Where did you absolutely hate?

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Dubai

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Anonymous wrote:People rave about Turkey...but having spent time in Armenia, I can't get past the fact that Turkey committed attempted genocide against Armenia and still won't admit it.

https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/ref/timestopics/topics_armeniangenocide.html?onwardjourney=584162_v1

I just can't get past that.

Does anyone else have trouble visiting a country for social justice reasons?

This is interesting. I am aware of the attempted genocide, but it was 100 years ago. Literally everyone who participated in it or committed it is dead, the government has turned over many times, so I view it as an unsavory piece of history. If you started disqualifying countries for unsavory historical episodes there would be nowhere to visit.

That said, there are certain (current) regimes that I wouldn’t support with my tourist dollars, even if my safety were guaranteed. Putin’s Russia, North Korea, and China, for example.

But it’s kind of like holocaust denial. Imagine visiting Germany and having everyone deny that the holocaust existed, instead insisting that it was just a bureaucratic snafu or something. It’s about a country committing genocide and never taking any sort of moral responsibility for having done so. Those who do not learn from their mistakes, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:People rave about Turkey...but having spent time in Armenia, I can't get past the fact that Turkey committed attempted genocide against Armenia and still won't admit it.

https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/ref/timestopics/topics_armeniangenocide.html?onwardjourney=584162_v1

I just can't get past that.

Does anyone else have trouble visiting a country for social justice reasons?

This is interesting. I am aware of the attempted genocide, but it was 100 years ago. Literally everyone who participated in it or committed it is dead, the government has turned over many times, so I view it as an unsavory piece of history. If you started disqualifying countries for unsavory historical episodes there would be nowhere to visit.

That said, there are certain (current) regimes that I wouldn’t support with my tourist dollars, even if my safety were guaranteed. Putin’s Russia, North Korea, and China, for example.

But it’s kind of like holocaust denial. Imagine visiting Germany and having everyone deny that the holocaust existed, instead insisting that it was just a bureaucratic snafu or something. It’s about a country committing genocide and never taking any sort of moral responsibility for having done so. Those who do not learn from their mistakes, etc.

Exactly. It is one thing fur current citizens to call out the sins of their forefathers. It is quite another to glorify or deny their actions (see Civil War monuments).

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Anonymous wrote:People rave about Turkey...but having spent time in Armenia, I can't get past the fact that Turkey committed attempted genocide against Armenia and still won't admit it.

https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/ref/timestopics/topics_armeniangenocide.html?onwardjourney=584162_v1

I just can't get past that.

Does anyone else have trouble visiting a country for social justice reasons?

This is interesting. I am aware of the attempted genocide, but it was 100 years ago. Literally everyone who participated in it or committed it is dead, the government has turned over many times, so I view it as an unsavory piece of history. If you started disqualifying countries for unsavory historical episodes there would be nowhere to visit.

That said, there are certain (current) regimes that I wouldn’t support with my tourist dollars, even if my safety were guaranteed. Putin’s Russia, North Korea, and China, for example.

But it’s kind of like holocaust denial. Imagine visiting Germany and having everyone deny that the holocaust existed, instead insisting that it was just a bureaucratic snafu or something. It’s about a country committing genocide and never taking any sort of moral responsibility for having done so. Those who do not learn from their mistakes, etc.

Exactly. It is one thing fur current citizens to call out the sins of their forefathers. It is quite another to glorify or deny their actions (see Civil War monuments).

Yeah, because it's totally effective to just burn and outlaw everything that reminds you of the history...

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Anonymous wrote:People rave about Turkey...but having spent time in Armenia, I can't get past the fact that Turkey committed attempted genocide against Armenia and still won't admit it.

https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/ref/timestopics/topics_armeniangenocide.html?onwardjourney=584162_v1

I just can't get past that.

Does anyone else have trouble visiting a country for social justice reasons?

This is interesting. I am aware of the attempted genocide, but it was 100 years ago. Literally everyone who participated in it or committed it is dead, the government has turned over many times, so I view it as an unsavory piece of history. If you started disqualifying countries for unsavory historical episodes there would be nowhere to visit.

That said, there are certain (current) regimes that I wouldn’t support with my tourist dollars, even if my safety were guaranteed. Putin’s Russia, North Korea, and China, for example.

But the US and UK do not pretend slavery never happened. And the German government does not deny the Holocaust.

Turkey continues to deny this aspect of their history, which was documented by the US ambassador at the time.

https://www.armenian-genocide.org/morgenthau.html

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Anonymous wrote:People rave about Turkey...but having spent time in Armenia, I can't get past the fact that Turkey committed attempted genocide against Armenia and still won't admit it.

https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/ref/timestopics/topics_armeniangenocide.html?onwardjourney=584162_v1

I just can't get past that.

Does anyone else have trouble visiting a country for social justice reasons?

This is interesting. I am aware of the attempted genocide, but it was 100 years ago. Literally everyone who participated in it or committed it is dead, the government has turned over many times, so I view it as an unsavory piece of history. If you started disqualifying countries for unsavory historical episodes there would be nowhere to visit.

That said, there are certain (current) regimes that I wouldn’t support with my tourist dollars, even if my safety were guaranteed. Putin’s Russia, North Korea, and China, for example.

The USA committed genocide against Native Americans.

And that is acknowledged in official government records.

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Anonymous wrote:London. Hated it.

Same. Also Manchester.
So many locals, even st the hotel, were rude to us.

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Anonymous wrote:New Orleans. I didn't hate it ,but I didn't like it either.

+1
It's so disgusting and dirty. Plus there are so many homeless people that I actually feel unsafe at times.

I find the culture and history to be interesting/colorful, but the emphasis on drinking turns me off. I also know a student, and conference attendee who were robbed at gunpoint there (at different times).

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Anonymous wrote:People rave about Turkey...but having spent time in Armenia, I can't get past the fact that Turkey committed attempted genocide against Armenia and still won't admit it.

https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/ref/timestopics/topics_armeniangenocide.html?onwardjourney=584162_v1

I just can't get past that.

Does anyone else have trouble visiting a country for social justice reasons?

This is interesting. I am aware of the attempted genocide, but it was 100 years ago. Literally everyone who participated in it or committed it is dead, the government has turned over many times, so I view it as an unsavory piece of history. If you started disqualifying countries for unsavory historical episodes there would be nowhere to visit.

That said, there are certain (current) regimes that I wouldn’t support with my tourist dollars, even if my safety were guaranteed. Putin’s Russia, North Korea, and China, for example.

But it’s kind of like holocaust denial. Imagine visiting Germany and having everyone deny that the holocaust existed, instead insisting that it was just a bureaucratic snafu or something. It’s about a country committing genocide and never taking any sort of moral responsibility for having done so. Those who do not learn from their mistakes, etc.

Agree. It’s like the French not taking responsibility for the brutal occupation and genocide in Algeria. And it ended in 1962 not 100 years ago like in Armenia. Maybe we should consider boycotting France too….oh wait, it’s a western country so it doesn’t count!

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Anonymous wrote:New Orleans. I didn't hate it ,but I didn't like it either.

+1
It's so disgusting and dirty. Plus there are so many homeless people that I actually feel unsafe at times.

I find the culture and history to be interesting/colorful, but the emphasis on drinking turns me off. I also know a student, and conference attendee who were robbed at gunpoint there (at different times).

I thought the knockout game was just a myth until my friend suffered massive injuries and had his wallet stolen because of the knockout game in New Orleans. And he was basically standing right outside his hotel in an area of the city that probably is considered safe.

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Anonymous wrote:Rio, Sao Paulo, probably all of Brazil. I don't like how the abject poverty abuts the nicest of places. I know this exists, but it destroys my vacation to think about the starving children beggers while I'm trying to relax and enjoy myself or while im buying a nice sundress. The scenery, other than the flavelas, is very pretty, but a culture where that is acceptable is ugly.

US culture is no different and in fact, arguably worse as we are so rich yet accept homelessness and poverty as inevitable.

Nah, we are geographically separated so it doesn't ruin my experience.

Vacationing in your bubble. How adventuresome!

Some of us want a relaxing nice time in a safe place different from where we live. I don't need adventure. That was for my 20s. I'm in my mid 50s, I've graduated to luxury - and I've earned that!

There is a difference between wanting luxury and not wanting to be reminded poor people exist. Unless of course they are serving you in your resort. Do you realize how ignorant that sounds?

Sorry, my friend, you are the ignorant one. I'm the one who donates 75k/yr to charity. Do you? Doubt it. I'm the one who donates my time to serving the poor. Do you? I doubt it. Now, when I want a break from everything I do, you think I'm ignorant and don't want to be reminded that poor people exist? I spend more time and money serving the poor than most people and some of us need a break - in luxury. I've earned it and I can afford it.

You also sound jealous.

PS I love vacationing in Switzerland and Hawaii.

OMG you sound patronizing and self-righteous AF, PP.

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Anonymous wrote:Dubai - where it's 120 degrees and humid. Yuck

And no alcohol.

There is alcohol in Dubai.

There is a LOT of alcohol in Dubai. I lived there for two years. Alcohol is sold in multiple legal liquor shops (called African & Eastern), including one in the Dubai mall where I would pick up a few bottles of wine every now and then. Alcohol was also legally sold in most restaurants where we went, there are many bars, and out of all seven countries where we've lived, I think we saw the most drinking among the expat circles in Dubai. There is A LOT a lot of alcohol in Dubai.

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Anonymous wrote:People rave about Turkey...but having spent time in Armenia, I can't get past the fact that Turkey committed attempted genocide against Armenia and still won't admit it.

https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/ref/timestopics/topics_armeniangenocide.html?onwardjourney=584162_v1

I just can't get past that.

Does anyone else have trouble visiting a country for social justice reasons?

I can’t relate. If I took this approach I would have missed out on seeing so many amazing places: Turkey, Germany, Israel…

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People rave about Turkey...but having spent time in Armenia, I can't get past the fact that Turkey committed attempted genocide against Armenia and still won't admit it.

https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/ref/timestopics/topics_armeniangenocide.html?onwardjourney=584162_v1

I just can't get past that.

Does anyone else have trouble visiting a country for social justice reasons?

I can’t relate. If I took this approach I would have missed out on seeing so many amazing places: Turkey, Germany, Israel…

Don’t forget the former Yugoslavia- such a fascinating, beautiful place.

[Anonymous]

Dubai