Choosing between VDA ECNL and FCV GA

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Anonymous wrote:tons of variables including commute distance, but here are a few thoughts

Loudoun - huge club so very political, underperforms at ECNL level which would make me evaluate coaching carefully. It really comes down to the coach
FCV - good track record at producing competitive teams and college placement, questionable culture, questionable ability to draw elite talent in future with GA only, practice locations uncertain
McLean - good track record at college placement, declining ability to attract and develop talent due to dilution, moderately competitive on average. A lock to stay in ECNL
VDA - up and comers of the bunch, middling placement history. remote location, polarizing ECNL coaching
BRYC - hit hard by coaching defections (and players), least competitive ECNL program currently, faithful following. Significant potential for a merger in the future

for us, it would boil down to who would the coach be, because that will determine a players progress more than the club. There are coaches we would avoid like the plague but you should develop your own opinions. Highly recommend going to see how they operate at practice and at games.

This is fantastic information! Thank you very much. This has piqued my interest (VDA - up-and-comers with a mediocre placement history). Please elaborate, polarizing ECNL coaching.

VDA has only recently started placing players in D1 colleges in high numbers, depending on the age groups you could get a very good coach or a bad coach.

What characterizes a lousy coach? What has changed in the program to make them the number one destination if they are now placing all of their players in D1 institutions and training is good?

Go to training and watch.

I feel I am capable of doing that; however, whose age groups should I target and where should I go for the schedule?

Game schedules are online for the most part. I would try to see a cross section of ages if I could so that I could see more than one coach. Getting training times is harder, but if you're after the clandestine approach, you could just go to the field on a weds or thurs at 7 pm and almost be guaranteed there will be an ecnl team training. You may have to do some sleuthing to figure out which age group and coach you're watching.

Alternatively, you can contact the coaches directly and ask to come see a session. Now is a great time to do this, outside of the tryout period. This may all sound like a PITA, but if you're serious about finding the best environment for your player, it will pay off. It is best to avoid lost years if you can avoid it with a few hours of research.

I'd like to observe the U8, U6, and U19 teams because I'm curious to see if the coaching staffs follow a curriculum and how they progress together.

Sorry, but this is a bit absurd.

1. VDA starts at u13. Their feeder clubs are PWSI and VSA. They each have rec programs, which is what U8 and U6 essentially are.
2. FCV has a practically non-existent rec program. You should have gathered that when it was stated earlier that they have almost no youth player pool.
3. What is taught at U6 is not even close to U19 and to want to see both as a basis of curriculum follow through is borderline ridiculous.

Sorry for being harsh but this needs to be nipped in the bud.

So you think it's absurd because you don't understand my methods? I'd like to know how old your child is. My child will soon be entering one of these programs, and we will choose a club based on the curriculum and recruiting commitments. I used to be a student athlete (in a different sport), but I know I won't waste my time looking for victories like many families do. That, once again, is not my ultimate goal. And what do you mean by "nip it in the bud"? Any parent who has a child who participates in sports must be concerned about all age groups and how the curriculum translates at each level. That is how you can determine whether a program is worthwhile.

Yes, it is absurd to believe that any sort of club rec curriculum at 5-7 years old is anything more than playing sharks and minnows mixed with some cone dribbling drills followed by a scrimmage and a hearty juice box.

You will find no program at this age that offers more than introductory fun.

You also fail to take into account the tremendous player turnover that occurs over the years. Half the kids playing at that age will not even bother to pursue travel soccer not to mention stick with the club through the entirety of their “curriculum” through U19.

The ECNL team at U13 will likely be turned over by 50% before U15.

But by all means worry about college commitments at a club, one of which is younger than your own DD, before you even know if she is even good at soccer.

Yeah, you’re a clown. Neither club is even 19 years old themselves and you want to know how they follow through on their curriculum. Lol.

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Anonymous wrote:tons of variables including commute distance, but here are a few thoughts

Loudoun - huge club so very political, underperforms at ECNL level which would make me evaluate coaching carefully. It really comes down to the coach
FCV - good track record at producing competitive teams and college placement, questionable culture, questionable ability to draw elite talent in future with GA only, practice locations uncertain
McLean - good track record at college placement, declining ability to attract and develop talent due to dilution, moderately competitive on average. A lock to stay in ECNL
VDA - up and comers of the bunch, middling placement history. remote location, polarizing ECNL coaching
BRYC - hit hard by coaching defections (and players), least competitive ECNL program currently, faithful following. Significant potential for a merger in the future

for us, it would boil down to who would the coach be, because that will determine a players progress more than the club. There are coaches we would avoid like the plague but you should develop your own opinions. Highly recommend going to see how they operate at practice and at games.

This is fantastic information! Thank you very much. This has piqued my interest (VDA - up-and-comers with a mediocre placement history). Please elaborate, polarizing ECNL coaching.

VDA has only recently started placing players in D1 colleges in high numbers, depending on the age groups you could get a very good coach or a bad coach.

What characterizes a lousy coach? What has changed in the program to make them the number one destination if they are now placing all of their players in D1 institutions and training is good?

Go to training and watch.

I feel I am capable of doing that; however, whose age groups should I target and where should I go for the schedule?

Game schedules are online for the most part. I would try to see a cross section of ages if I could so that I could see more than one coach. Getting training times is harder, but if you're after the clandestine approach, you could just go to the field on a weds or thurs at 7 pm and almost be guaranteed there will be an ecnl team training. You may have to do some sleuthing to figure out which age group and coach you're watching.

Alternatively, you can contact the coaches directly and ask to come see a session. Now is a great time to do this, outside of the tryout period. This may all sound like a PITA, but if you're serious about finding the best environment for your player, it will pay off. It is best to avoid lost years if you can avoid it with a few hours of research.

I'd like to observe the U8, U6, and U19 teams because I'm curious to see if the coaching staffs follow a curriculum and how they progress together.

Sorry, but this is a bit absurd.

1. VDA starts at u13. Their feeder clubs are PWSI and VSA. They each have rec programs, which is what U8 and U6 essentially are.
2. FCV has a practically non-existent rec program. You should have gathered that when it was stated earlier that they have almost no youth player pool.
3. What is taught at U6 is not even close to U19 and to want to see both as a basis of curriculum follow through is borderline ridiculous.

Sorry for being harsh but this needs to be nipped in the bud.

So you think it's absurd because you don't understand my methods? I'd like to know how old your child is. My child will soon be entering one of these programs, and we will choose a club based on the curriculum and recruiting commitments. I used to be a student athlete (in a different sport), but I know I won't waste my time looking for victories like many families do. That, once again, is not my ultimate goal. And what do you mean by "nip it in the bud"? Any parent who has a child who participates in sports must be concerned about all age groups and how the curriculum translates at each level. That is how you can determine whether a program is worthwhile.

Yes, it is absurd to believe that any sort of club rec curriculum at 5-7 years old is anything more than playing sharks and minnows mixed with some cone dribbling drills followed by a scrimmage and a hearty juice box.

You will find no program at this age that offers more than introductory fun.

You also fail to take into account the tremendous player turnover that occurs over the years. Half the kids playing at that age will not even bother to pursue travel soccer not to mention stick with the club through the entirety of their “curriculum” through U19.

The ECNL team at U13 will likely be turned over by 50% before U15.

But by all means worry about college commitments at a club, one of which is younger than your own DD, before you even know if she is even good at soccer.

Yeah, you’re a clown. Neither club is even 19 years old themselves and you want to know how they follow through on their curriculum. Lol.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:tons of variables including commute distance, but here are a few thoughts

Loudoun - huge club so very political, underperforms at ECNL level which would make me evaluate coaching carefully. It really comes down to the coach
FCV - good track record at producing competitive teams and college placement, questionable culture, questionable ability to draw elite talent in future with GA only, practice locations uncertain
McLean - good track record at college placement, declining ability to attract and develop talent due to dilution, moderately competitive on average. A lock to stay in ECNL
VDA - up and comers of the bunch, middling placement history. remote location, polarizing ECNL coaching
BRYC - hit hard by coaching defections (and players), least competitive ECNL program currently, faithful following. Significant potential for a merger in the future

for us, it would boil down to who would the coach be, because that will determine a players progress more than the club. There are coaches we would avoid like the plague but you should develop your own opinions. Highly recommend going to see how they operate at practice and at games.

This is fantastic information! Thank you very much. This has piqued my interest (VDA - up-and-comers with a mediocre placement history). Please elaborate, polarizing ECNL coaching.

VDA has only recently started placing players in D1 colleges in high numbers, depending on the age groups you could get a very good coach or a bad coach.

What characterizes a lousy coach? What has changed in the program to make them the number one destination if they are now placing all of their players in D1 institutions and training is good?

Go to training and watch.

I feel I am capable of doing that; however, whose age groups should I target and where should I go for the schedule?

Game schedules are online for the most part. I would try to see a cross section of ages if I could so that I could see more than one coach. Getting training times is harder, but if you're after the clandestine approach, you could just go to the field on a weds or thurs at 7 pm and almost be guaranteed there will be an ecnl team training. You may have to do some sleuthing to figure out which age group and coach you're watching.

Alternatively, you can contact the coaches directly and ask to come see a session. Now is a great time to do this, outside of the tryout period. This may all sound like a PITA, but if you're serious about finding the best environment for your player, it will pay off. It is best to avoid lost years if you can avoid it with a few hours of research.

I'd like to observe the U8, U6, and U19 teams because I'm curious to see if the coaching staffs follow a curriculum and how they progress together.

Sorry, but this is a bit absurd.

1. VDA starts at u13. Their feeder clubs are PWSI and VSA. They each have rec programs, which is what U8 and U6 essentially are.
2. FCV has a practically non-existent rec program. You should have gathered that when it was stated earlier that they have almost no youth player pool.
3. What is taught at U6 is not even close to U19 and to want to see both as a basis of curriculum follow through is borderline ridiculous.

Sorry for being harsh but this needs to be nipped in the bud.

So you think it's absurd because you don't understand my methods? I'd like to know how old your child is. My child will soon be entering one of these programs, and we will choose a club based on the curriculum and recruiting commitments. I used to be a student athlete (in a different sport), but I know I won't waste my time looking for victories like many families do. That, once again, is not my ultimate goal. And what do you mean by "nip it in the bud"? Any parent who has a child who participates in sports must be concerned about all age groups and how the curriculum translates at each level. That is how you can determine whether a program is worthwhile.

Yes, it is absurd to believe that any sort of club rec curriculum at 5-7 years old is anything more than playing sharks and minnows mixed with some cone dribbling drills followed by a scrimmage and a hearty juice box.

You will find no program at this age that offers more than introductory fun.

You also fail to take into account the tremendous player turnover that occurs over the years. Half the kids playing at that age will not even bother to pursue travel soccer not to mention stick with the club through the entirety of their “curriculum” through U19.

The ECNL team at U13 will likely be turned over by 50% before U15.

But by all means worry about college commitments at a club, one of which is younger than your own DD, before you even know if she is even good at soccer.

Yeah, you’re a clown. Neither club is even 19 years old themselves and you want to know how they follow through on their curriculum. Lol.

+1

While maybe a little harsh to hear for some, that last post was 100% true.

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Anonymous wrote:tons of variables including commute distance, but here are a few thoughts

Loudoun - huge club so very political, underperforms at ECNL level which would make me evaluate coaching carefully. It really comes down to the coach
FCV - good track record at producing competitive teams and college placement, questionable culture, questionable ability to draw elite talent in future with GA only, practice locations uncertain
McLean - good track record at college placement, declining ability to attract and develop talent due to dilution, moderately competitive on average. A lock to stay in ECNL
VDA - up and comers of the bunch, middling placement history. remote location, polarizing ECNL coaching
BRYC - hit hard by coaching defections (and players), least competitive ECNL program currently, faithful following. Significant potential for a merger in the future

for us, it would boil down to who would the coach be, because that will determine a players progress more than the club. There are coaches we would avoid like the plague but you should develop your own opinions. Highly recommend going to see how they operate at practice and at games.

VDA has one top 3 team in ECNL Midatlatic division. Unless your DD is in the same age group as that team, I would steer clear from VDA.

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Anonymous wrote:tons of variables including commute distance, but here are a few thoughts

Loudoun - huge club so very political, underperforms at ECNL level which would make me evaluate coaching carefully. It really comes down to the coach
FCV - good track record at producing competitive teams and college placement, questionable culture, questionable ability to draw elite talent in future with GA only, practice locations uncertain
McLean - good track record at college placement, declining ability to attract and develop talent due to dilution, moderately competitive on average. A lock to stay in ECNL
VDA - up and comers of the bunch, middling placement history. remote location, polarizing ECNL coaching
BRYC - hit hard by coaching defections (and players), least competitive ECNL program currently, faithful following. Significant potential for a merger in the future

for us, it would boil down to who would the coach be, because that will determine a players progress more than the club. There are coaches we would avoid like the plague but you should develop your own opinions. Highly recommend going to see how they operate at practice and at games.

This is fantastic information! Thank you very much. This has piqued my interest (VDA - up-and-comers with a mediocre placement history). Please elaborate, polarizing ECNL coaching.

VDA has only recently started placing players in D1 colleges in high numbers, depending on the age groups you could get a very good coach or a bad coach.

What characterizes a lousy coach? What has changed in the program to make them the number one destination if they are now placing all of their players in D1 institutions and training is good?

Go to training and watch.

I feel I am capable of doing that; however, whose age groups should I target and where should I go for the schedule?

Game schedules are online for the most part. I would try to see a cross section of ages if I could so that I could see more than one coach. Getting training times is harder, but if you're after the clandestine approach, you could just go to the field on a weds or thurs at 7 pm and almost be guaranteed there will be an ecnl team training. You may have to do some sleuthing to figure out which age group and coach you're watching.

Alternatively, you can contact the coaches directly and ask to come see a session. Now is a great time to do this, outside of the tryout period. This may all sound like a PITA, but if you're serious about finding the best environment for your player, it will pay off. It is best to avoid lost years if you can avoid it with a few hours of research.

I'd like to observe the U8, U6, and U19 teams because I'm curious to see if the coaching staffs follow a curriculum and how they progress together.

Sorry, but this is a bit absurd.

1. VDA starts at u13. Their feeder clubs are PWSI and VSA. They each have rec programs, which is what U8 and U6 essentially are.
2. FCV has a practically non-existent rec program. You should have gathered that when it was stated earlier that they have almost no youth player pool.
3. What is taught at U6 is not even close to U19 and to want to see both as a basis of curriculum follow through is borderline ridiculous.

Sorry for being harsh but this needs to be nipped in the bud.

So you think it's absurd because you don't understand my methods? I'd like to know how old your child is. My child will soon be entering one of these programs, and we will choose a club based on the curriculum and recruiting commitments. I used to be a student athlete (in a different sport), but I know I won't waste my time looking for victories like many families do. That, once again, is not my ultimate goal. And what do you mean by "nip it in the bud"? Any parent who has a child who participates in sports must be concerned about all age groups and how the curriculum translates at each level. That is how you can determine whether a program is worthwhile.

Yes, it is absurd to believe that any sort of club rec curriculum at 5-7 years old is anything more than playing sharks and minnows mixed with some cone dribbling drills followed by a scrimmage and a hearty juice box.

You will find no program at this age that offers more than introductory fun.

You also fail to take into account the tremendous player turnover that occurs over the years. Half the kids playing at that age will not even bother to pursue travel soccer not to mention stick with the club through the entirety of their “curriculum” through U19.

The ECNL team at U13 will likely be turned over by 50% before U15.

But by all means worry about college commitments at a club, one of which is younger than your own DD, before you even know if she is even good at soccer.

Yeah, you’re a clown. Neither club is even 19 years old themselves and you want to know how they follow through on their curriculum. Lol.

You are right, nothing looks the same from U13 to U19, next year a new big merger with great propaganda will be drawing all your top players. It is what it is. Good Luck.

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Anonymous wrote:tons of variables including commute distance, but here are a few thoughts

Loudoun - huge club so very political, underperforms at ECNL level which would make me evaluate coaching carefully. It really comes down to the coach
FCV - good track record at producing competitive teams and college placement, questionable culture, questionable ability to draw elite talent in future with GA only, practice locations uncertain
McLean - good track record at college placement, declining ability to attract and develop talent due to dilution, moderately competitive on average. A lock to stay in ECNL
VDA - up and comers of the bunch, middling placement history. remote location, polarizing ECNL coaching
BRYC - hit hard by coaching defections (and players), least competitive ECNL program currently, faithful following. Significant potential for a merger in the future

for us, it would boil down to who would the coach be, because that will determine a players progress more than the club. There are coaches we would avoid like the plague but you should develop your own opinions. Highly recommend going to see how they operate at practice and at games.

VDA has one top 3 team in ECNL Midatlatic division. Unless your DD is in the same age group as that team, I would steer clear from VDA.

NC courage u19 are 9th, committed players…

UNC
Florida State
Wake Forest
Louisville
NC State
Davidson
South Florida
Fordham
Charlotte
Mason
Minnesota
Georgia
UNC Wilmington
Duke
VT

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Anonymous wrote:tons of variables including commute distance, but here are a few thoughts

Loudoun - huge club so very political, underperforms at ECNL level which would make me evaluate coaching carefully. It really comes down to the coach
FCV - good track record at producing competitive teams and college placement, questionable culture, questionable ability to draw elite talent in future with GA only, practice locations uncertain
McLean - good track record at college placement, declining ability to attract and develop talent due to dilution, moderately competitive on average. A lock to stay in ECNL
VDA - up and comers of the bunch, middling placement history. remote location, polarizing ECNL coaching
BRYC - hit hard by coaching defections (and players), least competitive ECNL program currently, faithful following. Significant potential for a merger in the future

for us, it would boil down to who would the coach be, because that will determine a players progress more than the club. There are coaches we would avoid like the plague but you should develop your own opinions. Highly recommend going to see how they operate at practice and at games.

VDA has one top 3 team in ECNL Midatlatic division. Unless your DD is in the same age group as that team, I would steer clear from VDA.

You’re a clown. At least don’t make it obvious.

You have no clue the level of competition faced day in and day out. Back to back double header weekends.

Ask Arlington 04. They were third last year in GA Mid-Atlantic. They’re 14 this year in ECNL Mid-Atlantic. Winless.

And it doesn’t get easier the older you get. It’s much harder because of the built in filter to push kids out.

It’s are hard pill to swallow but it’s a fact.

Lace up your boots and zip up your mouth.

For you 06-09 parents. Take a look around. Most of your teammates will be replaced.

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Anonymous wrote:We already have enough parents - way more than enough - in soccer who don’t know squat about soccer and are just here for the water cooler/cocktail dinner bragging and college scholarships. If your DD isn’t a futbolista, sign her up for Lax. If she is, you all will know a good program when you see one and can stop asking ridiculous questions about college.

That's all there is to it, folks. Everything wrong with American youth soccer is summed up in this brilliant mindset. Stop talking because you sound simple.

Simple is worrying about college scholarships when your kid probably isn’t going to even make the academy for either VDA or FCV.

Again, in the mind of a soccer parent. Thinking you have it all figured out and attempting (unsuccessfully) to denigrate someone who is simply looking for the best situation. You are a naive fool.

I’m not denigrating anybody. Those aren’t easy programs to make - and stay in. I don’t claim to have it all figured out, but some of this is easy to figure out. If you think your kid is going to get what they need in terms of soccer training/education/curriculum from either A) a club led by a guy who spent his college years playing soccer, but not for his college team, for the club team or B) a club led by a guy who spent his college years playing, not soccer, but records for the college radio station, you’re way, way off target. They are just clubs with teams and platforms. Learning the game happens elsewhere.

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From what I’ve seen across several age groups and over a period of time here’s my advice at a club level At the ECNL OR GA level (since we don’t know the exact age of your daughter).

1) Union (overall best coaching NM and CW and solid college connections)
2) VDA or Arlington (pick the one that you live closest to)
3) BRYC (coaching actually seems decent but players tend to be weaker) or FCV (used to be good and still are at older ages but that ship is sinking now. Coaching has some pockets of goodness, but league is not great)
5) Loudoun (and my kid plays there. Poor coaching and not a lot of good college connections. Well run administratively.)

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Anonymous wrote:The trouble is selecting a club for a U8 player doesn't guarantee anything by U18. First of all, most clubs don't do a great job across the board, they all have pockets where they are good, or great, and they have others where they are ass. Secondly, so much changes in youth soccer every year, that in the span of 10 years, a club can easily go from juggernaut to obselete, and vice versa. If you are really going to do this right, you need to evaluate the situation every single year and make an explicit decision.

So, don't you agree that this should change, and that if more families looked for a rebuts curriculum DMV as a gap in the soccer community, it would be better for development?

There is little doubt that if parents were smart enough to recognize a good curriculum that the clubs providing it would thrive. And for the most part, this happens. The clubs reviewed above are among the best. The trouble with all of them, is that they struggle to remain consistent with it. There are lots of reasons. There is a significant shortage of quality coaching. Good U8 coaches are not necessarily good U15 coaches. There is often a lack of integrity in club management. Pay to play youth soccer has a built in conflict of interest between generating income and providing great coaching. That generally means alot of turnover. The reality is you have to re-evaluate your club every year as a result.

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Anonymous wrote:The trouble is selecting a club for a U8 player doesn't guarantee anything by U18. First of all, most clubs don't do a great job across the board, they all have pockets where they are good, or great, and they have others where they are ass. Secondly, so much changes in youth soccer every year, that in the span of 10 years, a club can easily go from juggernaut to obselete, and vice versa. If you are really going to do this right, you need to evaluate the situation every single year and make an explicit decision.

So, don't you agree that this should change, and that if more families looked for a rebuts curriculum DMV as a gap in the soccer community, it would be better for development?

There is little doubt that if parents were smart enough to recognize a good curriculum that the clubs providing it would thrive. And for the most part, this happens. The clubs reviewed above are among the best. The trouble with all of them, is that they struggle to remain consistent with it. There are lots of reasons. There is a significant shortage of quality coaching. Good U8 coaches are not necessarily good U15 coaches. There is often a lack of integrity in club management. Pay to play youth soccer has a built in conflict of interest between generating income and providing great coaching. That generally means alot of turnover. The reality is you have to re-evaluate your club every year as a result.

Finally, something helpful and not condescending. Thank you

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Anonymous wrote:We have a young daughter who wants to go to a top-ranked club for the next several years, and it appears FCV and VDA are the top clubs in the area for talent and coaching. My question is, which club has the better training curriculum and recruiting opportunities? I don't need any troll responses, I really want to know which club is better from unbiased families and why you feel that way. 

Why do you think VDA and FCV are the best in the area for talent and coaching? Have you been to games and practices to watch how they are run? What research has pointed you to these two clubs?

+10,000

Most people assume the club that has put themselves on top of the chain will have the best coaches. Don't agree with this as I have seen many teams well trained outside of the big clubs.

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https://www.soccerwire.com/resources/letter-to-the-editor-fed-up-with-youth-soccer-clubs-stealing-players/

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.soccerwire.com/resources/letter-to-the-editor-fed-up-with-youth-soccer-clubs-stealing-players/

It sounds like VDA. They replaced their 07 and older team players with several players from surrounding small clubs, yet this club makes a lot of noise bragging that they have strong feeder pools.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.soccerwire.com/resources/letter-to-the-editor-fed-up-with-youth-soccer-clubs-stealing-players/

It sounds like VDA. They replaced their 07 and older team players with several players from surrounding small clubs, yet this club makes a lot of noise bragging that they have strong feeder pools.

This is FCVs business model! Note, business not soccer