[Bethesda cyclist] Do you know this man?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder if he heard about others being falsely accused on social media. Did he go straight to the police and confess so that those being wrongly identified could have their names cleared?

Nope he was going to "church" when he got pulled over. Then skipped church, went straight to his lawyer.

PP here and that's the part the bothers me the most. If he knew others were being accused and didn't immediately turn himself in at that point then his subsequent apology is worthless. Of course I don't know what he knew. And no he's not going to jail for thirty years nor should he.

I disagree. There is nothing wrong with talking to a lawyer before turning yourself in. You would be foolish not to. Honestly, I don’t see anything wrong with not turning yourself in period. There’s no obligation to do that and often that would be a very bad move.

As for going to the priest, you could just as easily be going there to seek penance and guidance for dealing with his problems as many more nefarious motive.

You know this is the type of guy who goes to church every Sunday, then wreaks havoc in his own neighborhood.

He does not seem very smart, but probably prides himself on knowing all.

Actually, I wonder if his wife is relieved (as his neighbors undoubtedly are) that someone finally called him on his antics.

[Anonymous]

If that was one of my kids. Hell no!

The way he went after that little girl and rammed the teen to ground with his bike. His ridiculous fat Lance Armstrong suited up body.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder if he heard about others being falsely accused on social media. Did he go straight to the police and confess so that those being wrongly identified could have their names cleared?

HA! He was just glad the negative focus was on someone else. I am telling you, people like this care deeply about their public image, so much so that they are willing to try to taint others' - as in this case.Someone like this does not care one iota who gets thrown under the bus, as long as it is not him.

Of course he was monitoring it and of course he knew others were being accused. If he’s been repeatedly aggressive towards others, then this latest “apology” and “church” nonsense is all bs PR.

Well yeah, he is desperate, so he has to resort to a favorable narrative by his attorney - mostly because he's got nothing.

Those cops did good. I can only imagine the false reports they have gotten from him over the years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If that was one of my kids. Hell no!

The way he went after that little girl and rammed the teen to ground with his bike. His ridiculous fat Lance Armstrong suited up body.

+1

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder if he heard about others being falsely accused on social media. Did he go straight to the police and confess so that those being wrongly identified could have their names cleared?

HA! He was just glad the negative focus was on someone else. I am telling you, people like this care deeply about their public image, so much so that they are willing to try to taint others' - as in this case.Someone like this does not care one iota who gets thrown under the bus, as long as it is not him.

To add, this is why he stirs the pot - he wants the attention off of him and the crap that he pulls.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If that was one of my kids. Hell no!

The way he went after that little girl and rammed the teen to ground with his bike. His ridiculous fat Lance Armstrong suited up body.

+1

Bike Tyson. What a garbage person.

[Anonymous]

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DP, it absolutely belongs here. The speedy mcspeedersons on trails are menaces. And while most likely won't get violent, they're still aggressive jerks. And the underling behavior of those guys isn't different than this guy.

So first, you're conflating the entire category of people who ride bikes with the subgroup of middle-aged men in Lycra who ride bikes too damn fast on trails.

And second, yes, the behavior of middle-aged men in Lycra who ride bikes too damn fast on trails actually is different from the behavior of a sixty-year-old man in Lycra who assaults college kids with his bike for putting up BLM signs.

The anger/aggressiveness is in the same vein.

I don't think that the anger/aggressiveness of affluent middle-aged white men is bicycle-specific.

It's not just middle-aged white men. Don't be a freaking racist.

There are a lot of white men who are frustrated and angered by the erosion of their privilege at the top of the food chain. Instead of getting preferential treatment, they are seeing women and minorities getting opportunities and equal treatment in many cases and instead of recognizing that others are being treated equal, they feel that they are being discriminated against because they are no longer getting opportunities that in the past would have been theirs by default by virtue of being in the privileged class.

This loss of preferential treatment is causing a burning desire to return to "their rightful place" and to what they feel they are entitled to. And the current administration is only fanning the flames of that burn. Hence why white supremacists and white nationalists who had been lurking in the shadows for generations are suddenly coming out in droves supporting activism like Charlottesville and other white rallies. Where there had been a lot of progress and headway in fighting racist violence, the current administration is validating such violence.

While many of the really violent actions are young white nationalists, there are many older middle-aged white men who are feeling the frustration of losing their white preferential treatment and they are acting out like the cyclist racist. There are many, many such men and whereas before they may have swallowed their bile, the current administration is giving validation to those feelings and encouraging these men to vent their frustrations whereas before they were hiding them. It's all sickening.

[Anonymous]

According to the Maryland judiciary case search, he was charged with three counts of second degree assault. Can you get jail time for that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:According to the Maryland judiciary case search, he was charged with three counts of second degree assault. Can you get jail time for that?

In theory, yes, he could get 10 years for each count, running consecutively. In practice he will see nowhere near that, if he sees any at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder if he heard about others being falsely accused on social media. Did he go straight to the police and confess so that those being wrongly identified could have their names cleared?

Nope he was going to "church" when he got pulled over. Then skipped church, went straight to his lawyer.

PP here and that's the part the bothers me the most. If he knew others were being accused and didn't immediately turn himself in at that point then his subsequent apology is worthless. Of course I don't know what he knew. And no he's not going to jail for thirty years nor should he.

I disagree. There is nothing wrong with talking to a lawyer before turning yourself in. You would be foolish not to. Honestly, I don’t see anything wrong with not turning yourself in period. There’s no obligation to do that and often that would be a very bad move.

As for going to the priest, you could just as easily be going there to seek penance and guidance for dealing with his problems as many more nefarious motive.

You basically just described the thief who isn't sorry he stole just sorry he got caught.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder if he heard about others being falsely accused on social media. Did he go straight to the police and confess so that those being wrongly identified could have their names cleared?

Nope he was going to "church" when he got pulled over. Then skipped church, went straight to his lawyer.

PP here and that's the part the bothers me the most. If he knew others were being accused and didn't immediately turn himself in at that point then his subsequent apology is worthless. Of course I don't know what he knew. And no he's not going to jail for thirty years nor should he.

I disagree. There is nothing wrong with talking to a lawyer before turning yourself in. You would be foolish not to. Honestly, I don’t see anything wrong with not turning yourself in period. There’s no obligation to do that and often that would be a very bad move.

As for going to the priest, you could just as easily be going there to seek penance and guidance for dealing with his problems as many more nefarious motive.

You basically just described the thief who isn't sorry he stole just sorry he got caught.

I just described someone who is smart enough to consult with a lawyer; that has nothing to do with remorse one way or another.

As for the priest, why would someone seeking spiritual guidance/forgiveness be a sign of lack of remorse? That makes no sense.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

DP, it absolutely belongs here. The speedy mcspeedersons on trails are menaces. And while most likely won't get violent, they're still aggressive jerks. And the underling behavior of those guys isn't different than this guy.

So first, you're conflating the entire category of people who ride bikes with the subgroup of middle-aged men in Lycra who ride bikes too damn fast on trails.

And second, yes, the behavior of middle-aged men in Lycra who ride bikes too damn fast on trails actually is different from the behavior of a sixty-year-old man in Lycra who assaults college kids with his bike for putting up BLM signs.

The anger/aggressiveness is in the same vein.

I don't think that the anger/aggressiveness of affluent middle-aged white men is bicycle-specific.

It's not just middle-aged white men. Don't be a freaking racist.

There are a lot of white men who are frustrated and angered by the erosion of their privilege at the top of the food chain. Instead of getting preferential treatment, they are seeing women and minorities getting opportunities and equal treatment in many cases and instead of recognizing that others are being treated equal, they feel that they are being discriminated against because they are no longer getting opportunities that in the past would have been theirs by default by virtue of being in the privileged class.

This loss of preferential treatment is causing a burning desire to return to "their rightful place" and to what they feel they are entitled to. And the current administration is only fanning the flames of that burn. Hence why white supremacists and white nationalists who had been lurking in the shadows for generations are suddenly coming out in droves supporting activism like Charlottesville and other white rallies. Where there had been a lot of progress and headway in fighting racist violence, the current administration is validating such violence.

While many of the really violent actions are young white nationalists, there are many older middle-aged white men who are feeling the frustration of losing their white preferential treatment and they are acting out like the cyclist racist. There are many, many such men and whereas before they may have swallowed their bile, the current administration is giving validation to those feelings and encouraging these men to vent their frustrations whereas before they were hiding them. It's all sickening.

+1

This is the most accurate theory I have read. I don't know if this guy has any hope of decreasing his anger, looking at him. This guy clearly thought he was perfectly justified, and is not accustomed to be being called out/shut down. These kids are my heroes. He deserves to be taken down a few pegs with a little jail time, for sure - his alternate reality clearly is not working for him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder if he heard about others being falsely accused on social media. Did he go straight to the police and confess so that those being wrongly identified could have their names cleared?

Nope he was going to "church" when he got pulled over. Then skipped church, went straight to his lawyer.

PP here and that's the part the bothers me the most. If he knew others were being accused and didn't immediately turn himself in at that point then his subsequent apology is worthless. Of course I don't know what he knew. And no he's not going to jail for thirty years nor should he.

I disagree. There is nothing wrong with talking to a lawyer before turning yourself in. You would be foolish not to. Honestly, I don’t see anything wrong with not turning yourself in period. There’s no obligation to do that and often that would be a very bad move.

As for going to the priest, you could just as easily be going there to seek penance and guidance for dealing with his problems as many more nefarious motive.

You basically just described the thief who isn't sorry he stole just sorry he got caught.

I just described someone who is smart enough to consult with a lawyer; that has nothing to do with remorse one way or another.

As for the priest, why would someone seeking spiritual guidance/forgiveness be a sign of lack of remorse? That makes no sense.

He didn't really have a choice but to consult with a lawyer. Hope he is paying through the nose, frankly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is so indicative of how there was a time in this country where we tried and executed witches.

The mob mentality runs high here. And we consider ourselves enlightened liberals.

Ask yourself why this hits home for you.

I doesn't hit home. Even I can recognize that this guy has not been charged or tried for anything yet. The people on this board behind their social media muscles would try and burn him (Yes I realize no witches were burned) and they would do it under the cover of 'woke' good tidings. I just think that if we cannot step back and enjoy the irony here, we are deluding ourselves.

I am allowed to think that he might not be a great person and that this crime might not rise to the level of imprisonment.

Anyway, enjoy watching the witch trial.

I agree that the mob mentality is scary.

How many of us were ready to get torches and chase the first guy who was mistakenly accused out of town?

I can't imagine what his life was like for those days until the real person was found. The video elicited such a visceral reaction because the victims were so small and powerless. It makes what he did worse and our reactions stronger. We all need to remember to cool down and back off. I do worry that someone innocent is going to be injured. I'm not going to laugh at this like pp, but we should all take a minute to think about what happened here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

DP, it absolutely belongs here. The speedy mcspeedersons on trails are menaces. And while most likely won't get violent, they're still aggressive jerks. And the underling behavior of those guys isn't different than this guy.

So first, you're conflating the entire category of people who ride bikes with the subgroup of middle-aged men in Lycra who ride bikes too damn fast on trails.

And second, yes, the behavior of middle-aged men in Lycra who ride bikes too damn fast on trails actually is different from the behavior of a sixty-year-old man in Lycra who assaults college kids with his bike for putting up BLM signs.

The anger/aggressiveness is in the same vein.

I don't think that the anger/aggressiveness of affluent middle-aged white men is bicycle-specific.

It's not just middle-aged white men. Don't be a freaking racist.

There are a lot of white men who are frustrated and angered by the erosion of their privilege at the top of the food chain. Instead of getting preferential treatment, they are seeing women and minorities getting opportunities and equal treatment in many cases and instead of recognizing that others are being treated equal, they feel that they are being discriminated against because they are no longer getting opportunities that in the past would have been theirs by default by virtue of being in the privileged class.

This loss of preferential treatment is causing a burning desire to return to "their rightful place" and to what they feel they are entitled to. And the current administration is only fanning the flames of that burn. Hence why white supremacists and white nationalists who had been lurking in the shadows for generations are suddenly coming out in droves supporting activism like Charlottesville and other white rallies. Where there had been a lot of progress and headway in fighting racist violence, the current administration is validating such violence.

While many of the really violent actions are young white nationalists, there are many older middle-aged white men who are feeling the frustration of losing their white preferential treatment and they are acting out like the cyclist racist. There are many, many such men and whereas before they may have swallowed their bile, the current administration is giving validation to those feelings and encouraging these men to vent their frustrations whereas before they were hiding them. It's all sickening.

I think you're on to something here however we need to figure out a way to re-educate without devaluing yet another class or gender. I have young boys and girls in my family and love all of them equally.