APS Boundary tool--anyone get it to work yet?

Anonymous
Rich white folks like pretexts.
Anonymous
Super bone headed that they took the tool off line. It would be great to see this options.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wakefield
option 1
4612, 4614, 4828

option 2
1201, 1202, 1203

option 3
3706,4611,4612, 4691

Yorktown
opt 1
1302, 1303, 3501, 3502,3503

opt 2
1502, 2312, 2313,2314

opt 3
1304, 1410


Are these just the options for year 1, with more planning units to be added? It doesn't seem like these options move enough kids.

Also, did you notice the APS has taken the boundary tool offline, so you can no longer easily see where these units are, how many students these options move, and what the demographics look like. Unbelievable.

I vote for option 2 for Wakefield and option 1 for Yorktown.


You must live in 22205 or 22207. It's easy to sell someone else down the river.

A lot of the Arlington Forest families (ours included) really want to stay at W-L because it's walking distance for some and a safe short bike ride for others. Walk zone is especially critical for high schoolers who have after school activities and probably don't have cars. Wakefield is unwalkable and also there is no safe bike route. Families in AF willingly send kids to Barrett and Kenmore and aren't afraid of diversity, but most of those with kids old enough to be affected now or soon have lived in the neighborhood 10, 12, 15 years and many bought homes on the north side specifically so they could feed into W-L, which has enjoyed a strong reputation for decades. All the talk about "keeping the neighborhood" together is nonsense because it's one neighborhood in name only. Kids on the south side are zoned for Barcroft and Wakefield so the only overlap 3 years (out of 13) at Kenmore. Yes, there is one civic association, but they obviously don't speak for everyone, at least not on this issue.


Just a tip for you. DO NOT USE THIS IDIOMATIC EXPRESSION EVER.

But you just love the diversity.



Yep, their post was all about diversity. Even if it was, so what, some people don't value it like you do. Not sure why that bothers you. Can we get you down for your kids transferring to Wakefield?


It bothers me because you are talking about PEOPLE. Real, human people and it bothers me that you are being so cavalier about the value of other people.

But that's cool. We're not going to be friends or run in the same circles you sociopath.


You didn't answer my question. You've offered no solution on how to help them, excepts send other people's kids in to do your dirty work. Hint, it's more than rubbing elbows in school together. Maybe you van volunteer to help them since you believe they can't help themselves. You're clearly in Camp Whacko, can't reason with that. It ISN'T a 15 Year Old's job to raise someone else's children. The school's can/should only do so much. Stop feeling guilty and foisting this guilt upon others, it's ok, it's not your fault. Just because we disagree, we can't be friends, aww, I'm hurt. Talk about being closed- minded.


I don't think having better socioeconomic diversity at the schools is about the kids so much at all and I have no idea why people say things like "it isn't a 15 year old's job to raise someone else's children." The PTAs in Arlington have different budgets by a factor of 10. That is on the PARENTS. The resources that the teachers and school communities have vary tremendously by zip code, which is ridiculous depending on how small this county is, and there is no reason one school should focus entirely on coat and food drives and another school should have a PTA with an operating budget and a capital projects budget. It just seems crazy to me that the School Board draws these lines that allow this kind of segregation when our county is IN FACT quite diverse. It isn't about the KIDS "teaching" each other something. I find that line of thinking quite bizarre.



Np-

Quit arguing with the above poster. "Neal" loves to come on here and Arlnow and spout this crap. They are an unconvincing ass no matter where they spew their filth. I feel sorry for them.




No, I'm not the poster you think I am. Go ahead, keep making excuses for people's failures. The county spends a tremendous amount of money on Wakefield. So now you want the parents to provide additional resources to the school for the less affluent? Thea's always someone with more than you, I don't worry about that, you shouldn't either. It's up to the students and parents to focus on the priorities. I didn't come from much, but have had some success, but it took hard work, and sacrifice. A lesson some of the posters don't seem to appreciate. Still, none of you have indicated that you'll be sending your kids to Wakefield even if your're zone elsewhere. How about a roll call?
Anonymous
^ thanks Neal!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wakefield
option 1
4612, 4614, 4828

option 2
1201, 1202, 1203

option 3
3706,4611,4612, 4691

Yorktown
opt 1
1302, 1303, 3501, 3502,3503

opt 2
1502, 2312, 2313,2314

opt 3
1304, 1410


Are these just the options for year 1, with more planning units to be added? It doesn't seem like these options move enough kids.

Also, did you notice the APS has taken the boundary tool offline, so you can no longer easily see where these units are, how many students these options move, and what the demographics look like. Unbelievable.

I vote for option 2 for Wakefield and option 1 for Yorktown.


You must live in 22205 or 22207. It's easy to sell someone else down the river.

A lot of the Arlington Forest families (ours included) really want to stay at W-L because it's walking distance for some and a safe short bike ride for others. Walk zone is especially critical for high schoolers who have after school activities and probably don't have cars. Wakefield is unwalkable and also there is no safe bike route. Families in AF willingly send kids to Barrett and Kenmore and aren't afraid of diversity, but most of those with kids old enough to be affected now or soon have lived in the neighborhood 10, 12, 15 years and many bought homes on the north side specifically so they could feed into W-L, which has enjoyed a strong reputation for decades. All the talk about "keeping the neighborhood" together is nonsense because it's one neighborhood in name only. Kids on the south side are zoned for Barcroft and Wakefield so the only overlap 3 years (out of 13) at Kenmore. Yes, there is one civic association, but they obviously don't speak for everyone, at least not on this issue.


Just a tip for you. DO NOT USE THIS IDIOMATIC EXPRESSION EVER.

But you just love the diversity.


I will admit maybe not the best choice of words in this case due to historical antecedents and apologize if anyone was offended. BUT in this case modern day useage is 100% accurate to describe what's happening here.

It's easy for everyone in north north Arlington to look at Arlington Forest and say "oh, they are used to going to school with FARMS kids and they don't live too far away from Wakefield and half their neighborhood goes to Wakefield, and some of those who don't already go to Wakefield probably won't mind going to Wakefield, so why don't we just all agree to send them to Wakefield and then Arlington will balance the schools and we will all feel good about ourselves."

Lots of people talk a good game on diversity but don't back it up. I'm talking SES not racial/ethnic. Most people in this area will hang with anyone as long as they are as educated and wealthy as they are. But when it comes to sending their kids to school with kids who get free lunch and don't score well on standardized tests it's a whole new ballgame. That's worth dropping an extra 300k so you can get into the "right" neighborhood and don't have to send your kid to a "failing" school.


NP here though PP throughout the thread. I'm having a hard time understanding what "side" you're on, and just to note I do feel bad that people are taking "sides" over real kids, yours and others. It is an unfortunate thing that some people are going to come out of this upset and disappointed.

From the South Arlington perspective, I agree that people talk big about diversity but then don't back it up. I don't know many people who are "scared" of wealthy black and Latino kids at this point in this area. Real diversity now really means socioeconomic, and it can be scary because the reality is those kids often need more and have less in terms of resources to succeed. That puts a heavier burden on schools the higher concentration they have of those kids, and over-burdened schools can then begin to underserve all students. This is why some of us who are already in the Wakefield zone are fighting: to avoid exacerbating that effect. We are worried about the entire student body, not just our own kids.

I acknowledge that if I were in your shoes, I would be upset about the walking (and I realize you probably did pay a premium to live in the W-L zone). But, there are freshmen across the county without cars who are outside the walk zone for any school and they make it work. Please keep in mind that someone here has to be disappointed but hopefully it is for the good of all the kids in the county.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wakefield
option 1
4612, 4614, 4828

option 2
1201, 1202, 1203

option 3
3706,4611,4612, 4691

Yorktown
opt 1
1302, 1303, 3501, 3502,3503

opt 2
1502, 2312, 2313,2314

opt 3
1304, 1410


Are these just the options for year 1, with more planning units to be added? It doesn't seem like these options move enough kids.

Also, did you notice the APS has taken the boundary tool offline, so you can no longer easily see where these units are, how many students these options move, and what the demographics look like. Unbelievable.

I vote for option 2 for Wakefield and option 1 for Yorktown.


You must live in 22205 or 22207. It's easy to sell someone else down the river.

A lot of the Arlington Forest families (ours included) really want to stay at W-L because it's walking distance for some and a safe short bike ride for others. Walk zone is especially critical for high schoolers who have after school activities and probably don't have cars. Wakefield is unwalkable and also there is no safe bike route. Families in AF willingly send kids to Barrett and Kenmore and aren't afraid of diversity, but most of those with kids old enough to be affected now or soon have lived in the neighborhood 10, 12, 15 years and many bought homes on the north side specifically so they could feed into W-L, which has enjoyed a strong reputation for decades. All the talk about "keeping the neighborhood" together is nonsense because it's one neighborhood in name only. Kids on the south side are zoned for Barcroft and Wakefield so the only overlap 3 years (out of 13) at Kenmore. Yes, there is one civic association, but they obviously don't speak for everyone, at least not on this issue.


Just a tip for you. DO NOT USE THIS IDIOMATIC EXPRESSION EVER.

But you just love the diversity.


I will admit maybe not the best choice of words in this case due to historical antecedents and apologize if anyone was offended. BUT in this case modern day useage is 100% accurate to describe what's happening here.

It's easy for everyone in north north Arlington to look at Arlington Forest and say "oh, they are used to going to school with FARMS kids and they don't live too far away from Wakefield and half their neighborhood goes to Wakefield, and some of those who don't already go to Wakefield probably won't mind going to Wakefield, so why don't we just all agree to send them to Wakefield and then Arlington will balance the schools and we will all feel good about ourselves."

Lots of people talk a good game on diversity but don't back it up. I'm talking SES not racial/ethnic. Most people in this area will hang with anyone as long as they are as educated and wealthy as they are. But when it comes to sending their kids to school with kids who get free lunch and don't score well on standardized tests it's a whole new ballgame. That's worth dropping an extra 300k so you can get into the "right" neighborhood and don't have to send your kid to a "failing" school.


I don't think there are many people in "north north" Arlington looking to sacrifice AF.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wakefield
option 1
4612, 4614, 4828

option 2
1201, 1202, 1203

option 3
3706,4611,4612, 4691

Yorktown
opt 1
1302, 1303, 3501, 3502,3503

opt 2
1502, 2312, 2313,2314

opt 3
1304, 1410


Are these just the options for year 1, with more planning units to be added? It doesn't seem like these options move enough kids.

Also, did you notice the APS has taken the boundary tool offline, so you can no longer easily see where these units are, how many students these options move, and what the demographics look like. Unbelievable.

I vote for option 2 for Wakefield and option 1 for Yorktown.


You must live in 22205 or 22207. It's easy to sell someone else down the river.

A lot of the Arlington Forest families (ours included) really want to stay at W-L because it's walking distance for some and a safe short bike ride for others. Walk zone is especially critical for high schoolers who have after school activities and probably don't have cars. Wakefield is unwalkable and also there is no safe bike route. Families in AF willingly send kids to Barrett and Kenmore and aren't afraid of diversity, but most of those with kids old enough to be affected now or soon have lived in the neighborhood 10, 12, 15 years and many bought homes on the north side specifically so they could feed into W-L, which has enjoyed a strong reputation for decades. All the talk about "keeping the neighborhood" together is nonsense because it's one neighborhood in name only. Kids on the south side are zoned for Barcroft and Wakefield so the only overlap 3 years (out of 13) at Kenmore. Yes, there is one civic association, but they obviously don't speak for everyone, at least not on this issue.


Just a tip for you. DO NOT USE THIS IDIOMATIC EXPRESSION EVER.

But you just love the diversity.


I will admit maybe not the best choice of words in this case due to historical antecedents and apologize if anyone was offended. BUT in this case modern day useage is 100% accurate to describe what's happening here.

It's easy for everyone in north north Arlington to look at Arlington Forest and say "oh, they are used to going to school with FARMS kids and they don't live too far away from Wakefield and half their neighborhood goes to Wakefield, and some of those who don't already go to Wakefield probably won't mind going to Wakefield, so why don't we just all agree to send them to Wakefield and then Arlington will balance the schools and we will all feel good about ourselves."

Lots of people talk a good game on diversity but don't back it up. I'm talking SES not racial/ethnic. Most people in this area will hang with anyone as long as they are as educated and wealthy as they are. But when it comes to sending their kids to school with kids who get free lunch and don't score well on standardized tests it's a whole new ballgame. That's worth dropping an extra 300k so you can get into the "right" neighborhood and don't have to send your kid to a "failing" school.


NP here though PP throughout the thread. I'm having a hard time understanding what "side" you're on, and just to note I do feel bad that people are taking "sides" over real kids, yours and others. It is an unfortunate thing that some people are going to come out of this upset and disappointed.

From the South Arlington perspective, I agree that people talk big about diversity but then don't back it up. I don't know many people who are "scared" of wealthy black and Latino kids at this point in this area. Real diversity now really means socioeconomic, and it can be scary because the reality is those kids often need more and have less in terms of resources to succeed. That puts a heavier burden on schools the higher concentration they have of those kids, and over-burdened schools can then begin to underserve all students. This is why some of us who are already in the Wakefield zone are fighting: to avoid exacerbating that effect. We are worried about the entire student body, not just our own kids.

I acknowledge that if I were in your shoes, I would be upset about the walking (and I realize you probably did pay a premium to live in the W-L zone). But, there are freshmen across the county without cars who are outside the walk zone for any school and they make it work. Please keep in mind that someone here has to be disappointed but hopefully it is for the good of all the kids in the county.


Yes, this. There is no way to make everyone happy. There is not one single neighborhood that WANTS to be moved. NOT ONE. But somebody has to be. And if it's you, just try to be a bit more gracious about it. Your kids are watching you. What are you modeling for them? This foot stomping and NIMBYism has got to stop. It's so unbecoming. And really unhealthy, undemocratic, and just a terrible example for our kids.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Super bone headed that they took the tool off line. It would be great to see this options.


At the meeting (that I watched online), APS showed a spreadsheet that had information similar to the planning tool. They said that it would be available online soon.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wakefield
option 1
4612, 4614, 4828

option 2
1201, 1202, 1203

option 3
3706,4611,4612, 4691

Yorktown
opt 1
1302, 1303, 3501, 3502,3503

opt 2
1502, 2312, 2313,2314

opt 3
1304, 1410


Are these just the options for year 1, with more planning units to be added? It doesn't seem like these options move enough kids.

Also, did you notice the APS has taken the boundary tool offline, so you can no longer easily see where these units are, how many students these options move, and what the demographics look like. Unbelievable.

I vote for option 2 for Wakefield and option 1 for Yorktown.


You must live in 22205 or 22207. It's easy to sell someone else down the river.

A lot of the Arlington Forest families (ours included) really want to stay at W-L because it's walking distance for some and a safe short bike ride for others. Walk zone is especially critical for high schoolers who have after school activities and probably don't have cars. Wakefield is unwalkable and also there is no safe bike route. Families in AF willingly send kids to Barrett and Kenmore and aren't afraid of diversity, but most of those with kids old enough to be affected now or soon have lived in the neighborhood 10, 12, 15 years and many bought homes on the north side specifically so they could feed into W-L, which has enjoyed a strong reputation for decades. All the talk about "keeping the neighborhood" together is nonsense because it's one neighborhood in name only. Kids on the south side are zoned for Barcroft and Wakefield so the only overlap 3 years (out of 13) at Kenmore. Yes, there is one civic association, but they obviously don't speak for everyone, at least not on this issue.


Just a tip for you. DO NOT USE THIS IDIOMATIC EXPRESSION EVER.

But you just love the diversity.


I will admit maybe not the best choice of words in this case due to historical antecedents and apologize if anyone was offended. BUT in this case modern day useage is 100% accurate to describe what's happening here.

It's easy for everyone in north north Arlington to look at Arlington Forest and say "oh, they are used to going to school with FARMS kids and they don't live too far away from Wakefield and half their neighborhood goes to Wakefield, and some of those who don't already go to Wakefield probably won't mind going to Wakefield, so why don't we just all agree to send them to Wakefield and then Arlington will balance the schools and we will all feel good about ourselves."

Lots of people talk a good game on diversity but don't back it up. I'm talking SES not racial/ethnic. Most people in this area will hang with anyone as long as they are as educated and wealthy as they are. But when it comes to sending their kids to school with kids who get free lunch and don't score well on standardized tests it's a whole new ballgame. That's worth dropping an extra 300k so you can get into the "right" neighborhood and don't have to send your kid to a "failing" school.


NP here though PP throughout the thread. I'm having a hard time understanding what "side" you're on, and just to note I do feel bad that people are taking "sides" over real kids, yours and others. It is an unfortunate thing that some people are going to come out of this upset and disappointed.

From the South Arlington perspective, I agree that people talk big about diversity but then don't back it up. I don't know many people who are "scared" of wealthy black and Latino kids at this point in this area. Real diversity now really means socioeconomic, and it can be scary because the reality is those kids often need more and have less in terms of resources to succeed. That puts a heavier burden on schools the higher concentration they have of those kids, and over-burdened schools can then begin to underserve all students. This is why some of us who are already in the Wakefield zone are fighting: to avoid exacerbating that effect. We are worried about the entire student body, not just our own kids.

I acknowledge that if I were in your shoes, I would be upset about the walking (and I realize you probably did pay a premium to live in the W-L zone). But, there are freshmen across the county without cars who are outside the walk zone for any school and they make it work. Please keep in mind that someone here has to be disappointed but hopefully it is for the good of all the kids in the county.


Yes, this. There is no way to make everyone happy. There is not one single neighborhood that WANTS to be moved. NOT ONE. But somebody has to be. And if it's you, just try to be a bit more gracious about it. Your kids are watching you. What are you modeling for them? This foot stomping and NIMBYism has got to stop. It's so unbecoming. And really unhealthy, undemocratic, and just a terrible example for our kids.



This behavior isn't new. There is at least one poster lurking here that constantly references growing up here and how bad south Arlington has always been. I want to believe that we live in a progressive, enlightened community. I used to think that these divisive attitudes are brought in my transplants. They aren't. Arlington troubling history of segregation lingers.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Soooo... western Pike isn't moving to Wakefield and Arlington Forest is?


That's one of 3 options. Nothing is decided yet. In no option does the Western Pike move to Wakefield.


I'm pretty sure the Arlington Forest PUs were only included to make it seem like APS was trying to be fair. They can't chose all the PUs from south of 50. That might raise some eyebrows. Arlington Forest isn't actually going to move. Please.


I agree. It would be politically very hard for them to go with this option (B) based on the reaction I saw tonight. One of the criticisms the AF parents repeatedly said is that there was no explanation provided for why these scenarios were chosen out of the hundreds of options. But I think it's pretty obvious to everyone that they had to have at least one option including PLs north of Route 50. Just to say that they did.


God knows we wouldn't want them to do anything hard.

The Arlington Forest option moves the fewest number of FARMS kids to Wakefield. That's the responsible choice.



And will you be sending your kids to Wakefield? It would be great if you'd do your part for the greater good of the County. That goes for most of you posters who are so willing to send other people's kids where they don't want them to go.


This is such bullshit. You don't know where I send my kids. And wherever it is, I could volunteer to send them somewhere else tomorrow, and that will do virtually nothing to solve this problem. So please stop with this ridiculous rhetoric.

Some planning units are getting moved, and in those units there will be some people, maybe many people, who will have to send their kids where they don't want them to go. This will be true no matter which planning units are chosen. What about that isn't clear to you?
Anonymous
When will the final decision be announced?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wakefield
option 1
4612, 4614, 4828

option 2
1201, 1202, 1203

option 3
3706,4611,4612, 4691

Yorktown
opt 1
1302, 1303, 3501, 3502,3503

opt 2
1502, 2312, 2313,2314

opt 3
1304, 1410


Are these just the options for year 1, with more planning units to be added? It doesn't seem like these options move enough kids.

Also, did you notice the APS has taken the boundary tool offline, so you can no longer easily see where these units are, how many students these options move, and what the demographics look like. Unbelievable.

I vote for option 2 for Wakefield and option 1 for Yorktown.


You must live in 22205 or 22207. It's easy to sell someone else down the river.

A lot of the Arlington Forest families (ours included) really want to stay at W-L because it's walking distance for some and a safe short bike ride for others. Walk zone is especially critical for high schoolers who have after school activities and probably don't have cars. Wakefield is unwalkable and also there is no safe bike route. Families in AF willingly send kids to Barrett and Kenmore and aren't afraid of diversity, but most of those with kids old enough to be affected now or soon have lived in the neighborhood 10, 12, 15 years and many bought homes on the north side specifically so they could feed into W-L, which has enjoyed a strong reputation for decades. All the talk about "keeping the neighborhood" together is nonsense because it's one neighborhood in name only. Kids on the south side are zoned for Barcroft and Wakefield so the only overlap 3 years (out of 13) at Kenmore. Yes, there is one civic association, but they obviously don't speak for everyone, at least not on this issue.


Are you not aware that some planning units are going to be moved to Wakefield? I guess this is okay with you as long as it's not you? Which means you yourself are guilty of finding it easy to "sell someone else down the river."

Going to Wakefield is not going down the river. But it might be if we stuff any more lower-income kids in there.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Soooo... western Pike isn't moving to Wakefield and Arlington Forest is?


That's one of 3 options. Nothing is decided yet. In no option does the Western Pike move to Wakefield.


I'm pretty sure the Arlington Forest PUs were only included to make it seem like APS was trying to be fair. They can't chose all the PUs from south of 50. That might raise some eyebrows. Arlington Forest isn't actually going to move. Please.


I agree. It would be politically very hard for them to go with this option (B) based on the reaction I saw tonight. One of the criticisms the AF parents repeatedly said is that there was no explanation provided for why these scenarios were chosen out of the hundreds of options. But I think it's pretty obvious to everyone that they had to have at least one option including PLs north of Route 50. Just to say that they did.


God knows we wouldn't want them to do anything hard.

The Arlington Forest option moves the fewest number of FARMS kids to Wakefield. That's the responsible choice.


Pretty sure we could find some planning units in the Yorktown district that have ZERO FARMS kids. That would be even more "responsible," to use your words. Except that they don't share a land border with the south so then people would fume about busing and social engineering.


Well, exactly. Which is why Arlington Forest is, actually, an excellent candidate to be moved to Wakefield. It happens to satisfy many of the county's priorities.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:When will the final decision be announced?


12/1. But more debate (read: fighting) to occur before then, no doubt. These options haven't even been presented to the Board yet.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Soooo... western Pike isn't moving to Wakefield and Arlington Forest is?


That's one of 3 options. Nothing is decided yet. In no option does the Western Pike move to Wakefield.


I'm pretty sure the Arlington Forest PUs were only included to make it seem like APS was trying to be fair. They can't chose all the PUs from south of 50. That might raise some eyebrows. Arlington Forest isn't actually going to move. Please.


I agree. It would be politically very hard for them to go with this option (B) based on the reaction I saw tonight. One of the criticisms the AF parents repeatedly said is that there was no explanation provided for why these scenarios were chosen out of the hundreds of options. But I think it's pretty obvious to everyone that they had to have at least one option including PLs north of Route 50. Just to say that they did.


"Why me?!?! Why meeeeeeeeeee?!?!?!?"


Well, I'm not in charge of this thing, but I think they were selected because it MAKES SENSE from many different perspectives. It would reunite their neighborhood (half is already at Wakefield), their kids go to KMS for middle (stability, alignment, and contiguity, check), they are NOT that far from Wakefield, and are closer than almost all the other PU's in the current scenarios (proximity, check), except for the ones that should never have been included for consideration due to, you guessed it, demographics (CHECK). APS is not so stupid to cleave off the poorest PU's from W-L, against their vocal protestations, just because they are geographically closer and to avoid having to make one half of one neighborhood angry. I mean, look at the bright side Arlington Forest folks. You can turn your attention back to the pressing matter of blocking the rebuild of your community center.

Wakefielders, I'm not really sure that you want these tools at your school anyway. They have shown their asses.


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