Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:Kirk died a violent death and that's not good. Still, he said really toxic stuff. I don't feel that my right to say so should be impugned. Didn't like his views. Thought he was bad news. I can't believe that in America, people are losing their jobs over that basic right. I think Donald Trump is a douche too. That does not mean I want someone to attack him. I don't. But I also don't want anyone limiting my right to say he is a douche.


I agree but the issue is that we have otherwise sane and logical people literally cheering his killing.

I’ve seen so many disgusting comments from people I work with and friends. It terrifies me to see this kind of hatred is inside them for another human.


If you want to be mourned in death, live a better life. It is as simple as that. Most people view this as a case of F’d Around and Found Out.


So you are ok with someone killing another human because we don’t like what they say or believe?

I hate the message he was spreading but I don’t think that it’s right to kill another person for what they say.


No. But according to Charlie himself, gun deaths are the price we need to pay for freedom. Of course he probably thought that trans people, six year olds, and gangbangers were appropriate sacrifices to the God of the Second Amendment and never expected to see himself added to the pile of corpses. But there he is, and I’m not terribly sad about it.

Now, you can try to use my lack of caring as a reason to put a bullet in my own head and starve my babies. But what does that say about you? I’ll tell you - nothing good.


Because in your personal opinion his political beliefs are bad, you are indifferent to a man with young children, a wife, and parents who care about him being brutally murdered in front of the world.

Do you not see how this makes you an awful, awful human being?


Saying racist and misogynistic things isn’t a matter of opinion.


Speech can cause real harm. Speech is and should be protected, but dehumanizing people the way that Kirk did was evil. His killing was evil but he was also evil.
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Anonymous wrote:Because in your personal opinion his political beliefs are bad, you are indifferent to a man with young children, a wife, and parents who care about him being brutally murdered in front of the world.

Do you not see how this makes you an awful, awful human being?

What about the 40,000 other people who died by gun violence in the United States in the last year. There is too much crazy violence in America for me to get worked up about a guy like Kirk who did his best to promote chaos and division.

I can feel absolutely horrible that his kids lost their father without mourning his loss. No kid should lose a father..or mother. But...the guy was bad news and bad for America.


Single people dying is not great either. Why does it matter that he married and has kids?
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If the right is determined to turn Kirk into a martyr. The left is going to make a counter argument.

Neither side really cares a lick about Kirk as a human. He's a political symbol... that's it.

GOP is already raising money off his assassination.
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“The way you died does not redeem you for the way you lived”
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Anonymous wrote:Kirk died a violent death and that's not good. Still, he said really toxic stuff. I don't feel that my right to say so should be impugned. Didn't like his views. Thought he was bad news. I can't believe that in America, people are losing their jobs over that basic right. I think Donald Trump is a douche too. That does not mean I want someone to attack him. I don't. But I also don't want anyone limiting my right to say he is a douche.


“He deserved to die for his opinions but it is ridiculously unfair if I lose my job for expressing my opinions.”


“While Hitler may not have explicitly called on citizens to inform on their neighbors, the Nazi regime’s policies, propaganda, and legal frameworks effectively encouraged and institutionalized this behavior. The reliance on citizen informants was a critical component of the regime’s oppressive machinery, leading to widespread fear, distrust, and complicity among the population.”


The fact that you people refer to your political enemies as “hitler”, “nazi’s”, “fascists”, etc are exactly why this happened. I look forward to you continuing to lose elections.


When your main media outlet has an anchor who calls for the euthanization of America's homeless, the label isn't far off the mark. Is it?
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Anonymous wrote:It doesn’t help the case when our fbi director prematurely Tweets out that ‘we got the guy!’ only to back peddle - - never mind, we got the guy now, really! surely will help his defense.


Tyler confessed on discord, the gay bf is cooperating, the weapon is in evidence, the dna is on the gun, he's on camera all over the scene.

It's him, bro. But, go off...


He didn't confess on discord. The quotes I saw had him playing coy. "My doppleganger" etc

I think he probably did it but that's my opinion. It's not based on any objective facts or statements.

He was framed…
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Anonymous wrote:It doesn’t help the case when our fbi director prematurely Tweets out that ‘we got the guy!’ only to back peddle - - never mind, we got the guy now, really! surely will help his defense.


Tyler confessed on discord, the gay bf is cooperating, the weapon is in evidence, the dna is on the gun, he's on camera all over the scene.

It's him, bro. But, go off...


He didn't confess on discord. The quotes I saw had him playing coy. "My doppleganger" etc

I think he probably did it but that's my opinion. It's not based on any objective facts or statements.


Wrong.



That story was literally posted an hour ago.

Someone could have pretended to be Tyler on Discord?
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Yep. Things have changed.



Nolte: Charlie Kirk’s Assassination Flipped a Remarkable Switch in the MAGA Movement

"All at once, we’ve become impervious to the media’s usual tricks with the dual revelation that 1) the media are irredeemable and not worth our time, and 2) through alternative and social media, we hold the power in our country.

Democrats and the media are calling for unity. In the past, we’ve fallen for that trap. But this time the switch flipped, and our collective voice said: Go away. You didn’t ask for unity during the George Floyd riots. You never ask for unity when it’s your side. You demand only fealty.

Democrats and the media are calling for us to tone it down. Another trap we’ve fallen into. Not this time. This time our collective voice said: Go away. You never demand that your side tone down the rhetoric. It’s only ever us, and when we do, when the best of us seeks to have a civil dialogue with you, you publicly execute him to terrorize the rest of us.

Democrats and the media are desperate to emotionally blackmail us as we seek accountability for those who celebrate murder. Ah, yes, the old “muh principles” trap. Collectively, we say: Go away. We saw what you did to a nobody rodeo clown who wore an Obama mask. You destroyed his career and made every Republican lawmaker answer for him. Today, there are literally thousands and thousands of credentialed Democrats (teachers, lawyers, academics, health care professionals, etc.) inciting murder against us by celebrating Charlie Kirk’s murder, and you’ve done nothing other than defend them.

Our collective responses are glorious, and the most important part is the “go away” part.

We’re done with the media. We don’t need them. We know they want us dead.

“They call us Nazis — what do you think they want to happen to us?” asks Kurt Schlichter.

We’re not them, and the terrible loss of a prince burned into us a moral clarity…

They loot and burn. We hold candlelight vigils.

They cheer violence and murder. We do not.

They champion and fund domestic terror groups like Antifa and Black Lives Matter. We do not.

They cancel and blacklist people over opinions. We seek long-overdue accountability for celebrating violence.

We hold the power now.

And we’re wielding it — peacefully, lawfully, relentlessly, and mercilessly.

Everything’s changed forever. Where this ultimately leads or how successful it will be, I can’t say. But at long last, we understand the mission, understand the enemy, have joined arms, and are on the march.
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It’s such a grift. They were really hitting the skids with that Epstein files/Trump stroke/stagflation/failing economy stuff, but Kirk’s death has them right back on track.
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Anonymous wrote:“The way you died does not redeem you for the way you lived”

+100
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Anonymous wrote:Kirk died a violent death and that's not good. Still, he said really toxic stuff. I don't feel that my right to say so should be impugned. Didn't like his views. Thought he was bad news. I can't believe that in America, people are losing their jobs over that basic right. I think Donald Trump is a douche too. That does not mean I want someone to attack him. I don't. But I also don't want anyone limiting my right to say he is a douche.


I agree but the issue is that we have otherwise sane and logical people literally cheering his killing.

I’ve seen so many disgusting comments from people I work with and friends. It terrifies me to see this kind of hatred is inside them for another human.


If you want to be mourned in death, live a better life. It is as simple as that. Most people view this as a case of F’d Around and Found Out.


So you are ok with someone killing another human because we don’t like what they say or believe?

I hate the message he was spreading but I don’t think that it’s right to kill another person for what they say.


No. But according to Charlie himself, gun deaths are the price we need to pay for freedom. Of course he probably thought that trans people, six year olds, and gangbangers were appropriate sacrifices to the God of the Second Amendment and never expected to see himself added to the pile of corpses. But there he is, and I’m not terribly sad about it.

Now, you can try to use my lack of caring as a reason to put a bullet in my own head and starve my babies. But what does that say about you? I’ll tell you - nothing good.


Because in your personal opinion his political beliefs are bad, you are indifferent to a man with young children, a wife, and parents who care about him being brutally murdered in front of the world.

Do you not see how this makes you an awful, awful human being?


NP I swear to god you people would be mad if people were happy hitler died.


I can't tell if you are talking about Trump or actually Hitler.
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Anonymous wrote:Yep. Things have changed.



Nolte: Charlie Kirk’s Assassination Flipped a Remarkable Switch in the MAGA Movement

"All at once, we’ve become impervious to the media’s usual tricks with the dual revelation that 1) the media are irredeemable and not worth our time, and 2) through alternative and social media, we hold the power in our country.

Democrats and the media are calling for unity. In the past, we’ve fallen for that trap. But this time the switch flipped, and our collective voice said: Go away. You didn’t ask for unity during the George Floyd riots. You never ask for unity when it’s your side. You demand only fealty.

Democrats and the media are calling for us to tone it down. Another trap we’ve fallen into. Not this time. This time our collective voice said: Go away. You never demand that your side tone down the rhetoric. It’s only ever us, and when we do, when the best of us seeks to have a civil dialogue with you, you publicly execute him to terrorize the rest of us.

Democrats and the media are desperate to emotionally blackmail us as we seek accountability for those who celebrate murder. Ah, yes, the old “muh principles” trap. Collectively, we say: Go away. We saw what you did to a nobody rodeo clown who wore an Obama mask. You destroyed his career and made every Republican lawmaker answer for him. Today, there are literally thousands and thousands of credentialed Democrats (teachers, lawyers, academics, health care professionals, etc.) inciting murder against us by celebrating Charlie Kirk’s murder, and you’ve done nothing other than defend them.

Our collective responses are glorious, and the most important part is the “go away” part.

We’re done with the media. We don’t need them. We know they want us dead.

“They call us Nazis — what do you think they want to happen to us?” asks Kurt Schlichter.

We’re not them, and the terrible loss of a prince burned into us a moral clarity…

They loot and burn. We hold candlelight vigils.

They cheer violence and murder. We do not.

They champion and fund domestic terror groups like Antifa and Black Lives Matter. We do not.

They cancel and blacklist people over opinions. We seek long-overdue accountability for celebrating violence.

We hold the power now.

And we’re wielding it — peacefully, lawfully, relentlessly, and mercilessly.

Everything’s changed forever. Where this ultimately leads or how successful it will be, I can’t say. But at long last, we understand the mission, understand the enemy, have joined arms, and are on the march.


Settle down, Himmler.
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Anonymous wrote:Yep. Things have changed.



Nolte: Charlie Kirk’s Assassination Flipped a Remarkable Switch in the MAGA Movement

"All at once, we’ve become impervious to the media’s usual tricks with the dual revelation that 1) the media are irredeemable and not worth our time, and 2) through alternative and social media, we hold the power in our country.

Democrats and the media are calling for unity. In the past, we’ve fallen for that trap. But this time the switch flipped, and our collective voice said: Go away. You didn’t ask for unity during the George Floyd riots. You never ask for unity when it’s your side. You demand only fealty.

Democrats and the media are calling for us to tone it down. Another trap we’ve fallen into. Not this time. This time our collective voice said: Go away. You never demand that your side tone down the rhetoric. It’s only ever us, and when we do, when the best of us seeks to have a civil dialogue with you, you publicly execute him to terrorize the rest of us.

Democrats and the media are desperate to emotionally blackmail us as we seek accountability for those who celebrate murder. Ah, yes, the old “muh principles” trap. Collectively, we say: Go away. We saw what you did to a nobody rodeo clown who wore an Obama mask. You destroyed his career and made every Republican lawmaker answer for him. Today, there are literally thousands and thousands of credentialed Democrats (teachers, lawyers, academics, health care professionals, etc.) inciting murder against us by celebrating Charlie Kirk’s murder, and you’ve done nothing other than defend them.

Our collective responses are glorious, and the most important part is the “go away” part.

We’re done with the media. We don’t need them. We know they want us dead.

“They call us Nazis — what do you think they want to happen to us?” asks Kurt Schlichter.

We’re not them, and the terrible loss of a prince burned into us a moral clarity…

They loot and burn. We hold candlelight vigils.

They cheer violence and murder. We do not.

They champion and fund domestic terror groups like Antifa and Black Lives Matter. We do not.

They cancel and blacklist people over opinions. We seek long-overdue accountability for celebrating violence.

We hold the power now.

And we’re wielding it — peacefully, lawfully, relentlessly, and mercilessly.

Everything’s changed forever. Where this ultimately leads or how successful it will be, I can’t say. But at long last, we understand the mission, understand the enemy, have joined arms, and are on the march.


MAGA is never coming back, those folks are lost to society. We should non-violently formalize the breakup and hope that the billionaires funding the misinformation campaigns continue to support them in some way, though their usefulness as suckers will have expired.
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Anonymous wrote:Yep. Things have changed.



Nolte: Charlie Kirk’s Assassination Flipped a Remarkable Switch in the MAGA Movement

"All at once, we’ve become impervious to the media’s usual tricks with the dual revelation that 1) the media are irredeemable and not worth our time, and 2) through alternative and social media, we hold the power in our country.

Democrats and the media are calling for unity. In the past, we’ve fallen for that trap. But this time the switch flipped, and our collective voice said: Go away. You didn’t ask for unity during the George Floyd riots. You never ask for unity when it’s your side. You demand only fealty.

Democrats and the media are calling for us to tone it down. Another trap we’ve fallen into. Not this time. This time our collective voice said: Go away. You never demand that your side tone down the rhetoric. It’s only ever us, and when we do, when the best of us seeks to have a civil dialogue with you, you publicly execute him to terrorize the rest of us.

Democrats and the media are desperate to emotionally blackmail us as we seek accountability for those who celebrate murder. Ah, yes, the old “muh principles” trap. Collectively, we say: Go away. We saw what you did to a nobody rodeo clown who wore an Obama mask. You destroyed his career and made every Republican lawmaker answer for him. Today, there are literally thousands and thousands of credentialed Democrats (teachers, lawyers, academics, health care professionals, etc.) inciting murder against us by celebrating Charlie Kirk’s murder, and you’ve done nothing other than defend them.

Our collective responses are glorious, and the most important part is the “go away” part.

We’re done with the media. We don’t need them. We know they want us dead.

“They call us Nazis — what do you think they want to happen to us?” asks Kurt Schlichter.

We’re not them, and the terrible loss of a prince burned into us a moral clarity…

They loot and burn. We hold candlelight vigils.

They cheer violence and murder. We do not.

They champion and fund domestic terror groups like Antifa and Black Lives Matter. We do not.

They cancel and blacklist people over opinions. We seek long-overdue accountability for celebrating violence.

We hold the power now.

And we’re wielding it — peacefully, lawfully, relentlessly, and mercilessly.

Everything’s changed forever. Where this ultimately leads or how successful it will be, I can’t say. But at long last, we understand the mission, understand the enemy, have joined arms, and are on the march.


I ain’t reading all that. I’m happy for you though. Or sorry that happened.
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