SOLs. Teach something!

If that's true why don't they push the SOLs back later in the year, or cut the school year?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:March, april, may and the first 2-3 weeks of june is 1/3rd of a school year.

There is no new material in May/June. At most, they missed two months of new material.

While I know this is true, this is horrible. Why do you waste the precious educational time that you have with kids?

DP. It's not true. Do you know what your kids do in class? Pay attention.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:March, april, may and the first 2-3 weeks of june is 1/3rd of a school year.

There is no new material in May/June. At most, they missed two months of new material.

While I know this is true, this is horrible. Why do you waste the precious educational time that you have with kids?

+1. How can there be no new material for 6-7 weeks of the school year? That's insane. You are finally free of teaching to the SOLs. Teach something!

They are reviewing and doing things like book clubs and special projects. It’s not that they are not doing anything.

[Anonymous]

Good! I hope so. Now is the time to do the things that teachers complain they don't have the time to do, because of SOLs.