Should financial aid in private school be stricter?

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Woe is me. The world so so unfair and everyone conspires to keep me down. Why can’t the someone else pays for everything I need. Why do I have to work so hard?!?!

Then just eliminate financial aid. I think it would be better. No give away to upper middle class families.

Since I can’t have it, nobody can.

It’s was sarchasm for the oligarch parent that was trolling another parent. But no. It’s very simple. Don’t give money to people that can pay for school. Very simple.

What are your criteria for who can pay? HHI, AGI, home equity, number of dependents, number of children enrolled, retirement balance, assets, or debt to income ratios? How do you know what these are for the ‘upper middle class’ families that you think are unfairly receiving aids?

This is why schools have a committee or office to determine who gets aid. No matter what they do or where they draw the line, people will complain. I'm more comfortable giving it to MC teachers to keep them longer. Some of them have been the best teachers we've had. One of our favorite teachers used this perk for her grandchildren and I thought it was a great way to reward ther tenure at the school. She was so helpful to my youngest, I think she changed my DD's life.

That’s fine for you, but would it be fine for the rest of the donors. Maybe or maybe not, because there is not full disclosure. This is not the school money, is the parents money by the way.

💯 absolutely!! It's the parent's money and they can designate how it's spent. At our school they can tick a box or fill in the blank. They can also write "I don't want teachers or MC people to receive any financial aid with this money", or, "I want all this money to upgrade the dining facilities", or, "I want this money to be spent to market in lower income communities", or, I want this money to be spent only on the girls basketball team". See how that works?

Maybe the donors should just donate to the facilities and their kids' sports - no financial aid at all. How would you find that? After all, they still get the same tax break.

That’s a good approach. In most schools financial aid is as opaque as the dark side of the moon.

Which school is that? I have 4 kids and we've been members of 4 communities through the years. I can allocate my donations at all those schools. I didn't realize there are schools that don't have that option for the donors. Which are these? I know most of the schools discussed on this forum have that as an option. You can also request to know the allocation of money. Also the report published every year. Some schools publish their annual report to the public, some don't.

For financial aid in us schools you donate to a fund and you CANNOT request that financial aid is allocate for low income families. This is decided arbitrarily by the school.

That is absolutely false. You can allocate at every school we've donated to. Clearly you have no experience with this.

Really? Can I say, please give my 1000 dollar donation to the Asian single mother than earns less than 150k. Obviously that does happen. Firs there is fundraising, and the school give away the money to well off families for random reasons.

You can absolutely do this. It would be a pain in the @ss for your school to administer this if it were a $1000 donation. Make it a $10K and watch your school rush to make it happen.

I don’t know what school you’re referring to that’s giving FA for random reasons. Our school uses an independent company to gather, validate, and assess the FA applications based on criteria the school established. Each application is assigned a grade. The clear No’s are removed and the committee review the Maybes and make their decision.

What your are saying for practical purposes does not work. I understand if you donate 10 million dollars. But for humble parents like I that can only donate 5k, that doesn’t work. Ok. Forget about it. Middle class families with financial aid can still go to Europe.

They should not be able to go to Europe if other parents are paying their tuition. I think that is the point. Private school is a luxury and not something you only pay what you can but still live a luxurious life. If you can t pay for private school then all extra income should go to the school. I would expect those on financial aid to go on my CV less expensive vacations.

Do you honestly believe that a family whose income + assets qualify them for financial aid are actually paying to go to Europe? You're mistaken. The numbers don't add up.

Their parents (students grandparents) pay for it. You never heard of parents giving their children gifts? The average home here is $1.5m+. Recipients of parent gifting are everywhere. Look to the left, look to the right, one of them or both are receiving gifts.

I know a family with two kids in private who ski in Utah and travel to Europe each year. They receive aid of $5,000 per child.

I also know a similar family that sail instead of ski. The grandparents fund the remaining tuition, vacations that include all extended family, and the kids' 529s. I want them to adopt me too. The family lives in a small 1 story bungalow, cute and tidy in the nice part of town. I guess their house is $1M. This arrangement, including that they are FA recipients, sits ok with me. The dad went to the school and had kids young. His family is wealthy, but he isn't (yet). The mom grew up poor in a southern state and is a sweet as can be. She's a SAHM. The kids are very kind and friendly, nothing exceptional about any of them.

That’s a lie. They would have to explain why the mom is a SAHM and not working (just so her kids can get FA) so you’re okay with that arrangement, but the persons with the “wrong color” should not receive any aid? Like make it make sense.

It doesn't have to make sense to you. Truth is you're probably not capable of understanding the truth anyway.

I never said what color they were.

The SAHM is with a SN kid that has lots of appointments.

Does that pass your harsh ignorant judgement test? Thank God you're not part of the admin. Your lack of understanding and empathy is truly next-level.

Amen, this is what I said 20 pages back. Thank God this person isn't in a decision making position. 49 pages of multiple explanations from multiple angles and this person continues to dig their heels in.

I would think the same if I were receiving financial aid. I also love free money.

But it’s not the case. I donate money and it’s reasonable to ask for accountability. Not sure what’s so controversial.

Any "accountability" that doesn't involve complete adherence to your extremely limited view will be enough for you. As many have mentioned, don't donate money if you don't support how it's being used. It's really that simple!

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Woe is me. The world so so unfair and everyone conspires to keep me down. Why can’t the someone else pays for everything I need. Why do I have to work so hard?!?!

Then just eliminate financial aid. I think it would be better. No give away to upper middle class families.

Since I can’t have it, nobody can.

It’s was sarchasm for the oligarch parent that was trolling another parent. But no. It’s very simple. Don’t give money to people that can pay for school. Very simple.

What are your criteria for who can pay? HHI, AGI, home equity, number of dependents, number of children enrolled, retirement balance, assets, or debt to income ratios? How do you know what these are for the ‘upper middle class’ families that you think are unfairly receiving aids?

This is why schools have a committee or office to determine who gets aid. No matter what they do or where they draw the line, people will complain. I'm more comfortable giving it to MC teachers to keep them longer. Some of them have been the best teachers we've had. One of our favorite teachers used this perk for her grandchildren and I thought it was a great way to reward ther tenure at the school. She was so helpful to my youngest, I think she changed my DD's life.

That’s fine for you, but would it be fine for the rest of the donors. Maybe or maybe not, because there is not full disclosure. This is not the school money, is the parents money by the way.

💯 absolutely!! It's the parent's money and they can designate how it's spent. At our school they can tick a box or fill in the blank. They can also write "I don't want teachers or MC people to receive any financial aid with this money", or, "I want all this money to upgrade the dining facilities", or, "I want this money to be spent to market in lower income communities", or, I want this money to be spent only on the girls basketball team". See how that works?

Maybe the donors should just donate to the facilities and their kids' sports - no financial aid at all. How would you find that? After all, they still get the same tax break.

That’s a good approach. In most schools financial aid is as opaque as the dark side of the moon.

Which school is that? I have 4 kids and we've been members of 4 communities through the years. I can allocate my donations at all those schools. I didn't realize there are schools that don't have that option for the donors. Which are these? I know most of the schools discussed on this forum have that as an option. You can also request to know the allocation of money. Also the report published every year. Some schools publish their annual report to the public, some don't.

For financial aid in us schools you donate to a fund and you CANNOT request that financial aid is allocate for low income families. This is decided arbitrarily by the school.

That is absolutely false. You can allocate at every school we've donated to. Clearly you have no experience with this.

Really? Can I say, please give my 1000 dollar donation to the Asian single mother than earns less than 150k. Obviously that does happen. Firs there is fundraising, and the school give away the money to well off families for random reasons.

You can absolutely do this. It would be a pain in the @ss for your school to administer this if it were a $1000 donation. Make it a $10K and watch your school rush to make it happen.

I don’t know what school you’re referring to that’s giving FA for random reasons. Our school uses an independent company to gather, validate, and assess the FA applications based on criteria the school established. Each application is assigned a grade. The clear No’s are removed and the committee review the Maybes and make their decision.

What your are saying for practical purposes does not work. I understand if you donate 10 million dollars. But for humble parents like I that can only donate 5k, that doesn’t work. Ok. Forget about it. Middle class families with financial aid can still go to Europe.

They should not be able to go to Europe if other parents are paying their tuition. I think that is the point. Private school is a luxury and not something you only pay what you can but still live a luxurious life. If you can t pay for private school then all extra income should go to the school. I would expect those on financial aid to go on my CV less expensive vacations.

Do you honestly believe that a family whose income + assets qualify them for financial aid are actually paying to go to Europe? You're mistaken. The numbers don't add up.

Their parents (students grandparents) pay for it. You never heard of parents giving their children gifts? The average home here is $1.5m+. Recipients of parent gifting are everywhere. Look to the left, look to the right, one of them or both are receiving gifts.

I know a family with two kids in private who ski in Utah and travel to Europe each year. They receive aid of $5,000 per child.

I also know a similar family that sail instead of ski. The grandparents fund the remaining tuition, vacations that include all extended family, and the kids' 529s. I want them to adopt me too. The family lives in a small 1 story bungalow, cute and tidy in the nice part of town. I guess their house is $1M. This arrangement, including that they are FA recipients, sits ok with me. The dad went to the school and had kids young. His family is wealthy, but he isn't (yet). The mom grew up poor in a southern state and is a sweet as can be. She's a SAHM. The kids are very kind and friendly, nothing exceptional about any of them.

That’s a lie. They would have to explain why the mom is a SAHM and not working (just so her kids can get FA) so you’re okay with that arrangement, but the persons with the “wrong color” should not receive any aid? Like make it make sense.

It doesn't have to make sense to you. Truth is you're probably not capable of understanding the truth anyway.

I never said what color they were.

The SAHM is with a SN kid that has lots of appointments.

Does that pass your harsh ignorant judgement test? Thank God you're not part of the admin. Your lack of understanding and empathy is truly next-level.

Amen, this is what I said 20 pages back. Thank God this person isn't in a decision making position. 49 pages of multiple explanations from multiple angles and this person continues to dig their heels in.

I would think the same if I were receiving financial aid. I also love free money.

But it’s not the case. I donate money and it’s reasonable to ask for accountability. Not sure what’s so controversial.

Any "accountability" that doesn't involve complete adherence to your extremely limited view will be enough for you. As many have mentioned, don't donate money if you don't support how it's being used. It's really that simple!

Sure. Don’t read my posts. It’s also simple. That’s ok. Let’s continue the give away to entitled upper class families. Let’s bring fake diversity to schools. Please exclude all the low income families. That’s what all inclusive families want.

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Woe is me. The world so so unfair and everyone conspires to keep me down. Why can’t the someone else pays for everything I need. Why do I have to work so hard?!?!

Then just eliminate financial aid. I think it would be better. No give away to upper middle class families.

Since I can’t have it, nobody can.

It’s was sarchasm for the oligarch parent that was trolling another parent. But no. It’s very simple. Don’t give money to people that can pay for school. Very simple.

What are your criteria for who can pay? HHI, AGI, home equity, number of dependents, number of children enrolled, retirement balance, assets, or debt to income ratios? How do you know what these are for the ‘upper middle class’ families that you think are unfairly receiving aids?

This is why schools have a committee or office to determine who gets aid. No matter what they do or where they draw the line, people will complain. I'm more comfortable giving it to MC teachers to keep them longer. Some of them have been the best teachers we've had. One of our favorite teachers used this perk for her grandchildren and I thought it was a great way to reward ther tenure at the school. She was so helpful to my youngest, I think she changed my DD's life.

That’s fine for you, but would it be fine for the rest of the donors. Maybe or maybe not, because there is not full disclosure. This is not the school money, is the parents money by the way.

💯 absolutely!! It's the parent's money and they can designate how it's spent. At our school they can tick a box or fill in the blank. They can also write "I don't want teachers or MC people to receive any financial aid with this money", or, "I want all this money to upgrade the dining facilities", or, "I want this money to be spent to market in lower income communities", or, I want this money to be spent only on the girls basketball team". See how that works?

Maybe the donors should just donate to the facilities and their kids' sports - no financial aid at all. How would you find that? After all, they still get the same tax break.

That’s a good approach. In most schools financial aid is as opaque as the dark side of the moon.

Which school is that? I have 4 kids and we've been members of 4 communities through the years. I can allocate my donations at all those schools. I didn't realize there are schools that don't have that option for the donors. Which are these? I know most of the schools discussed on this forum have that as an option. You can also request to know the allocation of money. Also the report published every year. Some schools publish their annual report to the public, some don't.

For financial aid in us schools you donate to a fund and you CANNOT request that financial aid is allocate for low income families. This is decided arbitrarily by the school.

That is absolutely false. You can allocate at every school we've donated to. Clearly you have no experience with this.

Really? Can I say, please give my 1000 dollar donation to the Asian single mother than earns less than 150k. Obviously that does happen. Firs there is fundraising, and the school give away the money to well off families for random reasons.

You can absolutely do this. It would be a pain in the @ss for your school to administer this if it were a $1000 donation. Make it a $10K and watch your school rush to make it happen.

I don’t know what school you’re referring to that’s giving FA for random reasons. Our school uses an independent company to gather, validate, and assess the FA applications based on criteria the school established. Each application is assigned a grade. The clear No’s are removed and the committee review the Maybes and make their decision.

What your are saying for practical purposes does not work. I understand if you donate 10 million dollars. But for humble parents like I that can only donate 5k, that doesn’t work. Ok. Forget about it. Middle class families with financial aid can still go to Europe.

They should not be able to go to Europe if other parents are paying their tuition. I think that is the point. Private school is a luxury and not something you only pay what you can but still live a luxurious life. If you can t pay for private school then all extra income should go to the school. I would expect those on financial aid to go on my CV less expensive vacations.

Do you honestly believe that a family whose income + assets qualify them for financial aid are actually paying to go to Europe? You're mistaken. The numbers don't add up.

Their parents (students grandparents) pay for it. You never heard of parents giving their children gifts? The average home here is $1.5m+. Recipients of parent gifting are everywhere. Look to the left, look to the right, one of them or both are receiving gifts.

I know a family with two kids in private who ski in Utah and travel to Europe each year. They receive aid of $5,000 per child.

I also know a similar family that sail instead of ski. The grandparents fund the remaining tuition, vacations that include all extended family, and the kids' 529s. I want them to adopt me too. The family lives in a small 1 story bungalow, cute and tidy in the nice part of town. I guess their house is $1M. This arrangement, including that they are FA recipients, sits ok with me. The dad went to the school and had kids young. His family is wealthy, but he isn't (yet). The mom grew up poor in a southern state and is a sweet as can be. She's a SAHM. The kids are very kind and friendly, nothing exceptional about any of them.

That’s a lie. They would have to explain why the mom is a SAHM and not working (just so her kids can get FA) so you’re okay with that arrangement, but the persons with the “wrong color” should not receive any aid? Like make it make sense.

It doesn't have to make sense to you. Truth is you're probably not capable of understanding the truth anyway.

I never said what color they were.

The SAHM is with a SN kid that has lots of appointments.

Does that pass your harsh ignorant judgement test? Thank God you're not part of the admin. Your lack of understanding and empathy is truly next-level.

Amen, this is what I said 20 pages back. Thank God this person isn't in a decision making position. 49 pages of multiple explanations from multiple angles and this person continues to dig their heels in.

I would think the same if I were receiving financial aid. I also love free money.

But it’s not the case. I donate money and it’s reasonable to ask for accountability. Not sure what’s so controversial.

Any "accountability" that doesn't involve complete adherence to your extremely limited view will be enough for you. As many have mentioned, don't donate money if you don't support how it's being used. It's really that simple!

Sure. Don’t read my posts. It’s also simple. That’s ok. Let’s continue the give away to entitled upper class families. Let’s bring fake diversity to schools. Please exclude all the low income families. That’s what all inclusive families want.

Why anyone continues to respond to the sarcastic angry OP is beyond me. She has been saying the same thing for 50 pages now and is impervious to logic or reason. Ignore the troll, she will start another obnoxious thread very soon.

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Woe is me. The world so so unfair and everyone conspires to keep me down. Why can’t the someone else pays for everything I need. Why do I have to work so hard?!?!

Then just eliminate financial aid. I think it would be better. No give away to upper middle class families.

Since I can’t have it, nobody can.

It’s was sarchasm for the oligarch parent that was trolling another parent. But no. It’s very simple. Don’t give money to people that can pay for school. Very simple.

What are your criteria for who can pay? HHI, AGI, home equity, number of dependents, number of children enrolled, retirement balance, assets, or debt to income ratios? How do you know what these are for the ‘upper middle class’ families that you think are unfairly receiving aids?

This is why schools have a committee or office to determine who gets aid. No matter what they do or where they draw the line, people will complain. I'm more comfortable giving it to MC teachers to keep them longer. Some of them have been the best teachers we've had. One of our favorite teachers used this perk for her grandchildren and I thought it was a great way to reward ther tenure at the school. She was so helpful to my youngest, I think she changed my DD's life.

That’s fine for you, but would it be fine for the rest of the donors. Maybe or maybe not, because there is not full disclosure. This is not the school money, is the parents money by the way.

💯 absolutely!! It's the parent's money and they can designate how it's spent. At our school they can tick a box or fill in the blank. They can also write "I don't want teachers or MC people to receive any financial aid with this money", or, "I want all this money to upgrade the dining facilities", or, "I want this money to be spent to market in lower income communities", or, I want this money to be spent only on the girls basketball team". See how that works?

Maybe the donors should just donate to the facilities and their kids' sports - no financial aid at all. How would you find that? After all, they still get the same tax break.

That’s a good approach. In most schools financial aid is as opaque as the dark side of the moon.

Which school is that? I have 4 kids and we've been members of 4 communities through the years. I can allocate my donations at all those schools. I didn't realize there are schools that don't have that option for the donors. Which are these? I know most of the schools discussed on this forum have that as an option. You can also request to know the allocation of money. Also the report published every year. Some schools publish their annual report to the public, some don't.

For financial aid in us schools you donate to a fund and you CANNOT request that financial aid is allocate for low income families. This is decided arbitrarily by the school.

That is absolutely false. You can allocate at every school we've donated to. Clearly you have no experience with this.

Really? Can I say, please give my 1000 dollar donation to the Asian single mother than earns less than 150k. Obviously that does happen. Firs there is fundraising, and the school give away the money to well off families for random reasons.

You can absolutely do this. It would be a pain in the @ss for your school to administer this if it were a $1000 donation. Make it a $10K and watch your school rush to make it happen.

I don’t know what school you’re referring to that’s giving FA for random reasons. Our school uses an independent company to gather, validate, and assess the FA applications based on criteria the school established. Each application is assigned a grade. The clear No’s are removed and the committee review the Maybes and make their decision.

What your are saying for practical purposes does not work. I understand if you donate 10 million dollars. But for humble parents like I that can only donate 5k, that doesn’t work. Ok. Forget about it. Middle class families with financial aid can still go to Europe.

They should not be able to go to Europe if other parents are paying their tuition. I think that is the point. Private school is a luxury and not something you only pay what you can but still live a luxurious life. If you can t pay for private school then all extra income should go to the school. I would expect those on financial aid to go on my CV less expensive vacations.

Do you honestly believe that a family whose income + assets qualify them for financial aid are actually paying to go to Europe? You're mistaken. The numbers don't add up.

Their parents (students grandparents) pay for it. You never heard of parents giving their children gifts? The average home here is $1.5m+. Recipients of parent gifting are everywhere. Look to the left, look to the right, one of them or both are receiving gifts.

I know a family with two kids in private who ski in Utah and travel to Europe each year. They receive aid of $5,000 per child.

I also know a similar family that sail instead of ski. The grandparents fund the remaining tuition, vacations that include all extended family, and the kids' 529s. I want them to adopt me too. The family lives in a small 1 story bungalow, cute and tidy in the nice part of town. I guess their house is $1M. This arrangement, including that they are FA recipients, sits ok with me. The dad went to the school and had kids young. His family is wealthy, but he isn't (yet). The mom grew up poor in a southern state and is a sweet as can be. She's a SAHM. The kids are very kind and friendly, nothing exceptional about any of them.

That’s a lie. They would have to explain why the mom is a SAHM and not working (just so her kids can get FA) so you’re okay with that arrangement, but the persons with the “wrong color” should not receive any aid? Like make it make sense.

It doesn't have to make sense to you. Truth is you're probably not capable of understanding the truth anyway.

I never said what color they were.

The SAHM is with a SN kid that has lots of appointments.

Does that pass your harsh ignorant judgement test? Thank God you're not part of the admin. Your lack of understanding and empathy is truly next-level.

Amen, this is what I said 20 pages back. Thank God this person isn't in a decision making position. 49 pages of multiple explanations from multiple angles and this person continues to dig their heels in.

I would think the same if I were receiving financial aid. I also love free money.

But it’s not the case. I donate money and it’s reasonable to ask for accountability. Not sure what’s so controversial.

Any "accountability" that doesn't involve complete adherence to your extremely limited view will be enough for you. As many have mentioned, don't donate money if you don't support how it's being used. It's really that simple!

Sure. Don’t read my posts. It’s also simple. That’s ok. Let’s continue the give away to entitled upper class families. Let’s bring fake diversity to schools. Please exclude all the low income families. That’s what all inclusive families want.

Why anyone continues to respond to the sarcastic angry OP is beyond me. She has been saying the same thing for 50 pages now and is impervious to logic or reason. Ignore the troll, she will start another obnoxious thread very soon.

I really enjoy. Specially the part where inclusive families trash Lower income families. It’s very revealing of the idiosyncrasy of upper middle class parents. Also when upper middle class families try to justify their free money. Enjoy!

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Woe is me. The world so so unfair and everyone conspires to keep me down. Why can’t the someone else pays for everything I need. Why do I have to work so hard?!?!

Then just eliminate financial aid. I think it would be better. No give away to upper middle class families.

Since I can’t have it, nobody can.

It’s was sarchasm for the oligarch parent that was trolling another parent. But no. It’s very simple. Don’t give money to people that can pay for school. Very simple.

What are your criteria for who can pay? HHI, AGI, home equity, number of dependents, number of children enrolled, retirement balance, assets, or debt to income ratios? How do you know what these are for the ‘upper middle class’ families that you think are unfairly receiving aids?

This is why schools have a committee or office to determine who gets aid. No matter what they do or where they draw the line, people will complain. I'm more comfortable giving it to MC teachers to keep them longer. Some of them have been the best teachers we've had. One of our favorite teachers used this perk for her grandchildren and I thought it was a great way to reward ther tenure at the school. She was so helpful to my youngest, I think she changed my DD's life.

That’s fine for you, but would it be fine for the rest of the donors. Maybe or maybe not, because there is not full disclosure. This is not the school money, is the parents money by the way.

💯 absolutely!! It's the parent's money and they can designate how it's spent. At our school they can tick a box or fill in the blank. They can also write "I don't want teachers or MC people to receive any financial aid with this money", or, "I want all this money to upgrade the dining facilities", or, "I want this money to be spent to market in lower income communities", or, I want this money to be spent only on the girls basketball team". See how that works?

Maybe the donors should just donate to the facilities and their kids' sports - no financial aid at all. How would you find that? After all, they still get the same tax break.

That’s a good approach. In most schools financial aid is as opaque as the dark side of the moon.

Which school is that? I have 4 kids and we've been members of 4 communities through the years. I can allocate my donations at all those schools. I didn't realize there are schools that don't have that option for the donors. Which are these? I know most of the schools discussed on this forum have that as an option. You can also request to know the allocation of money. Also the report published every year. Some schools publish their annual report to the public, some don't.

For financial aid in us schools you donate to a fund and you CANNOT request that financial aid is allocate for low income families. This is decided arbitrarily by the school.

That is absolutely false. You can allocate at every school we've donated to. Clearly you have no experience with this.

Really? Can I say, please give my 1000 dollar donation to the Asian single mother than earns less than 150k. Obviously that does happen. Firs there is fundraising, and the school give away the money to well off families for random reasons.

You can absolutely do this. It would be a pain in the @ss for your school to administer this if it were a $1000 donation. Make it a $10K and watch your school rush to make it happen.

I don’t know what school you’re referring to that’s giving FA for random reasons. Our school uses an independent company to gather, validate, and assess the FA applications based on criteria the school established. Each application is assigned a grade. The clear No’s are removed and the committee review the Maybes and make their decision.

What your are saying for practical purposes does not work. I understand if you donate 10 million dollars. But for humble parents like I that can only donate 5k, that doesn’t work. Ok. Forget about it. Middle class families with financial aid can still go to Europe.

They should not be able to go to Europe if other parents are paying their tuition. I think that is the point. Private school is a luxury and not something you only pay what you can but still live a luxurious life. If you can t pay for private school then all extra income should go to the school. I would expect those on financial aid to go on my CV less expensive vacations.

Do you honestly believe that a family whose income + assets qualify them for financial aid are actually paying to go to Europe? You're mistaken. The numbers don't add up.

Their parents (students grandparents) pay for it. You never heard of parents giving their children gifts? The average home here is $1.5m+. Recipients of parent gifting are everywhere. Look to the left, look to the right, one of them or both are receiving gifts.

I know a family with two kids in private who ski in Utah and travel to Europe each year. They receive aid of $5,000 per child.

I also know a similar family that sail instead of ski. The grandparents fund the remaining tuition, vacations that include all extended family, and the kids' 529s. I want them to adopt me too. The family lives in a small 1 story bungalow, cute and tidy in the nice part of town. I guess their house is $1M. This arrangement, including that they are FA recipients, sits ok with me. The dad went to the school and had kids young. His family is wealthy, but he isn't (yet). The mom grew up poor in a southern state and is a sweet as can be. She's a SAHM. The kids are very kind and friendly, nothing exceptional about any of them.

That’s a lie. They would have to explain why the mom is a SAHM and not working (just so her kids can get FA) so you’re okay with that arrangement, but the persons with the “wrong color” should not receive any aid? Like make it make sense.

It doesn't have to make sense to you. Truth is you're probably not capable of understanding the truth anyway.

I never said what color they were.

The SAHM is with a SN kid that has lots of appointments.

Does that pass your harsh ignorant judgement test? Thank God you're not part of the admin. Your lack of understanding and empathy is truly next-level.

Amen, this is what I said 20 pages back. Thank God this person isn't in a decision making position. 49 pages of multiple explanations from multiple angles and this person continues to dig their heels in.

I would think the same if I were receiving financial aid. I also love free money.

But it’s not the case. I donate money and it’s reasonable to ask for accountability. Not sure what’s so controversial.

Then ask your director of advancement, not strangers. Nothing controversial.

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Woe is me. The world so so unfair and everyone conspires to keep me down. Why can’t the someone else pays for everything I need. Why do I have to work so hard?!?!

Then just eliminate financial aid. I think it would be better. No give away to upper middle class families.

Since I can’t have it, nobody can.

It’s was sarchasm for the oligarch parent that was trolling another parent. But no. It’s very simple. Don’t give money to people that can pay for school. Very simple.

What are your criteria for who can pay? HHI, AGI, home equity, number of dependents, number of children enrolled, retirement balance, assets, or debt to income ratios? How do you know what these are for the ‘upper middle class’ families that you think are unfairly receiving aids?

This is why schools have a committee or office to determine who gets aid. No matter what they do or where they draw the line, people will complain. I'm more comfortable giving it to MC teachers to keep them longer. Some of them have been the best teachers we've had. One of our favorite teachers used this perk for her grandchildren and I thought it was a great way to reward ther tenure at the school. She was so helpful to my youngest, I think she changed my DD's life.

That’s fine for you, but would it be fine for the rest of the donors. Maybe or maybe not, because there is not full disclosure. This is not the school money, is the parents money by the way.

💯 absolutely!! It's the parent's money and they can designate how it's spent. At our school they can tick a box or fill in the blank. They can also write "I don't want teachers or MC people to receive any financial aid with this money", or, "I want all this money to upgrade the dining facilities", or, "I want this money to be spent to market in lower income communities", or, I want this money to be spent only on the girls basketball team". See how that works?

Maybe the donors should just donate to the facilities and their kids' sports - no financial aid at all. How would you find that? After all, they still get the same tax break.

That’s a good approach. In most schools financial aid is as opaque as the dark side of the moon.

Which school is that? I have 4 kids and we've been members of 4 communities through the years. I can allocate my donations at all those schools. I didn't realize there are schools that don't have that option for the donors. Which are these? I know most of the schools discussed on this forum have that as an option. You can also request to know the allocation of money. Also the report published every year. Some schools publish their annual report to the public, some don't.

For financial aid in us schools you donate to a fund and you CANNOT request that financial aid is allocate for low income families. This is decided arbitrarily by the school.

That is absolutely false. You can allocate at every school we've donated to. Clearly you have no experience with this.

Really? Can I say, please give my 1000 dollar donation to the Asian single mother than earns less than 150k. Obviously that does happen. Firs there is fundraising, and the school give away the money to well off families for random reasons.

You can absolutely do this. It would be a pain in the @ss for your school to administer this if it were a $1000 donation. Make it a $10K and watch your school rush to make it happen.

I don’t know what school you’re referring to that’s giving FA for random reasons. Our school uses an independent company to gather, validate, and assess the FA applications based on criteria the school established. Each application is assigned a grade. The clear No’s are removed and the committee review the Maybes and make their decision.

What your are saying for practical purposes does not work. I understand if you donate 10 million dollars. But for humble parents like I that can only donate 5k, that doesn’t work. Ok. Forget about it. Middle class families with financial aid can still go to Europe.

They should not be able to go to Europe if other parents are paying their tuition. I think that is the point. Private school is a luxury and not something you only pay what you can but still live a luxurious life. If you can t pay for private school then all extra income should go to the school. I would expect those on financial aid to go on my CV less expensive vacations.

Do you honestly believe that a family whose income + assets qualify them for financial aid are actually paying to go to Europe? You're mistaken. The numbers don't add up.

Their parents (students grandparents) pay for it. You never heard of parents giving their children gifts? The average home here is $1.5m+. Recipients of parent gifting are everywhere. Look to the left, look to the right, one of them or both are receiving gifts.

I know a family with two kids in private who ski in Utah and travel to Europe each year. They receive aid of $5,000 per child.

I also know a similar family that sail instead of ski. The grandparents fund the remaining tuition, vacations that include all extended family, and the kids' 529s. I want them to adopt me too. The family lives in a small 1 story bungalow, cute and tidy in the nice part of town. I guess their house is $1M. This arrangement, including that they are FA recipients, sits ok with me. The dad went to the school and had kids young. His family is wealthy, but he isn't (yet). The mom grew up poor in a southern state and is a sweet as can be. She's a SAHM. The kids are very kind and friendly, nothing exceptional about any of them.

That’s a lie. They would have to explain why the mom is a SAHM and not working (just so her kids can get FA) so you’re okay with that arrangement, but the persons with the “wrong color” should not receive any aid? Like make it make sense.

It doesn't have to make sense to you. Truth is you're probably not capable of understanding the truth anyway.

I never said what color they were.

The SAHM is with a SN kid that has lots of appointments.

Does that pass your harsh ignorant judgement test? Thank God you're not part of the admin. Your lack of understanding and empathy is truly next-level.

Amen, this is what I said 20 pages back. Thank God this person isn't in a decision making position. 49 pages of multiple explanations from multiple angles and this person continues to dig their heels in.

I would think the same if I were receiving financial aid. I also love free money.

But it’s not the case. I donate money and it’s reasonable to ask for accountability. Not sure what’s so controversial.

Any "accountability" that doesn't involve complete adherence to your extremely limited view will be enough for you. As many have mentioned, don't donate money if you don't support how it's being used. It's really that simple!

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PP doesn't donate money or they would know this. They are trying to make people outraged. Any person who did donate would take it up with their school if they had a problem. The only problem for PP is they are not a member of a school and don't donate, yet are outraged at how others spend their money.

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Woe is me. The world so so unfair and everyone conspires to keep me down. Why can’t the someone else pays for everything I need. Why do I have to work so hard?!?!

Then just eliminate financial aid. I think it would be better. No give away to upper middle class families.

Since I can’t have it, nobody can.

It’s was sarchasm for the oligarch parent that was trolling another parent. But no. It’s very simple. Don’t give money to people that can pay for school. Very simple.

What are your criteria for who can pay? HHI, AGI, home equity, number of dependents, number of children enrolled, retirement balance, assets, or debt to income ratios? How do you know what these are for the ‘upper middle class’ families that you think are unfairly receiving aids?

This is why schools have a committee or office to determine who gets aid. No matter what they do or where they draw the line, people will complain. I'm more comfortable giving it to MC teachers to keep them longer. Some of them have been the best teachers we've had. One of our favorite teachers used this perk for her grandchildren and I thought it was a great way to reward ther tenure at the school. She was so helpful to my youngest, I think she changed my DD's life.

That’s fine for you, but would it be fine for the rest of the donors. Maybe or maybe not, because there is not full disclosure. This is not the school money, is the parents money by the way.

💯 absolutely!! It's the parent's money and they can designate how it's spent. At our school they can tick a box or fill in the blank. They can also write "I don't want teachers or MC people to receive any financial aid with this money", or, "I want all this money to upgrade the dining facilities", or, "I want this money to be spent to market in lower income communities", or, I want this money to be spent only on the girls basketball team". See how that works?

Maybe the donors should just donate to the facilities and their kids' sports - no financial aid at all. How would you find that? After all, they still get the same tax break.

That’s a good approach. In most schools financial aid is as opaque as the dark side of the moon.

Which school is that? I have 4 kids and we've been members of 4 communities through the years. I can allocate my donations at all those schools. I didn't realize there are schools that don't have that option for the donors. Which are these? I know most of the schools discussed on this forum have that as an option. You can also request to know the allocation of money. Also the report published every year. Some schools publish their annual report to the public, some don't.

For financial aid in us schools you donate to a fund and you CANNOT request that financial aid is allocate for low income families. This is decided arbitrarily by the school.

That is absolutely false. You can allocate at every school we've donated to. Clearly you have no experience with this.

Really? Can I say, please give my 1000 dollar donation to the Asian single mother than earns less than 150k. Obviously that does happen. Firs there is fundraising, and the school give away the money to well off families for random reasons.

You can absolutely do this. It would be a pain in the @ss for your school to administer this if it were a $1000 donation. Make it a $10K and watch your school rush to make it happen.

I don’t know what school you’re referring to that’s giving FA for random reasons. Our school uses an independent company to gather, validate, and assess the FA applications based on criteria the school established. Each application is assigned a grade. The clear No’s are removed and the committee review the Maybes and make their decision.

What your are saying for practical purposes does not work. I understand if you donate 10 million dollars. But for humble parents like I that can only donate 5k, that doesn’t work. Ok. Forget about it. Middle class families with financial aid can still go to Europe.

They should not be able to go to Europe if other parents are paying their tuition. I think that is the point. Private school is a luxury and not something you only pay what you can but still live a luxurious life. If you can t pay for private school then all extra income should go to the school. I would expect those on financial aid to go on my CV less expensive vacations.

Do you honestly believe that a family whose income + assets qualify them for financial aid are actually paying to go to Europe? You're mistaken. The numbers don't add up.

Their parents (students grandparents) pay for it. You never heard of parents giving their children gifts? The average home here is $1.5m+. Recipients of parent gifting are everywhere. Look to the left, look to the right, one of them or both are receiving gifts.

I know a family with two kids in private who ski in Utah and travel to Europe each year. They receive aid of $5,000 per child.

I also know a similar family that sail instead of ski. The grandparents fund the remaining tuition, vacations that include all extended family, and the kids' 529s. I want them to adopt me too. The family lives in a small 1 story bungalow, cute and tidy in the nice part of town. I guess their house is $1M. This arrangement, including that they are FA recipients, sits ok with me. The dad went to the school and had kids young. His family is wealthy, but he isn't (yet). The mom grew up poor in a southern state and is a sweet as can be. She's a SAHM. The kids are very kind and friendly, nothing exceptional about any of them.

That’s a lie. They would have to explain why the mom is a SAHM and not working (just so her kids can get FA) so you’re okay with that arrangement, but the persons with the “wrong color” should not receive any aid? Like make it make sense.

It doesn't have to make sense to you. Truth is you're probably not capable of understanding the truth anyway.

I never said what color they were.

The SAHM is with a SN kid that has lots of appointments.

Does that pass your harsh ignorant judgement test? Thank God you're not part of the admin. Your lack of understanding and empathy is truly next-level.

Amen, this is what I said 20 pages back. Thank God this person isn't in a decision making position. 49 pages of multiple explanations from multiple angles and this person continues to dig their heels in.

I would think the same if I were receiving financial aid. I also love free money.

But it’s not the case. I donate money and it’s reasonable to ask for accountability. Not sure what’s so controversial.

Any "accountability" that doesn't involve complete adherence to your extremely limited view will be enough for you. As many have mentioned, don't donate money if you don't support how it's being used. It's really that simple!

Sure. Don’t read my posts. It’s also simple. That’s ok. Let’s continue the give away to entitled upper class families. Let’s bring fake diversity to schools. Please exclude all the low income families. That’s what all inclusive families want.

Just stay public. No one wants you anyway.

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Woe is me. The world so so unfair and everyone conspires to keep me down. Why can’t the someone else pays for everything I need. Why do I have to work so hard?!?!

Then just eliminate financial aid. I think it would be better. No give away to upper middle class families.

Since I can’t have it, nobody can.

It’s was sarchasm for the oligarch parent that was trolling another parent. But no. It’s very simple. Don’t give money to people that can pay for school. Very simple.

What are your criteria for who can pay? HHI, AGI, home equity, number of dependents, number of children enrolled, retirement balance, assets, or debt to income ratios? How do you know what these are for the ‘upper middle class’ families that you think are unfairly receiving aids?

This is why schools have a committee or office to determine who gets aid. No matter what they do or where they draw the line, people will complain. I'm more comfortable giving it to MC teachers to keep them longer. Some of them have been the best teachers we've had. One of our favorite teachers used this perk for her grandchildren and I thought it was a great way to reward ther tenure at the school. She was so helpful to my youngest, I think she changed my DD's life.

That’s fine for you, but would it be fine for the rest of the donors. Maybe or maybe not, because there is not full disclosure. This is not the school money, is the parents money by the way.

💯 absolutely!! It's the parent's money and they can designate how it's spent. At our school they can tick a box or fill in the blank. They can also write "I don't want teachers or MC people to receive any financial aid with this money", or, "I want all this money to upgrade the dining facilities", or, "I want this money to be spent to market in lower income communities", or, I want this money to be spent only on the girls basketball team". See how that works?

Maybe the donors should just donate to the facilities and their kids' sports - no financial aid at all. How would you find that? After all, they still get the same tax break.

That’s a good approach. In most schools financial aid is as opaque as the dark side of the moon.

Which school is that? I have 4 kids and we've been members of 4 communities through the years. I can allocate my donations at all those schools. I didn't realize there are schools that don't have that option for the donors. Which are these? I know most of the schools discussed on this forum have that as an option. You can also request to know the allocation of money. Also the report published every year. Some schools publish their annual report to the public, some don't.

For financial aid in us schools you donate to a fund and you CANNOT request that financial aid is allocate for low income families. This is decided arbitrarily by the school.

That is absolutely false. You can allocate at every school we've donated to. Clearly you have no experience with this.

Really? Can I say, please give my 1000 dollar donation to the Asian single mother than earns less than 150k. Obviously that does happen. Firs there is fundraising, and the school give away the money to well off families for random reasons.

You can absolutely do this. It would be a pain in the @ss for your school to administer this if it were a $1000 donation. Make it a $10K and watch your school rush to make it happen.

I don’t know what school you’re referring to that’s giving FA for random reasons. Our school uses an independent company to gather, validate, and assess the FA applications based on criteria the school established. Each application is assigned a grade. The clear No’s are removed and the committee review the Maybes and make their decision.

What your are saying for practical purposes does not work. I understand if you donate 10 million dollars. But for humble parents like I that can only donate 5k, that doesn’t work. Ok. Forget about it. Middle class families with financial aid can still go to Europe.

They should not be able to go to Europe if other parents are paying their tuition. I think that is the point. Private school is a luxury and not something you only pay what you can but still live a luxurious life. If you can t pay for private school then all extra income should go to the school. I would expect those on financial aid to go on my CV less expensive vacations.

Do you honestly believe that a family whose income + assets qualify them for financial aid are actually paying to go to Europe? You're mistaken. The numbers don't add up.

Their parents (students grandparents) pay for it. You never heard of parents giving their children gifts? The average home here is $1.5m+. Recipients of parent gifting are everywhere. Look to the left, look to the right, one of them or both are receiving gifts.

I know a family with two kids in private who ski in Utah and travel to Europe each year. They receive aid of $5,000 per child.

I also know a similar family that sail instead of ski. The grandparents fund the remaining tuition, vacations that include all extended family, and the kids' 529s. I want them to adopt me too. The family lives in a small 1 story bungalow, cute and tidy in the nice part of town. I guess their house is $1M. This arrangement, including that they are FA recipients, sits ok with me. The dad went to the school and had kids young. His family is wealthy, but he isn't (yet). The mom grew up poor in a southern state and is a sweet as can be. She's a SAHM. The kids are very kind and friendly, nothing exceptional about any of them.

That’s a lie. They would have to explain why the mom is a SAHM and not working (just so her kids can get FA) so you’re okay with that arrangement, but the persons with the “wrong color” should not receive any aid? Like make it make sense.

It doesn't have to make sense to you. Truth is you're probably not capable of understanding the truth anyway.

I never said what color they were.

The SAHM is with a SN kid that has lots of appointments.

Does that pass your harsh ignorant judgement test? Thank God you're not part of the admin. Your lack of understanding and empathy is truly next-level.

Amen, this is what I said 20 pages back. Thank God this person isn't in a decision making position. 49 pages of multiple explanations from multiple angles and this person continues to dig their heels in.

I would think the same if I were receiving financial aid. I also love free money.

But it’s not the case. I donate money and it’s reasonable to ask for accountability. Not sure what’s so controversial.

Then ask your director of advancement, not strangers. Nothing controversial.

I like to discuss it first in DCUM. I love to learn about the IQ of parents like you.

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Woe is me. The world so so unfair and everyone conspires to keep me down. Why can’t the someone else pays for everything I need. Why do I have to work so hard?!?!

Then just eliminate financial aid. I think it would be better. No give away to upper middle class families.

Since I can’t have it, nobody can.

It’s was sarchasm for the oligarch parent that was trolling another parent. But no. It’s very simple. Don’t give money to people that can pay for school. Very simple.

What are your criteria for who can pay? HHI, AGI, home equity, number of dependents, number of children enrolled, retirement balance, assets, or debt to income ratios? How do you know what these are for the ‘upper middle class’ families that you think are unfairly receiving aids?

This is why schools have a committee or office to determine who gets aid. No matter what they do or where they draw the line, people will complain. I'm more comfortable giving it to MC teachers to keep them longer. Some of them have been the best teachers we've had. One of our favorite teachers used this perk for her grandchildren and I thought it was a great way to reward ther tenure at the school. She was so helpful to my youngest, I think she changed my DD's life.

That’s fine for you, but would it be fine for the rest of the donors. Maybe or maybe not, because there is not full disclosure. This is not the school money, is the parents money by the way.

💯 absolutely!! It's the parent's money and they can designate how it's spent. At our school they can tick a box or fill in the blank. They can also write "I don't want teachers or MC people to receive any financial aid with this money", or, "I want all this money to upgrade the dining facilities", or, "I want this money to be spent to market in lower income communities", or, I want this money to be spent only on the girls basketball team". See how that works?

Maybe the donors should just donate to the facilities and their kids' sports - no financial aid at all. How would you find that? After all, they still get the same tax break.

That’s a good approach. In most schools financial aid is as opaque as the dark side of the moon.

Which school is that? I have 4 kids and we've been members of 4 communities through the years. I can allocate my donations at all those schools. I didn't realize there are schools that don't have that option for the donors. Which are these? I know most of the schools discussed on this forum have that as an option. You can also request to know the allocation of money. Also the report published every year. Some schools publish their annual report to the public, some don't.

For financial aid in us schools you donate to a fund and you CANNOT request that financial aid is allocate for low income families. This is decided arbitrarily by the school.

That is absolutely false. You can allocate at every school we've donated to. Clearly you have no experience with this.

Really? Can I say, please give my 1000 dollar donation to the Asian single mother than earns less than 150k. Obviously that does happen. Firs there is fundraising, and the school give away the money to well off families for random reasons.

You can absolutely do this. It would be a pain in the @ss for your school to administer this if it were a $1000 donation. Make it a $10K and watch your school rush to make it happen.

I don’t know what school you’re referring to that’s giving FA for random reasons. Our school uses an independent company to gather, validate, and assess the FA applications based on criteria the school established. Each application is assigned a grade. The clear No’s are removed and the committee review the Maybes and make their decision.

What your are saying for practical purposes does not work. I understand if you donate 10 million dollars. But for humble parents like I that can only donate 5k, that doesn’t work. Ok. Forget about it. Middle class families with financial aid can still go to Europe.

They should not be able to go to Europe if other parents are paying their tuition. I think that is the point. Private school is a luxury and not something you only pay what you can but still live a luxurious life. If you can t pay for private school then all extra income should go to the school. I would expect those on financial aid to go on my CV less expensive vacations.

Do you honestly believe that a family whose income + assets qualify them for financial aid are actually paying to go to Europe? You're mistaken. The numbers don't add up.

Their parents (students grandparents) pay for it. You never heard of parents giving their children gifts? The average home here is $1.5m+. Recipients of parent gifting are everywhere. Look to the left, look to the right, one of them or both are receiving gifts.

I know a family with two kids in private who ski in Utah and travel to Europe each year. They receive aid of $5,000 per child.

I also know a similar family that sail instead of ski. The grandparents fund the remaining tuition, vacations that include all extended family, and the kids' 529s. I want them to adopt me too. The family lives in a small 1 story bungalow, cute and tidy in the nice part of town. I guess their house is $1M. This arrangement, including that they are FA recipients, sits ok with me. The dad went to the school and had kids young. His family is wealthy, but he isn't (yet). The mom grew up poor in a southern state and is a sweet as can be. She's a SAHM. The kids are very kind and friendly, nothing exceptional about any of them.

That’s a lie. They would have to explain why the mom is a SAHM and not working (just so her kids can get FA) so you’re okay with that arrangement, but the persons with the “wrong color” should not receive any aid? Like make it make sense.

It doesn't have to make sense to you. Truth is you're probably not capable of understanding the truth anyway.

I never said what color they were.

The SAHM is with a SN kid that has lots of appointments.

Does that pass your harsh ignorant judgement test? Thank God you're not part of the admin. Your lack of understanding and empathy is truly next-level.

Amen, this is what I said 20 pages back. Thank God this person isn't in a decision making position. 49 pages of multiple explanations from multiple angles and this person continues to dig their heels in.

I would think the same if I were receiving financial aid. I also love free money.

But it’s not the case. I donate money and it’s reasonable to ask for accountability. Not sure what’s so controversial.

Any "accountability" that doesn't involve complete adherence to your extremely limited view will be enough for you. As many have mentioned, don't donate money if you don't support how it's being used. It's really that simple!

Sure. Don’t read my posts. It’s also simple. That’s ok. Let’s continue the give away to entitled upper class families. Let’s bring fake diversity to schools. Please exclude all the low income families. That’s what all inclusive families want.

Just stay public. No one wants you anyway.

That’s ok. I love that all parents get engaged with this thread, son they can learn more about the mentality of parents in private schools. Think about it. Middle class parents say that they should have priority in the financial aid that they receive and exclude low income families. I think people used to have more dignity.

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Woe is me. The world so so unfair and everyone conspires to keep me down. Why can’t the someone else pays for everything I need. Why do I have to work so hard?!?!

Then just eliminate financial aid. I think it would be better. No give away to upper middle class families.

Since I can’t have it, nobody can.

It’s was sarchasm for the oligarch parent that was trolling another parent. But no. It’s very simple. Don’t give money to people that can pay for school. Very simple.

What are your criteria for who can pay? HHI, AGI, home equity, number of dependents, number of children enrolled, retirement balance, assets, or debt to income ratios? How do you know what these are for the ‘upper middle class’ families that you think are unfairly receiving aids?

This is why schools have a committee or office to determine who gets aid. No matter what they do or where they draw the line, people will complain. I'm more comfortable giving it to MC teachers to keep them longer. Some of them have been the best teachers we've had. One of our favorite teachers used this perk for her grandchildren and I thought it was a great way to reward ther tenure at the school. She was so helpful to my youngest, I think she changed my DD's life.

That’s fine for you, but would it be fine for the rest of the donors. Maybe or maybe not, because there is not full disclosure. This is not the school money, is the parents money by the way.

💯 absolutely!! It's the parent's money and they can designate how it's spent. At our school they can tick a box or fill in the blank. They can also write "I don't want teachers or MC people to receive any financial aid with this money", or, "I want all this money to upgrade the dining facilities", or, "I want this money to be spent to market in lower income communities", or, I want this money to be spent only on the girls basketball team". See how that works?

Maybe the donors should just donate to the facilities and their kids' sports - no financial aid at all. How would you find that? After all, they still get the same tax break.

That’s a good approach. In most schools financial aid is as opaque as the dark side of the moon.

Which school is that? I have 4 kids and we've been members of 4 communities through the years. I can allocate my donations at all those schools. I didn't realize there are schools that don't have that option for the donors. Which are these? I know most of the schools discussed on this forum have that as an option. You can also request to know the allocation of money. Also the report published every year. Some schools publish their annual report to the public, some don't.

For financial aid in us schools you donate to a fund and you CANNOT request that financial aid is allocate for low income families. This is decided arbitrarily by the school.

That is absolutely false. You can allocate at every school we've donated to. Clearly you have no experience with this.

Really? Can I say, please give my 1000 dollar donation to the Asian single mother than earns less than 150k. Obviously that does happen. Firs there is fundraising, and the school give away the money to well off families for random reasons.

You can absolutely do this. It would be a pain in the @ss for your school to administer this if it were a $1000 donation. Make it a $10K and watch your school rush to make it happen.

I don’t know what school you’re referring to that’s giving FA for random reasons. Our school uses an independent company to gather, validate, and assess the FA applications based on criteria the school established. Each application is assigned a grade. The clear No’s are removed and the committee review the Maybes and make their decision.

What your are saying for practical purposes does not work. I understand if you donate 10 million dollars. But for humble parents like I that can only donate 5k, that doesn’t work. Ok. Forget about it. Middle class families with financial aid can still go to Europe.

They should not be able to go to Europe if other parents are paying their tuition. I think that is the point. Private school is a luxury and not something you only pay what you can but still live a luxurious life. If you can t pay for private school then all extra income should go to the school. I would expect those on financial aid to go on my CV less expensive vacations.

Do you honestly believe that a family whose income + assets qualify them for financial aid are actually paying to go to Europe? You're mistaken. The numbers don't add up.

Their parents (students grandparents) pay for it. You never heard of parents giving their children gifts? The average home here is $1.5m+. Recipients of parent gifting are everywhere. Look to the left, look to the right, one of them or both are receiving gifts.

I know a family with two kids in private who ski in Utah and travel to Europe each year. They receive aid of $5,000 per child.

I also know a similar family that sail instead of ski. The grandparents fund the remaining tuition, vacations that include all extended family, and the kids' 529s. I want them to adopt me too. The family lives in a small 1 story bungalow, cute and tidy in the nice part of town. I guess their house is $1M. This arrangement, including that they are FA recipients, sits ok with me. The dad went to the school and had kids young. His family is wealthy, but he isn't (yet). The mom grew up poor in a southern state and is a sweet as can be. She's a SAHM. The kids are very kind and friendly, nothing exceptional about any of them.

That’s a lie. They would have to explain why the mom is a SAHM and not working (just so her kids can get FA) so you’re okay with that arrangement, but the persons with the “wrong color” should not receive any aid? Like make it make sense.

It doesn't have to make sense to you. Truth is you're probably not capable of understanding the truth anyway.

I never said what color they were.

The SAHM is with a SN kid that has lots of appointments.

Does that pass your harsh ignorant judgement test? Thank God you're not part of the admin. Your lack of understanding and empathy is truly next-level.

Amen, this is what I said 20 pages back. Thank God this person isn't in a decision making position. 49 pages of multiple explanations from multiple angles and this person continues to dig their heels in.

I would think the same if I were receiving financial aid. I also love free money.

But it’s not the case. I donate money and it’s reasonable to ask for accountability. Not sure what’s so controversial.

Any "accountability" that doesn't involve complete adherence to your extremely limited view will be enough for you. As many have mentioned, don't donate money if you don't support how it's being used. It's really that simple!

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PP doesn't donate money or they would know this. They are trying to make people outraged. Any person who did donate would take it up with their school if they had a problem. The only problem for PP is they are not a member of a school and don't donate, yet are outraged at how others spend their money.

Not outraged at all. Every post I read reveals a lot about the mentality of parents in private schools and how much they despise people outside their circle. Very interesting material for a dissertation in sociology.

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This is the same poster on a different thread from yesterday, trying to stir the pot.

Her kid can’t make the gpa and test cutoffs for top schools in the dmv. She wants to buy her way in and exclude all minorities (and I think women) whom she feels couldn’t possibly be smart enough or rich enough to afford dmv schools over her kid. No financial aid should be offered, according to her.

Good luck at Basis!

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Woe is me. The world so so unfair and everyone conspires to keep me down. Why can’t the someone else pays for everything I need. Why do I have to work so hard?!?!

Then just eliminate financial aid. I think it would be better. No give away to upper middle class families.

Since I can’t have it, nobody can.

It’s was sarchasm for the oligarch parent that was trolling another parent. But no. It’s very simple. Don’t give money to people that can pay for school. Very simple.

What are your criteria for who can pay? HHI, AGI, home equity, number of dependents, number of children enrolled, retirement balance, assets, or debt to income ratios? How do you know what these are for the ‘upper middle class’ families that you think are unfairly receiving aids?

This is why schools have a committee or office to determine who gets aid. No matter what they do or where they draw the line, people will complain. I'm more comfortable giving it to MC teachers to keep them longer. Some of them have been the best teachers we've had. One of our favorite teachers used this perk for her grandchildren and I thought it was a great way to reward ther tenure at the school. She was so helpful to my youngest, I think she changed my DD's life.

That’s fine for you, but would it be fine for the rest of the donors. Maybe or maybe not, because there is not full disclosure. This is not the school money, is the parents money by the way.

💯 absolutely!! It's the parent's money and they can designate how it's spent. At our school they can tick a box or fill in the blank. They can also write "I don't want teachers or MC people to receive any financial aid with this money", or, "I want all this money to upgrade the dining facilities", or, "I want this money to be spent to market in lower income communities", or, I want this money to be spent only on the girls basketball team". See how that works?

Maybe the donors should just donate to the facilities and their kids' sports - no financial aid at all. How would you find that? After all, they still get the same tax break.

That’s a good approach. In most schools financial aid is as opaque as the dark side of the moon.

Which school is that? I have 4 kids and we've been members of 4 communities through the years. I can allocate my donations at all those schools. I didn't realize there are schools that don't have that option for the donors. Which are these? I know most of the schools discussed on this forum have that as an option. You can also request to know the allocation of money. Also the report published every year. Some schools publish their annual report to the public, some don't.

For financial aid in us schools you donate to a fund and you CANNOT request that financial aid is allocate for low income families. This is decided arbitrarily by the school.

That is absolutely false. You can allocate at every school we've donated to. Clearly you have no experience with this.

Really? Can I say, please give my 1000 dollar donation to the Asian single mother than earns less than 150k. Obviously that does happen. Firs there is fundraising, and the school give away the money to well off families for random reasons.

You can absolutely do this. It would be a pain in the @ss for your school to administer this if it were a $1000 donation. Make it a $10K and watch your school rush to make it happen.

I don’t know what school you’re referring to that’s giving FA for random reasons. Our school uses an independent company to gather, validate, and assess the FA applications based on criteria the school established. Each application is assigned a grade. The clear No’s are removed and the committee review the Maybes and make their decision.

What your are saying for practical purposes does not work. I understand if you donate 10 million dollars. But for humble parents like I that can only donate 5k, that doesn’t work. Ok. Forget about it. Middle class families with financial aid can still go to Europe.

They should not be able to go to Europe if other parents are paying their tuition. I think that is the point. Private school is a luxury and not something you only pay what you can but still live a luxurious life. If you can t pay for private school then all extra income should go to the school. I would expect those on financial aid to go on my CV less expensive vacations.

Do you honestly believe that a family whose income + assets qualify them for financial aid are actually paying to go to Europe? You're mistaken. The numbers don't add up.

Their parents (students grandparents) pay for it. You never heard of parents giving their children gifts? The average home here is $1.5m+. Recipients of parent gifting are everywhere. Look to the left, look to the right, one of them or both are receiving gifts.

I know a family with two kids in private who ski in Utah and travel to Europe each year. They receive aid of $5,000 per child.

How much is tuition for both? If it’s $110,000 plus other expenses and fees for both, $10,000 combined is less than 10%. Another way to look at the $10K FA is a discount on the 2nd tuition that many schools offer for siblings.

$100K after tax is equivalent to $150K pretax income. Assuming they have $250K HHI, 60% of their pretax income is going towards their children’s education. I don’t know enough about their debt, mortgage, or assets so I’m okay if they can manage their budget to afford these trips.

BTW, I travel for work weekly so I always use my frequent flyer and hotel points for vacations. How do you know they’re not doing this?

They may have points or saved to travel or whatever. Like what is it to you?

I know the family very well. They are not using points. I know their income. Honestly, maybe it’s slightly sour grapes on my behalf. We are in the same situation - 2 kids in private - and I assumed FA was intended for low income families so never even thought to apply. They actually make a bit more money than we do. I have cut our annual donations to $50 now I understand that it’s funding people who have more money than we do.

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Anonymous wrote:This is the same poster on a different thread from yesterday, trying to stir the pot.

Her kid can’t make the gpa and test cutoffs for top schools in the dmv. She wants to buy her way in and exclude all minorities (and I think women) whom she feels couldn’t possibly be smart enough or rich enough to afford dmv schools over her kid. No financial aid should be offered, according to her.

Good luck at Basis!

Doesn’t matter darling. With the upcoming recession financial aid will be stricter regardless of your preferences.

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Woe is me. The world so so unfair and everyone conspires to keep me down. Why can’t the someone else pays for everything I need. Why do I have to work so hard?!?!

Then just eliminate financial aid. I think it would be better. No give away to upper middle class families.

Since I can’t have it, nobody can.

It’s was sarchasm for the oligarch parent that was trolling another parent. But no. It’s very simple. Don’t give money to people that can pay for school. Very simple.

What are your criteria for who can pay? HHI, AGI, home equity, number of dependents, number of children enrolled, retirement balance, assets, or debt to income ratios? How do you know what these are for the ‘upper middle class’ families that you think are unfairly receiving aids?

This is why schools have a committee or office to determine who gets aid. No matter what they do or where they draw the line, people will complain. I'm more comfortable giving it to MC teachers to keep them longer. Some of them have been the best teachers we've had. One of our favorite teachers used this perk for her grandchildren and I thought it was a great way to reward ther tenure at the school. She was so helpful to my youngest, I think she changed my DD's life.

That’s fine for you, but would it be fine for the rest of the donors. Maybe or maybe not, because there is not full disclosure. This is not the school money, is the parents money by the way.

💯 absolutely!! It's the parent's money and they can designate how it's spent. At our school they can tick a box or fill in the blank. They can also write "I don't want teachers or MC people to receive any financial aid with this money", or, "I want all this money to upgrade the dining facilities", or, "I want this money to be spent to market in lower income communities", or, I want this money to be spent only on the girls basketball team". See how that works?

Maybe the donors should just donate to the facilities and their kids' sports - no financial aid at all. How would you find that? After all, they still get the same tax break.

That’s a good approach. In most schools financial aid is as opaque as the dark side of the moon.

Which school is that? I have 4 kids and we've been members of 4 communities through the years. I can allocate my donations at all those schools. I didn't realize there are schools that don't have that option for the donors. Which are these? I know most of the schools discussed on this forum have that as an option. You can also request to know the allocation of money. Also the report published every year. Some schools publish their annual report to the public, some don't.

For financial aid in us schools you donate to a fund and you CANNOT request that financial aid is allocate for low income families. This is decided arbitrarily by the school.

That is absolutely false. You can allocate at every school we've donated to. Clearly you have no experience with this.

Really? Can I say, please give my 1000 dollar donation to the Asian single mother than earns less than 150k. Obviously that does happen. Firs there is fundraising, and the school give away the money to well off families for random reasons.

You can absolutely do this. It would be a pain in the @ss for your school to administer this if it were a $1000 donation. Make it a $10K and watch your school rush to make it happen.

I don’t know what school you’re referring to that’s giving FA for random reasons. Our school uses an independent company to gather, validate, and assess the FA applications based on criteria the school established. Each application is assigned a grade. The clear No’s are removed and the committee review the Maybes and make their decision.

What your are saying for practical purposes does not work. I understand if you donate 10 million dollars. But for humble parents like I that can only donate 5k, that doesn’t work. Ok. Forget about it. Middle class families with financial aid can still go to Europe.

They should not be able to go to Europe if other parents are paying their tuition. I think that is the point. Private school is a luxury and not something you only pay what you can but still live a luxurious life. If you can t pay for private school then all extra income should go to the school. I would expect those on financial aid to go on my CV less expensive vacations.

Do you honestly believe that a family whose income + assets qualify them for financial aid are actually paying to go to Europe? You're mistaken. The numbers don't add up.

Their parents (students grandparents) pay for it. You never heard of parents giving their children gifts? The average home here is $1.5m+. Recipients of parent gifting are everywhere. Look to the left, look to the right, one of them or both are receiving gifts.

I know a family with two kids in private who ski in Utah and travel to Europe each year. They receive aid of $5,000 per child.

I also know a similar family that sail instead of ski. The grandparents fund the remaining tuition, vacations that include all extended family, and the kids' 529s. I want them to adopt me too. The family lives in a small 1 story bungalow, cute and tidy in the nice part of town. I guess their house is $1M. This arrangement, including that they are FA recipients, sits ok with me. The dad went to the school and had kids young. His family is wealthy, but he isn't (yet). The mom grew up poor in a southern state and is a sweet as can be. She's a SAHM. The kids are very kind and friendly, nothing exceptional about any of them.

That’s a lie. They would have to explain why the mom is a SAHM and not working (just so her kids can get FA) so you’re okay with that arrangement, but the persons with the “wrong color” should not receive any aid? Like make it make sense.

It doesn't have to make sense to you. Truth is you're probably not capable of understanding the truth anyway.

I never said what color they were.

The SAHM is with a SN kid that has lots of appointments.

Does that pass your harsh ignorant judgement test? Thank God you're not part of the admin. Your lack of understanding and empathy is truly next-level.

Amen, this is what I said 20 pages back. Thank God this person isn't in a decision making position. 49 pages of multiple explanations from multiple angles and this person continues to dig their heels in.

I would think the same if I were receiving financial aid. I also love free money.

But it’s not the case. I donate money and it’s reasonable to ask for accountability. Not sure what’s so controversial.

Any "accountability" that doesn't involve complete adherence to your extremely limited view will be enough for you. As many have mentioned, don't donate money if you don't support how it's being used. It's really that simple!

Sure. Don’t read my posts. It’s also simple. That’s ok. Let’s continue the give away to entitled upper class families. Let’s bring fake diversity to schools. Please exclude all the low income families. That’s what all inclusive families want.

Actually, it's not free money for those that donate it. We don't want YOU in the community. We want people who have empathy and can learn from others. You come off as an arrogant money grabbing jerk. Nobody wants people like that in the community - I'll limit my definition of diversity to nice people from all backgrounds that can learn from others. Sorry, I exclude jerks, we're not that diverse.

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Woe is me. The world so so unfair and everyone conspires to keep me down. Why can’t the someone else pays for everything I need. Why do I have to work so hard?!?!

Then just eliminate financial aid. I think it would be better. No give away to upper middle class families.

Since I can’t have it, nobody can.

It’s was sarchasm for the oligarch parent that was trolling another parent. But no. It’s very simple. Don’t give money to people that can pay for school. Very simple.

What are your criteria for who can pay? HHI, AGI, home equity, number of dependents, number of children enrolled, retirement balance, assets, or debt to income ratios? How do you know what these are for the ‘upper middle class’ families that you think are unfairly receiving aids?

This is why schools have a committee or office to determine who gets aid. No matter what they do or where they draw the line, people will complain. I'm more comfortable giving it to MC teachers to keep them longer. Some of them have been the best teachers we've had. One of our favorite teachers used this perk for her grandchildren and I thought it was a great way to reward ther tenure at the school. She was so helpful to my youngest, I think she changed my DD's life.

That’s fine for you, but would it be fine for the rest of the donors. Maybe or maybe not, because there is not full disclosure. This is not the school money, is the parents money by the way.

💯 absolutely!! It's the parent's money and they can designate how it's spent. At our school they can tick a box or fill in the blank. They can also write "I don't want teachers or MC people to receive any financial aid with this money", or, "I want all this money to upgrade the dining facilities", or, "I want this money to be spent to market in lower income communities", or, I want this money to be spent only on the girls basketball team". See how that works?

Maybe the donors should just donate to the facilities and their kids' sports - no financial aid at all. How would you find that? After all, they still get the same tax break.

That’s a good approach. In most schools financial aid is as opaque as the dark side of the moon.

Which school is that? I have 4 kids and we've been members of 4 communities through the years. I can allocate my donations at all those schools. I didn't realize there are schools that don't have that option for the donors. Which are these? I know most of the schools discussed on this forum have that as an option. You can also request to know the allocation of money. Also the report published every year. Some schools publish their annual report to the public, some don't.

For financial aid in us schools you donate to a fund and you CANNOT request that financial aid is allocate for low income families. This is decided arbitrarily by the school.

That is absolutely false. You can allocate at every school we've donated to. Clearly you have no experience with this.

Really? Can I say, please give my 1000 dollar donation to the Asian single mother than earns less than 150k. Obviously that does happen. Firs there is fundraising, and the school give away the money to well off families for random reasons.

You can absolutely do this. It would be a pain in the @ss for your school to administer this if it were a $1000 donation. Make it a $10K and watch your school rush to make it happen.

I don’t know what school you’re referring to that’s giving FA for random reasons. Our school uses an independent company to gather, validate, and assess the FA applications based on criteria the school established. Each application is assigned a grade. The clear No’s are removed and the committee review the Maybes and make their decision.

What your are saying for practical purposes does not work. I understand if you donate 10 million dollars. But for humble parents like I that can only donate 5k, that doesn’t work. Ok. Forget about it. Middle class families with financial aid can still go to Europe.

They should not be able to go to Europe if other parents are paying their tuition. I think that is the point. Private school is a luxury and not something you only pay what you can but still live a luxurious life. If you can t pay for private school then all extra income should go to the school. I would expect those on financial aid to go on my CV less expensive vacations.

Do you honestly believe that a family whose income + assets qualify them for financial aid are actually paying to go to Europe? You're mistaken. The numbers don't add up.

Their parents (students grandparents) pay for it. You never heard of parents giving their children gifts? The average home here is $1.5m+. Recipients of parent gifting are everywhere. Look to the left, look to the right, one of them or both are receiving gifts.

I know a family with two kids in private who ski in Utah and travel to Europe each year. They receive aid of $5,000 per child.

I also know a similar family that sail instead of ski. The grandparents fund the remaining tuition, vacations that include all extended family, and the kids' 529s. I want them to adopt me too. The family lives in a small 1 story bungalow, cute and tidy in the nice part of town. I guess their house is $1M. This arrangement, including that they are FA recipients, sits ok with me. The dad went to the school and had kids young. His family is wealthy, but he isn't (yet). The mom grew up poor in a southern state and is a sweet as can be. She's a SAHM. The kids are very kind and friendly, nothing exceptional about any of them.

That’s a lie. They would have to explain why the mom is a SAHM and not working (just so her kids can get FA) so you’re okay with that arrangement, but the persons with the “wrong color” should not receive any aid? Like make it make sense.

It doesn't have to make sense to you. Truth is you're probably not capable of understanding the truth anyway.

I never said what color they were.

The SAHM is with a SN kid that has lots of appointments.

Does that pass your harsh ignorant judgement test? Thank God you're not part of the admin. Your lack of understanding and empathy is truly next-level.

Amen, this is what I said 20 pages back. Thank God this person isn't in a decision making position. 49 pages of multiple explanations from multiple angles and this person continues to dig their heels in.

I would think the same if I were receiving financial aid. I also love free money.

But it’s not the case. I donate money and it’s reasonable to ask for accountability. Not sure what’s so controversial.

Any "accountability" that doesn't involve complete adherence to your extremely limited view will be enough for you. As many have mentioned, don't donate money if you don't support how it's being used. It's really that simple!

Sure. Don’t read my posts. It’s also simple. That’s ok. Let’s continue the give away to entitled upper class families. Let’s bring fake diversity to schools. Please exclude all the low income families. That’s what all inclusive families want.

Actually, it's not free money for those that donate it. We don't want YOU in the community. We want people who have empathy and can learn from others. You come off as an arrogant money grabbing jerk. Nobody wants people like that in the community - I'll limit my definition of diversity to nice people from all backgrounds that can learn from others. Sorry, I exclude jerks, we're not that diverse.

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