The Trump women and their fashion mishaps thread part deux

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Anonymous wrote:Oh I'm PP. I actually loved Tiffany's dress, she looked wonderful at all the events. I hope now that she got her wedding paid for she will go back to backing out of the family apparatus.


Is there any evidence at all that Tiffany was backing away from this family? Publicly, at least, she has always supported her father. She spoke for him at the Republican conventions. She publicly appeared with him as president. She wasn’t AS involved, but she was involved and seemed to show no regret.


She laid VERY low until really the last few months of the campaign. It was a noticeable shift from her lack of any verbal support (or, to be fair, criticism) prior. She did speak for him in July 2016 and then i think not again until the RNC 2020
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Anonymous wrote:Here's the Grace Kelly photos - Ivanka's dress looks like she ordered a Chinese knockoff of this dress off of Alibaba.



I need someone smarter than me to do an analysis. How does this dress look so amazing on Grace Kelly and so meh on Vanky? Is it the boning in Ivanka’s? The way Vanky Carrie’s herself? Ivanka is a beautiful woman with a beautiful figure, how does this uncanny valley effect, as the other poster put it, happen? Is it solely that she doesn’t know who she is?


I don't think its dressmaking stuff like the pp says TBH. I think it comes down to two main things.

1) It was a weird dress to wear to this event. Grace Kelly is going to a ball, not a wedding. She is with a bunch of other people dressed VERY grandly. For a ball. And the dress is appropriate. It is a little too much for a daytime wedding when you aren't the bride, and it is a literal knock off of a famous movie gown and so it seems a little bit like she's playing dress up instead of dressing herself.

2) Her brand is now kind of 'two faced fake person.' I mean I would imagine even the MAGAs think this? Everyone knows her heart isn't in her dad's messages but she's fine lurking in the shadows to preserve her wealth and power. So the people on DJT's side must see her as not a true believer, maybe even a saboteur (unlike say DJTJ who is fully bought in, for better or worse). And to the rest of us she is spineless, willing to compromise any value she might have had for a piece of the family pie. This type of vibe is truly kind of poisonous. She just LOOKS fake. And everything about her choices (wearing a literal costume, the plastic surgery, the shoes) just adds to the 'fake' effect.
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Anonymous wrote:The Daily Mail has lots of pictures with the little kids if you want to see them
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11423217/Ivanka-Don-Jr-Eric-post-sweet-pics-sister-Tiffanys-lavish-Mar-Lago-wedding.html

Here's a good picture showing Kimberly dressed as a bat, with her son by Eric Villency



Just a reminder of what Kimberly used to have



Hot damn she traded way down.

Twice!


Maybe someone kidnapped the real Kimberly and she's being forced to scrub floors for the Trumps somewhere, while her imposter poses as her. Because that CANNOT be the same woman.
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Anonymous wrote:The Daily Mail has lots of pictures with the little kids if you want to see them
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11423217/Ivanka-Don-Jr-Eric-post-sweet-pics-sister-Tiffanys-lavish-Mar-Lago-wedding.html

Here's a good picture showing Kimberly dressed as a bat, with her son by Eric Villency



Just a reminder of what Kimberly used to have



Hot damn she traded way down.

Twice!


She was *so pretty* there. Is it really just fillers and crazy makeup that's turned her into what she is now?!


Wow, she was prettier 20 years ago, no way! Really great insights. Now post your photos from 20 years ago so we can call you an old hag compared to your 30s.

You’re missing the point. She looks dramatically worse, but not because of aging. She used to have reasonable hair and makeup that accentuated her natural beauty. Every choice she’s made the last few years has been wrong. She doesn’t even look her age, she just looks addicted to beauty treatments and products. It’s just too much of everything. Her clothing choices frequently aren’t flattering either, which is a shame because she has a nice figure. She could still look stunning if she hadn’t Kardashianized herself.

+1 She and Lara both look older than they are because of all the weird sh|t they’re doing.


It's not that she looks older -- it's that she looks grotesque. Most women lose their beauty, but most don't go from beautiful to grotesque during their adult years.
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Anonymous wrote:Here's the Grace Kelly photos - Ivanka's dress looks like she ordered a Chinese knockoff of this dress off of Alibaba.



I need someone smarter than me to do an analysis. How does this dress look so amazing on Grace Kelly and so meh on Vanky? Is it the boning in Ivanka’s? The way Vanky Carrie’s herself? Ivanka is a beautiful woman with a beautiful figure, how does this uncanny valley effect, as the other poster put it, happen? Is it solely that she doesn’t know who she is?


It’s the material and the fit. I’m not familiar enough with dressmaking/fabric terms, but the original dress seems like it was made of a thicker/richer material (maybe silk and chiffon) and lined properly. The knock-off, for example, had a sheer bodice with visible boning and the skirt didn’t have a proper slip/crinoline so it clung to her crotch. The neckline/bodice on the knock-off wasn’t tailored as well to Ivanka. Breast size might have has something to do with that, but Ivanka didn’t look disproportionately larger in the bust than she usually does. The knock off is also ankle length and the hem is raggedy, the original was floor length.

Also, Grace Kelly is Grace Kelly, and Ivanka is no Grace Kelly.

And the shoes.


Let me preface this by stating that I loathe all things Trump, including his wretched children.

That said, I don't understand what the issue is with Ivanka's dress. It was her maid of honor dress so clearly she didn't choose it. I would imagine that Tiffany and her team (wedding planner, coordinators, etc.) helped to create the bridesmaid dresses. Secondly, all of the wedding party dresses (bride, maid of honor, bridesmaid, mother of bride, mother of groom, Melania) were created by Elie Saab, who I'm a huge fan of. I think he did a great job, as he usually does.

So my question is - why is everyone crediting Ivanka with the Elie Saab dress when the party dresses were likely done together?

Her shoes were terrible but I do think the dress is beautiful.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Here's the Grace Kelly photos - Ivanka's dress looks like she ordered a Chinese knockoff of this dress off of Alibaba.



I need someone smarter than me to do an analysis. How does this dress look so amazing on Grace Kelly and so meh on Vanky? Is it the boning in Ivanka’s? The way Vanky Carrie’s herself? Ivanka is a beautiful woman with a beautiful figure, how does this uncanny valley effect, as the other poster put it, happen? Is it solely that she doesn’t know who she is?


Grace Kelly is 26, Ivanka is 41. The original dress is of it's era and even though it has spaghetti straps, they are ornament, it really is strapless with a full foundation and padding. Today visible corsetry and sheer dresses are en vogue. Not sure where this knockoff came from, but it's probably someone working with current bridal trends, so they hit those marks instead. But for all the visible trusses it's not actually a strapless bodice. It has clear straps that hold it up. So it's more of a flimsy thing thrown over the body, than a shell that creates a form. The fabric looks chintzy, and the original had more draping and a deep V in back which hasn't been recreated. No one has credited this dress to Elie Saab.

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Daily Mail has lots of pictures with the little kids if you want to see them
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11423217/Ivanka-Don-Jr-Eric-post-sweet-pics-sister-Tiffanys-lavish-Mar-Lago-wedding.html

Here's a good picture showing Kimberly dressed as a bat, with her son by Eric Villency



Just a reminder of what Kimberly used to have



Hot damn she traded way down.

Twice!


She was *so pretty* there. Is it really just fillers and crazy makeup that's turned her into what she is now?!


Wow, she was prettier 20 years ago, no way! Really great insights. Now post your photos from 20 years ago so we can call you an old hag compared to your 30s.

You’re missing the point. She looks dramatically worse, but not because of aging. She used to have reasonable hair and makeup that accentuated her natural beauty. Every choice she’s made the last few years has been wrong. She doesn’t even look her age, she just looks addicted to beauty treatments and products. It’s just too much of everything. Her clothing choices frequently aren’t flattering either, which is a shame because she has a nice figure. She could still look stunning if she hadn’t Kardashianized herself.

+1 She and Lara both look older than they are because of all the weird sh|t they’re doing.


It's not that she looks older -- it's that she looks grotesque. Most women lose their beauty, but most don't go from beautiful to grotesque during their adult years.


I can understand face going wrong but why is her hair so bad? She had great hair before. That shouldn’t be hard to fix. Shorter length, get rid of the middle part.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here's the Grace Kelly photos - Ivanka's dress looks like she ordered a Chinese knockoff of this dress off of Alibaba.



I need someone smarter than me to do an analysis. How does this dress look so amazing on Grace Kelly and so meh on Vanky? Is it the boning in Ivanka’s? The way Vanky Carrie’s herself? Ivanka is a beautiful woman with a beautiful figure, how does this uncanny valley effect, as the other poster put it, happen? Is it solely that she doesn’t know who she is?


Grace Kelly is 26, Ivanka is 41. The original dress is of it's era and even though it has spaghetti straps, they are ornament, it really is strapless with a full foundation and padding. Today visible corsetry and sheer dresses are en vogue. Not sure where this knockoff came from, but it's probably someone working with current bridal trends, so they hit those marks instead. But for all the visible trusses it's not actually a strapless bodice. It has clear straps that hold it up. So it's more of a flimsy thing thrown over the body, than a shell that creates a form. The fabric looks chintzy, and the original had more draping and a deep V in back which hasn't been recreated. No one has credited this dress to Elie Saab.




Saab did all the dresses for the party. See Vogue article below:

https://en.vogue.me/weddings/tiffany-trump-elie-saab-wedding-gown-lebanese-michael-boulos-florida/

"Elie Saab was also the designer behind the dresses worn by the bride’s mother, Marla Maples, and her half-sister and maid of honor, Ivanka Trump. With the wedding’s theme being pastel shades, Maples and Ivanka wore dresses in lilac and light blue colors respectively.”It’s a Lebanese American wedding, so we were so happy to have Elie Saab create the magic,” Maples shared with People magazine. The groom and the men from the Trump family were all dressed in black tuxedos with floral lapels and bow ties."

Elie Saab was the perfect pick for this. He did a great job with all the dresses. If anyone but Ivanka had worn the dress, it'd have been beautiful. But we hate her, so we hate the dress.
Anonymous
Well I love the grace Kelly knockoff dress. I’ve worn several vintage dresses from the 1950s and I agree with PP that the structure and fitting of them is just totally different—the dresses practically stand by themselves. Most modern women wouldn’t want to wear something like that. And women back then wore serious foundational garments underneath. Grace also had that great tan which is not healthy but looked great with the dress — she’s practically glowing. I assume from hanging around the Mediterranean sunning. And of course Cary grant is the ultimate accessory to any dress. Given all this, I feel like Ivanka did fine with it. I still want t see the mother of groom dress though!
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Daily Mail has lots of pictures with the little kids if you want to see them
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11423217/Ivanka-Don-Jr-Eric-post-sweet-pics-sister-Tiffanys-lavish-Mar-Lago-wedding.html

Here's a good picture showing Kimberly dressed as a bat, with her son by Eric Villency



Just a reminder of what Kimberly used to have



Hot damn she traded way down.






Twice!


She was *so pretty* there. Is it really just fillers and crazy makeup that's turned her into what she is now?!


Wow, she was prettier 20 years ago, no way! Really great insights. Now post your photos from 20 years ago so we can call you an old hag compared to your 30s.

You’re missing the point. She looks dramatically worse, but not because of aging. She used to have reasonable hair and makeup that accentuated her natural beauty. Every choice she’s made the last few years has been wrong. She doesn’t even look her age, she just looks addicted to beauty treatments and products. It’s just too much of everything. Her clothing choices frequently aren’t flattering either, which is a shame because she has a nice figure. She could still look stunning if she hadn’t Kardashianized herself.

+1 She and Lara both look older than they are because of all the weird sh|t they’re doing.


It's not that she looks older -- it's that she looks grotesque. Most women lose their beauty, but most don't go from beautiful to grotesque during their adult years.



Her inner self is starting to show on the outside, just like Mom said.
Anonymous
I hate them all with a passion but just looked at Ivanka’s IG and actually feel sad for her. I’m afraid the weight loss is really unhealthy (disordered) and I wouldn’t wish that on anyone.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Daily Mail has lots of pictures with the little kids if you want to see them
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11423217/Ivanka-Don-Jr-Eric-post-sweet-pics-sister-Tiffanys-lavish-Mar-Lago-wedding.html

Here's a good picture showing Kimberly dressed as a bat, with her son by Eric Villency



Just a reminder of what Kimberly used to have



Hot damn she traded way down.

Twice!


She was *so pretty* there. Is it really just fillers and crazy makeup that's turned her into what she is now?!


Wow, she was prettier 20 years ago, no way! Really great insights. Now post your photos from 20 years ago so we can call you an old hag compared to your 30s.


OMG, Literally NO ONE has said she looks like an old hag. NO ONE.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here's the Grace Kelly photos - Ivanka's dress looks like she ordered a Chinese knockoff of this dress off of Alibaba.



I need someone smarter than me to do an analysis. How does this dress look so amazing on Grace Kelly and so meh on Vanky? Is it the boning in Ivanka’s? The way Vanky Carrie’s herself? Ivanka is a beautiful woman with a beautiful figure, how does this uncanny valley effect, as the other poster put it, happen? Is it solely that she doesn’t know who she is?


It’s the material and the fit. I’m not familiar enough with dressmaking/fabric terms, but the original dress seems like it was made of a thicker/richer material (maybe silk and chiffon) and lined properly. The knock-off, for example, had a sheer bodice with visible boning and the skirt didn’t have a proper slip/crinoline so it clung to her crotch. The neckline/bodice on the knock-off wasn’t tailored as well to Ivanka. Breast size might have has something to do with that, but Ivanka didn’t look disproportionately larger in the bust than she usually does. The knock off is also ankle length and the hem is raggedy, the original was floor length.

Also, Grace Kelly is Grace Kelly, and Ivanka is no Grace Kelly.

And the shoes.


Yes exactly this. Grace Kelly's dress had a layer of silk. Ivanka's is just chiffon with no base layer to provide structure. It looks terrible.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Daily Mail has lots of pictures with the little kids if you want to see them
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11423217/Ivanka-Don-Jr-Eric-post-sweet-pics-sister-Tiffanys-lavish-Mar-Lago-wedding.html

Here's a good picture showing Kimberly dressed as a bat, with her son by Eric Villency



Just a reminder of what Kimberly used to have



Hot damn she traded way down.

Twice!


Maybe someone kidnapped the real Kimberly and she's being forced to scrub floors for the Trumps somewhere, while her imposter poses as her. Because that CANNOT be the same woman.


If you take the makeup off and cut and lightened up her hair, she would look a lot more like this. The vampy dark look she has going on now is just awful.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here's the Grace Kelly photos - Ivanka's dress looks like she ordered a Chinese knockoff of this dress off of Alibaba.



I need someone smarter than me to do an analysis. How does this dress look so amazing on Grace Kelly and so meh on Vanky? Is it the boning in Ivanka’s? The way Vanky Carrie’s herself? Ivanka is a beautiful woman with a beautiful figure, how does this uncanny valley effect, as the other poster put it, happen? Is it solely that she doesn’t know who she is?


Grace Kelly is 26, Ivanka is 41. The original dress is of it's era and even though it has spaghetti straps, they are ornament, it really is strapless with a full foundation and padding. Today visible corsetry and sheer dresses are en vogue. Not sure where this knockoff came from, but it's probably someone working with current bridal trends, so they hit those marks instead. But for all the visible trusses it's not actually a strapless bodice. It has clear straps that hold it up. So it's more of a flimsy thing thrown over the body, than a shell that creates a form. The fabric looks chintzy, and the original had more draping and a deep V in back which hasn't been recreated. No one has credited this dress to Elie Saab.



I disagree, I think the dress is a mess, no matter who wore it. I don't like the sheerness, I don't like the lack of structure. It's terrible.


Saab did all the dresses for the party. See Vogue article below:

https://en.vogue.me/weddings/tiffany-trump-elie-saab-wedding-gown-lebanese-michael-boulos-florida/

"Elie Saab was also the designer behind the dresses worn by the bride’s mother, Marla Maples, and her half-sister and maid of honor, Ivanka Trump. With the wedding’s theme being pastel shades, Maples and Ivanka wore dresses in lilac and light blue colors respectively.”It’s a Lebanese American wedding, so we were so happy to have Elie Saab create the magic,” Maples shared with People magazine. The groom and the men from the Trump family were all dressed in black tuxedos with floral lapels and bow ties."

Elie Saab was the perfect pick for this. He did a great job with all the dresses. If anyone but Ivanka had worn the dress, it'd have been beautiful. But we hate her, so we hate the dress.
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