Superintendent's Recommendation for Richard Montgomery ES #5 Boundaries

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It sounds like twinbrook wants to stay together and if the farms rate is over a certain threshold, the school gets additional resources. Am I understanding this correctly? If so, what exactly is that threshold?

+1. No one really bothered to explain what % of FARMS TB needs to stay title1. It seems like TB does not care, we have all these ridiculous bus route options that affect them but we don't get any feedback from their community. The only thing we heard from them is that they want to stay title 1.

It seems like the bussing everywhere option is what the board is going for. 40% FARMS for RP.

If they do this new mark commons and hungerford should be ashamed of themselves.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It sounds like twinbrook wants to stay together and if the farms rate is over a certain threshold, the school gets additional resources. Am I understanding this correctly? If so, what exactly is that threshold?

+1. No one really bothered to explain what % of FARMS TB needs to stay title1. It seems like TB does not care, we have all these ridiculous bus route options that affect them but we don't get any feedback from their community. The only thing we heard from them is that they want to stay title 1.

It seems like the bussing everywhere option is what the board is going for. 40% FARMS for RP.

And 46% FARMS and loss of title 1.

Hope Hungerford is happy now. Pieces of shit civic association ruined really decent options. Is there anyone appreciative of their collaborative witch hunt? The irony is they will now get bussed to RP (instead of walked to a brand new school) and with the Twinbrook families they didn't want being bussed to RP now with a higher FARMS that they were fighting for. If RP loses both RP5 and RP4, it will be an awful school. No new school and the same terrible administration. Serves Hungerford right.

The RP principal is NOT going to be able handle this. Maybe this is what will finally get her out. One silver lining?

[Anonymous]

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Being able to walk to school is important, certainly, but why should it be the most important?

To have one white and elite elementary within a diverse RM cluster.



All parts of RP2 is not even a good walk to RM#5. I live in RP6.

White and elite? The 7% FARM option still left RP more than 50% minority. Damn shame people equate wealth with being white.

Exactly. So ignorant.

[Anonymous]

I am bought house in RP few years ago. I didn't buy in other Potomac schools because they lack socioeconomic diversity.

I don't want to see RP tuning like any other Potomac Elementary schools. I don't support 7% FARMS rate in RP. I am concerned that many of us are not speaking loudly about need to maintain socioeconomic diversity in RP.

Other Potomac Elementary schools can't have socioeconomic diversity even if they want , but RP had it and RP can continue having it.

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RP was pulled into this cluster from Wootton to help RM terrible FARMS rates. We have been rezoned twice since then to keep adding FARMS. So now our reward is the neighborhoods now get pulled and yanked the most, to make sure we have FARMS similar to downtown Rockville or in even one option, the absolute highest in the cluster now?? Sorry. Not apologizing for the 7% FARMS. That is higher than any other local school around us.

I know that a lot of people believe this, but the media reports at the time say otherwise: https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1987/06/05/busing-ruling-saddens-ritchie-park-parents/cc3b67e6-b596-4247-ba3d-b4c076d37de8/?utm_term=.4678027d0651

Ritchie Park went to Richard Montgomery because Richard Montgomery enrollments were down and projected to drop further, while Wootton was over capacity.

Also, this happened in 1987. To repeat, 1987. What were you doing in 1987? In June 1987, I had just finished my sophomore year of college. And my youngest child started middle school this year, so if you have a child in elementary school, you're probably younger than I am.

The point is that RP is not near the typical parts of the RM cluster, especially the FARMS areas. The single family no-FARMS school was added to the RM cluster. They were way off the perimeter and parts are actually Potomac residents. They could have moved Fallsmeade or Maryvale which were closer to RM but they chose RP. It was an attempt to balance. Fine. But now the continued reazoning of our school (this will be the 4th time since we moved to RM) and now this new attempt to move those close/walkable to RP out to Twinbrook and keep a complete walkable area of RP2 not going to RM5 just to increase FARMS over 40% is terrible. It is not community friendly, it is not environmentally friendly, and it feels like a calculated agenda to prove something. Like RP needs to apologize for having surrounding neighborhoods that do not have FARMS and continue this blotchy zoning.

[Anonymous]

Why people want to send poor kids in rich neighborhoods specially when rich neighborhoods is opposing it? If RP doesn't want poor kids then leave them alone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

RP was pulled into this cluster from Wootton to help RM terrible FARMS rates. We have been rezoned twice since then to keep adding FARMS. So now our reward is the neighborhoods now get pulled and yanked the most, to make sure we have FARMS similar to downtown Rockville or in even one option, the absolute highest in the cluster now?? Sorry. Not apologizing for the 7% FARMS. That is higher than any other local school around us.

I know that a lot of people believe this, but the media reports at the time say otherwise: https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1987/06/05/busing-ruling-saddens-ritchie-park-parents/cc3b67e6-b596-4247-ba3d-b4c076d37de8/?utm_term=.4678027d0651

Ritchie Park went to Richard Montgomery because Richard Montgomery enrollments were down and projected to drop further, while Wootton was over capacity.

Also, this happened in 1987. To repeat, 1987. What were you doing in 1987? In June 1987, I had just finished my sophomore year of college. And my youngest child started middle school this year, so if you have a child in elementary school, you're probably younger than I am.

The point is that RP is not near the typical parts of the RM cluster, especially the FARMS areas. The single family no-FARMS school was added to the RM cluster. They were way off the perimeter and parts are actually Potomac residents. They could have moved Fallsmeade or Maryvale which were closer to RM but they chose RP. It was an attempt to balance. Fine. But now the continued reazoning of our school (this will be the 4th time since we moved to RM) and now this new attempt to move those close/walkable to RP out to Twinbrook and keep a complete walkable area of RP2 not going to RM5 just to increase FARMS over 40% is terrible. It is not community friendly, it is not environmentally friendly, and it feels like a calculated agenda to prove something. Like RP needs to apologize for having surrounding neighborhoods that do not have FARMS and continue this blotchy zoning.

Superintendent's Recommendation #3 ( November 13, 2017) puts RP at 24%. In that option , RP doesn't have a rich zone like RP5, but a poor zone like RP2. Right now both zones attend RP. Parts of RP2 is walk able to the new school and parts of RP2 is not walk able to the new school.

Why all of RP is not getting behind this option? I know that some of you want 7% FARMs and want to look similar to other schools near by, but we are in RM cluster with a much higher average FARMs rate than clusters like Churchill.

[Anonymous]

Because the poor kids live 5 minutes away from the "rich neighborhoods" ( RP2 ) Because of some interesting progressive experiment circa 1970s culture wars.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Because the poor kids live 5 minutes away from the "rich neighborhoods" ( RP2 ) Because of some interesting progressive experiment circa 1970s culture wars.

And RP2 is a socioeconomically diverse neighborhood. It is not the ghetto. It just includes a mix of some single family homes and some low income apartments.

[Anonymous]

Why are there low income apartments in the middle of an affluent nwighborhood?

[Anonymous]

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The point is that RP is not near the typical parts of the RM cluster, especially the FARMS areas. The single family no-FARMS school was added to the RM cluster. They were way off the perimeter and parts are actually Potomac residents. They could have moved Fallsmeade or Maryvale which were closer to RM but they chose RP. It was an attempt to balance. Fine. But now the continued reazoning of our school (this will be the 4th time since we moved to RM) and now this new attempt to move those close/walkable to RP out to Twinbrook and keep a complete walkable area of RP2 not going to RM5 just to increase FARMS over 40% is terrible. It is not community friendly, it is not environmentally friendly, and it feels like a calculated agenda to prove something. Like RP needs to apologize for having surrounding neighborhoods that do not have FARMS and continue this blotchy zoning.

Let's stop this typical part argument. RP is within RM cluster and not in Churchill or Whitman. Churchill and Whitman doesn't have many FARMs students, but RM cluster does have lots of FARMs students. Many of those currently attend RP. Why kick them out? Yes, it will bring RP FARMs to 7%, but do you think it's a good idea? Fallsgrove is not even close to RP elementary.

BOE should simply move RP5 to CG or Beall. It will shorten their travel time and then RP can probably show some love for poorer kids who happens to currently attend RP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It sounds like twinbrook wants to stay together and if the farms rate is over a certain threshold, the school gets additional resources. Am I understanding this correctly? If so, what exactly is that threshold?

+1. No one really bothered to explain what % of FARMS TB needs to stay title1. It seems like TB does not care, we have all these ridiculous bus route options that affect them but we don't get any feedback from their community. The only thing we heard from them is that they want to stay title 1.

It seems like the bussing everywhere option is what the board is going for. 40% FARMS for RP.

And 46% FARMS and loss of title 1.

Hope Hungerford is happy now. Pieces of shit civic association ruined really decent options. Is there anyone appreciative of their collaborative witch hunt? The irony is they will now get bussed to RP (instead of walked to a brand new school) and with the Twinbrook families they didn't want being bussed to RP now with a higher FARMS that they were fighting for. If RP loses both RP5 and RP4, it will be an awful school. No new school and the same terrible administration. Serves Hungerford right.

The Hungerford-haters are obvious trolls who are mad RP may not get to ditch the majority lower-income population. Hungerford advocated keeping RP2 in #5. The BoE and Superintendent are the only ones putting forward the crazy-bussing options. ZERO communities have come out in support of them, and I suspect they will not be seriously considered but that's why there's a public hearing on Thursday.

[Anonymous]

Also, it was the Superintendent who rejected Options 1-8.

[Anonymous]

This whole thing where RP people want 7% FARMS is going to be the cause for them to become 40% FARMS. This is as stupid as CG3 believing they shapely stay with CG because they don’t feel like switching.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Superintendent's Recommendation #3 ( November 13, 2017) puts RP at 24%. In that option , RP doesn't have a rich zone like RP5, but a poor zone like RP2. Right now both zones attend RP. Parts of RP2 is walk able to the new school and parts of RP2 is not walk able to the new school.

Why all of RP is not getting behind this option? I know that some of you want 7% FARMs and want to look similar to other schools near by, but we are in RM cluster with a much higher average FARMs rate than clusters like Churchill.

Anonymous wrote:Because the poor kids live 5 minutes away from the "rich neighborhoods" ( RP2 ) Because of some interesting progressive experiment circa 1970s culture wars.

RP will love to take rich kids from Fallsgrove , who take a long bus ride, but not take poor kids who happen to live 5 minutes away?