Wootton Announces They Have Formally Retained Silverman & Thompson

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Anonymous wrote:There is about a 30%-40% difference in math and reading proficiency scores between Fields road and the Wootton cluster elementary schools.

Why do you think this is? I will tell you why-parent engagement. Many of the lower performing elementary schools have parents that are working multiple jobs, The kids are left alone sometimes for extended periods. Academics takes a back seat. Not saying they have full control over this but this is the reality.

I love how some of you think these kids will magically become high performers when moved to Crown. I’m sure they already had great teachers who tried to push them to achieve. Unless you have a ton of internal motivation that simply doesn’t work.

Exactly this. Why should families that worked hard for a home in the Wootton cluster have to send their kids to school with classmates who are less motivated, less engaged, and less successful?

This comment might be the winner of "most offensive" on this thread, which is really a high bar given some of the prior comments.

What in the world makes you think that others have also not "worked hard" for their homes (in any cluster)? And why would you ever label children you (presumably) don't even know as "less motivated" or "less engaged"? Your message makes children, yes CHILDREN, sound helpless and hopeless.

Truly, I hope you never speak to any children who are not your own and I feel terribly for yours to be raised by someone as awful as you sound.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is about a 30%-40% difference in math and reading proficiency scores between Fields road and the Wootton cluster elementary schools.

Why do you think this is? I will tell you why-parent engagement. Many of the lower performing elementary schools have parents that are working multiple jobs, The kids are left alone sometimes for extended periods. Academics takes a back seat. Not saying they have full control over this but this is the reality.

I love how some of you think these kids will magically become high performers when moved to Crown. I’m sure they already had great teachers who tried to push them to achieve. Unless you have a ton of internal motivation that simply doesn’t work.

Then as a perfect person, you can step in and help these kids be high achievers. Let’s be real, there are kids from the desirable parents who aren’t high achievers bringing scores down. So, by these statements those kids should be immediately transferred and not allowed at Wootton.

Who ever is posting makes Wootton look like a really bad school, though the reality is it’s only one or a handful of people. So, what happens if your kid or grandkid has special needs or a learning disability? Are they cast out as they aren’t achieving up to your standards? And, what are your kids goals and sat scores? What classes do they take? Highest math achieved?

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Anonymous wrote:There is about a 30%-40% difference in math and reading proficiency scores between Fields road and the Wootton cluster elementary schools.

Why do you think this is? I will tell you why-parent engagement. Many of the lower performing elementary schools have parents that are working multiple jobs, The kids are left alone sometimes for extended periods. Academics takes a back seat. Not saying they have full control over this but this is the reality.

I love how some of you think these kids will magically become high performers when moved to Crown. I’m sure they already had great teachers who tried to push them to achieve. Unless you have a ton of internal motivation that simply doesn’t work.

Exactly this. Why should families that worked hard for a home in the Wootton cluster have to send their kids to school with classmates who are less motivated, less engaged, and less successful?

It's so hard to tell who is being serious here.

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Anonymous wrote:There is about a 30%-40% difference in math and reading proficiency scores between Fields road and the Wootton cluster elementary schools.

Why do you think this is? I will tell you why-parent engagement. Many of the lower performing elementary schools have parents that are working multiple jobs, The kids are left alone sometimes for extended periods. Academics takes a back seat. Not saying they have full control over this but this is the reality.

I love how some of you think these kids will magically become high performers when moved to Crown. I’m sure they already had great teachers who tried to push them to achieve. Unless you have a ton of internal motivation that simply doesn’t work.

Exactly this. Why should families that worked hard for a home in the Wootton cluster have to send their kids to school with classmates who are less motivated, less engaged, and less successful?

If you are both real people posting in good faith about what you think about kids that attend Fields Road, I can tell you it sounds like your kids and your family as a whole will benefit a lot from being part of a community with kids from Fields Road. You will hopefully become less ignorant and more resilient. To those of us whose kids attend racially and socioeconomically diverse schools, it sounds like you are suffering greatly from disordered thinking, and I really hope you get better.

“disordered thinking” So you think the statistics about math and reading proficiency are made up?

No, the disordered part is you all thinking Wootton families are somehow being victimized by being assigned to the same high school as Fields Ro as d kids

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is about a 30%-40% difference in math and reading proficiency scores between Fields road and the Wootton cluster elementary schools.

Why do you think this is? I will tell you why-parent engagement. Many of the lower performing elementary schools have parents that are working multiple jobs, The kids are left alone sometimes for extended periods. Academics takes a back seat. Not saying they have full control over this but this is the reality.

I love how some of you think these kids will magically become high performers when moved to Crown. I’m sure they already had great teachers who tried to push them to achieve. Unless you have a ton of internal motivation that simply doesn’t work.

Exactly this. Why should families that worked hard for a home in the Wootton cluster have to send their kids to school with classmates who are less motivated, less engaged, and less successful?

If you are both real people posting in good faith about what you think about kids that attend Fields Road, I can tell you it sounds like your kids and your family as a whole will benefit a lot from being part of a community with kids from Fields Road. You will hopefully become less ignorant and more resilient. To those of us whose kids attend racially and socioeconomically diverse schools, it sounds like you are suffering greatly from disordered thinking, and I really hope you get better.

“disordered thinking” So you think the statistics about math and reading proficiency are made up?

You are saying that there are minimum qualifications to go to school at Wootton with high-achieving students, so that should be across the board and regardless of where kids live, they should be shut out without minimum GPA's, high level courses, and at least 1400 SAT (so 90%). There are kids at Wootton who are struggling - academically, homelife, and emotionally - look at some of the stuff that has happened there. Good families are subjective. You can have your basic needs met by money, but not emotionally or in other ways. Plenty of kids with mental health and other issues there, just like in all schools. Looking down on a parent who makes less than you and say their kids cannot go to school with yours, speaks volumes of your character. How much do you make? So, what if families who make more than you deem your salary not enough and want your kids out?

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Anonymous wrote:It's still crazy to close one of the top public high schools in the state unless you value equity over excellence in which case it makes perfect sense.

Why do you think excellence will decrease in the new building?

Black kids and a lesser town’s name in the address. Half of the IB parents think it was in Potomac to begin with. That sort of delusion was never going be able to absorb the slight of rubbing their faces the county’s indifference. Half of them think this is about Whitman levels of resentment but nobody cares about a Rockville school. It’s not rich enough to be important or poor enough to be cool and school status or envy is really neighborhood status/envy. They spent a generation thinking “at least we are not gaithersburg” and presto change-o now they are. When they talk about losing their identity, thats the identity they are talking about. With some more poor kids thrown into the mix they will slide down academic rankings a tad too and then just be another middle tier not W school regardless of their motivated Asian population. They were comfortable as a faux W “North” Potomac school with good test scores.

Lol OMG this is it! Well said

+1 PP wins this thread

For stupid, yes.

Man Crown parents are sensitive

Crown parents probably have more money than Wootton given housing prices.

Actually not. Yes, the SFHs are absurdly expensive, but that's a very small percentage of the housing there.

The townhomes are a million or more too.

I don't get the concern for other kids' test scores. It helps your kids with college admissions not to be in such a competitive environment. Then, these same parents complain about their kids college acceptances.

Townhouse kids don’t belong at Wootton.

There are townhouse kids there now. So, should they all be transfered asap as well as any student without a 3.5 GPA and 1400 SAT?

i’m trying to figure out how many times you have made this same comment about gpa and sat score. It’s been multiple times on multiple threads. I would guess maybe we are up to at least a dozen but probably more. Are you really this stupid that you just keep making the same comment over and over thinking it’s just so clever?

The complaint is bringing in students who are lower achieving so it makes sense to set a minimum standard for all Wootton students.

The PP is trying to be snarky, but failing. Wootton has high academic achievement and graduation rate. It’s likely these will decrease with the move to Crown, which is why many families have expressed concern. Instead of acknowledging this likelihood, the trolls on this thread choose ridicule to delegitimize it. Reputation of a high school matters, whether it’s academics or sports - both of which drive home purchase decisions.

Perhaps Wootton won’t take much of an academic hit. But if it does, history will not look favorably on MCPS for its decision.

1. Thank you for acknowledging that home value, as opposed to academic matters, drive the opposition.

2. I, at least, have acknowledged multiple times that there is a small chance that the average scores and graduation rate will go down slightly- though in reality the scores for all individual students will either go up or stay the same- so there is no negative impact predicted for any student.

3. Also nothing you are saying has anything to do with the move of the physical building, but the change in boundary and slight modification to cohort- revealing that the true concern here is maintaining segregation.

That isn’t what the PP posted, but you knew that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is about a 30%-40% difference in math and reading proficiency scores between Fields road and the Wootton cluster elementary schools.

Why do you think this is? I will tell you why-parent engagement. Many of the lower performing elementary schools have parents that are working multiple jobs, The kids are left alone sometimes for extended periods. Academics takes a back seat. Not saying they have full control over this but this is the reality.

I love how some of you think these kids will magically become high performers when moved to Crown. I’m sure they already had great teachers who tried to push them to achieve. Unless you have a ton of internal motivation that simply doesn’t work.

Exactly this. Why should families that worked hard for a home in the Wootton cluster have to send their kids to school with classmates who are less motivated, less engaged, and less successful?

If you are both real people posting in good faith about what you think about kids that attend Fields Road, I can tell you it sounds like your kids and your family as a whole will benefit a lot from being part of a community with kids from Fields Road. You will hopefully become less ignorant and more resilient. To those of us whose kids attend racially and socioeconomically diverse schools, it sounds like you are suffering greatly from disordered thinking, and I really hope you get better.

“disordered thinking” So you think the statistics about math and reading proficiency are made up?

You are saying that there are minimum qualifications to go to school at Wootton with high-achieving students, so that should be across the board and regardless of where kids live, they should be shut out without minimum GPA's, high level courses, and at least 1400 SAT (so 90%). There are kids at Wootton who are struggling - academically, homelife, and emotionally - look at some of the stuff that has happened there. Good families are subjective. You can have your basic needs met by money, but not emotionally or in other ways. Plenty of kids with mental health and other issues there, just like in all schools. Looking down on a parent who makes less than you and say their kids cannot go to school with yours, speaks volumes of your character. How much do you make? So, what if families who make more than you deem your salary not enough and want your kids out?

You are making this too emotional. It’s normal for people to want their kids to go to school with high achieving students. And I think we all want our kids to go to school with kids that are at least doing the bare minimum-being able to score proficiently on reading and math tests. These kids aren’t even meeting state benchmarks. We are not talking about a small gap in performance. We are talking about a huge gap. And you think it’s not going to make any difference? Although the curriculum is the “same” at every MCPS school-the reality of that is very different from school to school. Have you ever spoken to a teacher at a lower performing school? There is a huge difference in what is actually being covered when you have kids in the class that are so far behind. If there was a 5-10% difference this probably wouldn’t even be noticeable. But the kind of difference we are seeing here? Come on. When kids don’t have college/trade school etc… in their future they stop caring about school. Then they either drop out or barely pass-both of which have a negative effect on a school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is about a 30%-40% difference in math and reading proficiency scores between Fields road and the Wootton cluster elementary schools.

Why do you think this is? I will tell you why-parent engagement. Many of the lower performing elementary schools have parents that are working multiple jobs, The kids are left alone sometimes for extended periods. Academics takes a back seat. Not saying they have full control over this but this is the reality.

I love how some of you think these kids will magically become high performers when moved to Crown. I’m sure they already had great teachers who tried to push them to achieve. Unless you have a ton of internal motivation that simply doesn’t work.

Exactly this. Why should families that worked hard for a home in the Wootton cluster have to send their kids to school with classmates who are less motivated, less engaged, and less successful?

If you are both real people posting in good faith about what you think about kids that attend Fields Road, I can tell you it sounds like your kids and your family as a whole will benefit a lot from being part of a community with kids from Fields Road. You will hopefully become less ignorant and more resilient. To those of us whose kids attend racially and socioeconomically diverse schools, it sounds like you are suffering greatly from disordered thinking, and I really hope you get better.

“disordered thinking” So you think the statistics about math and reading proficiency are made up?

You are saying that there are minimum qualifications to go to school at Wootton with high-achieving students, so that should be across the board and regardless of where kids live, they should be shut out without minimum GPA's, high level courses, and at least 1400 SAT (so 90%). There are kids at Wootton who are struggling - academically, homelife, and emotionally - look at some of the stuff that has happened there. Good families are subjective. You can have your basic needs met by money, but not emotionally or in other ways. Plenty of kids with mental health and other issues there, just like in all schools. Looking down on a parent who makes less than you and say their kids cannot go to school with yours, speaks volumes of your character. How much do you make? So, what if families who make more than you deem your salary not enough and want your kids out?

You are making this too emotional. It’s normal for people to want their kids to go to school with high achieving students. And I think we all want our kids to go to school with kids that are at least doing the bare minimum-being able to score proficiently on reading and math tests. These kids aren’t even meeting state benchmarks. We are not talking about a small gap in performance. We are talking about a huge gap. And you think it’s not going to make any difference? Although the curriculum is the “same” at every MCPS school-the reality of that is very different from school to school. Have you ever spoken to a teacher at a lower performing school? There is a huge difference in what is actually being covered when you have kids in the class that are so far behind. If there was a 5-10% difference this probably wouldn’t even be noticeable. But the kind of difference we are seeing here? Come on. When kids don’t have college/trade school etc… in their future they stop caring about school. Then they either drop out or barely pass-both of which have a negative effect on a school.

No, it’s not normal. I don’t care how your kids achieve, I care mine do. So, should the lower achieving kids from those families be removed from the school as they don’t meet expectations. Why is it ok for some low achieving students from those families who you deem worthy ok to attend but not ones from another local community whose parents may have equal or higher earning power.

I’m kinda shocked at the low incomes discussed in some of the Wootton threads. Why would you stretch like that?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is about a 30%-40% difference in math and reading proficiency scores between Fields road and the Wootton cluster elementary schools.

Why do you think this is? I will tell you why-parent engagement. Many of the lower performing elementary schools have parents that are working multiple jobs, The kids are left alone sometimes for extended periods. Academics takes a back seat. Not saying they have full control over this but this is the reality.

I love how some of you think these kids will magically become high performers when moved to Crown. I’m sure they already had great teachers who tried to push them to achieve. Unless you have a ton of internal motivation that simply doesn’t work.

Exactly this. Why should families that worked hard for a home in the Wootton cluster have to send their kids to school with classmates who are less motivated, less engaged, and less successful?

If you are both real people posting in good faith about what you think about kids that attend Fields Road, I can tell you it sounds like your kids and your family as a whole will benefit a lot from being part of a community with kids from Fields Road. You will hopefully become less ignorant and more resilient. To those of us whose kids attend racially and socioeconomically diverse schools, it sounds like you are suffering greatly from disordered thinking, and I really hope you get better.

“disordered thinking” So you think the statistics about math and reading proficiency are made up?

You are saying that there are minimum qualifications to go to school at Wootton with high-achieving students, so that should be across the board and regardless of where kids live, they should be shut out without minimum GPA's, high level courses, and at least 1400 SAT (so 90%). There are kids at Wootton who are struggling - academically, homelife, and emotionally - look at some of the stuff that has happened there. Good families are subjective. You can have your basic needs met by money, but not emotionally or in other ways. Plenty of kids with mental health and other issues there, just like in all schools. Looking down on a parent who makes less than you and say their kids cannot go to school with yours, speaks volumes of your character. How much do you make? So, what if families who make more than you deem your salary not enough and want your kids out?

You are making this too emotional. It’s normal for people to want their kids to go to school with high achieving students. And I think we all want our kids to go to school with kids that are at least doing the bare minimum-being able to score proficiently on reading and math tests. These kids aren’t even meeting state benchmarks. We are not talking about a small gap in performance. We are talking about a huge gap. And you think it’s not going to make any difference? Although the curriculum is the “same” at every MCPS school-the reality of that is very different from school to school. Have you ever spoken to a teacher at a lower performing school? There is a huge difference in what is actually being covered when you have kids in the class that are so far behind. If there was a 5-10% difference this probably wouldn’t even be noticeable. But the kind of difference we are seeing here? Come on. When kids don’t have college/trade school etc… in their future they stop caring about school. Then they either drop out or barely pass-both of which have a negative effect on a school.

No, it’s not normal. I don’t care how your kids achieve, I care mine do. So, should the lower achieving kids from those families be removed from the school as they don’t meet expectations. Why is it ok for some low achieving students from those families who you deem worthy ok to attend but not ones from another local community whose parents may have equal or higher earning power.

I’m kinda shocked at the low incomes discussed in some of the Wootton threads. Why would you stretch like that?

Well, you can’t even form a coherent sentence in your reply. You are proving my point 🙂.

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Anonymous wrote:There is about a 30%-40% difference in math and reading proficiency scores between Fields road and the Wootton cluster elementary schools.

Why do you think this is? I will tell you why-parent engagement. Many of the lower performing elementary schools have parents that are working multiple jobs, The kids are left alone sometimes for extended periods. Academics takes a back seat. Not saying they have full control over this but this is the reality.

I love how some of you think these kids will magically become high performers when moved to Crown. I’m sure they already had great teachers who tried to push them to achieve. Unless you have a ton of internal motivation that simply doesn’t work.

Exactly this. Why should families that worked hard for a home in the Wootton cluster have to send their kids to school with classmates who are less motivated, less engaged, and less successful?

If you are both real people posting in good faith about what you think about kids that attend Fields Road, I can tell you it sounds like your kids and your family as a whole will benefit a lot from being part of a community with kids from Fields Road. You will hopefully become less ignorant and more resilient. To those of us whose kids attend racially and socioeconomically diverse schools, it sounds like you are suffering greatly from disordered thinking, and I really hope you get better.

“disordered thinking” So you think the statistics about math and reading proficiency are made up?

You are saying that there are minimum qualifications to go to school at Wootton with high-achieving students, so that should be across the board and regardless of where kids live, they should be shut out without minimum GPA's, high level courses, and at least 1400 SAT (so 90%). There are kids at Wootton who are struggling - academically, homelife, and emotionally - look at some of the stuff that has happened there. Good families are subjective. You can have your basic needs met by money, but not emotionally or in other ways. Plenty of kids with mental health and other issues there, just like in all schools. Looking down on a parent who makes less than you and say their kids cannot go to school with yours, speaks volumes of your character. How much do you make? So, what if families who make more than you deem your salary not enough and want your kids out?

You are making this too emotional. It’s normal for people to want their kids to go to school with high achieving students. And I think we all want our kids to go to school with kids that are at least doing the bare minimum-being able to score proficiently on reading and math tests. These kids aren’t even meeting state benchmarks. We are not talking about a small gap in performance. We are talking about a huge gap. And you think it’s not going to make any difference? Although the curriculum is the “same” at every MCPS school-the reality of that is very different from school to school. Have you ever spoken to a teacher at a lower performing school? There is a huge difference in what is actually being covered when you have kids in the class that are so far behind. If there was a 5-10% difference this probably wouldn’t even be noticeable. But the kind of difference we are seeing here? Come on. When kids don’t have college/trade school etc… in their future they stop caring about school. Then they either drop out or barely pass-both of which have a negative effect on a school.

No, it’s not normal. I don’t care how your kids achieve, I care mine do. So, should the lower achieving kids from those families be removed from the school as they don’t meet expectations. Why is it ok for some low achieving students from those families who you deem worthy ok to attend but not ones from another local community whose parents may have equal or higher earning power.

I’m kinda shocked at the low incomes discussed in some of the Wootton threads. Why would you stretch like that?

Well, you can’t even form a coherent sentence in your reply. You are proving my point 🙂.

No, you make no sense. You are saying Wootton is for high achievers. So, any lower achievers regardless of their parents income or address need to be immediately removed from the school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is about a 30%-40% difference in math and reading proficiency scores between Fields road and the Wootton cluster elementary schools.

Why do you think this is? I will tell you why-parent engagement. Many of the lower performing elementary schools have parents that are working multiple jobs, The kids are left alone sometimes for extended periods. Academics takes a back seat. Not saying they have full control over this but this is the reality.

I love how some of you think these kids will magically become high performers when moved to Crown. I’m sure they already had great teachers who tried to push them to achieve. Unless you have a ton of internal motivation that simply doesn’t work.

So you are saying cohort doesn’t matter? In that case you shouldn’t worry about scores changing for any kids in either direction. So, no problem.

Their scores will affect the overall school rating, obviously.

Rating on what? Some made up site for strivers, like Niche?

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Anonymous wrote:There is about a 30%-40% difference in math and reading proficiency scores between Fields road and the Wootton cluster elementary schools.

Why do you think this is? I will tell you why-parent engagement. Many of the lower performing elementary schools have parents that are working multiple jobs, The kids are left alone sometimes for extended periods. Academics takes a back seat. Not saying they have full control over this but this is the reality.

I love how some of you think these kids will magically become high performers when moved to Crown. I’m sure they already had great teachers who tried to push them to achieve. Unless you have a ton of internal motivation that simply doesn’t work.

So you are saying cohort doesn’t matter? In that case you shouldn’t worry about scores changing for any kids in either direction. So, no problem.

Their scores will affect the overall school rating, obviously.

Rating on what? Some made up site for strivers, like Niche?

It’s self segregation as they are ok with low achievers wishing their select group.

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Anonymous wrote:There is about a 30%-40% difference in math and reading proficiency scores between Fields road and the Wootton cluster elementary schools.

Why do you think this is? I will tell you why-parent engagement. Many of the lower performing elementary schools have parents that are working multiple jobs, The kids are left alone sometimes for extended periods. Academics takes a back seat. Not saying they have full control over this but this is the reality.

I love how some of you think these kids will magically become high performers when moved to Crown. I’m sure they already had great teachers who tried to push them to achieve. Unless you have a ton of internal motivation that simply doesn’t work.

So you are saying cohort doesn’t matter? In that case you shouldn’t worry about scores changing for any kids in either direction. So, no problem.

Their scores will affect the overall school rating, obviously.

Rating on what? Some made up site for strivers, like Niche?

The answer to your question is staring at you in the sentence that you quoted.

If test scores are so irrelevant for you, why bother sending kids to school to learn something.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is about a 30%-40% difference in math and reading proficiency scores between Fields road and the Wootton cluster elementary schools.

Why do you think this is? I will tell you why-parent engagement. Many of the lower performing elementary schools have parents that are working multiple jobs, The kids are left alone sometimes for extended periods. Academics takes a back seat. Not saying they have full control over this but this is the reality.

I love how some of you think these kids will magically become high performers when moved to Crown. I’m sure they already had great teachers who tried to push them to achieve. Unless you have a ton of internal motivation that simply doesn’t work.

Exactly this. Why should families that worked hard for a home in the Wootton cluster have to send their kids to school with classmates who are less motivated, less engaged, and less successful?

If you are both real people posting in good faith about what you think about kids that attend Fields Road, I can tell you it sounds like your kids and your family as a whole will benefit a lot from being part of a community with kids from Fields Road. You will hopefully become less ignorant and more resilient. To those of us whose kids attend racially and socioeconomically diverse schools, it sounds like you are suffering greatly from disordered thinking, and I really hope you get better.

“disordered thinking” So you think the statistics about math and reading proficiency are made up?

You are saying that there are minimum qualifications to go to school at Wootton with high-achieving students, so that should be across the board and regardless of where kids live, they should be shut out without minimum GPA's, high level courses, and at least 1400 SAT (so 90%). There are kids at Wootton who are struggling - academically, homelife, and emotionally - look at some of the stuff that has happened there. Good families are subjective. You can have your basic needs met by money, but not emotionally or in other ways. Plenty of kids with mental health and other issues there, just like in all schools. Looking down on a parent who makes less than you and say their kids cannot go to school with yours, speaks volumes of your character. How much do you make? So, what if families who make more than you deem your salary not enough and want your kids out?

You are making this too emotional. It’s normal for people to want their kids to go to school with high achieving students. And I think we all want our kids to go to school with kids that are at least doing the bare minimum-being able to score proficiently on reading and math tests. These kids aren’t even meeting state benchmarks. We are not talking about a small gap in performance. We are talking about a huge gap. And you think it’s not going to make any difference? Although the curriculum is the “same” at every MCPS school-the reality of that is very different from school to school. Have you ever spoken to a teacher at a lower performing school? There is a huge difference in what is actually being covered when you have kids in the class that are so far behind. If there was a 5-10% difference this probably wouldn’t even be noticeable. But the kind of difference we are seeing here? Come on. When kids don’t have college/trade school etc… in their future they stop caring about school. Then they either drop out or barely pass-both of which have a negative effect on a school.

Go ask Churchill millionnaires about how much having Scotland in their district affects their childrens' learning.

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Anonymous wrote:There is about a 30%-40% difference in math and reading proficiency scores between Fields road and the Wootton cluster elementary schools.

Why do you think this is? I will tell you why-parent engagement. Many of the lower performing elementary schools have parents that are working multiple jobs, The kids are left alone sometimes for extended periods. Academics takes a back seat. Not saying they have full control over this but this is the reality.

I love how some of you think these kids will magically become high performers when moved to Crown. I’m sure they already had great teachers who tried to push them to achieve. Unless you have a ton of internal motivation that simply doesn’t work.

Exactly this. Why should families that worked hard for a home in the Wootton cluster have to send their kids to school with classmates who are less motivated, less engaged, and less successful?

If you are both real people posting in good faith about what you think about kids that attend Fields Road, I can tell you it sounds like your kids and your family as a whole will benefit a lot from being part of a community with kids from Fields Road. You will hopefully become less ignorant and more resilient. To those of us whose kids attend racially and socioeconomically diverse schools, it sounds like you are suffering greatly from disordered thinking, and I really hope you get better.

“disordered thinking” So you think the statistics about math and reading proficiency are made up?

You are saying that there are minimum qualifications to go to school at Wootton with high-achieving students, so that should be across the board and regardless of where kids live, they should be shut out without minimum GPA's, high level courses, and at least 1400 SAT (so 90%). There are kids at Wootton who are struggling - academically, homelife, and emotionally - look at some of the stuff that has happened there. Good families are subjective. You can have your basic needs met by money, but not emotionally or in other ways. Plenty of kids with mental health and other issues there, just like in all schools. Looking down on a parent who makes less than you and say their kids cannot go to school with yours, speaks volumes of your character. How much do you make? So, what if families who make more than you deem your salary not enough and want your kids out?

You are making this too emotional. It’s normal for people to want their kids to go to school with high achieving students. And I think we all want our kids to go to school with kids that are at least doing the bare minimum-being able to score proficiently on reading and math tests. These kids aren’t even meeting state benchmarks. We are not talking about a small gap in performance. We are talking about a huge gap. And you think it’s not going to make any difference? Although the curriculum is the “same” at every MCPS school-the reality of that is very different from school to school. Have you ever spoken to a teacher at a lower performing school? There is a huge difference in what is actually being covered when you have kids in the class that are so far behind. If there was a 5-10% difference this probably wouldn’t even be noticeable. But the kind of difference we are seeing here? Come on. When kids don’t have college/trade school etc… in their future they stop caring about school. Then they either drop out or barely pass-both of which have a negative effect on a school.

Go ask Churchill millionnaires about how much having Scotland in their district affects their childrens' learning.

Maybe Churchill will be a kinder school and be willing to accept all the Wootton underperformers. Really, anyone will less than 3.0, really 3.5 should go. That will really boost scores.