ACPS now closed for the entire thanksgiving week

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Probably. I really don't think it's a "decompress" issue as much as it's a "can't find subs because we're paying shit wages" issue, though.

Right I agree. I really think they just need to tell teachers they can't take off though. I mean it is that way in any public facing job. You need coverage. I dont blame teachers for asking, I blame admit for granting. They need to be better/stronger managers.

Treating teachers like crap will help how, exactly?

That's not treating them like crap. That's treating them like professionals who don't get to skip a week of work because there is a holiday.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Probably. I really don't think it's a "decompress" issue as much as it's a "can't find subs because we're paying shit wages" issue, though.

Right I agree. I really think they just need to tell teachers they can't take off though. I mean it is that way in any public facing job. You need coverage. I dont blame teachers for asking, I blame admit for granting. They need to be better/stronger managers.

Treating teachers like crap will help how, exactly?

That's not treating them like crap. That's treating them like professionals who don't get to skip a week of work because there is a holiday.

No one is skipping a week of work. There were 3 days built into the schedule. Stop being dumb.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

It has been an unbelievably stressful year. We all feel pushed to the breaking point. The lack of subs means that none of us have had a regular classroom, without extra kids split up from an absent teacher's classroom, in over a month. The general feeling is that this is a sign that what we're doing is valued even if we aren't being treated respectfully by parents. It means a lot.

What do you mean, treated respectfully? Are you viewing people's distress over a last minute decision to provide additional days off, with no childcare provisions or assistance, as disrespect to you? If so, why? Do you feel that respect necessarily encompasses additional days off, with no coverage, and people being happy about how that lack of coverage impacts them? Or is there a separate lack of respect that you are referencing?

Lack of respect is what is being shown towards parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Probably. I really don't think it's a "decompress" issue as much as it's a "can't find subs because we're paying shit wages" issue, though.

Right I agree. I really think they just need to tell teachers they can't take off though. I mean it is that way in any public facing job. You need coverage. I dont blame teachers for asking, I blame admit for granting. They need to be better/stronger managers.

Treating teachers like crap will help how, exactly?

That's not treating them like crap. That's treating them like professionals who don't get to skip a week of work because there is a holiday.

No one is skipping a week of work. There were 3 days built into the schedule. Stop being dumb.

Snows days.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Probably. I really don't think it's a "decompress" issue as much as it's a "can't find subs because we're paying shit wages" issue, though.

Right I agree. I really think they just need to tell teachers they can't take off though. I mean it is that way in any public facing job. You need coverage. I dont blame teachers for asking, I blame admit for granting. They need to be better/stronger managers.

Treating teachers like crap will help how, exactly?

That's not treating them like crap. That's treating them like professionals who don't get to skip a week of work because there is a holiday.

No one is skipping a week of work. There were 3 days built into the schedule. Stop being dumb.

I hope you don't have or work around children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Probably. I really don't think it's a "decompress" issue as much as it's a "can't find subs because we're paying shit wages" issue, though.

Right I agree. I really think they just need to tell teachers they can't take off though. I mean it is that way in any public facing job. You need coverage. I dont blame teachers for asking, I blame admit for granting. They need to be better/stronger managers.

Treating teachers like crap will help how, exactly?

That's not treating them like crap. That's treating them like professionals who don't get to skip a week of work because there is a holiday.

Actually they get annual leave and if they choose to use it for Thanksgiving its their right. Just like its the parents right to take off and take their kids out of school. They aren't your free babysitters.

[Anonymous]

I'm encouraging my kids to go into teaching. So much free time off! What a dream!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It has been an unbelievably stressful year. We all feel pushed to the breaking point. The lack of subs means that none of us have had a regular classroom, without extra kids split up from an absent teacher's classroom, in over a month. The general feeling is that this is a sign that what we're doing is valued even if we aren't being treated respectfully by parents. It means a lot.

What do you mean, treated respectfully? Are you viewing people's distress over a last minute decision to provide additional days off, with no childcare provisions or assistance, as disrespect to you? If so, why? Do you feel that respect necessarily encompasses additional days off, with no coverage, and people being happy about how that lack of coverage impacts them? Or is there a separate lack of respect that you are referencing?

Lack of respect is what is being shown towards parents.

Lack of respect? No, they are giving you enough time to take leave, get a friend/family to watch your kids or get child care. School is not child care.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Probably. I really don't think it's a "decompress" issue as much as it's a "can't find subs because we're paying shit wages" issue, though.

Right I agree. I really think they just need to tell teachers they can't take off though. I mean it is that way in any public facing job. You need coverage. I dont blame teachers for asking, I blame admit for granting. They need to be better/stronger managers.

Treating teachers like crap will help how, exactly?

That's not treating them like crap. That's treating them like professionals who don't get to skip a week of work because there is a holiday.

Actually they get annual leave and if they choose to use it for Thanksgiving its their right. Just like its the parents right to take off and take their kids out of school. They aren't your free babysitters.

Do they get annual leave? I only ask because I’m FCPS only administrators earn annual leave.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Probably. I really don't think it's a "decompress" issue as much as it's a "can't find subs because we're paying shit wages" issue, though.

Right I agree. I really think they just need to tell teachers they can't take off though. I mean it is that way in any public facing job. You need coverage. I dont blame teachers for asking, I blame admit for granting. They need to be better/stronger managers.

Treating teachers like crap will help how, exactly?

That's not treating them like crap. That's treating them like professionals who don't get to skip a week of work because there is a holiday.

Actually they get annual leave and if they choose to use it for Thanksgiving its their right. Just like its the parents right to take off and take their kids out of school. They aren't your free babysitters.

No one is asking them to baby sit. I am asking them to you know, teach.

[Anonymous]

*in FCPS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It has been an unbelievably stressful year. We all feel pushed to the breaking point. The lack of subs means that none of us have had a regular classroom, without extra kids split up from an absent teacher's classroom, in over a month. The general feeling is that this is a sign that what we're doing is valued even if we aren't being treated respectfully by parents. It means a lot.

What do you mean, treated respectfully? Are you viewing people's distress over a last minute decision to provide additional days off, with no childcare provisions or assistance, as disrespect to you? If so, why? Do you feel that respect necessarily encompasses additional days off, with no coverage, and people being happy about how that lack of coverage impacts them? Or is there a separate lack of respect that you are referencing?

Lack of respect is what is being shown towards parents.

Lack of respect? No, they are giving you enough time to take leave, get a friend/family to watch your kids or get child care. School is not child care.

Some of you are so stuck on "babysitting." Am I the only one who wants my kids to learn?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To let people decompress or something. I am sure it is very easy for working families to decompress as they scramble to find care on a holiday week.

Do you think APS and Fairfax will follow?

I’m in fairfax but I would be so posies. They missed so much school
Last year. Can we please just move forward and educate my child.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To let people decompress or something. I am sure it is very easy for working families to decompress as they scramble to find care on a holiday week.

Do you think APS and Fairfax will follow?

I’m in fairfax but I would be so posies. They missed so much school
Last year. Can we please just move forward and educate my child.

You need to prepare yourself because it’s probably going to happen in FCPS too. Staffing is a local and nationwide issue, no district isn’t experiencing it. It will get worse as more of us burn out and leave and no new teachers choose to enter the field. I have so much worry about where public education is headed. The system cannot sustain the strain it’s under.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To let people decompress or something. I am sure it is very easy for working families to decompress as they scramble to find care on a holiday week.

Do you think APS and Fairfax will follow?

I’m in fairfax but I would be so posies. They missed so much school
Last year. Can we please just move forward and educate my child.

Yeah I don't know about you all, but my kids had approximately 500 days at home already recently sooooo.....we don't want more of them. Just want my kid educated. Solve the problem by:
1) paying subs what they deserve
2) setting protocol about who gets to request leave around holidays, and under what conditions it will be granted.
3) stop being sleazy and disingenuous in covering over the real problem