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Anonymous wrote:Virginian -- Witnessed some horrific coach behavior ... yelling the whole time..at his players, at the ref..Then he used the F word in front of 9 and 10-year olds. No card. Pretty shocking. Also discovered a team playing illegally. No roster...and they used the same jerseys...switched shirts w subs. No idea how they let them play. Not too impressed with that.



Where was the field marshal?


Standing there doing nothing.


Field marshalls are volunteers (likely syc parents that were required to fill slots). They do not have any authority. The center ref has the power (and responsibility) to discipline the offending coach / team.


Agreed -- and this poor ref was young and completely intimidated by the screamy Md coach and the Md parent volunteer he had picked to run the sideline.


What club? Age group? I'm curious. What happens to a coach if this happens? I would think he would get fired AT LEAST! If my son's coach was screaming at the ref dropping F bombs, I feel like I would punch him right in the face and I hope that there would be a line of parents behind me. This is unacceptable. If he still has a job, then the club needs to be called out.


U11 boys. I was seriously surprised. I actually asked the parents if that was normal behavior for their coach. They were not pleased with me, but they did not exactly defend him either. Maybe they don't have a lot of other clubs nearby and he's the only option at that club.


What Club?
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Anonymous wrote:Heard about a new futsal academy so thought I would share in case anyone is interested. Sounds like it will be competitive and modeled after some of the established futsal academies in the country. Price doesn't seem to bad if you can get to Dulles Sportplex.

http://www.pumaelite.com.prod.sportngin.com/page/show/3351971--futsal-academy



It's FCV and we didn't have a good experience last winter. We did well, but played age groups all over the place and it was more than the typical +/- 1 year. They also scheduled the playoffs during the tournament weekends Assist and Jeff Cup so the top teams had to forfeit.


That is not the same as the Futsal Academy. What you played in was just informal Futsal "league" to keep teams playing over the winter. The academy is actual Futsal training with Futsal tournament play. Two very different things.
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Can we please ban teams from http://www.barcasoccer.com/. I'm referring to the knock off group, not the FCBEscola guys. We have planed against them a few times and watched them in tournaments more than I would like. They are dirty players and the crap they pull from flopping (overkill) and WWE style of soccer is going to really hurt someone. The players are dirty (many look older than their age group) and the coaches are as bad as the players. Any of your kids play against team? I completely understand that soccer is a physical sport, but to team dirty playing at the <U15 is not gamesmanship. Having played multiple sports growing up and in college, I understand there are tricks of trade, but I draw the line when I see U10 players mimicking a-hole tactics. I keep my cool, but understand how some parents get into it on the sidelines. If you see them, be prepare to carry someone off the field. >
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Anonymous wrote:Heard about a new futsal academy so thought I would share in case anyone is interested. Sounds like it will be competitive and modeled after some of the established futsal academies in the country. Price doesn't seem to bad if you can get to Dulles Sportplex.

http://www.pumaelite.com.prod.sportngin.com/page/show/3351971--futsal-academy



It's FCV and we didn't have a good experience last winter. We did well, but played age groups all over the place and it was more than the typical +/- 1 year. They also scheduled the playoffs during the tournament weekends Assist and Jeff Cup so the top teams had to forfeit.


That is not the same as the Futsal Academy. What you played in was just informal Futsal "league" to keep teams playing over the winter. The academy is actual Futsal training with Futsal tournament play. Two very different things.


You are correct, my oversight.
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Anonymous wrote:Virginian -- Witnessed some horrific coach behavior ... yelling the whole time..at his players, at the ref..Then he used the F word in front of 9 and 10-year olds. No card. Pretty shocking. Also discovered a team playing illegally. No roster...and they used the same jerseys...switched shirts w subs. No idea how they let them play. Not too impressed with that.



Where was the field marshal?


Standing there doing nothing.


Field marshalls are volunteers (likely syc parents that were required to fill slots). They do not have any authority. The center ref has the power (and responsibility) to discipline the offending coach / team.


Agreed -- and this poor ref was young and completely intimidated by the screamy Md coach and the Md parent volunteer he had picked to run the sideline.


What club? Age group? I'm curious. What happens to a coach if this happens? I would think he would get fired AT LEAST! If my son's coach was screaming at the ref dropping F bombs, I feel like I would punch him right in the face and I hope that there would be a line of parents behind me. This is unacceptable. If he still has a job, then the club needs to be called out.


U11 boys. I was seriously surprised. I actually asked the parents if that was normal behavior for their coach. They were not pleased with me, but they did not exactly defend him either. Maybe they don't have a lot of other clubs nearby and he's the only option at that club.


What Club?


Agreed, what club? Call them out, everyone post as "anonymous" anyways. Don't hold back now.
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Anonymous wrote:Can we please ban teams from http://www.barcasoccer.com/. I'm referring to the knock off group, not the FCBEscola guys. We have planed against them a few times and watched them in tournaments more than I would like. They are dirty players and the crap they pull from flopping (overkill) and WWE style of soccer is going to really hurt someone. The players are dirty (many look older than their age group) and the coaches are as bad as the players. Any of your kids play against team? I completely understand that soccer is a physical sport, but to team dirty playing at the <U15 is not gamesmanship. Having played multiple sports growing up and in college, I understand there are tricks of trade, but I draw the line when I see U10 players mimicking a-hole tactics. I keep my cool, but understand how some parents get into it on the sidelines. If you see them, be prepare to carry someone off the field. >


This team was playing next to where my kid was playing at VA Elite. Didn't see much of that game, but the parents were loud as heck...chanting, cheering, etc. What did you see them do?
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There was one parent eject that I saw, coach got talked to but was not yellow carded. Tournament volunteer came and stood on the parent side the rest of the game.

U10 - parent got on the ref for not calling a sandwich on his kid. But... they're U10 dude it's gonna happen with 9yo boys
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Anonymous wrote:Virginian -- Witnessed some horrific coach behavior ... yelling the whole time..at his players, at the ref..Then he used the F word in front of 9 and 10-year olds. No card. Pretty shocking. Also discovered a team playing illegally. No roster...and they used the same jerseys...switched shirts w subs. No idea how they let them play. Not too impressed with that.



Where was the field marshal?


Standing there doing nothing.


Field marshalls are volunteers (likely syc parents that were required to fill slots). They do not have any authority. The center ref has the power (and responsibility) to discipline the offending coach / team.


Agreed -- and this poor ref was young and completely intimidated by the screamy Md coach and the Md parent volunteer he had picked to run the sideline.


What club? Age group? I'm curious. What happens to a coach if this happens? I would think he would get fired AT LEAST! If my son's coach was screaming at the ref dropping F bombs, I feel like I would punch him right in the face and I hope that there would be a line of parents behind me. This is unacceptable. If he still has a job, then the club needs to be called out.


U11 boys. I was seriously surprised. I actually asked the parents if that was normal behavior for their coach. They were not pleased with me, but they did not exactly defend him either. Maybe they don't have a lot of other clubs nearby and he's the only option at that club.


What Club?


Agreed, what club? Call them out, everyone post as "anonymous" anyways. Don't hold back now.


No need to. It's not one of the bigger or well known Md clubs and this was very much a coach thing. The kids (remember, 9 and 10 year olds) were just fine. Good sportsmanship (expect for one little faker!) mostly. I don't want to taint an entire club for what could be an issue with just that team. If you come across them, trust me you will know! The coach screams in a whiny, very high pitch.
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Anonymous wrote:Virginian -- Witnessed some horrific coach behavior ... yelling the whole time..at his players, at the ref..Then he used the F word in front of 9 and 10-year olds. No card. Pretty shocking. Also discovered a team playing illegally. No roster...and they used the same jerseys...switched shirts w subs. No idea how they let them play. Not too impressed with that.



Where was the field marshal?


Standing there doing nothing.


The refs at this year's Virginian were incompetent at best, in every age group, boys and girls.
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Anonymous wrote:Can we please ban teams from http://www.barcasoccer.com/. I'm referring to the knock off group, not the FCBEscola guys. We have planed against them a few times and watched them in tournaments more than I would like. They are dirty players and the crap they pull from flopping (overkill) and WWE style of soccer is going to really hurt someone. The players are dirty (many look older than their age group) and the coaches are as bad as the players. Any of your kids play against team? I completely understand that soccer is a physical sport, but to team dirty playing at the <U15 is not gamesmanship. Having played multiple sports growing up and in college, I understand there are tricks of trade, but I draw the line when I see U10 players mimicking a-hole tactics. I keep my cool, but understand how some parents get into it on the sidelines. If you see them, be prepare to carry someone off the field. >


This team was playing next to where my kid was playing at VA Elite. Didn't see much of that game, but the parents were loud as heck...chanting, cheering, etc. What did you see them do?


Our left midfielder was destroying their right back and I was filming behind their goal. During one play, their back fell down while trying to tackle. I then heard an assistant coach tell him to stay down, when the ref came the kid on the ground pointed at our midfielder saying he stomped on the back of his leg on purpose. Total BS and great acting. Another example is their arm locking tactic where they basically pretzel twist the opponent's arm while trying to tackle the ball and you know they practice it because they only do it when their they are facing the ref. Just ugly rough play that has no place I youth sports. I don't have an issue with the parents chanting except when they support dirty plays.
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Anonymous wrote:Virginian -- Witnessed some horrific coach behavior ... yelling the whole time..at his players, at the ref..Then he used the F word in front of 9 and 10-year olds. No card. Pretty shocking. Also discovered a team playing illegally. No roster...and they used the same jerseys...switched shirts w subs. No idea how they let them play. Not too impressed with that.



Where was the field marshal?


Standing there doing nothing.


The refs at this year's Virginian were incompetent at best, in every age group, boys and girls.


The refs for U14G at The Virginian were fine. Neither young nor old - fair, attentive, and maintained control of the matches.
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We had a ref this weekend who called everything in favor of the team with smaller-sized players. Several different club's teams noticed this over the weekend, it was very odd. The other team got at least 10 kicks from it in one of our games, we couldn't even tell for what most of the time. Luckily we won anyway.

Too bad he wasn't reffing for my other kid's team (which has many small players) as they might have won a game this weekend.
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We went down 3-0 in 6 minutes on a team we dominate usually because home ref called a penalty kick for something nobody could understand---nobody was even in the box--just striker and our goalie. Goalie and opposing player didn't even make contact. Then, right away an INCREDIBLY blatant offsides goal. Followed by a free kick for ??? god knows what. Kids were all whacked out after that. They did manage a rally in 2nd half but wasn't enough after a horrible called game.

Whenever the home coach yelled at ref or corner guy (poor young guys) they would reverse their call. It was ridiculous. I guess when you have the home ref at your home fields it happens.

Ironically, we have a home ref who has a grudge against my younger son's team. He always calls everything against them and gives our coach hell all of the time. Coach is reserved so we don't quite understand it. He is an incredibly bad ref which several teams (home and opposing) noted.
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DS's team was the beneficiary of the funniest bad call I've ever seen. His teammate was three feet away from the nearest defender when he swung his foot at the ball, whiffed and fell. Ref called a foul.

The other team's parents were understandably furious, but the play passed without a goal or a card, so it was pretty harmless. Outcome was never in doubt, anyway -- they crushed DS's team.
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Anonymous wrote:Virginian -- Witnessed some horrific coach behavior ... yelling the whole time..at his players, at the ref..Then he used the F word in front of 9 and 10-year olds. No card. Pretty shocking. Also discovered a team playing illegally. No roster...and they used the same jerseys...switched shirts w subs. No idea how they let them play. Not too impressed with that.



Where was the field marshal?


Standing there doing nothing.


The refs at this year's Virginian were incompetent at best, in every age group, boys and girls.


The refs for U14G at The Virginian were fine. Neither young nor old - fair, attentive, and maintained control of the matches.


Refs at Evergreen for older girls groups were fine, and very good for final matches on Monday. We had more issues with the "parent refs" that like to yell out every call or offside they think they saw to sway the officials, and then get up in arms when they think the game isn't going their way.

Unless you spent your weekend driving around to every field in Fairfax and Loudoun Counties, you really have no basis to claim that the refs were incompetent in EVERY age group/gender.
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