8 Skiers dead after accidental Avalanche in California!

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Anonymous wrote:Even in zero visibility and five days of high risk forecasts.

But they are "experts" they know what they're doing!

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To whomever added the link to the NYTimes article about the Steven's Pass/Tunnel Creek avalanche thanks. That was an excellent article.

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Anonymous wrote:To whomever added the link to the NYTimes article about the Steven's Pass/Tunnel Creek avalanche thanks. That was an excellent article.

+1. Both of the articles are terrific. The Tunnel Creek article won a Pulitzer.

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Anonymous wrote:Some people will never learn. Here the guide, again, ignored the warnings and people died. Eventually it will probably just be banned because people can’t make good decisions.

https://www.msn.com/en-za/news/other/instructor-ignored-warning-not-to-ski-off-piste-before-avalanche-that-killed-two-brits/ar-AA1WrwZY

Banned by whom? And who would enforce this ban?

Put some thought into it, you might be able to figure it out.

You haven't been paying attention. Our government has defunded the national parks.

Are the backcountry guides a legit business or not?

Legit in what sense?

Words are hard. Legit, accident….. What is skiiing? What’s next?

Of course it is "legit." Have you seen their website? Check it out: https://blackbirdguides.com/

Maybe you should not be able to hang your shingle out to be able lead people to their deaths in mountains under avalanche warnings, or at all, since people are morons. Kind of like how you can’t run your own meth lab or run a restaurant out of your unlicensed kitchen.

Wrong administration.

Are they in the state of California or not? Why would CA want to issue these companies a business permit? They could shut it down.

I giggle every time Quickbooks asks if a business is in the US or CA. For real...

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Anonymous wrote:To whomever added the link to the NYTimes article about the Steven's Pass/Tunnel Creek avalanche thanks. That was an excellent article.

+1. Both of the articles are terrific. The Tunnel Creek article won a Pulitzer.

could someone please re-post the NYT articles? I can't find them (haven't looked at 50 pages of this thread)

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Anonymous wrote:Some people will never learn. Here the guide, again, ignored the warnings and people died. Eventually it will probably just be banned because people can’t make good decisions.

https://www.msn.com/en-za/news/other/instructor-ignored-warning-not-to-ski-off-piste-before-avalanche-that-killed-two-brits/ar-AA1WrwZY

Banned by whom? And who would enforce this ban?

Put some thought into it, you might be able to figure it out.

You haven't been paying attention. Our government has defunded the national parks.

Are the backcountry guides a legit business or not?

Legit in what sense?

Words are hard. Legit, accident….. What is skiiing? What’s next?

Of course it is "legit." Have you seen their website? Check it out: https://blackbirdguides.com/

Maybe you should not be able to hang your shingle out to be able lead people to their deaths in mountains under avalanche warnings, or at all, since people are morons. Kind of like how you can’t run your own meth lab or run a restaurant out of your unlicensed kitchen.

Wrong administration.

Are they in the state of California or not? Why would CA want to issue these companies a business permit? They could shut it down.

Why? It would not stop people from backcountry skiing. People do it without guides all the time.

Put all responsibility on risk-taking skiers. No lawsuits allowed.

Take the risk of your own decisions and the lure of the powder, but no lawsuits. Same for boating in treacherous waters and other dangerous pursuits. Your choice.

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Don’t the clients sign all kinds of waivers for these risky endeavors?

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Anonymous wrote:To whomever added the link to the NYTimes article about the Steven's Pass/Tunnel Creek avalanche thanks. That was an excellent article.

+1. Both of the articles are terrific. The Tunnel Creek article won a Pulitzer.

could someone please re-post the NYT articles? I can't find them (haven't looked at 50 pages of this thread)

Google "avalanche NYT". It pops up right away.

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Another interesting article written after the Tunnel Creek avalanche covers the PTSD suffered by survivors https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/06/avalanche-survivors-trauma-living

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t the clients sign all kinds of waivers for these risky endeavors?

Of course. There are waivers for literally everything these days.

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t the clients sign all kinds of waivers for these risky endeavors?

But attys find ways to negate them.

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Anonymous wrote:Another interesting article written after the Tunnel Creek avalanche covers the PTSD suffered by survivors https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/06/avalanche-survivors-trauma-living

Back country skiers apparently view themselves as "a community, a tribe." Elitist and thrill seeking, despite known dangers. They should not be allowed to sue.

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Anonymous wrote:Another interesting article written after the Tunnel Creek avalanche covers the PTSD suffered by survivors https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/06/avalanche-survivors-trauma-living

Back country skiers apparently view themselves as "a community, a tribe." Elitist and thrill seeking, despite known dangers. They should not be allowed to sue.

You keep repeating the same thing. So boring. How about adding something interesting to the discussion, pp? I provided two of the article links, btw.

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t the clients sign all kinds of waivers for these risky endeavors?

But attys find ways to negate them.

Only where there is negligence.

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t the clients sign all kinds of waivers for these risky endeavors?

But attys find ways to negate them.

Only where there is negligence.

On whose part?