Kushner, Manafort and Don Jr. met with a Russian lawyer with Kremlin ties during the campaign

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have a question to all you brilliant DCUM legal minds out there. What's the legal standard/definition for collusion in this context? The more that comes out, the more certain it sounds like the Trump campaign had at least some knowledge of Russian involvement in the election during campaign season. However, this doesn't necessarily mean they acted on this knowledge. But would being complicit meet a collusion threshold test?

My pure speculation here. I have a feeling all these meetings that took place were about the Russians telling the Trump campaign what kind of information they had and what they were going to do with the information, while team Trump so sat there and nodded their heads.

I don't know. But let me ask you this,

Guy talks to a 14 YO girl online. Agrees to meet her for sex.

Shows up, no sex. Instead, an officer waiting to arrest him.

He's guilty of attempting to have sex with her and goes to jail.

Uday electronically agreed to meet with the Russians to get info. Showed up, no info. But he still went to the meeting. Question is what was his intent? Was his intent to collude? Is attempted treason illegal or just successful treason?

I am beginning to think Richard Nixon was merely a man before his time.

So the proper comparison isn't to Hillary but to Weiner?

The proper comparison is a setup.

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/885001097420697606

https://twitter.com/SenJohnMcCain/status/588019015198625792

Lol. No. The emails show Trump Jr got himself into this mess himself.

I’d like to apologize to Eric Trump. We always thought you were the dumb one. We were wrong.” — STEPHEN COLBERT

It appears that this lawyer is an anti-trump plant. She was with McCain on anti putin meeting. Senator Grassley is asking how he got into this country when her permission to visit was not renewed.

Wingnuts gotta wing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It appears that this lawyer is an anti-trump plant. She was with McCain on anti putin meeting. Senator Grassley is asking how he got into this country when her permission to visit was not renewed.

Grasping in the throes of desperation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It appears that this lawyer is an anti-trump plant. She was with McCain on anti putin meeting. Senator Grassley is asking how she got into this country when her permission to visit was not renewed.

Grasping in the throes of desperation.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/07/12/grassley-probing-how-russian-lawyer-got-into-us-after-visa-denial.html

Why did the Obama admin approve her visa after the denial? What was the reason for the initial denial? You don't want to know?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It appears that this lawyer is an anti-trump plant. She was with McCain on anti putin meeting. Senator Grassley is asking how he got into this country when her permission to visit was not renewed.

Grasping in the throes of desperation.

+1 The important thing is that Trump Jr was offered damaging intel from a foreign government to influence an election and instead of running to report this to the FBI, he said "I love it." There's no way to spin this.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-meeting-russia-campaign_us_5963a7a0e4b0615b9e936e06

Stevens noted an episode during the 2000 presidential campaign when debate preparation materials from the campaign of then-Texas Gov. George W. Bush (R) were mysteriously mailed to the campaign of his Democratic opponent, then-Vice President Al Gore. Thomas Downey, Gore’s debate coach, contacted the FBI when he realized the package contained leaked information from Bush’s campaign.


Richard Painter, the former top ethics lawyer in Bush’s administration and a frequent Trump critic, suggested Trump Jr. ought to have done the same.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a question to all you brilliant DCUM legal minds out there. What's the legal standard/definition for collusion in this context? The more that comes out, the more certain it sounds like the Trump campaign had at least some knowledge of Russian involvement in the election during campaign season. However, this doesn't necessarily mean they acted on this knowledge. But would being complicit meet a collusion threshold test?

My pure speculation here. I have a feeling all these meetings that took place were about the Russians telling the Trump campaign what kind of information they had and what they were going to do with the information, while team Trump so sat there and nodded their heads.

I don't know. But let me ask you this,

Guy talks to a 14 YO girl online. Agrees to meet her for sex.

Shows up, no sex. Instead, an officer waiting to arrest him.

He's guilty of attempting to have sex with her and goes to jail.

Uday electronically agreed to meet with the Russians to get info. Showed up, no info. But he still went to the meeting. Question is what was his intent? Was his intent to collude? Is attempted treason illegal or just successful treason?

I am beginning to think Richard Nixon was merely a man before his time.

So the proper comparison isn't to Hillary but to Weiner?

The proper comparison is a setup.

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/885001097420697606

https://twitter.com/SenJohnMcCain/status/588019015198625792

Lol. No. The emails show Trump Jr got himself into this mess himself.

I’d like to apologize to Eric Trump. We always thought you were the dumb one. We were wrong.” — STEPHEN COLBERT

It appears that this lawyer is an anti-trump plant. She was with McCain on anti putin meeting. Senator Grassley is asking how he got into this country when her permission to visit was not renewed.

I don't know for sure, but I think her permission to visit had to do with the court appearance that she had that same week as the meeting. It is mentioned in the email chain.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a question to all you brilliant DCUM legal minds out there. What's the legal standard/definition for collusion in this context? The more that comes out, the more certain it sounds like the Trump campaign had at least some knowledge of Russian involvement in the election during campaign season. However, this doesn't necessarily mean they acted on this knowledge. But would being complicit meet a collusion threshold test?

My pure speculation here. I have a feeling all these meetings that took place were about the Russians telling the Trump campaign what kind of information they had and what they were going to do with the information, while team Trump so sat there and nodded their heads.

I don't know. But let me ask you this,

Guy talks to a 14 YO girl online. Agrees to meet her for sex.

Shows up, no sex. Instead, an officer waiting to arrest him.

He's guilty of attempting to have sex with her and goes to jail.

Uday electronically agreed to meet with the Russians to get info. Showed up, no info. But he still went to the meeting. Question is what was his intent? Was his intent to collude? Is attempted treason illegal or just successful treason?

I am beginning to think Richard Nixon was merely a man before his time.

So the proper comparison isn't to Hillary but to Weiner?

The proper comparison is a setup.

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/885001097420697606

https://twitter.com/SenJohnMcCain/status/588019015198625792

Lol. No. The emails show Trump Jr got himself into this mess himself.

I’d like to apologize to Eric Trump. We always thought you were the dumb one. We were wrong.” — STEPHEN COLBERT

It appears that this lawyer is an anti-trump plant. She was with McCain on anti putin meeting. Senator Grassley is asking how he got into this country when her permission to visit was not renewed.

This is getting fun! Watch this go *poof* from the media soon....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh, here comes another psycho: InfoWars founder Alex Jones says Donald Trump Jr. was just ”doing his job" by "trying to find Russian spies”

This would be one hell of a sarcasm if it were not from Alex Jones...

I don't know this seems like a credible theory to me.

[Anonymous]

Answering a question from another thread, "What's Worse", since it was locked:

What is worse: (1) Jr. took the bait and solicited dirt from Russia; or (2) that he sat on this bombshell until it was exposed? I think it's #2. The excuse that he's a novice and not a politico would have worked if he just came clean early on and said Russia approached him. With all the allegations swirling about Russia, this may have blown over if he came out himself and disclosed this even if he did it months after the June 9th meeting.

(1) is worse because it let to (2).

The Russians had high confidence their scheme could work because Junior's a novice. But his ignorance was about the implications of what he was getting into, not about whether or not it was wrong to meet with them.

The Trump family obviously has some serious money problems - which is the reason financial transparency should be a concrete requirement of candidates, not merely a courtesy - and the news that keeps trickling out about the Trump/Russia relationship only shows just how much both sides needed him to win.

More than that, all parties need him to stay in office until the transaction is finished. The problem for Trump - and now for America - is that it's not finished until the Russians say it's finished.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It appears that this lawyer is an anti-trump plant. She was with McCain on anti putin meeting. Senator Grassley is asking how he got into this country when her permission to visit was not renewed.

Grasping in the throes of desperation.

+1 The important thing is that Trump Jr was offered damaging intel from a foreign government to influence an election and instead of running to report this to the FBI, he said "I love it." There's no way to spin this.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-meeting-russia-campaign_us_5963a7a0e4b0615b9e936e06

Stevens noted an episode during the 2000 presidential campaign when debate preparation materials from the campaign of then-Texas Gov. George W. Bush (R) were mysteriously mailed to the campaign of his Democratic opponent, then-Vice President Al Gore. Thomas Downey, Gore’s debate coach, contacted the FBI when he realized the package contained leaked information from Bush’s campaign.


Richard Painter, the former top ethics lawyer in Bush’s administration and a frequent Trump critic, suggested Trump Jr. ought to have done the same.

+1 Some incredibly bad judgment here by all parties. Will be interesting if the emails leak is from Jared trying to get Donald Jr to take the fall.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It appears that this lawyer is an anti-trump plant. She was with McCain on anti putin meeting. Senator Grassley is asking how he got into this country when her permission to visit was not renewed.

Grasping in the throes of desperation.

Uday's defense has devolved to "bitch set me up". Perfect.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It appears that this lawyer is an anti-trump plant. She was with McCain on anti putin meeting. Senator Grassley is asking how he got into this country when her permission to visit was not renewed.

Grasping in the throes of desperation.

+1
This is becoming more comical by the minute.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It appears that this lawyer is an anti-trump plant. She was with McCain on anti putin meeting. Senator Grassley is asking how she got into this country when her permission to visit was not renewed.

Grasping in the throes of desperation.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/07/12/grassley-probing-how-russian-lawyer-got-into-us-after-visa-denial.html

Why did the Obama admin approve her visa after the denial? What was the reason for the initial denial? You don't want to know?

I read your post to the tune of "Desperado." You're pathetic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It appears that this lawyer is an anti-trump plant. She was with McCain on anti putin meeting. Senator Grassley is asking how he got into this country when her permission to visit was not renewed.

I thought Republicans were OK with immigrants as long as they have white skin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It appears that this lawyer is an anti-trump plant. She was with McCain on anti putin meeting. Senator Grassley is asking how he got into this country when her permission to visit was not renewed.

I thought Republicans were OK with immigrants as long as they have white skin.

Typical liberal stupidity. Lol.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It appears that this lawyer is an anti-trump plant. She was with McCain on anti putin meeting. Senator Grassley is asking how she got into this country when her permission to visit was not renewed.

Grasping in the throes of desperation.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/07/12/grassley-probing-how-russian-lawyer-got-into-us-after-visa-denial.html

Why did the Obama admin approve her visa after the denial? What was the reason for the initial denial? You don't want to know?

Why did the Trump campaign let her into Trump tower? Don't they do background checks on anyone?

Is this what they think extreme vetting to keep the country safe is?

Anyways, I'll cite this from your article:

Asked Wednesday if the meeting may have been a setup by opponents of Trump – perhaps even then-President Barack Obama – Grassley demurred.

“There’s no way I know that and I shouldn’t comment on things you don’t know,” he said.