Choosing between VDA ECNL and FCV GA

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Anonymous wrote:We have a young daughter who wants to go to a top-ranked club for the next several years, and it appears FCV and VDA are the top clubs in the area for talent and coaching. My question is, which club has the better training curriculum and recruiting opportunities? I don't need any troll responses, I really want to know which club is better from unbiased families and why you feel that way. 

😂 You don’t a troll response? This is a troll post. But don’t worry….everybody and their mother will comment.

Nope, I actually want to know your thoughts. I am not even sure why you would say this, as I am new to this forum. Maybe this will make you feel I genuinely want a genuine response. Not based on who wins, because I could care less about that. I care about training and recruiting for the future. 

GA isn't going to be a top league and GA clubs will stop drawing top players moving forward.

The younger FCV teams are very poor performing teams with little hope of attracting top talent moving forward. While win loss records and rankings are to be taken with a pinch of salt all of FCV's current top performing GA teams were all top performing youth teams at U10-U12. They once had strong core groups of players they added to at the full sided ages but they seem to rely more heavily on recruiting to those teams in the future without a strong feeder pool.

VDA seems to be more consistent moving forward with a solid player pool to draw from between VSA and PWSI.

The only ECNL club I would choose FCV over would be BRYC. I would no longer consider joining a FCV team younger than 07/08. They simply do not have the draw of a destination league nor a decent player pool.

No trying to troll, but OP said "top ranked" which I assume OP is defining by wins/losses and where they might stand on the two rankings methodologies often cited on this board. That would then excuse BRYC from the options for OP's DD despite their ability to get player recruited (whether that's into college or to other clubs when they are older... and subsequently into college... e.g. VDA's top U19 player this year who won Gatorade POY while with BRYC before switching to VDA for her last season).

Given clubs' track records of recruiting over existing players every year, OP, I'd shy away from trying to move your DD to one of these "top ranked" clubs so soon, because there is a good chance she will get recruited over in a few years as her club tries to bring in better players (because other clubs did a better job of developing players than your DD's club actuall will/could).

Maybe McLean is a good middle of the road option for your DD. Might not get recruited over but might be part of a 30-player pool for an 18-person roster. But still may be able to get a chance to play in college regardless.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We have a young daughter who wants to go to a top-ranked club for the next several years, and it appears FCV and VDA are the top clubs in the area for talent and coaching. My question is, which club has the better training curriculum and recruiting opportunities? I don't need any troll responses, I really want to know which club is better from unbiased families and why you feel that way. 

I definitely give the nod on coaching to VDA. FCV seems to have better recruiting classes.

FCV 2009 is a terrible team. That might be an indication that they are very much a club in decline as discussed on this board.

Provide your insight into Loudoun and their success.

Soccer wise please. We don’t care about how they make money… 🐸☕️

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We have a young daughter who wants to go to a top-ranked club for the next several years, and it appears FCV and VDA are the top clubs in the area for talent and coaching. My question is, which club has the better training curriculum and recruiting opportunities? I don't need any troll responses, I really want to know which club is better from unbiased families and why you feel that way. 

😂 You don’t a troll response? This is a troll post. But don’t worry….everybody and their mother will comment.

Nope, I actually want to know your thoughts. I am not even sure why you would say this, as I am new to this forum. Maybe this will make you feel I genuinely want a genuine response. Not based on who wins, because I could care less about that. I care about training and recruiting for the future. 

GA isn't going to be a top league and GA clubs will stop drawing top players moving forward.

The younger FCV teams are very poor performing teams with little hope of attracting top talent moving forward. While win loss records and rankings are to be taken with a pinch of salt all of FCV's current top performing GA teams were all top performing youth teams at U10-U12. They once had strong core groups of players they added to at the full sided ages but they seem to rely more heavily on recruiting to those teams in the future without a strong feeder pool.

VDA seems to be more consistent moving forward with a solid player pool to draw from between VSA and PWSI.

The only ECNL club I would choose FCV over would be BRYC. I would no longer consider joining a FCV team younger than 07/08. They simply do not have the draw of a destination league nor a decent player pool.

But according to another post VDA replaced many of the senior players with players from another club. How does it reflect their individual dev program or strong feeder pools?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We have a young daughter who wants to go to a top-ranked club for the next several years, and it appears FCV and VDA are the top clubs in the area for talent and coaching. My question is, which club has the better training curriculum and recruiting opportunities? I don't need any troll responses, I really want to know which club is better from unbiased families and why you feel that way. 

😂 You don’t a troll response? This is a troll post. But don’t worry….everybody and their mother will comment.

Nope, I actually want to know your thoughts. I am not even sure why you would say this, as I am new to this forum. Maybe this will make you feel I genuinely want a genuine response. Not based on who wins, because I could care less about that. I care about training and recruiting for the future. 

GA isn't going to be a top league and GA clubs will stop drawing top players moving forward.

The younger FCV teams are very poor performing teams with little hope of attracting top talent moving forward. While win loss records and rankings are to be taken with a pinch of salt all of FCV's current top performing GA teams were all top performing youth teams at U10-U12. They once had strong core groups of players they added to at the full sided ages but they seem to rely more heavily on recruiting to those teams in the future without a strong feeder pool.

VDA seems to be more consistent moving forward with a solid player pool to draw from between VSA and PWSI.

The only ECNL club I would choose FCV over would be BRYC. I would no longer consider joining a FCV team younger than 07/08. They simply do not have the draw of a destination league nor a decent player pool.

But according to another post VDA replaced many of the senior players with players from another club. How does it reflect their individual dev program or strong feeder pools?

The ECNL is supposed to be the top players in the country, what would it say about a club if they said no to higher level players.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We have a young daughter who wants to go to a top-ranked club for the next several years, and it appears FCV and VDA are the top clubs in the area for talent and coaching. My question is, which club has the better training curriculum and recruiting opportunities? I don't need any troll responses, I really want to know which club is better from unbiased families and why you feel that way. 

I definitely give the nod on coaching to VDA. FCV seems to have better recruiting classes.

FCV 2009 is a terrible team. That might be an indication that they are very much a club in decline as discussed on this board.

Provide your insight into Loudoun and their success.

Soccer wise please. We don’t care about how they make money… 🐸☕️

HUUUUUUUGE rec program and huge player pool. Loudoun used to lose top players to FCV because FCV had ECNL. Once Loudoun was added to ECNL their younger age group retention has increased exponentially. These were players FCV relied on over the years to round out their player pool. GA just isn't a draw for most Loudoun players anymore.

FCV coaching is better than Loudoun but the talent pool is decidedly deeper and getting deeper at Loudoun.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We have a young daughter who wants to go to a top-ranked club for the next several years, and it appears FCV and VDA are the top clubs in the area for talent and coaching. My question is, which club has the better training curriculum and recruiting opportunities? I don't need any troll responses, I really want to know which club is better from unbiased families and why you feel that way. 

😂 You don’t a troll response? This is a troll post. But don’t worry….everybody and their mother will comment.

Nope, I actually want to know your thoughts. I am not even sure why you would say this, as I am new to this forum.

No you are not new to this forum.

Maybe this will make you feel I genuinely want a genuine response. Not based on who wins, because I could care less about that. I care about training and recruiting for the future. 

I doubt it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We have a young daughter who wants to go to a top-ranked club for the next several years, and it appears FCV and VDA are the top clubs in the area for talent and coaching. My question is, which club has the better training curriculum and recruiting opportunities? I don't need any troll responses, I really want to know which club is better from unbiased families and why you feel that way. 

If VDA wants your DD they will recruit her.

What a stupid response.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We have a young daughter who wants to go to a top-ranked club for the next several years, and it appears FCV and VDA are the top clubs in the area for talent and coaching. My question is, which club has the better training curriculum and recruiting opportunities? I don't need any troll responses, I really want to know which club is better from unbiased families and why you feel that way. 

😂 You don’t a troll response? This is a troll post. But don’t worry….everybody and their mother will comment.

Nope, I actually want to know your thoughts. I am not even sure why you would say this, as I am new to this forum. Maybe this will make you feel I genuinely want a genuine response. Not based on who wins, because I could care less about that. I care about training and recruiting for the future. 

GA isn't going to be a top league and GA clubs will stop drawing top players moving forward.

The younger FCV teams are very poor performing teams with little hope of attracting top talent moving forward. While win loss records and rankings are to be taken with a pinch of salt all of FCV's current top performing GA teams were all top performing youth teams at U10-U12. They once had strong core groups of players they added to at the full sided ages but they seem to rely more heavily on recruiting to those teams in the future without a strong feeder pool.

VDA seems to be more consistent moving forward with a solid player pool to draw from between VSA and PWSI.

The only ECNL club I would choose FCV over would be BRYC. I would no longer consider joining a FCV team younger than 07/08. They simply do not have the draw of a destination league nor a decent player pool.

But according to another post VDA replaced many of the senior players with players from another club. How does it reflect their individual dev program or strong feeder pools?

It says that top players are moving to ECNL clubs and that nobody's spot is guaranteed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We have a young daughter who wants to go to a top-ranked club for the next several years, and it appears FCV and VDA are the top clubs in the area for talent and coaching. My question is, which club has the better training curriculum and recruiting opportunities? I don't need any troll responses, I really want to know which club is better from unbiased families and why you feel that way. 

If VDA wants your DD they will recruit her.

This is not true.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We have a young daughter who wants to go to a top-ranked club for the next several years, and it appears FCV and VDA are the top clubs in the area for talent and coaching. My question is, which club has the better training curriculum and recruiting opportunities? I don't need any troll responses, I really want to know which club is better from unbiased families and why you feel that way. 

😂 You don’t a troll response? This is a troll post. But don’t worry….everybody and their mother will comment.

Nope, I actually want to know your thoughts. I am not even sure why you would say this, as I am new to this forum. Maybe this will make you feel I genuinely want a genuine response. Not based on who wins, because I could care less about that. I care about training and recruiting for the future. 

GA isn't going to be a top league and GA clubs will stop drawing top players moving forward.

The younger FCV teams are very poor performing teams with little hope of attracting top talent moving forward. While win loss records and rankings are to be taken with a pinch of salt all of FCV's current top performing GA teams were all top performing youth teams at U10-U12. They once had strong core groups of players they added to at the full sided ages but they seem to rely more heavily on recruiting to those teams in the future without a strong feeder pool.

VDA seems to be more consistent moving forward with a solid player pool to draw from between VSA and PWSI.

The only ECNL club I would choose FCV over would be BRYC. I would no longer consider joining a FCV team younger than 07/08. They simply do not have the draw of a destination league nor a decent player pool.

But according to another post VDA replaced many of the senior players with players from another club. How does it reflect their individual dev program or strong feeder pools?

Dude….they added 5 outside players to a combined age group team of 20 plus. At some point you should move along with the narrative.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We have a young daughter who wants to go to a top-ranked club for the next several years, and it appears FCV and VDA are the top clubs in the area for talent and coaching. My question is, which club has the better training curriculum and recruiting opportunities? I don't need any troll responses, I really want to know which club is better from unbiased families and why you feel that way. 

I definitely give the nod on coaching to VDA. FCV seems to have better recruiting classes.

FCV 2009 is a terrible team. That might be an indication that they are very much a club in decline as discussed on this board.

Provide your insight into Loudoun and their success.

Soccer wise please. We don’t care about how they make money… 🐸☕️

HUUUUUUUGE rec program and huge player pool. Loudoun used to lose top players to FCV because FCV had ECNL. Once Loudoun was added to ECNL their younger age group retention has increased exponentially. These were players FCV relied on over the years to round out their player pool. GA just isn't a draw for most Loudoun players anymore.

FCV coaching is better than Loudoun but the talent pool is decidedly deeper and getting deeper at Loudoun.

Thank you for the response. I really do care about the player pool, only coaching and which coaches are linked up with college coaches and help with recruitment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We have a young daughter who wants to go to a top-ranked club for the next several years, and it appears FCV and VDA are the top clubs in the area for talent and coaching. My question is, which club has the better training curriculum and recruiting opportunities? I don't need any troll responses, I really want to know which club is better from unbiased families and why you feel that way. 

😂 You don’t a troll response? This is a troll post. But don’t worry….everybody and their mother will comment.

Nope, I actually want to know your thoughts. I am not even sure why you would say this, as I am new to this forum. Maybe this will make you feel I genuinely want a genuine response. Not based on who wins, because I could care less about that. I care about training and recruiting for the future. 

GA isn't going to be a top league and GA clubs will stop drawing top players moving forward.

The younger FCV teams are very poor performing teams with little hope of attracting top talent moving forward. While win loss records and rankings are to be taken with a pinch of salt all of FCV's current top performing GA teams were all top performing youth teams at U10-U12. They once had strong core groups of players they added to at the full sided ages but they seem to rely more heavily on recruiting to those teams in the future without a strong feeder pool.

VDA seems to be more consistent moving forward with a solid player pool to draw from between VSA and PWSI.

The only ECNL club I would choose FCV over would be BRYC. I would no longer consider joining a FCV team younger than 07/08. They simply do not have the draw of a destination league nor a decent player pool.

But according to another post VDA replaced many of the senior players with players from another club. How does it reflect their individual dev program or strong feeder pools?

It says that top players are moving to ECNL clubs and that nobody's spot is guaranteed.

True, and interesting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We have a young daughter who wants to go to a top-ranked club for the next several years, and it appears FCV and VDA are the top clubs in the area for talent and coaching. My question is, which club has the better training curriculum and recruiting opportunities? I don't need any troll responses, I really want to know which club is better from unbiased families and why you feel that way. 

😂 You don’t a troll response? This is a troll post. But don’t worry….everybody and their mother will comment.

Nope, I actually want to know your thoughts. I am not even sure why you would say this, as I am new to this forum. Maybe this will make you feel I genuinely want a genuine response. Not based on who wins, because I could care less about that. I care about training and recruiting for the future. 

GA isn't going to be a top league and GA clubs will stop drawing top players moving forward.

The younger FCV teams are very poor performing teams with little hope of attracting top talent moving forward. While win loss records and rankings are to be taken with a pinch of salt all of FCV's current top performing GA teams were all top performing youth teams at U10-U12. They once had strong core groups of players they added to at the full sided ages but they seem to rely more heavily on recruiting to those teams in the future without a strong feeder pool.

VDA seems to be more consistent moving forward with a solid player pool to draw from between VSA and PWSI.

The only ECNL club I would choose FCV over would be BRYC. I would no longer consider joining a FCV team younger than 07/08. They simply do not have the draw of a destination league nor a decent player pool.

But according to another post VDA replaced many of the senior players with players from another club. How does it reflect their individual dev program or strong feeder pools?

I am a firm believer that anyone is replaceable, so if you are at a top club and better players move in, so be it. Players need to know everyone is replaceable and work for their position. 

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We have a young daughter who wants to go to a top-ranked club for the next several years, and it appears FCV and VDA are the top clubs in the area for talent and coaching. My question is, which club has the better training curriculum and recruiting opportunities? I don't need any troll responses, I really want to know which club is better from unbiased families and why you feel that way. 

I definitely give the nod on coaching to VDA. FCV seems to have better recruiting classes.

FCV 2009 is a terrible team. That might be an indication that they are very much a club in decline as discussed on this board.

Provide your insight into Loudoun and their success.

Soccer wise please. We don’t care about how they make money… 🐸☕️

HUUUUUUUGE rec program and huge player pool. Loudoun used to lose top players to FCV because FCV had ECNL. Once Loudoun was added to ECNL their younger age group retention has increased exponentially. These were players FCV relied on over the years to round out their player pool. GA just isn't a draw for most Loudoun players anymore.

FCV coaching is better than Loudoun but the talent pool is decidedly deeper and getting deeper at Loudoun.

Thank you for the response. I really do care about the player pool, only coaching and which coaches are linked up with college coaches and help with recruitment.

1. Have one of the ECNL clubs evaluated her, is she good enough
2. Good players get recruited no matter what ECNL/Ga club they play at
3. Pick somewhere local

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We have a young daughter who wants to go to a top-ranked club for the next several years, and it appears FCV and VDA are the top clubs in the area for talent and coaching. My question is, which club has the better training curriculum and recruiting opportunities? I don't need any troll responses, I really want to know which club is better from unbiased families and why you feel that way. 

😂 You don’t a troll response? This is a troll post. But don’t worry….everybody and their mother will comment.

Nope, I actually want to know your thoughts. I am not even sure why you would say this, as I am new to this forum.

No you are not new to this forum.

Maybe this will make you feel I genuinely want a genuine response. Not based on who wins, because I could care less about that. I care about training and recruiting for the future. 

I doubt it.

You have some difficulties that need to be looked into. Anyone who believes they know everyone on an anonymous forum requires assistance.