What colleges get the most hate on this board?

[Anonymous]

NESCAC schools as a group get a lot of hate from people who just don’t get why someone would go to a SLAC. I think it mostly comes from state school grads with chips on their shoulders from being passed over for a grad from some “no name” school. They can’t seem to fathom that most of these schools offer a great education and a great undergrad experience.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Schools that feel “strivery” are annoying. Doesn’t mean the education isn’t just fine but not what they comport themselves to be.

Examples: U chicago (while a good school for sure, the kids and school feel like they are trying too too hard) , Tulane, Wash U, NYU.

Yeah, because heaven forbid any school that wasn’t prized a century ago improve itself and become prestigious. Same for people, if you weren’t born into wealth and privilege, don’t bother trying to earn your way up. ‘Striver’ is a word the insecure elite use to close ranks and protect their privilege. But guess, what—institutions change. And people, too.

By "improve itself" you mean by hook or by crook move its way up a totally bogus college ranking list by a defunct magazine? And your striver mindset ignores or simply doesn't comprehend or value the traditions, history, and je ne sais quoi those old institutions offer. And it's not as if the Ivies have slipped, they are in higher demand than ever before and their endowments are strong, so nobody can really pass them.

Stanford is elite but it doesn't match the vibe an history of the Ivies. Plus it's D1 sports obsessed, same for Duke, Notre Dame, and Northwestern, so they all have a jock-sniffing go team go public university vibe.

That's what's awesome about schools like these...they have great academics, school spirit and great football (esp. ND).

Jock-sniffing? LOL Students at these schools have the best of everything. I would have no hesitation of encouraging my kid to pick one of these schools over a pressure cooker ivy if it meant his happiness and better mental health. Lots more suicides at ivies than at these schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Schools that feel “strivery” are annoying. Doesn’t mean the education isn’t just fine but not what they comport themselves to be.

Examples: U chicago (while a good school for sure, the kids and school feel like they are trying too too hard) , Tulane, Wash U, NYU.

Yeah, because heaven forbid any school that wasn’t prized a century ago improve itself and become prestigious. Same for people, if you weren’t born into wealth and privilege, don’t bother trying to earn your way up. ‘Striver’ is a word the insecure elite use to close ranks and protect their privilege. But guess, what—institutions change. And people, too.

By "improve itself" you mean by hook or by crook move its way up a totally bogus college ranking list by a defunct magazine? And your striver mindset ignores or simply doesn't comprehend or value the traditions, history, and je ne sais quoi those old institutions offer. And it's not as if the Ivies have slipped, they are in higher demand than ever before and their endowments are strong, so nobody can really pass them.

Stanford is elite but it doesn't match the vibe an history of the Ivies. Plus it's D1 sports obsessed, same for Duke, Notre Dame, and Northwestern, so they all have a jock-sniffing go team go public university vibe.

That's what's awesome about schools like these...they have great academics, school spirit and great football (esp. ND).

Jock-sniffing? LOL Students at these schools have the best of everything. I would have no hesitation of encouraging my kid to pick one of these schools over a pressure cooker ivy if it meant his happiness and better mental health. Lots more suicides at ivies than at these schools.

+1 and Wtf Stanford doesn’t match the vibe as ivys? Lolz

[Anonymous]

The Ivies will always be special, they can't be surpassed -- there is no substitute for HUNDREDS of years of history and traditions. Especially now with every kid going to college and basically all universities being over-enrolled degree mills with no unique identity. Colleges are simply cookie-cutter homogenized businesses at this point, while Ivies remain a truly unique niche brand -- and keep small enrollment sizes and hyper-selectivity. No amount of money can replicate what the Ivies offer. Think about it, what would it take to try and "make" even a lower Ivy? Not that this sort of money realistically even exists, but say Jeff Bezos hypothetically doubled Vanderbilt's ($10bn to $20bn) or Williams' ($4bn to $8bn) endowments, are they suddenly Ivy tier in a few years? No, they're not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Ivies will always be special, they can't be surpassed -- there is no substitute for HUNDREDS of years of history and traditions. Especially now with every kid going to college and basically all universities being over-enrolled degree mills with no unique identity. Colleges are simply cookie-cutter homogenized businesses at this point, while Ivies remain a truly unique niche brand -- and keep small enrollment sizes and hyper-selectivity. No amount of money can replicate what the Ivies offer. Think about it, what would it take to try and "make" even a lower Ivy? Not that this sort of money realistically even exists, but say Jeff Bezos hypothetically doubled Vanderbilt's ($10bn to $20bn) or Williams' ($4bn to $8bn) endowments, are they suddenly Ivy tier in a few years? No, they're not.

huh...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Ivies will always be special, they can't be surpassed -- there is no substitute for HUNDREDS of years of history and traditions. Especially now with every kid going to college and basically all universities being over-enrolled degree mills with no unique identity. Colleges are simply cookie-cutter homogenized businesses at this point, while Ivies remain a truly unique niche brand -- and keep small enrollment sizes and hyper-selectivity. No amount of money can replicate what the Ivies offer. Think about it, what would it take to try and "make" even a lower Ivy? Not that this sort of money realistically even exists, but say Jeff Bezos hypothetically doubled Vanderbilt's ($10bn to $20bn) or Williams' ($4bn to $8bn) endowments, are they suddenly Ivy tier in a few years? No, they're not.

The Ivy’s HAD unique identities. Now they are degree mills for students selected for any number of attributes (legacy, development case, First Gen, URM, athletic recruits) none of which have anything to do with academics. Why do they love test optional? Because it increases their application numbers and makes them look “selective” while they continue their social experiment without anyone questioning the qualifications of the students they are admitting. Everyone knows that Ivy students can coast once they get in. There are dozens of fine universities that have admission stats that are effectively the same as the Ivy’s that do a much better job of educating undergraduates. The bloom is off these schools and this is just the beginning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Ivies will always be special, they can't be surpassed -- there is no substitute for HUNDREDS of years of history and traditions. Especially now with every kid going to college and basically all universities being over-enrolled degree mills with no unique identity. Colleges are simply cookie-cutter homogenized businesses at this point, while Ivies remain a truly unique niche brand -- and keep small enrollment sizes and hyper-selectivity. No amount of money can replicate what the Ivies offer. Think about it, what would it take to try and "make" even a lower Ivy? Not that this sort of money realistically even exists, but say Jeff Bezos hypothetically doubled Vanderbilt's ($10bn to $20bn) or Williams' ($4bn to $8bn) endowments, are they suddenly Ivy tier in a few years? No, they're not.

The Ivy’s HAD unique identities. Now they are degree mills for students selected for any number of attributes (legacy, development case, First Gen, URM, athletic recruits) none of which have anything to do with academics. Why do they love test optional? Because it increases their application numbers and makes them look “selective” while they continue their social experiment without anyone questioning the qualifications of the students they are admitting. Everyone knows that Ivy students can coast once they get in. There are dozens of fine universities that have admission stats that are effectively the same as the Ivy’s that do a much better job of educating undergraduates. The bloom is off these schools and this is just the beginning.

Dayummmmmm

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Ivies will always be special, they can't be surpassed -- there is no substitute for HUNDREDS of years of history and traditions. Especially now with every kid going to college and basically all universities being over-enrolled degree mills with no unique identity. Colleges are simply cookie-cutter homogenized businesses at this point, while Ivies remain a truly unique niche brand -- and keep small enrollment sizes and hyper-selectivity. No amount of money can replicate what the Ivies offer. Think about it, what would it take to try and "make" even a lower Ivy? Not that this sort of money realistically even exists, but say Jeff Bezos hypothetically doubled Vanderbilt's ($10bn to $20bn) or Williams' ($4bn to $8bn) endowments, are they suddenly Ivy tier in a few years? No, they're not.

The Ivy’s HAD unique identities. Now they are degree mills for students selected for any number of attributes (legacy, development case, First Gen, URM, athletic recruits) none of which have anything to do with academics. Why do they love test optional? Because it increases their application numbers and makes them look “selective” while they continue their social experiment without anyone questioning the qualifications of the students they are admitting. Everyone knows that Ivy students can coast once they get in. There are dozens of fine universities that have admission stats that are effectively the same as the Ivy’s that do a much better job of educating undergraduates. The bloom is off these schools and this is just the beginning.

Translation: My kid attends second-rung Chicago, Northwestern, WashU or Hopkins.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Ivies will always be special, they can't be surpassed -- there is no substitute for HUNDREDS of years of history and traditions. Especially now with every kid going to college and basically all universities being over-enrolled degree mills with no unique identity. Colleges are simply cookie-cutter homogenized businesses at this point, while Ivies remain a truly unique niche brand -- and keep small enrollment sizes and hyper-selectivity. No amount of money can replicate what the Ivies offer. Think about it, what would it take to try and "make" even a lower Ivy? Not that this sort of money realistically even exists, but say Jeff Bezos hypothetically doubled Vanderbilt's ($10bn to $20bn) or Williams' ($4bn to $8bn) endowments, are they suddenly Ivy tier in a few years? No, they're not.

The Ivy’s HAD unique identities. Now they are degree mills for students selected for any number of attributes (legacy, development case, First Gen, URM, athletic recruits) none of which have anything to do with academics. Why do they love test optional? Because it increases their application numbers and makes them look “selective” while they continue their social experiment without anyone questioning the qualifications of the students they are admitting. Everyone knows that Ivy students can coast once they get in. There are dozens of fine universities that have admission stats that are effectively the same as the Ivy’s that do a much better job of educating undergraduates. The bloom is off these schools and this is just the beginning.

Translation: My kid attends second-rung Chicago, Northwestern, WashU or Hopkins.

DP, but WashU? No one considers WashU in the company of those three other schools. The other three schools also happen to be better than at least 3 Ivies across a wide range of metrics and rankings, so it's a moot point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA

Hands down - UVA - the Harvard of the South

The Harvard of the South would be Duke

UVA is the Tufts of the South

UVA is much better than Tufts at its best.

[Anonymous]

Northwestern

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Ivies will always be special, they can't be surpassed -- there is no substitute for HUNDREDS of years of history and traditions. Especially now with every kid going to college and basically all universities being over-enrolled degree mills with no unique identity. Colleges are simply cookie-cutter homogenized businesses at this point, while Ivies remain a truly unique niche brand -- and keep small enrollment sizes and hyper-selectivity. No amount of money can replicate what the Ivies offer. Think about it, what would it take to try and "make" even a lower Ivy? Not that this sort of money realistically even exists, but say Jeff Bezos hypothetically doubled Vanderbilt's ($10bn to $20bn) or Williams' ($4bn to $8bn) endowments, are they suddenly Ivy tier in a few years? No, they're not.

Delusional, bet you this is a Cornell booster. No one like to shout "ivy" more than them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Ivies will always be special, they can't be surpassed -- there is no substitute for HUNDREDS of years of history and traditions. Especially now with every kid going to college and basically all universities being over-enrolled degree mills with no unique identity. Colleges are simply cookie-cutter homogenized businesses at this point, while Ivies remain a truly unique niche brand -- and keep small enrollment sizes and hyper-selectivity. No amount of money can replicate what the Ivies offer. Think about it, what would it take to try and "make" even a lower Ivy? Not that this sort of money realistically even exists, but say Jeff Bezos hypothetically doubled Vanderbilt's ($10bn to $20bn) or Williams' ($4bn to $8bn) endowments, are they suddenly Ivy tier in a few years? No, they're not.

Delusional, bet you this is a Cornell booster. No one like to shout "ivy" more than them.

Cornell brown Dartmouth

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Northwestern

There's like one or two people on here who have a veeeeeeery specific and obsessive hate-bon*r for Northwestern. It's very odd.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Ivies will always be special, they can't be surpassed -- there is no substitute for HUNDREDS of years of history and traditions. Especially now with every kid going to college and basically all universities being over-enrolled degree mills with no unique identity. Colleges are simply cookie-cutter homogenized businesses at this point, while Ivies remain a truly unique niche brand -- and keep small enrollment sizes and hyper-selectivity. No amount of money can replicate what the Ivies offer. Think about it, what would it take to try and "make" even a lower Ivy? Not that this sort of money realistically even exists, but say Jeff Bezos hypothetically doubled Vanderbilt's ($10bn to $20bn) or Williams' ($4bn to $8bn) endowments, are they suddenly Ivy tier in a few years? No, they're not.

Delusional, bet you this is a Cornell booster. No one like to shout "ivy" more than them.

Nah, in my experience Dartmouth and Penn grads are by far the most outwardly showy/insecure and pretentious. Cornell kids at least have a sense of humor about the whole thing (or, they're forced to).