Comfort level around unvaxxed family

[Anonymous]

We are vaxed; I'm ok with it. We do not have big health issues that put as at great risk.

4 weeks after getting his second shot, my 11 year old got covid. It was mild. No one else in the family got it.

[Anonymous]

No I’d skip the unvaccinated side of the family this year. You have to be pretty extreme and a real nutcase to be unvaccinated in CA. It’s not like they are in a crazy red state where they are told COVID doesn’t matter.

[Anonymous]

OP for perspective 95% of the population over age 65 in CA have had at least one vaccine dose. You father and step mother are truly crazy jerks and terrible people. There is no way I’d let my kids hang out with horrible people like this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What’s your goal here? To not get covid? you’re flying and going to be exposed to so many people on the way there where you might get covid. Just accept that you might get covid either from the flight or your family and have a normal visit. Youre overthinking it. You also might not get it! I know people who traveled who didn’t

Agree with this person, you have to decide what your goal is. It's obviously not to never expose yourself to covid because you are flying with your whole family and are willing to go to public places while there. So, why wouldn't you also see your other unvax family members? They are probably not any more likely to have or spread to you. You yourself noted that you are boosted and also had covid, so you know that vaccination doesn't mean you won't get or spread covid. Now if your goal is to protect your unvaccinated family members from something you might bring to their house with all of your travels, then you should limit your contact so that you don't spread anything to them. And testing would help with that. If your goal is to make a political statement, then use some of the tactics others here have suggested about making your stance known.

Personally, I've stopped caring about vaccination status. If you choose not to be vaccinated you are at a higher risk of complications from the disease that is circulating everywhere. That's a terrible choice. And some times I lie away wondering about the guilt I would feel if my (vaccinated) child exposed my unvaccinated father and he died - but ultimately, I cannot control other people I can only control myself, so I'm not going to shoulder that blame. Seeing family is important to me, so while I will be as careful as possible and test before going to my parents house, I won't stop seeing them just because of their choice.

Best answer above
I'm late to the party but ultimately your vaccinated relatives could also pass COVID to your family, in the unfortunate chance any of them have it. Your family is as protected as they are going to be around both vaccinated and unvaccinated relatives, as the virus doesnt prevent transmission to you or from you. If you're looking to protect unvaxed family then there's that, otherwise, let's try to not let COVID divide us any longer-see your family, enjoy these moments

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What’s your goal here? To not get covid? you’re flying and going to be exposed to so many people on the way there where you might get covid. Just accept that you might get covid either from the flight or your family and have a normal visit. Youre overthinking it. You also might not get it! I know people who traveled who didn’t

Agree with this person, you have to decide what your goal is. It's obviously not to never expose yourself to covid because you are flying with your whole family and are willing to go to public places while there. So, why wouldn't you also see your other unvax family members? They are probably not any more likely to have or spread to you. You yourself noted that you are boosted and also had covid, so you know that vaccination doesn't mean you won't get or spread covid. Now if your goal is to protect your unvaccinated family members from something you might bring to their house with all of your travels, then you should limit your contact so that you don't spread anything to them. And testing would help with that. If your goal is to make a political statement, then use some of the tactics others here have suggested about making your stance known.

Personally, I've stopped caring about vaccination status. If you choose not to be vaccinated you are at a higher risk of complications from the disease that is circulating everywhere. That's a terrible choice. And some times I lie away wondering about the guilt I would feel if my (vaccinated) child exposed my unvaccinated father and he died - but ultimately, I cannot control other people I can only control myself, so I'm not going to shoulder that blame. Seeing family is important to me, so while I will be as careful as possible and test before going to my parents house, I won't stop seeing them just because of their choice.

Best answer above
I'm late to the party but ultimately your vaccinated relatives could also pass COVID to your family, in the unfortunate chance any of them have it. Your family is as protected as they are going to be around both vaccinated and unvaccinated relatives, as the virus doesnt prevent transmission to you or from you. If you're looking to protect unvaxed family then there's that, otherwise, let's try to not let COVID divide us any longer-see your family, enjoy these moments

*as the vaccine doesn't.."

[Anonymous]

Her 4 year old isn’t vaccinated, they don’t want to catch COVID and her mother and step father are being very cautious. Dad and step mother are unvaccinated jerks that don’t take precautions. This one is easy as the jerk side of the family shouldn’t force their bad decisions on two other families. The jerk side can wait until the 4 year old is vaccinated and OP’s mother feels OK about visiting with people who have been around unvaccinated jerks.

My MIL is fully vaccinated and boosted but she takes no precautions. Her mask is always fallen below her chin, she forgets it and lies about wearing it. We FaceTimed with her once and she was out with friends. She started going on about how she wears her mask and we had to remind her that FaceTime video is two way. We can see you sitting there with friends not wearing the mask lol!

We did not let her visit until all of us were fully vaccinated and we were comfortable that we would get COVID. She came over Christmas, caught a ‘cold’ , refused to get a PCR, pretty sure she faked the rapid test and flew back as scheduled. Once she returned home, she was quite sick but is adamant that it was just a rare severe strain of bronchitis. My family had three positives and one negative. Luckily the positives were pretty much asymptomatic. She knows she caught covid while traveling about up here and gave it to us. Her main focus is not admitting it. We are very glad that we didn’t let her visit before we were all fully vaccinated and willing to risk covid.

[Anonymous]

You are all a bunch of anxiety ridden morons. If YOU are vaccinated, wtf do you care if the next person isn’t? YOU are protected. Get off your high horses and stop with the virtue signaling. You are no better, no more worthy than anyone else. Stop the madness!

[Anonymous]

Repeat the 4 year old is vaccinated AND the other set of elderly parents are being very cautious. The dad and step mom are bad people because they don’t care about the four year old or the other elderly parents.

This is why people view the unvaccinated as scum. They expect to be welcomed, invited along and embraced even when it means risking someone elses’s health.

We have several older relatives going through chemo and others over 90. They are only interacting with relatives who are fully vaccinated and boosted and cautious..meaning willing to test and avoid indoor exposure for a week or two before visiting, This is cutting out the unvaccinated yahoos who are livid that they are not included. Too bad, so sad. In fact, they have behaved so badly during the pandemic no one is planning on reconnecting with after things return to normal.

[Anonymous]

I would assume that the unvaxxed and unboosted are more susceptible, so as long as they aren't interacting with older relatives, it's literally their funeral. So I would let the four year old sneeze in their unvaxxed faces, if that's what they want.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You are all a bunch of anxiety ridden morons. If YOU are vaccinated, wtf do you care if the next person isn’t? YOU are protected. Get off your high horses and stop with the virtue signaling. You are no better, no more worthy than anyone else. Stop the madness!

100%

[Anonymous]

1. The four old is not vaccinated.

2. OP mom and step dad are being cautious. Some of the elderly do not mount the same immune response as young adults. The vaccines go a long way to protect them but they need to coupled with avoiding situations of high exposure.

3. OP is not trying to convince her anti vax dumb relatives to get vaccinated. The anti vaxxers are the ones demanding to see her and her family. The cognitive dissonance of anti vaxxers to in one breath yell why do you care what I do and in the second breath you must do what I WANT is amazing. If you do not get vaccinated you will pay consequences. These can include death, medical bankruptcy, lost time with friends and relatives, losing your job and losing the ability to attend some venues. If you choose to be a pariah, don’t be surprised when you are treated like a pariah. You made your bed, so go lay in it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Repeat the 4 year old is vaccinated AND the other set of elderly parents are being very cautious. The dad and step mom are bad people because they don’t care about the four year old or the other elderly parents.

This is why people view the unvaccinated as scum. They expect to be welcomed, invited along and embraced even when it means risking someone elses’s health.

We have several older relatives going through chemo and others over 90. They are only interacting with relatives who are fully vaccinated and boosted and cautious..meaning willing to test and avoid indoor exposure for a week or two before visiting, This is cutting out the unvaccinated yahoos who are livid that they are not included. Too bad, so sad. In fact, they have behaved so badly during the pandemic no one is planning on reconnecting with after things return to normal.

No 4 year old is legally vaccinated.

Personally I'd stay away from anyone vaccinated who isn't being cautious as they can spread it just as easily. Most people have behaved badly. Vaccines alone will not rescue us until we have better vaccines.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We would only see the unvaccinated relatives outdoors with masks on, and explain to the kids why they can’t do the sleepover tradition this trip. “Ask Grandpa why he won’t get vaccinated to protect himself and everyone around him.”

Goodness. What a sad thing to say to a child. OP, go see your parents and do everything like normal. The risk is to them, not your family. Your 4 year old is very, very low risk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Her 4 year old isn’t vaccinated, they don’t want to catch COVID and her mother and step father are being very cautious. Dad and step mother are unvaccinated jerks that don’t take precautions. This one is easy as the jerk side of the family shouldn’t force their bad decisions on two other families. The jerk side can wait until the 4 year old is vaccinated and OP’s mother feels OK about visiting with people who have been around unvaccinated jerks.

My MIL is fully vaccinated and boosted but she takes no precautions. Her mask is always fallen below her chin, she forgets it and lies about wearing it. We FaceTimed with her once and she was out with friends. She started going on about how she wears her mask and we had to remind her that FaceTime video is two way. We can see you sitting there with friends not wearing the mask lol!

We did not let her visit until all of us were fully vaccinated and we were comfortable that we would get COVID. She came over Christmas, caught a ‘cold’ , refused to get a PCR, pretty sure she faked the rapid test and flew back as scheduled. Once she returned home, she was quite sick but is adamant that it was just a rare severe strain of bronchitis. My family had three positives and one negative. Luckily the positives were pretty much asymptomatic. She knows she caught covid while traveling about up here and gave it to us. Her main focus is not admitting it. We are very glad that we didn’t let her visit before we were all fully vaccinated and willing to risk covid.

This story is evidence of why the OP should just see her family. If vaccinated people and kids get COVID, they tend to be fine. This is worth the risk.

[Anonymous]

Europe just released a quality control study showing that vax doses can vary from almost no active ingredient to 7-8x the expected amount.
Ie. There is wild inconsistency in the manufacturing.
What a mess.