Excellent podcast from Politico from youngkin strategists on how they won — must read/listen

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Anonymous wrote:Youngkin’s win was due to good old fashioned Southern Strategy. They can try to dress it up all that want, but it doesn’t change reality.

I have no doubt this makes you feel better about the terrible campaign McAuliffe waged, but it is both delusional and self-defeating. Wise up.

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Excuse after ridiculous excuse... when are Dems going to simply admit no one wanted what they were selling? People are on to them.

You're right -- why WOULD racists want to become actual decent human beings with real morals & ethics, rather than that weaponized version they use touting out God in every argument? 🤔

And there’s the race card on cue. A lot of what the Dems have done makes it hard to believe they support brown children. The messaging is that those kids are too dumb to succeed so we’ll lower the bars and demoralizes the kids. When my kids was in first grade he came home telling me that all the positivity project type stuff was done because teachers don’t think he and his schoolmates can get into college. SMH.

They won't be able to get a government ID either, so they will never be able to vote.

Thank you for the additional examples of the hyperbole being spouted off.

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Anonymous wrote:Youngkin’s win was due to good old fashioned Southern Strategy. They can try to dress it up all that want, but it doesn’t change reality.

I have no doubt this makes you feel better about the terrible campaign McAuliffe waged, but it is both delusional and self-defeating. Wise up.

+100
Excuse after ridiculous excuse... when are Dems going to simply admit no one wanted what they were selling? People are on to them.

You're right -- why WOULD racists want to become actual decent human beings with real morals & ethics, rather than that weaponized version they use touting out God in every argument? 🤔

And there’s the race card on cue. A lot of what the Dems have done makes it hard to believe they support brown children. The messaging is that those kids are too dumb to succeed so we’ll lower the bars and demoralizes the kids. When my kids was in first grade he came home telling me that all the positivity project type stuff was done because teachers don’t think he and his schoolmates can get into college. SMH.

Didn’t happen.

It absolutely did happen. I was stunned. You don’t know my kid. That was 6 years ago. You should ask his former teachers. Heck, you can ask his current teachers.

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Anonymous wrote:It's pretty easy.

Youngkin played the aw-shucks southern gentlemen while the right wing echo chamber pounded CRT and other BS through its media outlets and social media promotion.

Yes, make up a fake issue (CRT) that will bring the citizens out with their pitchforks. They will get caught up in the fever and disconnect their brains. They will vote to stop the fake issue.

Stop sock puppeting.

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Anonymous wrote:It was the fleece vest.

Nothing more to say or hyper analyze. Done.

LOL

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Anonymous wrote:I am so sick of the whining over "they closed the schools!!!" The schools were re-opened long before election day. The worst that could be said was that the Democrats were too cautious in responding to a 100-year pandemic that was killing thousands of people. And because of that you stick us with Youngkin?

You're a bunch of Karens.

And you are an idiot who will watch as the Democrats lose the presidency.

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Anonymous wrote:Youngkin’s win was due to good old fashioned Southern Strategy. They can try to dress it up all that want, but it doesn’t change reality.

I have no doubt this makes you feel better about the terrible campaign McAuliffe waged, but it is both delusional and self-defeating. Wise up.

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Excuse after ridiculous excuse... when are Dems going to simply admit no one wanted what they were selling? People are on to them.

Given that nearly half of Virginia voters cast a ballot for McAuliffe, I’d say a lot of people preferred McAuliffe to Youngkin. You’re acting like the election was a blow-out when in reality Youngkin won by less than 2 points.

Democrats blew an easy win with a well known candidate in a state that was sharply trending blue a year ago. But it's okay. I don't expect most Democrats to understand how much they are alienating the middle until after they lose in 2024, hopefully not to Trump.

From day one, no one thought McAuliffe would be an easy win this year. You are rewriting history.

You can get an idea of what people thought from predictit's 90 day chart
https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/7001/Which-party-will-win-the-2021-Virginia-gubernatorial-election

McAuliffe was the heavy favorite (and leading in the polls) until the last week or two.

But at this point, I am not surprised at progressives trying to rewrite history so that they don't have to change course.

Thinking someone is more likely to win isn’t the same thing as saying it would be an easy win. If you thinking the most likely scenario is candidate A winning by 1.2 points, then you can, at the same time, believe A will win but that it will be a close race and therefore not “easy.”

This is why the implications of polling and statistical analysis is lost on so many laypeople. Odds of winning and magnitude of lead are not the same thing.

This is just a condescending way to say your personal fact-free opinion trumps actual evidence.

DP. Did you mean to respond to a different post? Your comment makes no sense given that pp was talking about interpretation of data, polling, statistics, etc.

Republicans think that data and math are “different opinions”.

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Anonymous wrote:Dems blew it by keeping schools closed for an unreasonably long time, losing suburban women swing voters. They lost me too, and im a lifelong democrat in DC who hates Trump. Wheres the alternative in our party? Do better, Dems.

You're selfish and pathetic. There's a great big world out there, and not everything revolves around your snowflakes.

And you think this kind of reaction represents a good electoral strategy???

I don't care. No so-called "lifelong democrat" turns on the party and supports Youngkin on the single issue of schools being closed for too long WHEN THEY WERE LONG AGO REOPENED.

You really, really don't get it. Many Democratic voters value education and have voted for Democrats in the past specifically because of education, in many cases understanding that they are voting in tax hikes, more onerous regulations on business, and probably less competent foreign policy when they did so. They value education and are willing to take the hit on other areas for the sake of education.

Then the pandemic happened and suddenly it became glaringly obvious that the Democrats do not value education, but instead only value the money and votes that the education complex reliably deliver to Democratic candidates. People who trusted that Democratic candidates would prioritize the education of children saw the truth of the matter, and saw just how little the Democrats care about the education of children. And with that, one of the big reasons to vote Democrat disappeared.

That now means that voters need to evaluate the rest of the equation. For a lot of voters, that calculation still results in a Democrat: things like access to abortion, climate change, etc. But for many voters, they voted Democrat because of education, and without faith in Democrats on education, they find themselves without a real political home. This also figured in the low Democrat turnout. McAuliffe lost because core voters didn't bother voting. Why? They probably could not bring themselves to vote Republican but they couldn't stomach voting for the Democrats either, after watching the very clear messages the Democrats sent on how much the Democratic establishment does not care about educating children.

You can deride all of this if you want. But if the Democrats don't stop shaking their fists impotently at the sky at how voters don't trust them with education matters, they're going to lose again and again. Education is a core driver of Democrat voters. If you as a candidate signal over and over and over again that you do not care about educating kids and you only value the political money and votes of the education complex, you will lose a lot of voters. They might not vote Republican. But they won't vote for you, either.

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Anonymous wrote:I argued at the time that Jennifer McClellan was the only Democratic candidate who stood to defeat Youngkin. McAuliffe was clearly a washed-up hack and the other Democratic candidates were preposterous: Carroll Foy’s campaign was entirely about her race and gender and Carter was an immature, nutty socialist. Unfortunately for the Democrats, they let McAuliffe buy the nomination, only to confront someone with more money and infinitely better political instincts.

You're kidding right? She was loud and proud about keeping schools closed last year. I voted for Terry very reluctantly and considered abstaining. If McClellan was on the ticket I would have voted for Youngkin. https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=962167550855047

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Youngkin’s win was due to good old fashioned Southern Strategy. They can try to dress it up all that want, but it doesn’t change reality.

I have no doubt this makes you feel better about the terrible campaign McAuliffe waged, but it is both delusional and self-defeating. Wise up.

+100
Excuse after ridiculous excuse... when are Dems going to simply admit no one wanted what they were selling? People are on to them.

You're right -- why WOULD racists want to become actual decent human beings with real morals & ethics, rather than that weaponized version they use touting out God in every argument? 🤔

And there’s the race card on cue. A lot of what the Dems have done makes it hard to believe they support brown children. The messaging is that those kids are too dumb to succeed so we’ll lower the bars and demoralizes the kids. When my kids was in first grade he came home telling me that all the positivity project type stuff was done because teachers don’t think he and his schoolmates can get into college. SMH.

Didn’t happen.

It absolutely did happen. I was stunned. You don’t know my kid. That was 6 years ago. You should ask his former teachers. Heck, you can ask his current teachers.

Sure, just let us know in what school system a first grade teacher told students they wouldn’t be able to go college because of the color of their skin.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Youngkin’s win was due to good old fashioned Southern Strategy. They can try to dress it up all that want, but it doesn’t change reality.

I have no doubt this makes you feel better about the terrible campaign McAuliffe waged, but it is both delusional and self-defeating. Wise up.

+100
Excuse after ridiculous excuse... when are Dems going to simply admit no one wanted what they were selling? People are on to them.

You're right -- why WOULD racists want to become actual decent human beings with real morals & ethics, rather than that weaponized version they use touting out God in every argument? 🤔

And there’s the race card on cue. A lot of what the Dems have done makes it hard to believe they support brown children. The messaging is that those kids are too dumb to succeed so we’ll lower the bars and demoralizes the kids. When my kids was in first grade he came home telling me that all the positivity project type stuff was done because teachers don’t think he and his schoolmates can get into college. SMH.

Didn’t happen.

It absolutely did happen. I was stunned. You don’t know my kid. That was 6 years ago. You should ask his former teachers. Heck, you can ask his current teachers.

Sure, just let us know in what school system a first grade teacher told students they wouldn’t be able to go college because of the color of their skin.

DP. Are you actually disbelieving that a teacher could be overtly racist? Wtf?

Man, Democrat true believers are wild.

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Anonymous wrote:I am so sick of the whining over "they closed the schools!!!" The schools were re-opened long before election day. The worst that could be said was that the Democrats were too cautious in responding to a 100-year pandemic that was killing thousands of people. And because of that you stick us with Youngkin?

You're a bunch of Karens.

And you are an idiot who will watch as the Democrats lose the presidency.

So you are saying it’s time for Ds to go low if they want to win?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dems blew it by keeping schools closed for an unreasonably long time, losing suburban women swing voters. They lost me too, and im a lifelong democrat in DC who hates Trump. Wheres the alternative in our party? Do better, Dems.

You're selfish and pathetic. There's a great big world out there, and not everything revolves around your snowflakes.

And you think this kind of reaction represents a good electoral strategy???

I don't care. No so-called "lifelong democrat" turns on the party and supports Youngkin on the single issue of schools being closed for too long WHEN THEY WERE LONG AGO REOPENED.

You really, really don't get it. Many Democratic voters value education and have voted for Democrats in the past specifically because of education, in many cases understanding that they are voting in tax hikes, more onerous regulations on business, and probably less competent foreign policy when they did so. They value education and are willing to take the hit on other areas for the sake of education.

Then the pandemic happened and suddenly it became glaringly obvious that the Democrats do not value education, but instead only value the money and votes that the education complex reliably deliver to Democratic candidates. People who trusted that Democratic candidates would prioritize the education of children saw the truth of the matter, and saw just how little the Democrats care about the education of children. And with that, one of the big reasons to vote Democrat disappeared.

That now means that voters need to evaluate the rest of the equation. For a lot of voters, that calculation still results in a Democrat: things like access to abortion, climate change, etc. But for many voters, they voted Democrat because of education, and without faith in Democrats on education, they find themselves without a real political home. This also figured in the low Democrat turnout. McAuliffe lost because core voters didn't bother voting. Why? They probably could not bring themselves to vote Republican but they couldn't stomach voting for the Democrats either, after watching the very clear messages the Democrats sent on how much the Democratic establishment does not care about educating children.

You can deride all of this if you want. But if the Democrats don't stop shaking their fists impotently at the sky at how voters don't trust them with education matters, they're going to lose again and again. Education is a core driver of Democrat voters. If you as a candidate signal over and over and over again that you do not care about educating kids and you only value the political money and votes of the education complex, you will lose a lot of voters. They might not vote Republican. But they won't vote for you, either.

Well said.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am so sick of the whining over "they closed the schools!!!" The schools were re-opened long before election day. The worst that could be said was that the Democrats were too cautious in responding to a 100-year pandemic that was killing thousands of people. And because of that you stick us with Youngkin?

You're a bunch of Karens.

And you are an idiot who will watch as the Democrats lose the presidency.

So you are saying it’s time for Ds to go low if they want to win?

Insulting voters doesn't seem like a winning strategy to me, but that does seem to be the Democratic approach these days.

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Anonymous wrote:It's pretty easy.

Youngkin played the aw-shucks southern gentlemen while the right wing echo chamber pounded CRT and other BS through its media outlets and social media promotion.

+1

*2 Not exactly a deep thinker.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Youngkin’s win was due to good old fashioned Southern Strategy. They can try to dress it up all that want, but it doesn’t change reality.

I have no doubt this makes you feel better about the terrible campaign McAuliffe waged, but it is both delusional and self-defeating. Wise up.

+100
Excuse after ridiculous excuse... when are Dems going to simply admit no one wanted what they were selling? People are on to them.

Given that nearly half of Virginia voters cast a ballot for McAuliffe, I’d say a lot of people preferred McAuliffe to Youngkin. You’re acting like the election was a blow-out when in reality Youngkin won by less than 2 points.

Democrats blew an easy win with a well known candidate in a state that was sharply trending blue a year ago. But it's okay. I don't expect most Democrats to understand how much they are alienating the middle until after they lose in 2024, hopefully not to Trump.

From day one, no one thought McAuliffe would be an easy win this year. You are rewriting history.

The plethora of political experts on DCUM with the “Yawn” and +8 T-Mac predictions or whatever sure did!

Maybe they don't realize that historically Virginia votes for a governor in the opposite party of whomever is in the White House at the time, except for 1 time in the past 10 elections.