UVA is the third or fourth best public university in the US depending upon which ranking service you read. And in the top 25 of all colleges and universities by USN&WR. |
Fixed it for you! |
I thought Duke is the Harvard of the South lol |
Both are terribly overrated, as evidenced by their need to define themselves as the "Harvard of" anything. |
Vanderbilt and Duke are not overrated or latecomers. As for Vanderbilt (because I know it best), it’s been ranked as a Top 25 at least since 1963 and has been a USNWR Top 25 college almost since inception (dating to the early 1980s). |
It's a Toop 25 but it and its boosters act like it's a Top 10. |
PP didn’t say Vandy was 25, but that it’s been in the Top 25 for decades. For the past decade it’s been more like 15. No one claims Vandy is Top 10. That said, many boosters of the Top 10 can’t seem to admit that Vanderbilt is a great school. Instead, they claim that Vanderbilt played the rankings game. Putting aside the notion that ALL schools try to maximize their ranking, moving to 15 from 25 over 40 years is hardly a shot to the top. To the contrary, it suggests steady progress. |
Get real. No school calls itself “The Harvard of ____” |
Vanderbilt is a great school. Also, more people need to realize that with more top stats kids applying to the same schools and frequently the same programs, they can’t all attend HPYSM. Thus, ivy-wannabes are trickling down to schools ranked 5-15/20. Consequently, Vanderbilt and other similarly ranked schools now have student and admission profiles similar to those of the very best schools. This is driving students and their parents to see these somewhat lower-ranked schools as essentially Ivy-quality. |
Those up for a little history might checkout Vanderbilt’s attempt in the 1950’s to start the Magnolia League, a counterpart to the Ivy League. The idea was for the two to play each other in sport. However, that idea ended when Vanderbilt beat Yale badly in a trial football game. The ML never took off because Duke wanted to keep its rivalry with UNC, and Rice and SMU wanted to maintain its ties to the Cotton Bowl. |
Funny because Cornell students can't even get into Vanderbilt anymore. |
Yeah, duh. |
Lol. This is not true. |
What ranking in 1963? |
Bowdoin |