Democratic Presidential Bench

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Anonymous wrote:We need a populist who will run on economic issues that will help working Americans without all the whole identity politics BS. Happy to vote for someone who is left of center on economics and a sane moderate or agnostic on the culture wars.

What exactly does that look like?

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Anonymous wrote:We need a populist who will run on economic issues that will help working Americans without all the whole identity politics BS. Happy to vote for someone who is left of center on economics and a sane moderate or agnostic on the culture wars.

What exactly does that look like?

Andrew Yang was actually approaching this, except he was not charismatic enough and needed a better economic solution than UBI. During the campaign, he avoided identity politics for the most part and didn't start drinking that koolaid until he got spanked and tried to pivot to become a more traditional politician.

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What about Tim Kaine?

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Interesting article here about what makes candidates appealing to working class voters, which democrats are having a tough time with. Tl;Dr is that woke/progressive language turns people off, but they respond favorably to normal/not-newspeak calls to end systemic racism. So democrats can push forward with their agenda but make it less new world order-y.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting article here about what makes candidates appealing to working class voters, which democrats are having a tough time with. Tl;Dr is that woke/progressive language turns people off, but they respond favorably to normal/not-newspeak calls to end systemic racism. So democrats can push forward with their agenda but make it less new world order-y.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/11/polling-data-kamala-harris-diversity-jargon-upper-class-professions.html

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Adam Schiff. Jamie Raskin, Tim Ryan, Eric Swalwell. All extremely intelligent, well spoken, passionate, and good human beings. He probably needs more seasoning, but there was a youngish Black representative on one of the impeachment teams who was extremely impressive. Can't remember his name. Whoever he is, he's someone to watch.

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Anonymous wrote:Adam Schiff. Jamie Raskin, Tim Ryan, Eric Swalwell. All extremely intelligent, well spoken, passionate, and good human beings. He probably needs more seasoning, but there was a youngish Black representative on one of the impeachment teams who was extremely impressive. Can't remember his name. Whoever he is, he's someone to watch.

I think you mean Joe Neguse, he is fabulous as is Jason Crow who’s another House member from Colorado. Ruben Gallego in Arizona is also great - I’m hoping he primaries Sinema in three years. I also love Chris Murphy. Adam Schiff is both demonized by the right and in his element at House intel and IMO won’t ever seek higher office. Tim Ryan is great but his 2020 run went nowhere and not sure where he goes if he loses his Ohio Senate race. I love Raskin but he’s too liberal to win a POTUS general election. The right is so busy lying about Swalwell that it might sink him.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread only makes me realize how 2024 is a near cert Democratic loss. None of these alternative names have any shot at winning the presidency. Biden was the Hail Mary because there was *no one else* and now with Biden increasingly gone, there is *no one else*. Most of these names are reflections of the bubble you live in, not a pragmatic understanding of the nature of mass appeal and national campaigns.

+1 Biden was the lowest common denominator candidate and wow did the democratic machine lurch into panicked overdrive when it appeared Bernie was gaining momentum and had a legitimate shot at the nomination. The machine selected Biden and there’s no way he’s going to make it to 2024 so yea, that bench is empty of national level candidates.

Jesus, I cannot with you people. Bernie is not and has never been a Democrat. So it should surprise exactly no one that the Democratic "machine" worked to boost Democratic candidates. And then there is the continuing belief that progressives are this enormous block in politics. They aren't. That is why Bernie lost twice.

Eh, fair enough but he did run in the democratic primary. Progressives are a fringe within the party but why are the moderates so scared of them?

Because we’re interested in winning elections?

Well that’s a stupid strategy because mainstream dems and independents reject the progressive BS.

You misunderstand. Anyone who is interested in winning general elections should be scared of the fringe progressives.

[Anonymous]

Democrats are about the to be out of power for several years. Their ideas are just plain bad. I’m sure republicans will mess up in 4-8 years and a more logical set of democrats will come back into power. Such is that circle of life.

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Anonymous wrote:Probably Newsom. He can win California on Super Tuesday and lock down the SF/tech money.

Ask any Californian who is not very far left and we all hate him with a passion.

Where did he go? Any key find out why he's quiet suddenly?

It's interesting the mandates didn't get implimented until after the recall election.

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Anonymous wrote:Adam Schiff. Jamie Raskin, Tim Ryan, Eric Swalwell. All extremely intelligent, well spoken, passionate, and good human beings. He probably needs more seasoning, but there was a youngish Black representative on one of the impeachment teams who was extremely impressive. Can't remember his name. Whoever he is, he's someone to watch.

I think you mean Joe Neguse, he is fabulous as is Jason Crow who’s another House member from Colorado. Ruben Gallego in Arizona is also great - I’m hoping he primaries Sinema in three years. I also love Chris Murphy. Adam Schiff is both demonized by the right and in his element at House intel and IMO won’t ever seek higher office. Tim Ryan is great but his 2020 run went nowhere and not sure where he goes if he loses his Ohio Senate race. I love Raskin but he’s too liberal to win a POTUS general election. The right is so busy lying about Swalwell that it might sink him.

Yes! Joe Neguse. He has (or at least should have) a great future. I don't know anything about Crow or Gallego. Murphy is great. My personal favorite is Jamie Raskin, Not only is he hugely talented, but he showed incredible grace under pressure after the passing of his son. If he can handle that and still show up for work, then he can handle anything.

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Anonymous wrote:Democrats are about the to be out of power for several years. Their ideas are just plain bad. I’m sure republicans will mess up in 4-8 years and a more logical set of democrats will come back into power. Such is that circle of life.

Their ideas are just plain popular but do go on with your logic.

https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/monmouthpoll_us_111021/

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Anonymous wrote:Democrats are about the to be out of power for several years. Their ideas are just plain bad. I’m sure republicans will mess up in 4-8 years and a more logical set of democrats will come back into power. Such is that circle of life.

Their ideas are just plain popular but do go on with your logic.

https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/monmouthpoll_us_111021/

Nothing to fear then! The dems can keep going like they are going, it seems.

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Anonymous wrote:Adam Schiff. Jamie Raskin, Tim Ryan, Eric Swalwell. All extremely intelligent, well spoken, passionate, and good human beings. He probably needs more seasoning, but there was a youngish Black representative on one of the impeachment teams who was extremely impressive. Can't remember his name. Whoever he is, he's someone to watch.

Schiff relentlessly peddled the Russia collusion story and repeatedly said he had concrete proof. The guy is an utter buffoon with zero credibility. Swalwell will never live down Feng Feng. I mean seriously, you couldn’t have identified two more unelectable clowns. If they’re emblematic of the Democratic Party then it’s doomed and rightfully so.

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Anonymous wrote:Democrats are about the to be out of power for several years. Their ideas are just plain bad. I’m sure republicans will mess up in 4-8 years and a more logical set of democrats will come back into power. Such is that circle of life.

Yes, GOP messes up, Dems clean up. Why can't more people see that pattern?