Why do you dislike law enforcement?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:here's some wikipedia articles for you:

I fixed the quotation for you so others could understand your question.

Wiki is cute. There have to be real world examples of this for you to be this upset about it. I understand how the process works. I also understand that there are ways for suspects to get their property back. The most effective way is to prove the property was not related to criminal activity. That’s easy for innocent people to do.

Oh ok so you didn't actually read the articles. You should try that, and then you would fine that it is extremely hard, nearly impossible, to get your property back. Some cases report that the victims never got their property back because the police already spent it. Which, getting back to the original topic of this thread, is a huge conflict of interest - that law enforcement directly benefits from the property that they seize without due process. If you read the article, you would find a list of real world examples cited there.

Wiki is cute. Just link a story. You’re the expert. I’d like to see a story where an innocent person’s asset was seized and then spent or sold by police unjustifiably. I can wait. There’s no rush.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:here's some wikipedia articles for you:

I fixed the quotation for you so others could understand your question.

Wiki is cute. There have to be real world examples of this for you to be this upset about it. I understand how the process works. I also understand that there are ways for suspects to get their property back. The most effective way is to prove the property was not related to criminal activity. That’s easy for innocent people to do.

Oh ok so you didn't actually read the articles. You should try that, and then you would fine that it is extremely hard, nearly impossible, to get your property back. Some cases report that the victims never got their property back because the police already spent it. Which, getting back to the original topic of this thread, is a huge conflict of interest - that law enforcement directly benefits from the property that they seize without due process. If you read the article, you would find a list of real world examples cited there.

Wiki is cute. Just link a story. You’re the expert. I’d like to see a story where an innocent person’s asset was seized and then spent or sold by police unjustifiably. I can wait. There’s no rush.

Read. The. Article.

"In March 2012, in the middle of the night, without a warrant, New York City police burst into the home of Gerald Bryan, ransacked his belongings, ripped out light fixtures, arrested him, and seized $4,800 of his cash, but after a year, the case against him was dropped.[10] When Bryan tried to get back his money, he was told it was "too late" since the money had already been put into the police pension fund.[10] Victims of forfeiture often find themselves faced with fighting in a "labyrinthine" procedure to get their money back.[10]"

Plenty more examples there. You should also scroll up and read the article on Sealioning. Unless the problem is that you can't read?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:here's some wikipedia articles for you:

I fixed the quotation for you so others could understand your question.

Wiki is cute. There have to be real world examples of this for you to be this upset about it. I understand how the process works. I also understand that there are ways for suspects to get their property back. The most effective way is to prove the property was not related to criminal activity. That’s easy for innocent people to do.

Oh ok so you didn't actually read the articles. You should try that, and then you would fine that it is extremely hard, nearly impossible, to get your property back. Some cases report that the victims never got their property back because the police already spent it. Which, getting back to the original topic of this thread, is a huge conflict of interest - that law enforcement directly benefits from the property that they seize without due process. If you read the article, you would find a list of real world examples cited there.

Police theft is the second largest problem the public faces besides immunity.

Civil asset forfeiture allows law enforcement agencies to seize property, such as cash, vehicles, or real estate, based on the suspicion that the property was involved in criminal activity, even if the owner has not been charged or convicted of a crime. This legal process operates under the principle of in rem jurisdiction, meaning the case is brought against the property itself rather than the individual, treating the property as "guilty" of facilitating a crime.

Over 100-200 Billion dollars have been taken from the public in the last 25 years via this legal doctrine.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
BWAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAA NEVER tell a cop you have a firearm. That's a good way to get shot by them, either on purpose or accidentally.

Most cops are completely inept with firearms.

If you are removed from your car they will find it on you. I recommend you tell them. If they see it in plain view in your car with you in it you better have both hands on the steering wheel.

For sure you have to be very careful around police. They have immunity to kill on site if they feel threatened in the least.

Best to never escalate a situation by telling a cop you have a firearm. If pulled over, be sure it is out of sight.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most citizens are completely inept with firearms.

I fixed this for you.

Police are "citizens" and not under the UCMJ.

YOU are obviously a cop with an attitude problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
BWAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAA NEVER tell a cop you have a firearm. That's a good way to get shot by them, either on purpose or accidentally.

Most cops are completely inept with firearms.

If you are removed from your car they will find it on you. I recommend you tell them. If they see it in plain view in your car with you in it you better have both hands on the steering wheel.

For sure you have to be very careful around police. They have immunity to kill on site if they feel threatened in the least.

Best to never escalate a situation by telling a cop you have a firearm. If pulled over, be sure it is out of sight.

They do not have immunity to kill on sight. Do not spread lies. People who don’t know how to research or fact check tend to believe everything they hear.

This is why people think police kill tend of thousands of unarmed people a year, because people simply throw lies around.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
BWAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAA NEVER tell a cop you have a firearm. That's a good way to get shot by them, either on purpose or accidentally.

Most cops are completely inept with firearms.

If you are removed from your car they will find it on you. I recommend you tell them. If they see it in plain view in your car with you in it you better have both hands on the steering wheel.

For sure you have to be very careful around police. They have immunity to kill on site if they feel threatened in the least.

Best to never escalate a situation by telling a cop you have a firearm. If pulled over, be sure it is out of sight.

They do not have immunity to kill on sight. Do not spread lies. People who don’t know how to research or fact check tend to believe everything they hear.

This is why people think police kill tend of thousands of unarmed people a year, because people simply throw lies around.

Trying to say tens of thousands? No, it's usually just between 1000 to 1400 on average that die from police involved shootings. Around 2000-3000 annually are shot that don't prove fatal.

Moot points though. The most dangerous situation with another human that most people ever experience, outside of the military, is when they are involved in a police Terry stop or arrest attempt.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
BWAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAA NEVER tell a cop you have a firearm. That's a good way to get shot by them, either on purpose or accidentally.

Most cops are completely inept with firearms.

If you are removed from your car they will find it on you. I recommend you tell them. If they see it in plain view in your car with you in it you better have both hands on the steering wheel.

For sure you have to be very careful around police. They have immunity to kill on site if they feel threatened in the least.

Best to never escalate a situation by telling a cop you have a firearm. If pulled over, be sure it is out of sight.

They do not have immunity to kill on sight. Do not spread lies. People who don’t know how to research or fact check tend to believe everything they hear.

This is why people think police kill tend of thousands of unarmed people a year, because people simply throw lies around.

Trying to say tens of thousands? No, it's usually just between 1000 to 1400 on average that die from police involved shootings. Around 2000-3000 annually are shot that don't prove fatal.

Moot points though. The most dangerous situation with another human that most people ever experience, outside of the military, is when they are involved in a police Terry stop or arrest attempt.

And of those 1000 to 1400 who die from police-involved shootings? Only 20-40 each year are unarmed.

That’s 20-40 in a nation of almost 400,000,000.

But studies done between 2019 and now show that public perception is that thousands of unarmed people die each year at the hands of the police. It simply isn’t true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The most dangerous situation with another human that most people ever experience, outside of the military, is when they are involved in a police Terry stop or arrest attempt.

Looney tunes.

There is no truth to this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
BWAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAA NEVER tell a cop you have a firearm. That's a good way to get shot by them, either on purpose or accidentally.

Most cops are completely inept with firearms.

If you are removed from your car they will find it on you. I recommend you tell them. If they see it in plain view in your car with you in it you better have both hands on the steering wheel.

For sure you have to be very careful around police. They have immunity to kill on site if they feel threatened in the least.

Best to never escalate a situation by telling a cop you have a firearm. If pulled over, be sure it is out of sight.

They do not have immunity to kill on sight. Do not spread lies. People who don’t know how to research or fact check tend to believe everything they hear.

This is why people think police kill tend of thousands of unarmed people a year, because people simply throw lies around.

Trying to say tens of thousands? No, it's usually just between 1000 to 1400 on average that die from police involved shootings. Around 2000-3000 annually are shot that don't prove fatal.

Moot points though. The most dangerous situation with another human that most people ever experience, outside of the military, is when they are involved in a police Terry stop or arrest attempt.

And of those 1000 to 1400 who die from police-involved shootings? Only 20-40 each year are unarmed.

That’s 20-40 in a nation of almost 400,000,000.

But studies done between 2019 and now show that public perception is that thousands of unarmed people die each year at the hands of the police. It simply isn’t true.

First of all, that’s well below the truth. Second, most people would think that small number being “unarmed” means “most of them had guns”. That’s totally false. The majority of people killed by the police were not threatening anyone with a firearm.

And the statistic 40/400,000,000 is meaningless. The relevant statistic is how many people who aren’t threatening someone with a gun are shot by a police officer with a gun. The answer is several hundred people every year. And then ask the question: how many of these police officers are then charged with a crime for that? Damn close to 0%.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The relevant statistic is how many people who aren’t threatening someone with a gun are shot by a police officer with a gun. The answer is several hundred people every year. And then ask the question: how many of these police officers are then charged with a crime for that? Damn close to 0%.

The threshold for justified deadly force is reasonable belief that the suspect poses an imminent threat of death or serious bodily harm to themselves or others.

There is nothing that says a suspect must gave a gun.

[Anonymous]

As per @thisisponytoast:

i've seen police beating women.

i've seen police beating Black men

i've seen police beating students.

i've seen police beating the elderly.

I'VE NEVER SEEN THE POLICE BEATING WHITE SUPREMACISTS.

why is that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
As per @thisisponytoast:

i've seen police beating women.

i've seen police beating Black men

i've seen police beating students.

i've seen police beating the elderly.

I'VE NEVER SEEN THE POLICE BEATING WHITE SUPREMACISTS.

why is that?

Ruby Ridge.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
As per @thisisponytoast:

i've seen police beating women.

i've seen police beating Black men

i've seen police beating students.

i've seen police beating the elderly.

I'VE NEVER SEEN THE POLICE BEATING WHITE SUPREMACISTS.

why is that?

A graveyard dead neo-Nazi in Texas.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/police-release-video-of-officer-killing-a-neo-nazi-gunman-at-allen-tx-mall-mass-shooting

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
As per @thisisponytoast:

i've seen police beating women.

i've seen police beating Black men

i've seen police beating students.

i've seen police beating the elderly.

I'VE NEVER SEEN THE POLICE BEATING WHITE SUPREMACISTS.

why is that?

No wonder Democrats struggle to relate to real people.