UHC CEO Gunned Down in Midtown Manhattan

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wonder if I can put money in his prison account?

Go ahead.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I predict jury nullification. United Health can afford to pays its executives $$$$$$$$$$$$, so it can deny $$$ insurance claims. Didn't feel sorry for the man then and still don't feel sorry for him or his family because they benefited from screwing people who paid hefty premiums for their claims to be denied.

There's nearly no chance for jury nullification unless the defense can come up with something that lets jurors argue reasonable doubt, even if it is a stretch. Otherwise the most you'll get is a hung jury, with him remaining remanded pending retrial.

Every one has an insurance horror story and it doesn't have to be United.

And most people know murder is wrong.

+1 I can't believe the people in this forum who rationalize breaking the law in various ways, including murder. Disgusting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I predict jury nullification. United Health can afford to pays its executives $$$$$$$$$$$$, so it can deny $$$ insurance claims. Didn't feel sorry for the man then and still don't feel sorry for him or his family because they benefited from screwing people who paid hefty premiums for their claims to be denied.

There's nearly no chance for jury nullification unless the defense can come up with something that lets jurors argue reasonable doubt, even if it is a stretch. Otherwise the most you'll get is a hung jury, with him remaining remanded pending retrial.

Every one has an insurance horror story and it doesn't have to be United.

Everyone in the UK on NHS only and in Canada on their National insurance has horror stories too.

What’s your point? Free R&D, meds, treatments, surgeries, appointments for all? How’s that play out for citizens, illegals and tourists?

I have no knowledge of UK or Canada only US health insurance and I have also been very fortunate to have insurance companies that paid. However, I have a dear friend who needed open heart surgery and had United and she went through holy hell with them.

I believe that there should be Medicare for every US citizen and if non-citizens wish to pay the same as citizens pay, fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I predict jury nullification. United Health can afford to pays its executives $$$$$$$$$$$$, so it can deny $$$ insurance claims. Didn't feel sorry for the man then and still don't feel sorry for him or his family because they benefited from screwing people who paid hefty premiums for their claims to be denied.

There's nearly no chance for jury nullification unless the defense can come up with something that lets jurors argue reasonable doubt, even if it is a stretch. Otherwise the most you'll get is a hung jury, with him remaining remanded pending retrial.

Every one has an insurance horror story and it doesn't have to be United.

And most people know murder is wrong.

+1 I can't believe the people in this forum who rationalize breaking the law in various ways, including murder. Disgusting.

Murder is wrong, but let's not pretend like "the law" is based around morality or ethics. The UHC CEO may have been doing legal things, but far from moral or ethical. Luigi has blood on his hands, yes. But far, FAR less than the guy he killed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He was caught on video lying in wait and committing the murder. He’s toast.

Someone that bears a vague resemblance in low light. AI can fake video now. Nothing is real, nothing is certain.

Please. There was also the eye witness woman drinking coffee who ran.

Eye witness in low light. Practically useless.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I predict jury nullification. United Health can afford to pays its executives $$$$$$$$$$$$, so it can deny $$$ insurance claims. Didn't feel sorry for the man then and still don't feel sorry for him or his family because they benefited from screwing people who paid hefty premiums for their claims to be denied.

There's nearly no chance for jury nullification unless the defense can come up with something that lets jurors argue reasonable doubt, even if it is a stretch. Otherwise the most you'll get is a hung jury, with him remaining remanded pending retrial.

Every one has an insurance horror story and it doesn't have to be United.

And most people know murder is wrong.

+1 I can't believe the people in this forum who rationalize breaking the law in various ways, including murder. Disgusting.

Murder is wrong, but let's not pretend like "the law" is based around morality or ethics. The UHC CEO may have been doing legal things, but far from moral or ethical. Luigi has blood on his hands, yes. But far, FAR less than the guy he killed.

That's an interesting justice system.

[Anonymous]

Just as prison and the death penalty are supposed to be deterrents to bad behavior by others, maybe this will act as a deterrent to other health insurance executives acting in ways that screw their paying clients. I doubt it, but if the stakes were high enough, maybe these people would act in good faith and with empathy. After, of course, their 3rd vacation home is paid off.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He was caught on video lying in wait and committing the murder. He’s toast.

Someone that bears a vague resemblance in low light. AI can fake video now. Nothing is real, nothing is certain.

Please. There was also the eye witness woman drinking coffee who ran.

Eye witness in low light. Practically useless.

She should have thrown her coffee at his face, pinned him to the cargo van, and kneed him in the crotch. Then called 911.
The Nigerian cargo driver should have then got out and further incapacitated him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just as prison and the death penalty are supposed to be deterrents to bad behavior by others, maybe this will act as a deterrent to other health insurance executives acting in ways that screw their paying clients. I doubt it, but if the stakes were high enough, maybe these people would act in good faith and with empathy. After, of course, their 3rd vacation home is paid off.

You seem to like to conflate big complex systems with one proxy person. Must be all your mind can handle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He was caught on video lying in wait and committing the murder. He’s toast.

Someone that bears a vague resemblance in low light. AI can fake video now. Nothing is real, nothing is certain.

Please. There was also the eye witness woman drinking coffee who ran.

Eye witness in low light. Practically useless.

She should have thrown her coffee at his face, pinned him to the cargo van, and kneed him in the crotch. Then called 911.
The Nigerian cargo driver should have then got out and further incapacitated him.

"Did you get a good look at the shooter while you were running away from the scene?"

"Do all Italian people look alike to you?"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just as prison and the death penalty are supposed to be deterrents to bad behavior by others, maybe this will act as a deterrent to other health insurance executives acting in ways that screw their paying clients. I doubt it, but if the stakes were high enough, maybe these people would act in good faith and with empathy. After, of course, their 3rd vacation home is paid off.

You seem to like to conflate big complex systems with one proxy person. Must be all your mind can handle.

You are apparently an employee of a health insurer and are simply hurt because you are viewed as the lowest of the low. Beneath lawyers, used car salesmen, politicians, fraudsters and others who lurk around the underbelly of society.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just as prison and the death penalty are supposed to be deterrents to bad behavior by others, maybe this will act as a deterrent to other health insurance executives acting in ways that screw their paying clients. I doubt it, but if the stakes were high enough, maybe these people would act in good faith and with empathy. After, of course, their 3rd vacation home is paid off.

You seem to like to conflate big complex systems with one proxy person. Must be all your mind can handle.

You are apparently an employee of a health insurer and are simply hurt because you are viewed as the lowest of the low. Beneath lawyers, used car salesmen, politicians, fraudsters and others who lurk around the underbelly of society.

No. I’m British, work at a family office, and have had NHS + private health insurance via my employer my whole life. I pay the 9-11% per paycheck to NHS to do routine stuff, and they pay the 30k quid private plan, which we use for anything non routine. Took my parents 15 mos to get hearing aids on NHS. At least end of life care isn’t done here so I don’t have to bankrupt them first or during that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just as prison and the death penalty are supposed to be deterrents to bad behavior by others, maybe this will act as a deterrent to other health insurance executives acting in ways that screw their paying clients. I doubt it, but if the stakes were high enough, maybe these people would act in good faith and with empathy. After, of course, their 3rd vacation home is paid off.

You seem to like to conflate big complex systems with one proxy person. Must be all your mind can handle.

You are apparently an employee of a health insurer and are simply hurt because you are viewed as the lowest of the low. Beneath lawyers, used car salesmen, politicians, fraudsters and others who lurk around the underbelly of society.

Overs implying things with incorrect identity labels again we see….
Lack of information suits you and your false claims well. You’d be annihilated at any of my former uni or grad school classes or my board mtgs. And shown the door.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just as prison and the death penalty are supposed to be deterrents to bad behavior by others, maybe this will act as a deterrent to other health insurance executives acting in ways that screw their paying clients. I doubt it, but if the stakes were high enough, maybe these people would act in good faith and with empathy. After, of course, their 3rd vacation home is paid off.

Guess you're in favor of just shooting to death the violent men who stabbed and set fire to the innocent women traveling on public transportation? Just shoot all murderers to death?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just as prison and the death penalty are supposed to be deterrents to bad behavior by others, maybe this will act as a deterrent to other health insurance executives acting in ways that screw their paying clients. I doubt it, but if the stakes were high enough, maybe these people would act in good faith and with empathy. After, of course, their 3rd vacation home is paid off.

Guess you're in favor of just shooting to death the violent men who stabbed and set fire to the innocent women traveling on public transportation? Just shoot all murderers to death?

As long the number of people you kill is less than the number they killed, you are golden.

I will assume that equal numbers, i.e., eye for an eye is OK as well.