This is a blue state bug (for now at least)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Healthcare systems in Tennessee, Mississippi, Alabama, Texas and Florida are on the verge of collapse.

I guarantee one thing. The healthcare systems will not collapse if demand exceeds capacity for care.

It will ration care, which is something that does happen.

ie, death panels

Yes. Ironically conservatives are making what they feared most happen in red states. It's so sad and so predictable.

[Anonymous]

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Wonder how long they knew and still left them up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Healthcare systems in Tennessee, Mississippi, Alabama, Texas and Florida are on the verge of collapse.

This is so sad and preventable.

They’ve been like that for decades to be fair. Middle America was warned that closing hospitals and de-prioritizing healthcare left and right would bite them in the butt. They just thought it didn’t matter.

This is the result of Clinton and being successfully lobbied by the American medical association to limit the number of spaces in US medical schools back in the '90s. The AMA was afraid of a glut of physicians which would keep salaries low in their opinion. Clinton's bad decision to go with their recommendation is now in full effect.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Healthcare systems in Tennessee, Mississippi, Alabama, Texas and Florida are on the verge of collapse.

This is so sad and preventable.

They’ve been like that for decades to be fair. Middle America was warned that closing hospitals and de-prioritizing healthcare left and right would bite them in the butt. They just thought it didn’t matter.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Healthcare systems in Tennessee, Mississippi, Alabama, Texas and Florida are on the verge of collapse.

This is so sad and preventable.

They’ve been like that for decades to be fair. Middle America was warned that closing hospitals and de-prioritizing healthcare left and right would bite them in the butt. They just thought it didn’t matter.

Under the guise of mismanagement by Cuomo and Democratic mayor's, over 20 hospitals, mostly in my BIPOC low-income communities, have been shut in New York city. This tragedy of decisions made by the Democrats to remove medical services in Black Latino and low-income communities came to light in the early stages of Andrew Cuomo's covid mismanagement

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Healthcare systems in Tennessee, Mississippi, Alabama, Texas and Florida are on the verge of collapse.

This is so sad and preventable.

They’ve been like that for decades to be fair. Middle America was warned that closing hospitals and de-prioritizing healthcare left and right would bite them in the butt. They just thought it didn’t matter.

This is the result of Clinton and being successfully lobbied by the American medical association to limit the number of spaces in US medical schools back in the '90s. The AMA was afraid of a glut of physicians which would keep salaries low in their opinion. Clinton's bad decision to go with their recommendation is now in full effect.

Q: Will America change anything in response to an obvious catastrophe?

A: No.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Healthcare systems in Tennessee, Mississippi, Alabama, Texas and Florida are on the verge of collapse.

This is so sad and preventable.

They’ve been like that for decades to be fair. Middle America was warned that closing hospitals and de-prioritizing healthcare left and right would bite them in the butt. They just thought it didn’t matter.

This is the result of Clinton and being successfully lobbied by the American medical association to limit the number of spaces in US medical schools back in the '90s. The AMA was afraid of a glut of physicians which would keep salaries low in their opinion. Clinton's bad decision to go with their recommendation is now in full effect.

You know, it could also be that Republicans decided to politicize a pandemic and our response to it, despite knowing that the healthcare infrastructure in their states were one crisis away from complete disaster. Can’t blame Bill and Hillary for the hardheaded refusal of today’s Republicans to wear a damn mask. No, that stupid is all their own. Time to take some personal responsibility for the choices they’ve made and continue to make.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Healthcare systems in Tennessee, Mississippi, Alabama, Texas and Florida are on the verge of collapse.

This is so sad and preventable.

They’ve been like that for decades to be fair. Middle America was warned that closing hospitals and de-prioritizing healthcare left and right would bite them in the butt. They just thought it didn’t matter.

This is the result of Clinton and being successfully lobbied by the American medical association to limit the number of spaces in US medical schools back in the '90s. The AMA was afraid of a glut of physicians which would keep salaries low in their opinion. Clinton's bad decision to go with their recommendation is now in full effect.

never heard of this. Source?

that's ... interesting given how HRC was pushing for ACA-like changes back in the 90s. They would've realized that more people with insurance = more people needing to see doctors. = more doctors needed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Healthcare systems in Tennessee, Mississippi, Alabama, Texas and Florida are on the verge of collapse.

This is so sad and preventable.

They’ve been like that for decades to be fair. Middle America was warned that closing hospitals and de-prioritizing healthcare left and right would bite them in the butt. They just thought it didn’t matter.

This is the result of Clinton and being successfully lobbied by the American medical association to limit the number of spaces in US medical schools back in the '90s. The AMA was afraid of a glut of physicians which would keep salaries low in their opinion. Clinton's bad decision to go with their recommendation is now in full effect.

never heard of this. Source?

that's ... interesting given how HRC was pushing for ACA-like changes back in the 90s. They would've realized that more people with insurance = more people needing to see doctors. = more doctors needed.

The demographics alone - the massive cohort of aging Baby Boomers - should indicate that we would need A LOT more doctors and nurses moving forward.

I've always heard lots of rumblings that the AMA works a lot behind the scenes to prevent the opening of new medical schools and creation of more residency spots. In fact, something like 2000 medical school graduates each year do not get a spot in residency and thus can't complete their medical training. On top of that, they owe hundreds of thousands in student loans. It's insane.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Healthcare systems in Tennessee, Mississippi, Alabama, Texas and Florida are on the verge of collapse.

This is so sad and preventable.

They’ve been like that for decades to be fair. Middle America was warned that closing hospitals and de-prioritizing healthcare left and right would bite them in the butt. They just thought it didn’t matter.

This is the result of Clinton and being successfully lobbied by the American medical association to limit the number of spaces in US medical schools back in the '90s. The AMA was afraid of a glut of physicians which would keep salaries low in their opinion. Clinton's bad decision to go with their recommendation is now in full effect.

never heard of this. Source?

that's ... interesting given how HRC was pushing for ACA-like changes back in the 90s. They would've realized that more people with insurance = more people needing to see doctors. = more doctors needed.

It’s not true.

Clinton wanted more generalist doctors vs specialists because it was largely general doctors that medical schools weren’t graduating enough of.
https://www.nytimes.com/1993/09/15/us/clinton-seeks-to-regulate-medical-specialties.html

And it’s not Clinton’s fault that hospitals have basically turned into local monopolies and have acted like the businesses that they are and have closed underperforming (money-wise, that is) hospitals and clinics. If we’re blaming any party here, it’s likely to be the GOP. Anything is okay if you’re making a couple million bucks, even when it means that rural people have to drive 200 miles for regular checkups and emergency care.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Healthcare systems in Tennessee, Mississippi, Alabama, Texas and Florida are on the verge of collapse.

This is so sad and preventable.

They’ve been like that for decades to be fair. Middle America was warned that closing hospitals and de-prioritizing healthcare left and right would bite them in the butt. They just thought it didn’t matter.

This is the result of Clinton and being successfully lobbied by the American medical association to limit the number of spaces in US medical schools back in the '90s. The AMA was afraid of a glut of physicians which would keep salaries low in their opinion. Clinton's bad decision to go with their recommendation is now in full effect.

never heard of this. Source?

that's ... interesting given how HRC was pushing for ACA-like changes back in the 90s. They would've realized that more people with insurance = more people needing to see doctors. = more doctors needed.

The demographics alone - the massive cohort of aging Baby Boomers - should indicate that we would need A LOT more doctors and nurses moving forward.

I've always heard lots of rumblings that the AMA works a lot behind the scenes to prevent the opening of new medical schools and creation of more residency spots. In fact, something like 2000 medical school graduates each year do not get a spot in residency and thus can't complete their medical training. On top of that, they owe hundreds of thousands in student loans. It's insane.

Which is why it was bad news when Trump derided importing doctors and med students from other countries.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Healthcare systems in Tennessee, Mississippi, Alabama, Texas and Florida are on the verge of collapse.

This is so sad and preventable.

They’ve been like that for decades to be fair. Middle America was warned that closing hospitals and de-prioritizing healthcare left and right would bite them in the butt. They just thought it didn’t matter.

This is the result of Clinton and being successfully lobbied by the American medical association to limit the number of spaces in US medical schools back in the '90s. The AMA was afraid of a glut of physicians which would keep salaries low in their opinion. Clinton's bad decision to go with their recommendation is now in full effect.

never heard of this. Source?

that's ... interesting given how HRC was pushing for ACA-like changes back in the 90s. They would've realized that more people with insurance = more people needing to see doctors. = more doctors needed.

The demographics alone - the massive cohort of aging Baby Boomers - should indicate that we would need A LOT more doctors and nurses moving forward.

I've always heard lots of rumblings that the AMA works a lot behind the scenes to prevent the opening of new medical schools and creation of more residency spots. In fact, something like 2000 medical school graduates each year do not get a spot in residency and thus can't complete their medical training. On top of that, they owe hundreds of thousands in student loans. It's insane.

Which is why it was bad news when Trump derided importing doctors and med students from other countries.

Especially considering foreign doctors are more willing to serve rural areas.

[Anonymous]

Hey it's OP again. Let's give NY somewhat of a pass for happening to catch it first. So, taking death tolls from June 1, 2020, until today, we have:

Top 10:
Arizona: 241.22/100k dead
Mississippi: 236.11/100k dead
Alabama: 227.08/100k dead
South Dakota: 224.83/100k dead
Arkansas: 209.89/100k dead
New Mexico: 195.06/100k dead
North Dakota: 194.73/100k dead
Rhode Island: 191.25/100k dead
Louisiana: 187.75/100k dead
Georgia: 187.66/100k dead

Bottom 10:
Vermont: 33.49
Hawaii: 37.79
Alaska: 52.63
Maine: 60.63
Oregon: 65.96
Washington: 67.80
Utah: 75.23
New Hampshire: 84.58
DC: 96.92
Colorado: 101.39

Or how about their 2021 COVID success? Deaths since 1/1/21:

Top 10:
Alabama: 140.58
Arizona: 129.82
Oklahoma: 129.01
Kentucky: 107.49
Georgia: 103.79
Ohio: 99.68
Mississippi: 98.95
Nevada: 97.85
California: 97.12
Delaware: 93.25

Bottom 10:
HI 18.58
VT 20.51
AK 25.97
NE 32.00
ND 32.81
OR 34.26
WA 35.67
UT 39.18
ME 41.44
CO 41.87

It's redified, but I suspect we already knew that. My #'s are from Worldometer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Healthcare systems in Tennessee, Mississippi, Alabama, Texas and Florida are on the verge of collapse.

This is so sad and preventable.

They’ve been like that for decades to be fair. Middle America was warned that closing hospitals and de-prioritizing healthcare left and right would bite them in the butt. They just thought it didn’t matter.

This is the result of Clinton and being successfully lobbied by the American medical association to limit the number of spaces in US medical schools back in the '90s. The AMA was afraid of a glut of physicians which would keep salaries low in their opinion. Clinton's bad decision to go with their recommendation is now in full effect.

never heard of this. Source?

that's ... interesting given how HRC was pushing for ACA-like changes back in the 90s. They would've realized that more people with insurance = more people needing to see doctors. = more doctors needed.

The demographics alone - the massive cohort of aging Baby Boomers - should indicate that we would need A LOT more doctors and nurses moving forward.

I've always heard lots of rumblings that the AMA works a lot behind the scenes to prevent the opening of new medical schools and creation of more residency spots. In fact, something like 2000 medical school graduates each year do not get a spot in residency and thus can't complete their medical training. On top of that, they owe hundreds of thousands in student loans. It's insane.

Which is why it was bad news when Trump derided importing doctors and med students from other countries.

Especially considering foreign doctors are more willing to serve rural areas.

It's a condition of their visa to get into the U.S.

I know a foreign doctor who lives in DC - has a high end Tesla, owns a fancy condo, clears $400-500K/year. He actually has his practice in rural red southern MD, he commutes about 75 minutes each way. He has to work in that area because it's rural and underserved. But he's making better money there than he would in DC. The reimbursement rates are higher in the rural areas due to the lack of competition.

[Anonymous]

Biden Administration recommendeing 3rd shots within 8 months of 2nd shots as a booster.

I wonder if any of the vaccine hesitant will change their minds on this?