Kyle Rittenhouse: Vigilante White Men

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Complete self-defense. Lots of people on here spouting fake facts and making up their own little narratives. Most don’t even know what truly happened. Get the real facts.

First of all, you don’t know that. Secondly, even if it is found to be self-defense, you still immediately get arrested! You don’t just get to high five the cops and keep going.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:yes, perfect cause celebre for the gop - party of monsters

Doesn't matter. George Floyd was no saint too. He just had the misfortune to die an unjust death on camera. And this kid had the misfortune to get himself in a bad spot. He's lucky he isn't dead, so maybe this will work out for him, like that Kentucky Catholic kid.

of course it matters. it shows that Rittenhouse is an aggressive violent hothead, which supports the narrative that the victims were trying to disarm him after he was making threats.

otoh nothing in the George Floyd incident supports that the police needed to kneel on his neck for 8 minutes.

He's not acting aggressive there. He's acting clueless. They said he pointed a gun at them earlier. He didn't even react. There's definitely something wrong with him. Can't tell from that video what it is.

You both are clearly ignorant about laws. This was a clear case of self-defense.

I have seen this broken down by multiple criminal attorneys and researched it fully. There are actual reliable testimony from the camera man ( didn’t know either the gunman or the victims prior to that night) and several videos explaining exactly what had happened.

Kyle went there to protect his friends store that was vandalized the night prior. Yes, he was 17 and from Antioch, IL ( I’m a local and it’s only a 30 minute drive to Kenosha, and far less what others, including some of the victims, drove to get there). He did not transport the AR-15 across state lines - it was his friends gun who lives I’m WI. It was legal for Kyle to open carry a long gun in IL. Kyle was also there with medic supplies. He has been in multiple cadet programs for lifeguard, firefighter, and police.

Kyle and his friends were confronted by protestors and one of the victims can be seen on video shouting racial slurs and telling Kyle to “ shoot me, n word”,
“ shoot me, n word”. Then the protestors leave and set a garbage can on fire to push into a police car. Kyle gets a fire extinguisher and puts the fire out. The man who earlier confronted Kyle, starts to chase Kyle through the parking lots. He throws something at him but he misses. He keeps chasing Kyle and corners him. He reaches for Kyles gun and Kyle fires. At the start of the chase, someone ( unknown) fires a handgun into the crowd. Kyle calls his friend and said “ I just killed somebody”. People are then telling him to leave and then they start saying “ get this mother F”.

Kyle starts running towards the police a couple of blocks down and a group of people start running after him. One guy hits Kyle in the back of the head and then another hits him and he trips and falls to the ground. Another person shoots a handgun but misses. One guy tries to kick Kyle in the head but he misses. The second victim who died hits Kyle with a skateboard in the head and gets shot. The third guy ( who has a gun in his hand) has his hands up and Kyle hesitates. The guy then lunges again and Kyle shoots him in the arm. Another guy puts his hands up and Kyle does not shoot. He then goes to the cops.

To me it was a clear case of self-defense. What many of you fail to realize is just because Kyle may have broken the law by being there across state lines as a minor, that does not mean he forfeits his right to protect himself if he feels he is at risk of Grey bodily harm or death. Even if Kyle was an aggressor earlier that evening, once he is retreating from the situation, he is no longer the aggressor.

The camera backed up and gave full account showing Kyle attempted to retreat both times before he used the gun to protect himself. I have no doubt he would have been killed or beaten severely by both groups had he not had the gun to defend himself.

The guy shot in the arm even said later in the hospital said his only regret was “ not shooting him first and emptying the entire mag into him”. That shows he would have shot Kyle ( his gun was aimed at his head) if Kyle had not shot him first.

All 3 victims had multiple records for sexual abuse and domestic violence charges. The victim who lived was in possession of an illegal firearm since he is a felon. Not that it makes anything right. They are just not the poster boy heroes the media is making them out to be.

I’m in no way defending what Kyle did. I don’t wish death on anyone. I wish him ( and everyone) would have stayed home. That didn’t happen and I believe Kyle acted in self-defense both times. Multiple lawyers have said its a clear case of self-defense.

These are the facts and accounts of what happened.

PP here. What will most likely help his case is Kyle didn’t shoot wildly and indiscriminately. He only shot those that were a threat, and even hesitated to shoot the third guy who looked like he was going to back off. He only shot him once he lunged at him again. He did not shoot the other guy who was close to him who put his hands up.

The camera man kept up the entire time and he gave this full account of what happened, along with video. He said Kyle acted in self-defense after being attacked twice. There are multiple interviews with him prior and it doesn’t suggest he was out to hurt anyone. He even has clips with Kyle running around asking if anyone needs medical help.

Now tell us how it was legal for Trump to withhold funds from Ukraine.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:yes, perfect cause celebre for the gop - party of monsters

Doesn't matter. George Floyd was no saint too. He just had the misfortune to die an unjust death on camera. And this kid had the misfortune to get himself in a bad spot. He's lucky he isn't dead, so maybe this will work out for him, like that Kentucky Catholic kid.

of course it matters. it shows that Rittenhouse is an aggressive violent hothead, which supports the narrative that the victims were trying to disarm him after he was making threats.

otoh nothing in the George Floyd incident supports that the police needed to kneel on his neck for 8 minutes.

He's not acting aggressive there. He's acting clueless. They said he pointed a gun at them earlier. He didn't even react. There's definitely something wrong with him. Can't tell from that video what it is.

You both are clearly ignorant about laws. This was a clear case of self-defense.

I have seen this broken down by multiple criminal attorneys and researched it fully. There are actual reliable testimony from the camera man ( didn’t know either the gunman or the victims prior to that night) and several videos explaining exactly what had happened.

Kyle went there to protect his friends store that was vandalized the night prior. Yes, he was 17 and from Antioch, IL ( I’m a local and it’s only a 30 minute drive to Kenosha, and far less what others, including some of the victims, drove to get there). He did not transport the AR-15 across state lines - it was his friends gun who lives I’m WI. It was legal for Kyle to open carry a long gun in IL. Kyle was also there with medic supplies. He has been in multiple cadet programs for lifeguard, firefighter, and police.

Kyle and his friends were confronted by protestors and one of the victims can be seen on video shouting racial slurs and telling Kyle to “ shoot me, n word”,
“ shoot me, n word”. Then the protestors leave and set a garbage can on fire to push into a police car. Kyle gets a fire extinguisher and puts the fire out. The man who earlier confronted Kyle, starts to chase Kyle through the parking lots. He throws something at him but he misses. He keeps chasing Kyle and corners him. He reaches for Kyles gun and Kyle fires. At the start of the chase, someone ( unknown) fires a handgun into the crowd. Kyle calls his friend and said “ I just killed somebody”. People are then telling him to leave and then they start saying “ get this mother F”.

Kyle starts running towards the police a couple of blocks down and a group of people start running after him. One guy hits Kyle in the back of the head and then another hits him and he trips and falls to the ground. Another person shoots a handgun but misses. One guy tries to kick Kyle in the head but he misses. The second victim who died hits Kyle with a skateboard in the head and gets shot. The third guy ( who has a gun in his hand) has his hands up and Kyle hesitates. The guy then lunges again and Kyle shoots him in the arm. Another guy puts his hands up and Kyle does not shoot. He then goes to the cops.

To me it was a clear case of self-defense. What many of you fail to realize is just because Kyle may have broken the law by being there across state lines as a minor, that does not mean he forfeits his right to protect himself if he feels he is at risk of Grey bodily harm or death. Even if Kyle was an aggressor earlier that evening, once he is retreating from the situation, he is no longer the aggressor.

The camera backed up and gave full account showing Kyle attempted to retreat both times before he used the gun to protect himself. I have no doubt he would have been killed or beaten severely by both groups had he not had the gun to defend himself.

The guy shot in the arm even said later in the hospital said his only regret was “ not shooting him first and emptying the entire mag into him”. That shows he would have shot Kyle ( his gun was aimed at his head) if Kyle had not shot him first.

All 3 victims had multiple records for sexual abuse and domestic violence charges. The victim who lived was in possession of an illegal firearm since he is a felon. Not that it makes anything right. They are just not the poster boy heroes the media is making them out to be.

I’m in no way defending what Kyle did. I don’t wish death on anyone. I wish him ( and everyone) would have stayed home. That didn’t happen and I believe Kyle acted in self-defense both times. Multiple lawyers have said its a clear case of self-defense.

These are the facts and accounts of what happened.

They are ignorant of the law, but you are not a lawyer and have an opinion based on your “friends.” I am a lawyer and you know what, I’m smart enough to know that while I think he will have a hard time claiming self defense, we are months or years away from a trial.

[Anonymous]

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You both are clearly ignorant about laws. This was a clear case of self-defense.

I have seen this broken down by multiple criminal attorneys and researched it fully. There are actual reliable testimony from the camera man ( didn’t know either the gunman or the victims prior to that night) and several videos explaining exactly what had happened.

Kyle went there to protect his friends store that was vandalized the night prior. Yes, he was 17 and from Antioch, IL ( I’m a local and it’s only a 30 minute drive to Kenosha, and far less what others, including some of the victims, drove to get there). He did not transport the AR-15 across state lines - it was his friends gun who lives I’m WI. It was legal for Kyle to open carry a long gun in IL. Kyle was also there with medic supplies. He has been in multiple cadet programs for lifeguard, firefighter, and police.

Kyle and his friends were confronted by protestors and one of the victims can be seen on video shouting racial slurs and telling Kyle to “ shoot me, n word”,
“ shoot me, n word”. Then the protestors leave and set a garbage can on fire to push into a police car. Kyle gets a fire extinguisher and puts the fire out. The man who earlier confronted Kyle, starts to chase Kyle through the parking lots. He throws something at him but he misses. He keeps chasing Kyle and corners him. He reaches for Kyles gun and Kyle fires. At the start of the chase, someone ( unknown) fires a handgun into the crowd. Kyle calls his friend and said “ I just killed somebody”. People are then telling him to leave and then they start saying “ get this mother F”.

Kyle starts running towards the police a couple of blocks down and a group of people start running after him. One guy hits Kyle in the back of the head and then another hits him and he trips and falls to the ground. Another person shoots a handgun but misses. One guy tries to kick Kyle in the head but he misses. The second victim who died hits Kyle with a skateboard in the head and gets shot. The third guy ( who has a gun in his hand) has his hands up and Kyle hesitates. The guy then lunges again and Kyle shoots him in the arm. Another guy puts his hands up and Kyle does not shoot. He then goes to the cops.

To me it was a clear case of self-defense. What many of you fail to realize is just because Kyle may have broken the law by being there across state lines as a minor, that does not mean he forfeits his right to protect himself if he feels he is at risk of Grey bodily harm or death. Even if Kyle was an aggressor earlier that evening, once he is retreating from the situation, he is no longer the aggressor.

The camera backed up and gave full account showing Kyle attempted to retreat both times before he used the gun to protect himself. I have no doubt he would have been killed or beaten severely by both groups had he not had the gun to defend himself.

The guy shot in the arm even said later in the hospital said his only regret was “ not shooting him first and emptying the entire mag into him”. That shows he would have shot Kyle ( his gun was aimed at his head) if Kyle had not shot him first.

All 3 victims had multiple records for sexual abuse and domestic violence charges. The victim who lived was in possession of an illegal firearm since he is a felon. Not that it makes anything right. They are just not the poster boy heroes the media is making them out to be.

I’m in no way defending what Kyle did. I don’t wish death on anyone. I wish him ( and everyone) would have stayed home. That didn’t happen and I believe Kyle acted in self-defense both times. Multiple lawyers have said its a clear case of self-defense.

These are the facts and accounts of what happened.

He also had no business being there with an out of state gun. Did the store owner ask or employ him to come? Seriously, this is BS. He shold not have been there, didn't have the physical or mental maturity to handle the situation and killed two people and maimed another. Zero sympathy.

And seriously, you are a kid in Illinois posting on a mom's message board in DC?

The store owner was one of the people there with him. Some reports are one of the stores he protected was Kyles grandparents and Kyle worked there.

The gun was not out of state. It was a friends gun who is from WI and the gun is WI registered.

You see it your way. None of those people had the right to be there. He did nothing wrong.

Same goes for the Trump supporter in Portland. I’m not sure about all of that but if it’s true the guy maced the shooter prior to be shot, he has a clear case of self-defense.

[Anonymous]

he killed two people. i think he did at least two things wrong.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:yes, perfect cause celebre for the gop - party of monsters

Doesn't matter. George Floyd was no saint too. He just had the misfortune to die an unjust death on camera. And this kid had the misfortune to get himself in a bad spot. He's lucky he isn't dead, so maybe this will work out for him, like that Kentucky Catholic kid.

of course it matters. it shows that Rittenhouse is an aggressive violent hothead, which supports the narrative that the victims were trying to disarm him after he was making threats.

otoh nothing in the George Floyd incident supports that the police needed to kneel on his neck for 8 minutes.

He's not acting aggressive there. He's acting clueless. They said he pointed a gun at them earlier. He didn't even react. There's definitely something wrong with him. Can't tell from that video what it is.

You both are clearly ignorant about laws. This was a clear case of self-defense.

I have seen this broken down by multiple criminal attorneys and researched it fully. There are actual reliable testimony from the camera man ( didn’t know either the gunman or the victims prior to that night) and several videos explaining exactly what had happened.

Kyle went there to protect his friends store that was vandalized the night prior. Yes, he was 17 and from Antioch, IL ( I’m a local and it’s only a 30 minute drive to Kenosha, and far less what others, including some of the victims, drove to get there). He did not transport the AR-15 across state lines - it was his friends gun who lives I’m WI. It was legal for Kyle to open carry a long gun in IL. Kyle was also there with medic supplies. He has been in multiple cadet programs for lifeguard, firefighter, and police.

Kyle and his friends were confronted by protestors and one of the victims can be seen on video shouting racial slurs and telling Kyle to “ shoot me, n word”,
“ shoot me, n word”. Then the protestors leave and set a garbage can on fire to push into a police car. Kyle gets a fire extinguisher and puts the fire out. The man who earlier confronted Kyle, starts to chase Kyle through the parking lots. He throws something at him but he misses. He keeps chasing Kyle and corners him. He reaches for Kyles gun and Kyle fires. At the start of the chase, someone ( unknown) fires a handgun into the crowd. Kyle calls his friend and said “ I just killed somebody”. People are then telling him to leave and then they start saying “ get this mother F”.

Kyle starts running towards the police a couple of blocks down and a group of people start running after him. One guy hits Kyle in the back of the head and then another hits him and he trips and falls to the ground. Another person shoots a handgun but misses. One guy tries to kick Kyle in the head but he misses. The second victim who died hits Kyle with a skateboard in the head and gets shot. The third guy ( who has a gun in his hand) has his hands up and Kyle hesitates. The guy then lunges again and Kyle shoots him in the arm. Another guy puts his hands up and Kyle does not shoot. He then goes to the cops.

To me it was a clear case of self-defense. What many of you fail to realize is just because Kyle may have broken the law by being there across state lines as a minor, that does not mean he forfeits his right to protect himself if he feels he is at risk of Grey bodily harm or death. Even if Kyle was an aggressor earlier that evening, once he is retreating from the situation, he is no longer the aggressor.

The camera backed up and gave full account showing Kyle attempted to retreat both times before he used the gun to protect himself. I have no doubt he would have been killed or beaten severely by both groups had he not had the gun to defend himself.

The guy shot in the arm even said later in the hospital said his only regret was “ not shooting him first and emptying the entire mag into him”. That shows he would have shot Kyle ( his gun was aimed at his head) if Kyle had not shot him first.

All 3 victims had multiple records for sexual abuse and domestic violence charges. The victim who lived was in possession of an illegal firearm since he is a felon. Not that it makes anything right. They are just not the poster boy heroes the media is making them out to be.

I’m in no way defending what Kyle did. I don’t wish death on anyone. I wish him ( and everyone) would have stayed home. That didn’t happen and I believe Kyle acted in self-defense both times. Multiple lawyers have said its a clear case of self-defense.

These are the facts and accounts of what happened.

They are ignorant of the law, but you are not a lawyer and have an opinion based on your “friends.” I am a lawyer and you know what, I’m smart enough to know that while I think he will have a hard time claiming self defense, we are months or years away from a trial.

You just not be a good one. You don’t know what you’re talking about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:he killed two people. i think he did at least two things wrong.

I’m not talking from a moral stand point. I’m talking from a law standpoint. It was self-defense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. The looter shot in the head didn’t look very happy in the video. I wonder if he learned anything.

This is what we get when elected officials do not enforce laws that protect society.

Kenosha is getting exactly what they voted for.
Not very pretty is it?

+1. He targeted the shooter. As many have said, don’t chase a kid was a damn AR-15. “
“F*cked around and found out”.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. The looter shot in the head didn’t look very happy in the video. I wonder if he learned anything.

This is what we get when elected officials do not enforce laws that protect society.

Kenosha is getting exactly what they voted for.
Not very pretty is it?

The people who were killed were actually in retreat from the scene. This kid is going to do 20-30 for murder.

This is beyond false. Video shows the exact opposite.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:he killed two people. i think he did at least two things wrong.

I’m not talking from a moral stand point. I’m talking from a law standpoint. It was self-defense.

You're talking out your behind. You and yours think it was self defense. The fact he's been charged suggests that at least some experts disagree. We will see how this goes in court.

It would be pretty refreshing to hear right wingers show the slightest concern that this child was roaming around a city where he doesn't live at 2 in the morning with a military style weapon, and killed two people. Are you ok with child soldiers, and that's why you're all right with this teenager essentially behaving like a militia-man? As a person who values peace, order, and safety, I certainly don't want child soldiers out on my street in the middle of the night with AR-15s looking for people they can shoot in self defense or not. I want them home, where they belong. This is a gross and disordered society that sees otherwise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why is he wearing latex gloves? It's not a virus thing because he's not wearing a mask.

He had medical supplies and was helping people who needed a medic. I would be wearing gloves too since none of those people are wearing masks or social distancing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why is he wearing latex gloves? It's not a virus thing because he's not wearing a mask.

He had medical supplies and was helping people who needed a medic. I would be wearing gloves too since none of those people are wearing masks or social distancing.

Uh huh

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:he killed two people. i think he did at least two things wrong.

I’m not talking from a moral stand point. I’m talking from a law standpoint. It was self-defense.

You're talking out your behind. You and yours think it was self defense. The fact he's been charged suggests that at least some experts disagree. We will see how this goes in court.

It would be pretty refreshing to hear right wingers show the slightest concern that this child was roaming around a city where he doesn't live at 2 in the morning with a military style weapon, and killed two people. Are you ok with child soldiers, and that's why you're all right with this teenager essentially behaving like a militia-man? As a person who values peace, order, and safety, I certainly don't want child soldiers out on my street in the middle of the night with AR-15s looking for people they can shoot in self defense or not. I want them home, where they belong. This is a gross and disordered society that sees otherwise.

Now you are. Do you realize people get charged with crimes all of the time and it can be self-defense. I believe he will get off.

All of those people were out past curfew. Most do them weren’t local and drove farther than the shooter to riot and burn the city down. I’m not okay with anyone getting shot, but I will admit self-defense when it is. I’m not okay with child soldiers, just as I’m not okay with people rioting.

If the shooter wasn’t attacked prior to using his gun, or shot those who were not an imminent threat to him, I would not be defending him. This goes for the Portland shooter too. If the man who shot the trump supporter has proof the man tried to mace him before getting shot, he has a good case for self-defense.

Look how many innocent people have been attacked by these “ protestors”. City officials are not doing anything and telling cops to stand down. People are sick and tired of the lawlessness and these rioters destroying things and assaulting people. Why is it that all of those victims, and many rioters have criminal records? All of these people have no right being out there.


And for you say “ you and your people”? I stand alone. I’m not a for the left or the right. I’m against politics in general and feel both sides are corrupt and just want to line their pockets.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why is he wearing latex gloves? It's not a virus thing because he's not wearing a mask.

He had medical supplies and was helping people who needed a medic. I would be wearing gloves too since none of those people are wearing masks or social distancing.

Uh huh

Sorry but have you even watched the video or some any research besides watched CNN? Fake news media. There are multiple videos of Kyle prior to the shooting running around asking if people need a medic.

Are you just upset you’re white and couldn’t sacrifice another white person to these violent criminals? I’m sure you would supporting and cheering if this kid was violently attacked or killed like dozens of innocent people are just for simply being white or trying to protect their businesses. You seem to be in favor and support of thugs who destroy communities and attack people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’d like to hear the prosecutor’s thought process on charging the shooter. In the video where he shoots one person, the shooter is clearly trying to run away and the shooter kills the person who chased him (and deceased chaser clearly threw a Molotov cocktail at the shooter 3 seconds before he was shot)

In the video where he shoots two people, he’s clearly being attacked by a mob and the shooter is down on the ground. One person he shoots is trying to bash his head in with a skateboard and pictures seem to indicate the second wounded person in the mob had a gun.

This is basically a law school hypo from criminal law. Shooter shouldn’t have been there, he was underage, open carrying, but based on the video, against all desire, you have to argue self defense.

+1. Self-defense.