Va. committee passes bill banning admissions discrimination

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“The bottom line is the (TJ) policy was adopted in order to, frankly, reduce the number of Asian Americans that were attending Thomas Jefferson,” Sen. Chap Petersen said. “And all you have to do is look at all the public comments that were being made at the time.”


You do realize this was already illegal? And nobody used race as a factor.

Try to understand proxy discrimination, you racist dumbass!


Providing access to kids who don't go to wealthy middle schools is really horrible.


Except that you didn’t.


That is exactly what the new plan does.

No. What the new plan did was to discriminate Asian Americans as ruled by the federal court. This is also confirmed by the VA house bill that was just passed.

The new process opened seats to unqualified kids across FCPS -- even low-income middle schools. TJ is a governor school - it wasn't set aside for racial discriminations.


The admitted applicants are qualified. GPA was higher than previous classes.

The process shouldn't support discrimination against race or income. When only 0.6% of a class is economically-disadvantaged you know there is a problem.


Your lies have been debunked numerous times in this forum. Repeating lies won't make them true.


Sorry you have trouble with basic facts:
"The average GPA for applicants (3.9074) is slightly higher this year than it has been in the past five years. "
"Economically disadvantaged students increased from 0.62% (2020-21) to 25.09%."
"Students from historically underrepresented schools increased from 5.56% (2020-21) to 30.73%."
"In the last 10 years, this is the first time all FCPS middle schools had students who were accepted into TJ. "

https://www.fcps.edu/news/tjhsst-offers-admission-550-students-broadens-access-students-who-have-aptitude-stem

As I said, people have debunked this many times. Are you dumb or blind? I guess both.
The watered-down GPAs can never distinguish the students that TJ truly needs. The TJ reform intentionally eliminated the TJ entrance exam and teacher's recommendations, the top 2 measures for one's potential and suitability for TJ.


You may disagree on interpretation, but these are FACTS.

MORE kids from low-income middle schools.
MORE kids from low-income families.

And they were all "qualified".

That's false!
As a matter of fact, many of them are unqualified and lots of kids way more deserving were denied due to the racist change.
And it doesn't matter they're low income if they're unqualified.


Why do you think they are "unqualified"? Please try to answer without sounding like an entitled elitist.

Because they needed a favor from a racist policy to get in and they're replacing the academically more deserving kids. That's a shame!
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"The average GPA for applicants (3.9074) is slightly higher this year than it has been in the past five years. "
"Economically disadvantaged students increased from 0.62% (2020-21) to 25.09%."
"Students from historically underrepresented schools increased from 5.56% (2020-21) to 30.73%."
"In the last 10 years, this is the first time all FCPS middle schools had students who were accepted into TJ. "

https://www.fcps.edu/news/tjhsst-offers-admission-550-students-broadens-access-students-who-have-aptitude-stem


DP. The GPA for the class of 2025 is not comparable to the GPA for any other class. The class of 2025 had virtual learning starting in March of 7th grade. This meant As for almost everyone for that semester. Then, the first half of 8th grade was also entirely virtual with FCPS giving tons of "grace," meaning that kids who showed up and put in a modicum of effort got As. On top of that, it was exceptionally easy for kids to cheat. The same kids "earning" 3.9s in covid times might have only earned 3.5s or lower in real school.

On top of that, there's no evidence that 25.09% of the class of 2025 is actually economically disadvantaged. That percentage of the kids checked the box for receiving free meals, but technically anyone could truthfully check the box.


I've heard they're the strongest class in decades.

It only demonstrates what kind of liars you racist liberals are.


Far far from the strongest class in decades. They are struggling in math and statistics compared to previous classes. Which is no surprise. Got rid of math 2.5 as an option all of a sudden because the school pretty much knows it would be filled with mostly black and Hispanic kids. And that wouldn’t be a good look. Instead they’re going to have to dumb down the classes.
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“The bottom line is the (TJ) policy was adopted in order to, frankly, reduce the number of Asian Americans that were attending Thomas Jefferson,” Sen. Chap Petersen said. “And all you have to do is look at all the public comments that were being made at the time.”


You do realize this was already illegal? And nobody used race as a factor.

Try to understand proxy discrimination, you racist dumbass!


Providing access to kids who don't go to wealthy middle schools is really horrible.


Except that you didn’t.


That is exactly what the new plan does.

No. What the new plan did was to discriminate Asian Americans as ruled by the federal court. This is also confirmed by the VA house bill that was just passed.


The new process opened seats to kids across FCPS -- even low-income middle schools. TJ is a regional resource - it wasn't set aside for a few wealthy middle schools.


The seats were already open to those students. FCPS just decided to ignore merit and set aside seats to students more likely to be Black, Hispanic or low-income, while making clear the intent was to reduce Asian enrollment, in violation of the Constitution.


Love how you leave out white. White enrollment increased under the new plan. Convenient you failed to mention it.
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“The bottom line is the (TJ) policy was adopted in order to, frankly, reduce the number of Asian Americans that were attending Thomas Jefferson,” Sen. Chap Petersen said. “And all you have to do is look at all the public comments that were being made at the time.”


You do realize this was already illegal? And nobody used race as a factor.

Try to understand proxy discrimination, you racist dumbass!


Providing access to kids who don't go to wealthy middle schools is really horrible.


Except that you didn’t.


That is exactly what the new plan does.

No. What the new plan did was to discriminate Asian Americans as ruled by the federal court. This is also confirmed by the VA house bill that was just passed.

The new process opened seats to unqualified kids across FCPS -- even low-income middle schools. TJ is a governor school - it wasn't set aside for racial discriminations.


The admitted applicants are qualified. GPA was higher than previous classes.

The process shouldn't support discrimination against race or income. When only 0.6% of a class is economically-disadvantaged you know there is a problem.


Your lies have been debunked numerous times in this forum. Repeating lies won't make them true.


Sorry you have trouble with basic facts:
"The average GPA for applicants (3.9074) is slightly higher this year than it has been in the past five years. "
"Economically disadvantaged students increased from 0.62% (2020-21) to 25.09%."
"Students from historically underrepresented schools increased from 5.56% (2020-21) to 30.73%."
"In the last 10 years, this is the first time all FCPS middle schools had students who were accepted into TJ. "

https://www.fcps.edu/news/tjhsst-offers-admission-550-students-broadens-access-students-who-have-aptitude-stem

As I said, people have debunked this many times. Are you dumb or blind? I guess both.
The watered-down GPAs can never distinguish the students that TJ truly needs. The TJ reform intentionally eliminated the TJ entrance exam and teacher's recommendations, the top 2 measures for one's potential and suitability for TJ.


You may disagree on interpretation, but these are FACTS.

MORE kids from low-income middle schools.
MORE kids from low-income families.

And they were all "qualified".

That's false!
As a matter of fact, many of them are unqualified and lots of kids way more deserving were denied due to the racist change.
And it doesn't matter they're low income if they're unqualified.


Why do you think they are "unqualified"? Please try to answer without sounding like an entitled elitist.

Because they needed a favor from a racist policy to get in and they're replacing the academically more deserving kids. That's a shame!



Just because there are other qualified students doesn't make them unqualified.

No one "deserves" to be at TJ.

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"The average GPA for applicants (3.9074) is slightly higher this year than it has been in the past five years. "
"Economically disadvantaged students increased from 0.62% (2020-21) to 25.09%."
"Students from historically underrepresented schools increased from 5.56% (2020-21) to 30.73%."
"In the last 10 years, this is the first time all FCPS middle schools had students who were accepted into TJ. "

https://www.fcps.edu/news/tjhsst-offers-admission-550-students-broadens-access-students-who-have-aptitude-stem


DP. The GPA for the class of 2025 is not comparable to the GPA for any other class. The class of 2025 had virtual learning starting in March of 7th grade. This meant As for almost everyone for that semester. Then, the first half of 8th grade was also entirely virtual with FCPS giving tons of "grace," meaning that kids who showed up and put in a modicum of effort got As. On top of that, it was exceptionally easy for kids to cheat. The same kids "earning" 3.9s in covid times might have only earned 3.5s or lower in real school.

On top of that, there's no evidence that 25.09% of the class of 2025 is actually economically disadvantaged. That percentage of the kids checked the box for receiving free meals, but technically anyone could truthfully check the box.


I've heard they're the strongest class in decades.

It only demonstrates what kind of liars you racist liberals are.


Far far from the strongest class in decades. They are struggling in math and statistics compared to previous classes. Which is no surprise. Got rid of math 2.5 as an option all of a sudden because the school pretty much knows it would be filled with mostly black and Hispanic kids. And that wouldn’t be a good look. Instead they’re going to have to dumb down the classes.


Wow. Speaking of racist.
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White families really don’t care if their kids attend TJ. They send their kids to privates and to the sought-after FCPS pyramids.

Some care about getting URMs to think well of them and are happy to throw Asians under the bus to serve that goal.
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“The bottom line is the (TJ) policy was adopted in order to, frankly, reduce the number of Asian Americans that were attending Thomas Jefferson,” Sen. Chap Petersen said. “And all you have to do is look at all the public comments that were being made at the time.”


You do realize this was already illegal? And nobody used race as a factor.

Try to understand proxy discrimination, you racist dumbass!


Providing access to kids who don't go to wealthy middle schools is really horrible.


Except that you didn’t.


That is exactly what the new plan does.

No. What the new plan did was to discriminate Asian Americans as ruled by the federal court. This is also confirmed by the VA house bill that was just passed.

The new process opened seats to unqualified kids across FCPS -- even low-income middle schools. TJ is a governor school - it wasn't set aside for racial discriminations.


The admitted applicants are qualified. GPA was higher than previous classes.

The process shouldn't support discrimination against race or income. When only 0.6% of a class is economically-disadvantaged you know there is a problem.


Your lies have been debunked numerous times in this forum. Repeating lies won't make them true.


Sorry you have trouble with basic facts:
"The average GPA for applicants (3.9074) is slightly higher this year than it has been in the past five years. "
"Economically disadvantaged students increased from 0.62% (2020-21) to 25.09%."
"Students from historically underrepresented schools increased from 5.56% (2020-21) to 30.73%."
"In the last 10 years, this is the first time all FCPS middle schools had students who were accepted into TJ. "

https://www.fcps.edu/news/tjhsst-offers-admission-550-students-broadens-access-students-who-have-aptitude-stem

As I said, people have debunked this many times. Are you dumb or blind? I guess both.
The watered-down GPAs can never distinguish the students that TJ truly needs. The TJ reform intentionally eliminated the TJ entrance exam and teacher's recommendations, the top 2 measures for one's potential and suitability for TJ.


You may disagree on interpretation, but these are FACTS.

MORE kids from low-income middle schools.
MORE kids from low-income families.

And they were all "qualified".

That's false!
As a matter of fact, many of them are unqualified and lots of kids way more deserving were denied due to the racist change.
And it doesn't matter they're low income if they're unqualified.


Why do you think they are "unqualified"? Please try to answer without sounding like an entitled elitist.

Because they needed a favor from a racist policy to get in and they're replacing the academically more deserving kids. That's a shame!



Just because there are other qualified students doesn't make them unqualified.

No one "deserves" to be at TJ.


Yes they're unqualified. If they were qualified, they would have been able to get in before the racist change.
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“The bottom line is the (TJ) policy was adopted in order to, frankly, reduce the number of Asian Americans that were attending Thomas Jefferson,” Sen. Chap Petersen said. “And all you have to do is look at all the public comments that were being made at the time.”


You do realize this was already illegal? And nobody used race as a factor.

Try to understand proxy discrimination, you racist dumbass!


Providing access to kids who don't go to wealthy middle schools is really horrible.


Except that you didn’t.


That is exactly what the new plan does.

No. What the new plan did was to discriminate Asian Americans as ruled by the federal court. This is also confirmed by the VA house bill that was just passed.

The new process opened seats to unqualified kids across FCPS -- even low-income middle schools. TJ is a governor school - it wasn't set aside for racial discriminations.


The admitted applicants are qualified. GPA was higher than previous classes.

The process shouldn't support discrimination against race or income. When only 0.6% of a class is economically-disadvantaged you know there is a problem.


Your lies have been debunked numerous times in this forum. Repeating lies won't make them true.


Sorry you have trouble with basic facts:
"The average GPA for applicants (3.9074) is slightly higher this year than it has been in the past five years. "
"Economically disadvantaged students increased from 0.62% (2020-21) to 25.09%."
"Students from historically underrepresented schools increased from 5.56% (2020-21) to 30.73%."
"In the last 10 years, this is the first time all FCPS middle schools had students who were accepted into TJ. "

https://www.fcps.edu/news/tjhsst-offers-admission-550-students-broadens-access-students-who-have-aptitude-stem

As I said, people have debunked this many times. Are you dumb or blind? I guess both.
The watered-down GPAs can never distinguish the students that TJ truly needs. The TJ reform intentionally eliminated the TJ entrance exam and teacher's recommendations, the top 2 measures for one's potential and suitability for TJ.


You may disagree on interpretation, but these are FACTS.

MORE kids from low-income middle schools.
MORE kids from low-income families.

And they were all "qualified".

That's false!
As a matter of fact, many of them are unqualified and lots of kids way more deserving were denied due to the racist change.
And it doesn't matter they're low income if they're unqualified.


Why do you think they are "unqualified"? Please try to answer without sounding like an entitled elitist.

Because they needed a favor from a racist policy to get in and they're replacing the academically more deserving kids. That's a shame!



Just because there are other qualified students doesn't make them unqualified.

No one "deserves" to be at TJ.


Yes they're unqualified. If they were qualified, they would have been able to get in before the racist change.


There are tons of qualified students who are NOT admitted. You think there are only 550 "qualified" students in the area?
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“The bottom line is the (TJ) policy was adopted in order to, frankly, reduce the number of Asian Americans that were attending Thomas Jefferson,” Sen. Chap Petersen said. “And all you have to do is look at all the public comments that were being made at the time.”


You do realize this was already illegal? And nobody used race as a factor.

Try to understand proxy discrimination, you racist dumbass!


Providing access to kids who don't go to wealthy middle schools is really horrible.


Except that you didn’t.


That is exactly what the new plan does.

No. What the new plan did was to discriminate Asian Americans as ruled by the federal court. This is also confirmed by the VA house bill that was just passed.

The new process opened seats to unqualified kids across FCPS -- even low-income middle schools. TJ is a governor school - it wasn't set aside for racial discriminations.


The admitted applicants are qualified. GPA was higher than previous classes.

The process shouldn't support discrimination against race or income. When only 0.6% of a class is economically-disadvantaged you know there is a problem.


Your lies have been debunked numerous times in this forum. Repeating lies won't make them true.


Sorry you have trouble with basic facts:
"The average GPA for applicants (3.9074) is slightly higher this year than it has been in the past five years. "
"Economically disadvantaged students increased from 0.62% (2020-21) to 25.09%."
"Students from historically underrepresented schools increased from 5.56% (2020-21) to 30.73%."
"In the last 10 years, this is the first time all FCPS middle schools had students who were accepted into TJ. "

https://www.fcps.edu/news/tjhsst-offers-admission-550-students-broadens-access-students-who-have-aptitude-stem

As I said, people have debunked this many times. Are you dumb or blind? I guess both.
The watered-down GPAs can never distinguish the students that TJ truly needs. The TJ reform intentionally eliminated the TJ entrance exam and teacher's recommendations, the top 2 measures for one's potential and suitability for TJ.


You may disagree on interpretation, but these are FACTS.

MORE kids from low-income middle schools.
MORE kids from low-income families.

And they were all "qualified".

That's false!
As a matter of fact, many of them are unqualified and lots of kids way more deserving were denied due to the racist change.
And it doesn't matter they're low income if they're unqualified.


Why do you think they are "unqualified"? Please try to answer without sounding like an entitled elitist.

Because they needed a favor from a racist policy to get in and they're replacing the academically more deserving kids. That's a shame!



Just because there are other qualified students doesn't make them unqualified.

No one "deserves" to be at TJ.


Yes they're unqualified. If they were qualified, they would have been able to get in before the racist change.


There are tons of qualified students who are NOT admitted. You think there are only 550 "qualified" students in the area?

"qualified" to be among the top 550 or whatever that number is. dumbass!
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Anonymous wrote:White families really don’t care if their kids attend TJ. They send their kids to privates and to the sought-after FCPS pyramids.

Some care about getting URMs to think well of them and are happy to throw Asians under the bus to serve that goal.


I know you don't mean to be racist but it is implied in your statement unfortunately.. You are assuming that ALL white families with smart kids are rich enough to either send their kids to expensive private schools or can afford to buy homes in expensive zip codes.. Why don't you make the same assumptions about Asians, who at a national level have more income than Whites?

Also, I don't really think these peddlers want the URMs to think well of them necessarily. It makes them feel good.. like giving to charity.
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"The average GPA for applicants (3.9074) is slightly higher this year than it has been in the past five years. "
"Economically disadvantaged students increased from 0.62% (2020-21) to 25.09%."
"Students from historically underrepresented schools increased from 5.56% (2020-21) to 30.73%."
"In the last 10 years, this is the first time all FCPS middle schools had students who were accepted into TJ. "

https://www.fcps.edu/news/tjhsst-offers-admission-550-students-broadens-access-students-who-have-aptitude-stem


DP. The GPA for the class of 2025 is not comparable to the GPA for any other class. The class of 2025 had virtual learning starting in March of 7th grade. This meant As for almost everyone for that semester. Then, the first half of 8th grade was also entirely virtual with FCPS giving tons of "grace," meaning that kids who showed up and put in a modicum of effort got As. On top of that, it was exceptionally easy for kids to cheat. The same kids "earning" 3.9s in covid times might have only earned 3.5s or lower in real school.

On top of that, there's no evidence that 25.09% of the class of 2025 is actually economically disadvantaged. That percentage of the kids checked the box for receiving free meals, but technically anyone could truthfully check the box.


I've heard they're the strongest class in decades.

It only demonstrates what kind of liars you racist liberals are.


Far far from the strongest class in decades. They are struggling in math and statistics compared to previous classes. Which is no surprise. Got rid of math 2.5 as an option all of a sudden because the school pretty much knows it would be filled with mostly black and Hispanic kids. And that wouldn’t be a good look. Instead they’re going to have to dumb down the classes.


Wow. Speaking of racist.


Nope. It’s simply the truth. Btw, my kid is an URM in the TJ class of 2025
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Anonymous wrote:White families really don’t care if their kids attend TJ. They send their kids to privates and to the sought-after FCPS pyramids.

Some care about getting URMs to think well of them and are happy to throw Asians under the bus to serve that goal.


I know you don't mean to be racist but it is implied in your statement unfortunately.. You are assuming that ALL white families with smart kids are rich enough to either send their kids to expensive private schools or can afford to buy homes in expensive zip codes.. Why don't you make the same assumptions about Asians, who at a national level have more income than Whites?

Also, I don't really think these peddlers want the URMs to think well of them necessarily. It makes them feel good.. like giving to charity.

Yes, giving to charity using money robbed from other people! Those a-holes!
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I hope they cancel TJ. I don't want to pay for this scam.
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Anonymous wrote:I hope they cancel TJ. I don't want to pay for this scam.

Keep hoping then, scam!
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Anonymous wrote:I hope they cancel TJ. I don't want to pay for this scam.

Better yet, move out of Fairfax county! We'll be better without one less racist!
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