TJ admissions results out?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Academies of Loudoun sent an e-mail that students who accept TJ admissions offers will automatically be unenrolled from LCPS. I assume this means they know admissions results will be released soon.

TJ Admissions has confirmed that they will release decisions on Friday the 20th after 6:00 PM.

[Anonymous]

Results should be out on Friday after 5pm.

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And it's ironic that you'd use inflammatory rhetoric to attack those trying to preserve what they saw as a merit-based process when the current School Board could just as readily be accused of doing its utmost to tear the place apart by favoring students with "experience factors" that are a soft proxy for race and lower SES.

Or pretending to use experience factors. They are using a question that every student can answer yes and get those experience factors.
They just want to be seen as taking more low-income kids, knowing that they are just taking high-income kids who checked the box.

+1. The free meals question should have been thrown out.

[Anonymous]

For those of you looking for last year's admission data by school, it is here - http://www.fcag.org/tjstatistics.shtml

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And it's ironic that you'd use inflammatory rhetoric to attack those trying to preserve what they saw as a merit-based process when the current School Board could just as readily be accused of doing its utmost to tear the place apart by favoring students with "experience factors" that are a soft proxy for race and lower SES.

Or pretending to use experience factors. They are using a question that every student can answer yes and get those experience factors.
They just want to be seen as taking more low-income kids, knowing that they are just taking high-income kids who checked the box.

+1. The free meals question should have been thrown out.

I heard they checked this and disqualified anyone who lied.

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And it's ironic that you'd use inflammatory rhetoric to attack those trying to preserve what they saw as a merit-based process when the current School Board could just as readily be accused of doing its utmost to tear the place apart by favoring students with "experience factors" that are a soft proxy for race and lower SES.

Or pretending to use experience factors. They are using a question that every student can answer yes and get those experience factors.
They just want to be seen as taking more low-income kids, knowing that they are just taking high-income kids who checked the box.

+1. The free meals question should have been thrown out.

I heard they checked this and disqualified anyone who lied.

The way it was worded everyone could have answered yes. It would be easy enough to verify.

[Anonymous]

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And it's ironic that you'd use inflammatory rhetoric to attack those trying to preserve what they saw as a merit-based process when the current School Board could just as readily be accused of doing its utmost to tear the place apart by favoring students with "experience factors" that are a soft proxy for race and lower SES.

Or pretending to use experience factors. They are using a question that every student can answer yes and get those experience factors.
They just want to be seen as taking more low-income kids, knowing that they are just taking high-income kids who checked the box.

+1. The free meals question should have been thrown out.

I heard they checked this and disqualified anyone who lied.

The way it was worded everyone could have answered yes. It would be easy enough to verify.

Not really people knew they were lying and should be disqualified if they answered yes when financially they don’t qualify.

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Anonymous wrote:So if that 1.5% of students do not perform relatively well on the test, are they still taking them?

There is no test. If that 1.5% of students has at least a 3.5 GPA and is taking Algebra by 8th, then they're eligible for those slots.

It is more then that.

1) Honors math and science in 7th and 8th grade. this includes Algebra Honors (not just Algebra)
2) At least 1 one other Honors class each year
3) A 3.5 GPA
4) Successful completion of the math problem/essays

I would guess that there is a smaller percentage of kids who are eligible then the people who want the test back think there are.

Is there no requirement that it has to be the top students in that middle school?

Those are the requirements for anyone to apply. The top 1.5% who apply are offered spots. The others go into the general pool for selection.

This is incorrect. Each school has an allotment of 1.5% of its 8th grade population. For example, if a school has 600 8th graders, then they are allotted 600*0.015 = 9 slots. Among the kids who apply from that school, the top 9 will be admitted to TJ, and the rest will go into the general pool for consideration. If only 9 qualified kids were to apply, they would all be admitted.

But “top” is not determined by academic performance or STEM passion. It includes demographic “experience factors.”

[Anonymous]

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And it's ironic that you'd use inflammatory rhetoric to attack those trying to preserve what they saw as a merit-based process when the current School Board could just as readily be accused of doing its utmost to tear the place apart by favoring students with "experience factors" that are a soft proxy for race and lower SES.

Or pretending to use experience factors. They are using a question that every student can answer yes and get those experience factors.
They just want to be seen as taking more low-income kids, knowing that they are just taking high-income kids who checked the box.

+1. The free meals question should have been thrown out.

I heard they checked this and disqualified anyone who lied.

They did not check last year. I would be shocked if they checked this year.

The middle schools have no idea what a family's current economic situation is this (or last) school year. A middle school front office worth their salt is going to shrug and say "Who knows?" if Mr. Shugurt started calling around. The TJ admissions office should have gone back to each and every family that checked Yes to either box and asked them to fill out the FARMS form.

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And it's ironic that you'd use inflammatory rhetoric to attack those trying to preserve what they saw as a merit-based process when the current School Board could just as readily be accused of doing its utmost to tear the place apart by favoring students with "experience factors" that are a soft proxy for race and lower SES.

Or pretending to use experience factors. They are using a question that every student can answer yes and get those experience factors.
They just want to be seen as taking more low-income kids, knowing that they are just taking high-income kids who checked the box.

+1. The free meals question should have been thrown out.

I heard they checked this and disqualified anyone who lied.

The way it was worded everyone could have answered yes. It would be easy enough to verify.

Not really people knew they were lying and should be disqualified if they answered yes when financially they don’t qualify.

OR

THE TJ ADMISSIONS OFFICE SHOULD HAVE KNOWN HOW TO WRITE THESE KINDS OF QUESTIONS.

Seriously. Did they not have ANYONE with half a brain read the meals questions ahead of time?

[Anonymous]

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And it's ironic that you'd use inflammatory rhetoric to attack those trying to preserve what they saw as a merit-based process when the current School Board could just as readily be accused of doing its utmost to tear the place apart by favoring students with "experience factors" that are a soft proxy for race and lower SES.

Or pretending to use experience factors. They are using a question that every student can answer yes and get those experience factors.
They just want to be seen as taking more low-income kids, knowing that they are just taking high-income kids who checked the box.

+1. The free meals question should have been thrown out.

I heard they checked this and disqualified anyone who lied.

The way it was worded everyone could have answered yes. It would be easy enough to verify.

Not really people knew they were lying and should be disqualified if they answered yes when financially they don’t qualify.

I know a FARMS form was sent around in the early part of the year. It would be easy enough to cross check. What does it say about a parent who would check the box knowing damn well what the intent of the question was? My 13 yo knew the intent.

OR

THE TJ ADMISSIONS OFFICE SHOULD HAVE KNOWN HOW TO WRITE THESE KINDS OF QUESTIONS.

Seriously. Did they not have ANYONE with half a brain read the meals questions ahead of time?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
And it's ironic that you'd use inflammatory rhetoric to attack those trying to preserve what they saw as a merit-based process when the current School Board could just as readily be accused of doing its utmost to tear the place apart by favoring students with "experience factors" that are a soft proxy for race and lower SES.

Or pretending to use experience factors. They are using a question that every student can answer yes and get those experience factors.
They just want to be seen as taking more low-income kids, knowing that they are just taking high-income kids who checked the box.

+1. The free meals question should have been thrown out.

I heard they checked this and disqualified anyone who lied.

The way it was worded everyone could have answered yes. It would be easy enough to verify.

Not really people knew they were lying and should be disqualified if they answered yes when financially they don’t qualify.

OR

THE TJ ADMISSIONS OFFICE SHOULD HAVE KNOWN HOW TO WRITE THESE KINDS OF QUESTIONS.

Seriously. Did they not have ANYONE with half a brain read the meals questions ahead of time?

I was wondering if the question was purposely worded the way it was. That way the admissions office could claim “economic diversity” wink wink nod nod.

[Anonymous]

Can you explain what the meal question was? Didn't everyone get free lunch because of COVID?

[Anonymous]

What does the Academy of Loudoun think of people who renege and go with TJ? On the other hand I think TJ is too far for Loudoun kids if they have a choice between that and AOL.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can you explain what the meal question was? Didn't everyone get free lunch because of COVID?

In a nutshell:

Every single person who is under the age of 18 living within Fairfax County is ELIGIBLE for free breakfast and lunch this year. (It does not even matter if they are in public school, homeschooled or in private school - there’s actually a system set up for private/homeschooled kids). Everyone is eligible for free meals due to the Covid Waiver. Doesn’t matter if your dad is a billionaire or if you are homeless. Every child living in Fairfax County *is* ELiGIBLE for free meals for the 2021-22 school year. Period.

The two questions asked by the TJ Admissions office were:

Are you eligible for free or reduce priced meals?
Are you currently receiving free or reduced price meals?

Do you see the problem here?