Can federal agencies fire you if your performance is satisfactory?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, was your PIP started anytime recently?

What is the difference between a bad review and a pip? Isn't the bad rebiew before the pip?

Florida?
n’t have an bad review or a PIP.

But there are discussions and annual reviews before a pip so curious what you mean by a pip being started?

I never said there was PIP. OP never said there was a PIP. Some who misread the OP said there was a PIP.

[Anonymous]

I am still confused about this. How come an agency or supervisor can come up with something related with conduct when there was no issues with related with that but only if the performance is bad?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am still confused about this. How come an agency or supervisor can come up with something related with conduct when there was no issues with related with that but only if the performance is bad?

Basically- poor performance is poor conduct.

https://www.mspb.gov/studies/adverse_action_report/4_Performance-Based%20Actions.htm

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am still confused about this. How come an agency or supervisor can come up with something related with conduct when there was no issues with related with that but only if the performance is bad?

Basically- poor performance is poor conduct.

https://www.mspb.gov/studies/adverse_action_report/4_Performance-Based%20Actions.htm

NP and this was super helpful, thank you for posting it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Something that has worked at my agency is the threat of a bad review. Basically, the employee is told they will receive a poor review. If the person hopes to continue in government or even some other places, they won’t want that on their record. So, the employee leaves in lieu of the bad review.

I work for a contractor. My supervisor is an unethical immoral immature woman who has slept and dated coworkers under her and is brash and sexist. She has special presence for men and her friends. She pinpointed me for having a longer break than usual but let the men she likes slide for having hour long breaks everyday. There is another supervisor who comes in to our office and sits for 2 hours flirting with the men everyday. I asked for help one time and she told the other supervisor mentioned that I didn't do my research before calling her. So when that other supervisor told me these things in our yearly review I knew fighting back was for nothing and signed the review. If this affects me though is it a good idea to tell about what she has been doing? Our contract is ending soon and everyone including her will be kicked out.

Is your supervisor a fed?

No. We are contractors.

Then none of these apply to you. A regular GS-15 supervisor has zero control over contractors. Even our executive director tried to get rid of the contractors and it was impossible.

[Anonymous]

Getting rid of contractors is usually not an issue. It also depends on how the support contractors agreement is written but I have rarely seen a contractor picking fights for an employee if he/she is not working out with the Fed manager.