Fairfax County Double Murder

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am trying not to participate in all the speculation about custody, but the idea that a man can kill his wife, cut off her family from the child during the investigation, be convicted, and then everything is left status quo as far as custody is just deeply troubling and offensive as a human being. I recognize it's all confidential and we won't get to know. I just hope the girl and Christine's family get justice.

This is honestly what hurts me the most about this. I’m projecting, of course, but if my DH murdered me, the pain would be a million times compounded if my son had to only have contact with his horrible family. My family is the one he is closest to and has the deepest ties to and affection for. Losing my son for all of them would be even worse than losing me, and it would greatly compound the loss to my son. I don’t know anything about Banfield’s mother but if she is behind keeping the child’s maternal parents from her, then she is nearly as evil as her son.

I often think of the pain of Dan Markel’s parents and sister, who never get to see or have any relationship with his sons after he was murdered by his ex brother and mother in law, allegedly without any involvement by his ex-wife.

There are a few true crime cases that involved murderers of spouses ending up with their family having custody of the kids and the murder victims family having little to no access to the kids - just a terrible cruelty on top of cruelty.

In my years as a family law and then criminal law attorney I saw so much awfulness where kids were pawns to disturbed adult dynamics. I am entirely unsurprised anymore that the world is so full of damaged people.

[Anonymous]

Very, very thankful to the jurors.

To every person who posts 'it's possible BB didn't kill his wife" comments, please try to imagine being attacked by a stranger in your home because your spouse unlocked the door and invited a stranger to attack you, and then imagine your relief at seeing your spouse arrive home and how you would feel certain that you would receive help from your spouse, and then imagine that your spouse, whom you have been with since college, have a child with and have gone to counseling with to try to improve your marriage, this person-your spouse instead of helping you then attacks you while the au pair you and your spouse hired also watches your spouse attack you, and then imagine being aware of the au pair pulling out a gun and shooting the random stranger who turns out to be the only person who could save you and defend you from the attack launched by your spouse.

BB's adamant professions of love to the au pair in his handwritten letters to her and adamant professions of love for his wife during the trial are diametrically opposed statements.

If the au pair took the wife's place in the husband's bed AFTER the wife was killed, then perhaps BB's story could be plausible, but the au pair was needed by BB as an alibi and as human insurance policy for his plan and subsequent actions.

The au pair had to have a gun, had to be taught how to shoot a gun, had to be vulnerable enough to not question her employers, had to be willing to do whatever she was told and follow through accordingly.

The au pair did exactly as she was ordered. Thankfully the au pair called 911 when her employer (CB) told her to and, sure enough, the au pair also hung up on the 1st 911 call when her employer (BB) told her too.

RIP CB and JR, with condolences and deepest sympathies to your families and loved ones

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who else I feel horrible for: not just Christine and Joe , their murders and the character assassination they endured.
Also those innocent sexual assault victims who heard from demonic BB that his wife enjoyed reading their stories. They have to live with that statement but I hope Christine’s employers have reached out to the victims to reassure them. Sounds like BB was the real sadist here and projected that onto Christine and Joe.

Thank you for adding this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ok
On fetlife messages between JR and CB… He’s the one that suggested blood play, and she did say she didn’t want them, she was afraid of them bc it could leave marks for longer than she wanted.

What do we make of that?
Because this wasn’t brought up in any other conversation with other users either.

If not stabbing, what would BB’s plan be ? Since the blood play/knife was never a thing until JR suggested?

Curious how John Carrol didn’t bring that up.

Carrol didn't bring it up because it's not based in reality. The Annastasia profile brought up cutting her clothes off to nine different users besides JR on fetlife. BB's guilty verdict beyond a reasonable doubt is righteous. 9 other dudes dodged a bullet. Literally.

You are wrong in a major way here. You have gotten the facts wrong which were validated by the texting and that JM also said. Which is that Joe did not ask for blood play, he was willing to do this because who he thought Christine was asked him to do this along with brining the knife. Joe says in text that is online that he had only done blood play once with a woman. He was willing to do it but that he asked again if this was really what she wanted. He also we know based on his past relationships and conversations was also not into knife play at all. He brought what he was asked to bring, and he acted for her sake to be enthusiastic about her requests. Again he spoke about safe words, or signals... and offered to bring a timer to not go to far. So the idea that these were his idea doesn't make sense based on the evidence. I also know about his history with other partners and talking about to friends or his mother he was not into knife play or blood play. So you might want to figure out how you got this all wrong.

Brandon clearly wanted Joe to brings these items and speak about this in texts because he did want to stab his wife and not shoot her. He didnt ask Joe to bring a gun after all, but a knife.

Cutting her clothes is one thing. But did you see how she said she didn’t want blood play in the beggining?
Maybe his plan was to shoot her and say it was a mistake ?

I'm aware that the statement about blood was made.. I don't see the significance. The key was that a the person who entered the home was toting a knife. Bringing the knife is key. A fair jury came to a unanimous verdict beyond a reasonable doubt after weighing the evidence.

I'm convinced they came to the correct verdict. I believe Julianna's story is substantially accurate.

I'm curious.. do you think BB did is guilty and the commonwealth didn't make its case?

Alternatively, do you believe that BB is innocent?

I’m the one that posted originally about the case having reasonable doubts. I’m also the one that posted originally that Juliana didn’t make sense and there were key differences from her interview w prosecutors to the trial testimony.

I don’t think BB is innocent. Despite what happened that day, the things he was doing to CB before her murder were already disgusting.

I do think the story we know is not the full story or exactly what happened.
I do not think his first intention was to stab CB. JR clearly is the one offering blood play and talking about cutting Anastasia while she denies it and says she doesn’t want it and it’s scared to do it.

Wouldn’t that be an ideal scenario for BB anyways? Why declining the offer? Why saying you don’t want pee and poop as part of the fantasy? Why caring about that if you hate your wife to the point of murdering her? These are questions that will never be answered.

Did he want to shoot her instead of stabbing her ? I don’t know. You don’t know. Only BB knows…

The logistics inside the house also doesn’t make sense to me. The timing and the way it was plotted, the 911 calls, the dates between the Discord conversations and fetlife ones, moving the conversation to telegram, telegram code still in CB’s phone … everything is full of gaps that will never be filled, imo.

I’m also the one that said that my opinion doesn’t matter, since he was convicted the way the case was presented. I’m just sharing my thoughts on it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Neighbors, how has it been after conviction? Is the family around, do they talk to neighbors at all?

Very, very quiet in the neighborhood. Although paternal grandmother (and partner?), great grandmother and grandfather (and 2nd wife?) are still in the house with the daughter, the house is quite dark. Despite being further dumbstruck (as if that was even possible) by the depravity of BB’s violence and his attempt to impugn Christine during his testimony, no neighbors are being openly hostile given that any such things as a verbal attack or shaming or leaving “get out of the neighborhood” notes in their mailbox would adversely affect the child. As far as other interaction, it is limited as we see them drive in and out of the neighborhood. the house is actually on a pipe stem off the cul de sac so they can go in and out without encountering anyone. BB’s father is usually at the school bus stop and prior to trial was somewhat social with other parents there. Don’t know how much that has changed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Neighbors, how has it been after conviction? Is the family around, do they talk to neighbors at all?

Very, very quiet in the neighborhood. Although paternal grandmother (and partner?), great grandmother and grandfather (and 2nd wife?) are still in the house with the daughter, the house is quite dark. Despite being further dumbstruck (as if that was even possible) by the depravity of BB’s violence and his attempt to impugn Christine during his testimony, no neighbors are being openly hostile given that any such things as a verbal attack or shaming or leaving “get out of the neighborhood” notes in their mailbox would adversely affect the child. As far as other interaction, it is limited as we see them drive in and out of the neighborhood. the house is actually on a pipe stem off the cul de sac so they can go in and out without encountering anyone. BB’s father is usually at the school bus stop and prior to trial was somewhat social with other parents there. Don’t know how much that has changed.

So thankful to hear that people are being respectful for the sake of that innocent child.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Neighbors, how has it been after conviction? Is the family around, do they talk to neighbors at all?

Very, very quiet in the neighborhood. Although paternal grandmother (and partner?), great grandmother and grandfather (and 2nd wife?) are still in the house with the daughter, the house is quite dark. Despite being further dumbstruck (as if that was even possible) by the depravity of BB’s violence and his attempt to impugn Christine during his testimony, no neighbors are being openly hostile given that any such things as a verbal attack or shaming or leaving “get out of the neighborhood” notes in their mailbox would adversely affect the child. As far as other interaction, it is limited as we see them drive in and out of the neighborhood. the house is actually on a pipe stem off the cul de sac so they can go in and out without encountering anyone. BB’s father is usually at the school bus stop and prior to trial was somewhat social with other parents there. Don’t know how much that has changed.

What about Brendan's mom? Is she still there?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Neighbors, how has it been after conviction? Is the family around, do they talk to neighbors at all?

What about Brendan's mom? Is she still there?

Brendan's mom is the "grandmother" referred to above. I wasn't sure whether you count backwards from the child or Brendan. So grandparents are the child's grandparents. Sorry for the confusion.

[Anonymous]

FYI based on this video, CW has confirmed that Christine has never had an affair.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKdeeiFJBYA

[Anonymous]

how can they "confirm" she never had an affair? I mean, i believe that she probably didn't, if her friends all say she didn't. But weird to "confirm it".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:how can they "confirm" she never had an affair? I mean, i believe that she probably didn't, if her friends all say she didn't. But weird to "confirm it".

She should’ve had an affair. Find someone that loved her, not this despicable bag of excrement.

[Anonymous]

Christine Banfield's family speaks for first time since brutal murder, Brendan Banfield's conviction

Complete statement
The entire Benson Family would like to thank the jurors for their time, careful attention to
the evidence and for giving justice to Christine and our family. The jury would not have been able to render their unanimous decision without the investigation and persistence of the Fairfax County Police Department. We are grateful for the resources and effort that went into this case as well as the dedication. We recognize that this trial was complex and had several nuances that presented a unique set of challenges for which the Fairfax Commonwealth Attorney’s Office navigated
successfully and we thank them for it. We are grateful to all of those involved in this case including all of the forensic experts, all persons who came forward to provide information to the police, and the witnesses who testified on behalf of the Commonwealth. We are thankful to the Fairfax County
Sheriff’s Office for all of their assistance with the trial. Throughout this entire process we have been supported by an amazing group of Christine’s co-workers and friends. We thank you for your time and support during the trial. We are forever grateful to the Fairfax County Victim Services Unit who were there with us from the beginning providing support, guidance and resources.

Our sympathy is with Joe Ryan’s family as we understand the loss and grief that they are
experiencing. He, like Christine, was an innocent victim.

Christine was an honest, faithful, caring, compassionate, helpful person who was dedicated to her family, friends, and patients. She loved her family deeply and was devoted to her marriage. Christine suffered a violent, horrific, senseless death. The lies told about her after her murder were just as painful as her death. We are committed to ensuring that Christine will always be remembered as the beautiful person she was to everyone that loved her.

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/crime/true-crime/brendan-banfield-murder-trial/christine-banfields-family-speaks-first-time-brendan-banfield-murder-conviction-au-pair-affair/65-88d4baba-ed79-4683-9f9c-f0ddc1190ab9

[Anonymous]

Meanwhile Brendan’s family has not put out a statement as they are still trying to figure out the McDonald’s app.

[Anonymous]

I’ve been thinking… Christine has always loved butterflies whenever I see one I think of her and Joe was a rescuer of dogs, especially old ones. I will look online but anyone local to the Herndon area know of not for profits that could use some donations on behalf of Christine and Joe?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’ve been thinking… Christine has always loved butterflies whenever I see one I think of her and Joe was a rescuer of dogs, especially old ones. I will look online but anyone local to the Herndon area know of not for profits that could use some donations on behalf of Christine and Joe?

Any domestic violence or sexual abuse org would work given Christine's work.