ECNL moving to school year part 2
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Anonymous
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They're describing the BY to SY change.
You're intentionally misquoting or maybe you're to dumb to understand that they're not talking about Aug and Sept players playing down in SY. |
Anonymous
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Colorado Rapids said a bunch, first they see value in oldest via RAE.
My child was born between August 1 and December 31. What does this mean for them? Under the old system, these players were the youngest in their age group. Under the new School Year system, they will become the oldest in their age group. This often provides a leadership opportunity and a confidence boost. |
Anonymous
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Colorado also said
Will players be organized strictly by their school grade? No. Players will be organized by "School-Year Age Groups" (August 1-July 31), not by their specific academic grade. Here is the difference: While the new system will naturally align most players with their classmates, "Grade Level" is an academic designation that varies from family to family (due to children starting school early or late, repeating a year, or varying state enrollment dates). "School-Year Age Groups" use a strict national birthdate range (August 1 to July 31). This ensures a nationwide consistent, fair, and objective standard for safety and competition, regardless of a player’s individual academic path. Why are teams organized by the August 1–July 31 date range rather than strictly by "Grade Level"? While the new age group system is often referred to as "School Year" because it aligns better with school grades than the calendar year, we will use the nationwide age groupings of August 1st to July 31st date range for safety and fairness. We cannot organize strictly by "Grade" because grade levels are variable, whereas birth dates are factual. Organizing strictly by grade can create significant risks: The Age Gap Risk: Because kids start school at different ages, are held back, or skip grades, a single grade level can include children whose ages span 2+ years. Physical Safety: We already see significant physical differences within a standard 12-month age gap. If we were to widen that window to 24+ months (as seen in strict grade-based grouping), the physical disparity becomes dangerous. A "held-back" 13-year-old competing against a young 11-year-old in the same grade poses a real safety concern. Developmental Fairness: When age gaps widen beyond 12 months, the disparity in talent and physical maturity widens considerably. Keeping the grouping within the August 1–July 31 window ensures players compete with and against peers of similar physiological, emotional, and social maturity. |
Anonymous
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Colorado will allow rec playing up and case by case.
Can my child "play up" to stay with their current recreational team? Generally, yes. In Recreational soccer, playing up to stay with friends or classmates is generally permitted. If your child is younger than the rest of the team but wants to stay with their established friend group, we are happy to discuss that opportunity. |
Anonymous
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Its so weird and dumb to be posting about what these random clubs other places are doing (for their rec teams, LOL). Who cares? It doesn't matter what any club says publicly. Every situation will be case by case. Club doesn't have enough U14s to fill a team? Oh, suddenly kids can magically play up from U13. Etc etc etc.
All of this bloviating is so pointless. |
Anonymous
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Different Valor points out college coaches don't care about your age group.
https://www.valorsoccer.com/copy-of-tryouts-faq "Will this impact college recruiting? This change will not negatively impact college recruiting. College coaches evaluate players based on their performance, development, and potential, not the exact age grouping of their club team. " They will also give kids the option to play up with friends and other play up on case by case. |
Anonymous
Hahahaha you have no clue. Every top team Aug Sept birthday will play on the team thats their grade in school and probabaly lower competitive/travel teams will do the same as well. It's just what better players do that are planning to play in college and be correctly aligned for recruiting. Notice how Colorado doesnt have a rule for 9th grade High School on 8th grade teams. This is because it will never happen because CRYSC will roster Aug Sept birthdays with their correct grade in school team. |
Anonymous
Again you're mixing two seperate things. Valor is saying that changing from BY to SY is better for college recruiting. This is because all players on the field during games will be the same grade in school. Valor is not saying anything about Aug and Sept birthdays playing on a grade down team. If you asked them about this they would probabaly say that its a bad idea if the player wants to get recruited and play in college. |
Anonymous
Let's just highlight this one again... Freshman/Sophomore/Junior/Senior classes. Will this hurt my child’s college recruiting process? No. In fact, it is expected to help. College coaches recruit by graduating class (e.g., "Class of 2028"). Aligning club soccer age groups with school grades makes it easier for scouts to evaluate players against their direct academic peers, streamlining the recruiting pathway |
Anonymous
Pretty clear age groups don't matter for recruiting because college coaches evaluate players not what age group they are in. "Will this impact college recruiting? This change will not negatively impact college recruiting. College coaches evaluate players based on their performance, development, and potential, not the exact age grouping of their club team. " |
Anonymous
Again they're talking about BY to SY change. Not Aug/Sept birthdays playing on a geade down team. |
Anonymous
Crystal clear, college coaches evaluate players not their age groups. "College coaches evaluate players based on their performance, development, and potential, not the exact age grouping of their club team" |
Anonymous
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Let's go back a little and look at age guys track record.
1. He jumped on the SY bandwagon early because he wants players to play down. Ended up being right but out of luck not for the reasons he wants 2. He's been trying to start a rumor that ENCL will have GY showcases. Was proven to be an idiot and just didnt understand that because ECNL has a u18/u19 grouping that in SY Junior and Senior year showcases will be GY. 3. Is now trying to reinterrupt the BY to SY change which was done so more players could be on teams with their school grade cohorts. Into Aug and Sept players playing down. Which just recreates BY trapped player issues but on the opposite site of the eligibility window. Clubs and parents will figure it out SY again and Aug birthdays will be rostered on their correct grade in school teams. |
Anonymous
Freshman/Sophomore/Junior/Senior classes. Will this hurt my child’s college recruiting process? No. In fact, it is expected to help. College coaches recruit by graduating class (e.g., "Class of 2028"). Aligning club soccer age groups with school grades makes it easier for scouts to evaluate players against their direct academic peers, streamlining the recruiting pathway |
Anonymous
There is no one age person. Only a bunch of people saying SY+60 and youth soccer going grade year is nonsense based on published league rules. People aren't advocating for anything, they are just telling you the rules which you don't like. |