Why don’t Americans give a f*** about what they eat?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Junk food should be regulated like cigarettes, including the heavily processed supposedly healthy food that is sold in American supermarkets. Selling a rotisserie chicken injected with sugar? Do it under health regulations. Pumping up your bread with extreme additives and corn syrup? Regulated, preferably with a black box. "Yogurt" with more sugar than a milk shake? No sales to kids at all and certainly not in schools. Doing this would save the country billions in healthcare costs and literally save lives. We have tobacco as a model. We know this works.

But all the reactionary junk food apologists in this thread and elsewhere will do the jobs of the agribusiness corporate lobbyists for them, so this will never happen.

Absolutely. And tax the hell out of it.

And I like junk food!

+1. And OP will be the first in line to protest 😂

I’m not OP but I don’t think that was their angle.

[Anonymous]

That’s not true that farmer’s markets, Asian supermarkets provide enough healthy choices. This is not enough.

Go to any regular supermarket. 50%-75% of the food there is processed junk infused with sugar, salt and other chemicals. Most restaurants in US serve food infused with salt, sugar, additives. Kids lunches at schools and college cafeterias food are junk.

A small bottle of Sprite has 64g of sugar. How many kids know this, you think?

They need to tax sugar and refined flour. Cookies should be very expensive. Sodas should be a luxury.

We had great success with cigarettes. We can do this.

Why are you trying to impose your values and choices on everyone else?

You're welcome to buy and consume whatever you'd like. I fail to see what's imposed here.

What's being imposed here are new taxes that reflect your values.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That’s not true that farmer’s markets, Asian supermarkets provide enough healthy choices. This is not enough.

Go to any regular supermarket. 50%-75% of the food there is processed junk infused with sugar, salt and other chemicals. Most restaurants in US serve food infused with salt, sugar, additives. Kids lunches at schools and college cafeterias food are junk.

A small bottle of Sprite has 64g of sugar. How many kids know this, you think?

They need to tax sugar and refined flour. Cookies should be very expensive. Sodas should be a luxury.

We had great success with cigarettes. We can do this.

Why are you trying to impose your values and choices on everyone else?

You're welcome to buy and consume whatever you'd like. I fail to see what's imposed here.

What's being imposed here are new taxes that reflect your values.

Please. Every tax has a value behind it. And this is one you can avoid, should you choose to do so.

Last time I checked, no one forced me to buy cookies or soda. That's entirely on me.

[Anonymous]

Please. Every tax has a value behind it. And this is one you can avoid, should you choose to do so.

Last time I checked, no one forced me to buy cookies or soda. That's entirely on me.

So we are in agreement that you are trying to impose your values on me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That’s not true that farmer’s markets, Asian supermarkets provide enough healthy choices. This is not enough.

Go to any regular supermarket. 50%-75% of the food there is processed junk infused with sugar, salt and other chemicals. Most restaurants in US serve food infused with salt, sugar, additives. Kids lunches at schools and college cafeterias food are junk.

A small bottle of Sprite has 64g of sugar. How many kids know this, you think?

They need to tax sugar and refined flour. Cookies should be very expensive. Sodas should be a luxury.

We had great success with cigarettes. We can do this.

Why are you trying to impose your values and choices on everyone else?

You're welcome to buy and consume whatever you'd like. I fail to see what's imposed here.

What's being imposed here are new taxes that reflect your values.

Please. Every tax has a value behind it. And this is one you can avoid, should you choose to do so.

Last time I checked, no one forced me to buy cookies or soda. That's entirely on me.

Because this crap is cheap, they generously give them to our kids left and right. Supermarket chains like Publix, Kroger, Walmart give each kid free cookies. Teachers reward them with candy. There are cookies, candy and donuts at every school event. If you are a good reader in K or elementary you get rewarded with pizza coupon.

Let’s make it expensive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Please. Every tax has a value behind it. And this is one you can avoid, should you choose to do so.

Last time I checked, no one forced me to buy cookies or soda. That's entirely on me.

So we are in agreement that you are trying to impose your values on me.

Nope, just collect some money to cover cost of population of obese people
American crony capitalism is thriving on privatizing income and socializing losses. Tax on junk would cover at least some of the socialized losses big corporations unloaded on the government

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

That’s not true that farmer’s markets, Asian supermarkets provide enough healthy choices. This is not enough.

Go to any regular supermarket. 50%-75% of the food there is processed junk infused with sugar, salt and other chemicals. Most restaurants in US serve food infused with salt, sugar, additives. Kids lunches at schools and college cafeterias food are junk.

A small bottle of Sprite has 64g of sugar. How many kids know this, you think?

They need to tax sugar and refined flour. Cookies should be very expensive. Sodas should be a luxury.

We had great success with cigarettes. We can do this.

Why are you trying to impose your values and choices on everyone else?

So everyone is healthy and we, as a society, don’t suffer the consequences of obesity and diseases.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

That’s not true that farmer’s markets, Asian supermarkets provide enough healthy choices. This is not enough.

Go to any regular supermarket. 50%-75% of the food there is processed junk infused with sugar, salt and other chemicals. Most restaurants in US serve food infused with salt, sugar, additives. Kids lunches at schools and college cafeterias food are junk.

A small bottle of Sprite has 64g of sugar. How many kids know this, you think?

They need to tax sugar and refined flour. Cookies should be very expensive. Sodas should be a luxury.

We had great success with cigarettes. We can do this.

Why are you trying to impose your values and choices on everyone else?

So everyone is healthy and we, as a society, don’t suffer the consequences of obesity and diseases.

The food Nazis are out in force today. I prefer to make my own decisions on what to eat and not have the government make those decisions for me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

That’s not true that farmer’s markets, Asian supermarkets provide enough healthy choices. This is not enough.

Go to any regular supermarket. 50%-75% of the food there is processed junk infused with sugar, salt and other chemicals. Most restaurants in US serve food infused with salt, sugar, additives. Kids lunches at schools and college cafeterias food are junk.

A small bottle of Sprite has 64g of sugar. How many kids know this, you think?

They need to tax sugar and refined flour. Cookies should be very expensive. Sodas should be a luxury.

We had great success with cigarettes. We can do this.

Why are you trying to impose your values and choices on everyone else?

So everyone is healthy and we, as a society, don’t suffer the consequences of obesity and diseases.

It’s too late. The vast majority of folks in the country who were hospitalized or died of Covid were obese. Instead of protecting the vulnerable - the US shut down the country and banned IPL, sports and gyms. We all suffered the consequences of having a country with 45% of obese adults.
The consequence - more obese people. But nobody talks about it lest one be accused of fat shaming. Which is is not. The reality - a ton of money goes into dealing with health problems resulting from obesity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Please. Every tax has a value behind it. And this is one you can avoid, should you choose to do so.

Last time I checked, no one forced me to buy cookies or soda. That's entirely on me.

So we are in agreement that you are trying to impose your values on me.

No, because you choose what food to buy. Your own values at work!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Please. Every tax has a value behind it. And this is one you can avoid, should you choose to do so.

Last time I checked, no one forced me to buy cookies or soda. That's entirely on me.

So we are in agreement that you are trying to impose your values on me.

No, because you choose what food to buy. Your own values at work!

Nope, you've influence my choices by manipulating prices through your luxury tax.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

That’s not true that farmer’s markets, Asian supermarkets provide enough healthy choices. This is not enough.

Go to any regular supermarket. 50%-75% of the food there is processed junk infused with sugar, salt and other chemicals. Most restaurants in US serve food infused with salt, sugar, additives. Kids lunches at schools and college cafeterias food are junk.

A small bottle of Sprite has 64g of sugar. How many kids know this, you think?

They need to tax sugar and refined flour. Cookies should be very expensive. Sodas should be a luxury.

We had great success with cigarettes. We can do this.

Why are you trying to impose your values and choices on everyone else?

So everyone is healthy and we, as a society, don’t suffer the consequences of obesity and diseases.

The food Nazis are out in force today. I prefer to make my own decisions on what to eat and not have the government make those decisions for me.

Did you protest government banning smoking indoors? Raising cigarette taxes? What happened to your “freedom”?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

That’s not true that farmer’s markets, Asian supermarkets provide enough healthy choices. This is not enough.

Go to any regular supermarket. 50%-75% of the food there is processed junk infused with sugar, salt and other chemicals. Most restaurants in US serve food infused with salt, sugar, additives. Kids lunches at schools and college cafeterias food are junk.

A small bottle of Sprite has 64g of sugar. How many kids know this, you think?

They need to tax sugar and refined flour. Cookies should be very expensive. Sodas should be a luxury.

We had great success with cigarettes. We can do this.

Why are you trying to impose your values and choices on everyone else?

So everyone is healthy and we, as a society, don’t suffer the consequences of obesity and diseases.

It’s too late. The vast majority of folks in the country who were hospitalized or died of Covid were obese. Instead of protecting the vulnerable - the US shut down the country and banned IPL, sports and gyms. We all suffered the consequences of having a country with 45% of obese adults.
The consequence - more obese people. But nobody talks about it lest one be accused of fat shaming. Which is is not. The reality - a ton of money goes into dealing with health problems resulting from obesity.

No, they haven’t died off yet. There are still a lot of them out there.

And yes! Exactly the point a lot of people on this board don’t get is that obese people will result in more obese people and we are not talking about only children. There have been studies done that if you have an overweight friend you are more likely to gain weight.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

That’s not true that farmer’s markets, Asian supermarkets provide enough healthy choices. This is not enough.

Go to any regular supermarket. 50%-75% of the food there is processed junk infused with sugar, salt and other chemicals. Most restaurants in US serve food infused with salt, sugar, additives. Kids lunches at schools and college cafeterias food are junk.

A small bottle of Sprite has 64g of sugar. How many kids know this, you think?

They need to tax sugar and refined flour. Cookies should be very expensive. Sodas should be a luxury.

We had great success with cigarettes. We can do this.

Why are you trying to impose your values and choices on everyone else?

So everyone is healthy and we, as a society, don’t suffer the consequences of obesity and diseases.

The food Nazis are out in force today. I prefer to make my own decisions on what to eat and not have the government make those decisions for me.

Did you protest government banning smoking indoors? Raising cigarette taxes? What happened to your “freedom”?

There's no such thing as secondary sugar.

[Anonymous]

If you think cigarette taxes and regulations were about secondary smoke only, you are wildly uninformed.