Why is redshirting so rare if it's so advantageous?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If what that 6 year old “ earned” was accomplished by outperforming the 5 year old on tasks then no, I argue that they didn’t earn anything. It was an unfair competition.

So...anyone with a fall birthday is just SOL? One of my kids was born September 4th. Not redshirted, but turns 6 the first few days of K. There are kids in his class that are almost a whole year younger than him. So he is "competing" against 5 year olds. By virtue of when his parents had sex, I guess he'll just never earn anything. Sorry, junior.

ha! My kid has an August 8th birthday. He turned six a month before starting K and is always a good 12-13 months older than the youngest in the class. This is NOT because he was redshirted, it is because when he started K we lived in a state with an August 1st cutoff so legally he had to start K at age 6. We moved to Maryland (September 1st cutoff) the summer before he started 3rd. He's in middle school now- great student, great musician, decent athlete. Gonna have to go break the news to him that being proud of his accomplishments is so immature. Anything that he's "accomplished" isn't actually an accomplishment- just unfair competition. I will explain to him that while he may think he is working hard for his great grades, saxophone performance, and skills on the tennis court, but he cannot be happy about any of this because he can only be happy about the things he has earned not gotten. And because many of the kids he's "competed" against for grades, music honors, and tennis matches are up to 13 months younger than him, he's not earned anything. Any tips on how to have this conversation and kid my kid to realize he's excelling not because he's smart or working hard but because he's older would be appreciated - thanks!!

Just do the opposite of what DCUMs socially stunted anti-redshirters recommend and you should be good to go.

[Anonymous]

People who can’t afford our counties overpriced childcare don’t have a choice of when to start their kids school. They need to work enough hours to pay their bills and buy essentials.

[Anonymous]

When in doubt, redshirt, if it's reasonable. Give the gift of time. Trust me, teachers have zero time to grade kids by age. No one gets bonus points for being 'the youngest." There are no moral victories here, and that suburban mom who sneers about it will soon move in to other things. So yes, go ahead, just redshirt,

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When in doubt, redshirt, if it's reasonable. Give the gift of time. Trust me, teachers have zero time to grade kids by age. No one gets bonus points for being 'the youngest." There are no moral victories here, and that suburban mom who sneers about it will soon move in to other things. So yes, go ahead, just redshirt,

This is about internal victory, not public victory. It's all about being able to live with yourself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If he was British he has the best odds of getting into Oxford university, just due to his age relative to the competition. SOL is the opposite of his position. The Summer borns are SOL.

That's true. So if, for some weird reason, he doesn't get into a good university, it'll be a lot more embarrassing him than if someone on the young end doesn't get into a good university. He'll have to spend the rest of his life either living with the shame of being lazy or the embarrassment of being stupid, even if he doesn't get an external punishment for it.

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Parents will and should prioritise their own children above anything else.

Our politicians and policy makers, however, regard the education as a means to maximise human capital . They want the country to produce Nobel prize winners, successful companies, sport stars etc.

It’s logical, therefore, to have a selection process of our youth to find the truly best at any skill. So if in a kindergarten class all the teachers praise goes to the 6 year old when the 4 year old who might be superior but, of course, less mature so doesn't get noticed then the system has failed. You are rewarding the oldest not the best.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When in doubt, redshirt, if it's reasonable. Give the gift of time. Trust me, teachers have zero time to grade kids by age. No one gets bonus points for being 'the youngest." There are no moral victories here, and that suburban mom who sneers about it will soon move in to other things. So yes, go ahead, just redshirt,

This is about internal victory, not public victory. It's all about being able to live with yourself.

If someone can't live with themselves because their kid started kindergarten at 6 years and 6 days old rather than 5 years and 6 days old...sounds like a disorder.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When in doubt, redshirt, if it's reasonable. Give the gift of time. Trust me, teachers have zero time to grade kids by age. No one gets bonus points for being 'the youngest." There are no moral victories here, and that suburban mom who sneers about it will soon move in to other things. So yes, go ahead, just redshirt,

This is about internal victory, not public victory. It's all about being able to live with yourself.

The vast majority of people can live with themselves just fine, regardless of what you think. You're projecting your own insecurities, lack of self-esteem, and failures on to other people to avoid taking any responsibility for your own choices. Where do you come up with this stuff? You realize this crisis of being "unable to live with oneself" exists only in your stunted mind, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If he was British he has the best odds of getting into Oxford university, just due to his age relative to the competition. SOL is the opposite of his position. The Summer borns are SOL.

That's true. So if, for some weird reason, he doesn't get into a good university, it'll be a lot more embarrassing him than if someone on the young end doesn't get into a good university. He'll have to spend the rest of his life either living with the shame of being lazy or the embarrassment of being stupid, even if he doesn't get an external punishment for it.

"Weird" reason? It's like you don't know that people's destiny is not determined by their day of birth. A lot of other factors come into play. Can you cite a single example of a person living their life in the way you describe? Who has the stain of not getting into a top university even when they were at the older end of the spectrum and is now living in a world of shame and embarrassment? Besides you, obviously.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Parents will and should prioritise their own children above anything else.

Our politicians and policy makers, however, regard the education as a means to maximise human capital . They want the country to produce Nobel prize winners, successful companies, sport stars etc.

It’s logical, therefore, to have a selection process of our youth to find the truly best at any skill. So if in a kindergarten class all the teachers praise goes to the 6 year old when the 4 year old who might be superior but, of course, less mature so doesn't get noticed then the system has failed. You are rewarding the oldest not the best.

Why are you so weird.

[Anonymous]

Do you think Malcolm Gladwell is weird?

He makes the connection between talent selection and relative age affect.

https://youtu.be/EcMKLwVlpJk

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do you think Malcolm Gladwell is weird?

He makes the connection between talent selection and relative age affect.

https://youtu.be/EcMKLwVlpJk

You do not understand anything.

[Anonymous]

I understand perfectly. White UMC people want to maintain the systemic inequality that unfairly advantages their children and resorts to gaslighting and suppressing of extensive research to do so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do you think Malcolm Gladwell is weird?

He makes the connection between talent selection and relative age affect.

https://youtu.be/EcMKLwVlpJk

.....what does this have to do with anything

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I understand perfectly. White UMC people want to maintain the systemic inequality that unfairly advantages their children and resorts to gaslighting and suppressing of extensive research to do so.

Switching gears? It's not about earning things to avoid feeling inadequate it's about racism now. About something so rarely done and questionably advantageous.