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Anonymous wrote:I have high hopes for this group when it comes to getting some enlightened responses, rooted in experience, to a question about player development and team/club performance. I treat the bulk of what transpires on here as satire, but every once in a while, someone adds something truly valuable. I'm hoping that'll be the case with your responses.

For those with older kids who are serious about their soccer training and potential career beyond the club level, what role do you feel a specific club or team coach has made (or could make) in the tactical, skill, and physical development of your player, or an entire team for that matter, outside of the individual/personal/group/non-team training that most do?. In other words, in the NoVA area, have any of the clubs, GA or ECNL, actually proven that they can develop their players, beginning at a young age, to be extremely competitive throughout their pre-college career? Or does a club just look like they're really good at developing talent by performing well in a given year because a large enough group of talented kids leave other clubs and all end up at the same place for a given reason, e.g. their particular age group performed well at said new club so they think it's a great club, or one of the coaches has great college relationships so they go there because they think it'll increase their likelihood of getting recruited, or they want GA vs ECNL or vice versa?

CC is both heavily praised and criticized depending on someone's individual experience. When BP was at FCV, he had a lot of relationships so talented girls went there (don't know if they were always the best in their age group or not) and CC gets the "training" credit of having graduated a lot of talented kids. Were they talented before they got there and he was just the lucky recipient of kids who wanted to leverage BP's relationships, or is he a proven entity when it comes to team-level player development and, if he's not, are any of the coaches or clubs in the NoVA area worthy of such a reputation?

- actual Rev parent

It's a blurry picture and there are plenty of examples in all directions. CC was at FCV for years before BP arrived. CC gets training credit for the girls who were developed pre-BP, and many of the players BP took credit for right after he arrived were developed by CC. They both benefited from each other and claim/deserve some of the credit. They were also both lucky recipients of talented kids. FCV was always known as the place that recruited talented players from other clubs. CC is way more knowledgable about soccer and a better teacher, BP is better at promotion, recruiting players, and has more connections. There is no single best coach/club for a player. It depends on the situation. Is the player raw and needs a lot of soccer development? Are they good at promoting themselves? Do they have a private soccer trainer and work on their own? Are they self motivated? How is their mindset? If a player is talented enough they would have recruiting success at most any ECNL or GA club because they are all going to the same showcases events. Marketing yourself by contacting coaches ahead of events with film and then *standing out* on the pitch at these events is still the recruiting formula.

When FCV got DA, the talent flocked to them. They didn’t develop anyone.

According to a lot people on this forum, most clubs not develop anyone and all kids magically become good. Also, weekly training during certain items a year is much better than concentrated training at any club.

There are a bunch of highly ranked national teams in the area, and no good coaches? Seems like kids are popping out of the womb good at soccer and coaches having nothing to do with it - odd. Except not for those of us that had good coaches at younger ages and then when given a bad coach later sought out good coaches for that age group. If you think there are no good coaches in the area you need to leave your club, because there are, you just haven’t experienced them. But you won’t, because that goes against your narrative that there are no good coaches…

I know you were being a smart a$$ but to some extent, yes. A small percentage of kids are as, or more athletic, as their peers but their brains process the game faster.

They know what they are going to do before they get the ball. Most kids/people decide what they will do once they receive the ball. Some kids/people have a better, more advanced, footballing brain. It isn't a slight on others, they can't help it. It's genetic.

It doesn't mean other people can't be successful. However, being an athlete comes more naturally, outside of physical skills, than others. Some people are very athletic physically but complete rocks mentally. They eventually don't "make it" past a certain level.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have high hopes for this group when it comes to getting some enlightened responses, rooted in experience, to a question about player development and team/club performance. I treat the bulk of what transpires on here as satire, but every once in a while, someone adds something truly valuable. I'm hoping that'll be the case with your responses.

For those with older kids who are serious about their soccer training and potential career beyond the club level, what role do you feel a specific club or team coach has made (or could make) in the tactical, skill, and physical development of your player, or an entire team for that matter, outside of the individual/personal/group/non-team training that most do?. In other words, in the NoVA area, have any of the clubs, GA or ECNL, actually proven that they can develop their players, beginning at a young age, to be extremely competitive throughout their pre-college career? Or does a club just look like they're really good at developing talent by performing well in a given year because a large enough group of talented kids leave other clubs and all end up at the same place for a given reason, e.g. their particular age group performed well at said new club so they think it's a great club, or one of the coaches has great college relationships so they go there because they think it'll increase their likelihood of getting recruited, or they want GA vs ECNL or vice versa?

CC is both heavily praised and criticized depending on someone's individual experience. When BP was at FCV, he had a lot of relationships so talented girls went there (don't know if they were always the best in their age group or not) and CC gets the "training" credit of having graduated a lot of talented kids. Were they talented before they got there and he was just the lucky recipient of kids who wanted to leverage BP's relationships, or is he a proven entity when it comes to team-level player development and, if he's not, are any of the coaches or clubs in the NoVA area worthy of such a reputation?

- actual Rev parent

It's a blurry picture and there are plenty of examples in all directions. CC was at FCV for years before BP arrived. CC gets training credit for the girls who were developed pre-BP, and many of the players BP took credit for right after he arrived were developed by CC. They both benefited from each other and claim/deserve some of the credit. They were also both lucky recipients of talented kids. FCV was always known as the place that recruited talented players from other clubs. CC is way more knowledgable about soccer and a better teacher, BP is better at promotion, recruiting players, and has more connections. There is no single best coach/club for a player. It depends on the situation. Is the player raw and needs a lot of soccer development? Are they good at promoting themselves? Do they have a private soccer trainer and work on their own? Are they self motivated? How is their mindset? If a player is talented enough they would have recruiting success at most any ECNL or GA club because they are all going to the same showcases events. Marketing yourself by contacting coaches ahead of events with film and then *standing out* on the pitch at these events is still the recruiting formula.

When FCV got DA, the talent flocked to them. They didn’t develop anyone.

+1

-99. You haven’t been around long. The girls currently at Georgia were at FCV since they were little. Same with the girl at Florida. Same with a few now at VDA. Whether that is on BP or CC can be debated.

You guys forget that kids are mostly developed between ages U8 to U12. Most of those kids developed at the other Loudoun Clubs and others in the area.

ECNL and DA/GA didn’t start til U14 years ago in which girls flock to when the good players seperate from the weak players. It’s the Ulittle coaches that always develop.

Here in the funniest thing though…GD probably had almost every single one of these now college players in the Loudoun area doing Futsal and other small sided games. Like U12 and younger. I could tell you at least 5 freshman in P4 and another in D1 outside of P4 that was Freshman who all played futsal for him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have high hopes for this group when it comes to getting some enlightened responses, rooted in experience, to a question about player development and team/club performance. I treat the bulk of what transpires on here as satire, but every once in a while, someone adds something truly valuable. I'm hoping that'll be the case with your responses.

For those with older kids who are serious about their soccer training and potential career beyond the club level, what role do you feel a specific club or team coach has made (or could make) in the tactical, skill, and physical development of your player, or an entire team for that matter, outside of the individual/personal/group/non-team training that most do?. In other words, in the NoVA area, have any of the clubs, GA or ECNL, actually proven that they can develop their players, beginning at a young age, to be extremely competitive throughout their pre-college career? Or does a club just look like they're really good at developing talent by performing well in a given year because a large enough group of talented kids leave other clubs and all end up at the same place for a given reason, e.g. their particular age group performed well at said new club so they think it's a great club, or one of the coaches has great college relationships so they go there because they think it'll increase their likelihood of getting recruited, or they want GA vs ECNL or vice versa?

CC is both heavily praised and criticized depending on someone's individual experience. When BP was at FCV, he had a lot of relationships so talented girls went there (don't know if they were always the best in their age group or not) and CC gets the "training" credit of having graduated a lot of talented kids. Were they talented before they got there and he was just the lucky recipient of kids who wanted to leverage BP's relationships, or is he a proven entity when it comes to team-level player development and, if he's not, are any of the coaches or clubs in the NoVA area worthy of such a reputation?

- actual Rev parent

It's a blurry picture and there are plenty of examples in all directions. CC was at FCV for years before BP arrived. CC gets training credit for the girls who were developed pre-BP, and many of the players BP took credit for right after he arrived were developed by CC. They both benefited from each other and claim/deserve some of the credit. They were also both lucky recipients of talented kids. FCV was always known as the place that recruited talented players from other clubs. CC is way more knowledgable about soccer and a better teacher, BP is better at promotion, recruiting players, and has more connections. There is no single best coach/club for a player. It depends on the situation. Is the player raw and needs a lot of soccer development? Are they good at promoting themselves? Do they have a private soccer trainer and work on their own? Are they self motivated? How is their mindset? If a player is talented enough they would have recruiting success at most any ECNL or GA club because they are all going to the same showcases events. Marketing yourself by contacting coaches ahead of events with film and then *standing out* on the pitch at these events is still the recruiting formula.

When FCV got DA, the talent flocked to them. They didn’t develop anyone.

+1

-99. You haven’t been around long. The girls currently at Georgia were at FCV since they were little. Same with the girl at Florida. Same with a few now at VDA. Whether that is on BP or CC can be debated.

You guys forget that kids are mostly developed between ages U8 to U12. Most of those kids developed at the other Loudoun Clubs and others in the area.

ECNL and DA/GA didn’t start til U14 years ago in which girls flock to when the good players seperate from the weak players. It’s the Ulittle coaches that always develop.

Here in the funniest thing though…GD probably had almost every single one of these now college players in the Loudoun area doing Futsal and other small sided games. Like U12 and younger. I could tell you at least 5 freshman in P4 and another in D1 outside of P4 that was Freshman who all played futsal for him.

Freshman of the Year. Sorry.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have high hopes for this group when it comes to getting some enlightened responses, rooted in experience, to a question about player development and team/club performance. I treat the bulk of what transpires on here as satire, but every once in a while, someone adds something truly valuable. I'm hoping that'll be the case with your responses.

For those with older kids who are serious about their soccer training and potential career beyond the club level, what role do you feel a specific club or team coach has made (or could make) in the tactical, skill, and physical development of your player, or an entire team for that matter, outside of the individual/personal/group/non-team training that most do?. In other words, in the NoVA area, have any of the clubs, GA or ECNL, actually proven that they can develop their players, beginning at a young age, to be extremely competitive throughout their pre-college career? Or does a club just look like they're really good at developing talent by performing well in a given year because a large enough group of talented kids leave other clubs and all end up at the same place for a given reason, e.g. their particular age group performed well at said new club so they think it's a great club, or one of the coaches has great college relationships so they go there because they think it'll increase their likelihood of getting recruited, or they want GA vs ECNL or vice versa?

CC is both heavily praised and criticized depending on someone's individual experience. When BP was at FCV, he had a lot of relationships so talented girls went there (don't know if they were always the best in their age group or not) and CC gets the "training" credit of having graduated a lot of talented kids. Were they talented before they got there and he was just the lucky recipient of kids who wanted to leverage BP's relationships, or is he a proven entity when it comes to team-level player development and, if he's not, are any of the coaches or clubs in the NoVA area worthy of such a reputation?

- actual Rev parent

It's a blurry picture and there are plenty of examples in all directions. CC was at FCV for years before BP arrived. CC gets training credit for the girls who were developed pre-BP, and many of the players BP took credit for right after he arrived were developed by CC. They both benefited from each other and claim/deserve some of the credit. They were also both lucky recipients of talented kids. FCV was always known as the place that recruited talented players from other clubs. CC is way more knowledgable about soccer and a better teacher, BP is better at promotion, recruiting players, and has more connections. There is no single best coach/club for a player. It depends on the situation. Is the player raw and needs a lot of soccer development? Are they good at promoting themselves? Do they have a private soccer trainer and work on their own? Are they self motivated? How is their mindset? If a player is talented enough they would have recruiting success at most any ECNL or GA club because they are all going to the same showcases events. Marketing yourself by contacting coaches ahead of events with film and then *standing out* on the pitch at these events is still the recruiting formula.

When FCV got DA, the talent flocked to them. They didn’t develop anyone.

+1

-99. You haven’t been around long. The girls currently at Georgia were at FCV since they were little. Same with the girl at Florida. Same with a few now at VDA. Whether that is on BP or CC can be debated.

You guys forget that kids are mostly developed between ages U8 to U12. Most of those kids developed at the other Loudoun Clubs and others in the area.

ECNL and DA/GA didn’t start til U14 years ago in which girls flock to when the good players seperate from the weak players. It’s the Ulittle coaches that always develop.

Here in the funniest thing though…GD probably had almost every single one of these now college players in the Loudoun area doing Futsal and other small sided games. Like U12 and younger. I could tell you at least 5 freshman in P4 and another in D1 outside of P4 that was Freshman who all played futsal for him.

Futsal means very little. Does it help? Yes. Does it completely translate to 11 v 11 full pitch soccer? No. It doesn't at all. It can help a kid look really good on TikTok though.

Bottom line, futsal is helpful but not some panacea like some people think.

Let your littles play it. It's helpful but not anymore than some other things.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have high hopes for this group when it comes to getting some enlightened responses, rooted in experience, to a question about player development and team/club performance. I treat the bulk of what transpires on here as satire, but every once in a while, someone adds something truly valuable. I'm hoping that'll be the case with your responses.

For those with older kids who are serious about their soccer training and potential career beyond the club level, what role do you feel a specific club or team coach has made (or could make) in the tactical, skill, and physical development of your player, or an entire team for that matter, outside of the individual/personal/group/non-team training that most do?. In other words, in the NoVA area, have any of the clubs, GA or ECNL, actually proven that they can develop their players, beginning at a young age, to be extremely competitive throughout their pre-college career? Or does a club just look like they're really good at developing talent by performing well in a given year because a large enough group of talented kids leave other clubs and all end up at the same place for a given reason, e.g. their particular age group performed well at said new club so they think it's a great club, or one of the coaches has great college relationships so they go there because they think it'll increase their likelihood of getting recruited, or they want GA vs ECNL or vice versa?

CC is both heavily praised and criticized depending on someone's individual experience. When BP was at FCV, he had a lot of relationships so talented girls went there (don't know if they were always the best in their age group or not) and CC gets the "training" credit of having graduated a lot of talented kids. Were they talented before they got there and he was just the lucky recipient of kids who wanted to leverage BP's relationships, or is he a proven entity when it comes to team-level player development and, if he's not, are any of the coaches or clubs in the NoVA area worthy of such a reputation?

- actual Rev parent

It's a blurry picture and there are plenty of examples in all directions. CC was at FCV for years before BP arrived. CC gets training credit for the girls who were developed pre-BP, and many of the players BP took credit for right after he arrived were developed by CC. They both benefited from each other and claim/deserve some of the credit. They were also both lucky recipients of talented kids. FCV was always known as the place that recruited talented players from other clubs. CC is way more knowledgable about soccer and a better teacher, BP is better at promotion, recruiting players, and has more connections. There is no single best coach/club for a player. It depends on the situation. Is the player raw and needs a lot of soccer development? Are they good at promoting themselves? Do they have a private soccer trainer and work on their own? Are they self motivated? How is their mindset? If a player is talented enough they would have recruiting success at most any ECNL or GA club because they are all going to the same showcases events. Marketing yourself by contacting coaches ahead of events with film and then *standing out* on the pitch at these events is still the recruiting formula.

When FCV got DA, the talent flocked to them. They didn’t develop anyone.

+1

-99. You haven’t been around long. The girls currently at Georgia were at FCV since they were little. Same with the girl at Florida. Same with a few now at VDA. Whether that is on BP or CC can be debated.

You guys forget that kids are mostly developed between ages U8 to U12. Most of those kids developed at the other Loudoun Clubs and others in the area.

ECNL and DA/GA didn’t start til U14 years ago in which girls flock to when the good players seperate from the weak players. It’s the Ulittle coaches that always develop.

Here in the funniest thing though…GD probably had almost every single one of these now college players in the Loudoun area doing Futsal and other small sided games. Like U12 and younger. I could tell you at least 5 freshman in P4 and another in D1 outside of P4 that was Freshman who all played futsal for him.

Sounds good! Thanks CC!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have high hopes for this group when it comes to getting some enlightened responses, rooted in experience, to a question about player development and team/club performance. I treat the bulk of what transpires on here as satire, but every once in a while, someone adds something truly valuable. I'm hoping that'll be the case with your responses.

For those with older kids who are serious about their soccer training and potential career beyond the club level, what role do you feel a specific club or team coach has made (or could make) in the tactical, skill, and physical development of your player, or an entire team for that matter, outside of the individual/personal/group/non-team training that most do?. In other words, in the NoVA area, have any of the clubs, GA or ECNL, actually proven that they can develop their players, beginning at a young age, to be extremely competitive throughout their pre-college career? Or does a club just look like they're really good at developing talent by performing well in a given year because a large enough group of talented kids leave other clubs and all end up at the same place for a given reason, e.g. their particular age group performed well at said new club so they think it's a great club, or one of the coaches has great college relationships so they go there because they think it'll increase their likelihood of getting recruited, or they want GA vs ECNL or vice versa?

CC is both heavily praised and criticized depending on someone's individual experience. When BP was at FCV, he had a lot of relationships so talented girls went there (don't know if they were always the best in their age group or not) and CC gets the "training" credit of having graduated a lot of talented kids. Were they talented before they got there and he was just the lucky recipient of kids who wanted to leverage BP's relationships, or is he a proven entity when it comes to team-level player development and, if he's not, are any of the coaches or clubs in the NoVA area worthy of such a reputation?

- actual Rev parent

It's a blurry picture and there are plenty of examples in all directions. CC was at FCV for years before BP arrived. CC gets training credit for the girls who were developed pre-BP, and many of the players BP took credit for right after he arrived were developed by CC. They both benefited from each other and claim/deserve some of the credit. They were also both lucky recipients of talented kids. FCV was always known as the place that recruited talented players from other clubs. CC is way more knowledgable about soccer and a better teacher, BP is better at promotion, recruiting players, and has more connections. There is no single best coach/club for a player. It depends on the situation. Is the player raw and needs a lot of soccer development? Are they good at promoting themselves? Do they have a private soccer trainer and work on their own? Are they self motivated? How is their mindset? If a player is talented enough they would have recruiting success at most any ECNL or GA club because they are all going to the same showcases events. Marketing yourself by contacting coaches ahead of events with film and then *standing out* on the pitch at these events is still the recruiting formula.

When FCV got DA, the talent flocked to them. They didn’t develop anyone.

+1

-99. You haven’t been around long. The girls currently at Georgia were at FCV since they were little. Same with the girl at Florida. Same with a few now at VDA. Whether that is on BP or CC can be debated.

You guys forget that kids are mostly developed between ages U8 to U12. Most of those kids developed at the other Loudoun Clubs and others in the area.

ECNL and DA/GA didn’t start til U14 years ago in which girls flock to when the good players seperate from the weak players. It’s the Ulittle coaches that always develop.

Here in the funniest thing though…GD probably had almost every single one of these now college players in the Loudoun area doing Futsal and other small sided games. Like U12 and younger. I could tell you at least 5 freshman in P4 and another in D1 outside of P4 that was Freshman who all played futsal for him.

Sounds good! Thanks CC!

Bless his heart.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have high hopes for this group when it comes to getting some enlightened responses, rooted in experience, to a question about player development and team/club performance. I treat the bulk of what transpires on here as satire, but every once in a while, someone adds something truly valuable. I'm hoping that'll be the case with your responses.

For those with older kids who are serious about their soccer training and potential career beyond the club level, what role do you feel a specific club or team coach has made (or could make) in the tactical, skill, and physical development of your player, or an entire team for that matter, outside of the individual/personal/group/non-team training that most do?. In other words, in the NoVA area, have any of the clubs, GA or ECNL, actually proven that they can develop their players, beginning at a young age, to be extremely competitive throughout their pre-college career? Or does a club just look like they're really good at developing talent by performing well in a given year because a large enough group of talented kids leave other clubs and all end up at the same place for a given reason, e.g. their particular age group performed well at said new club so they think it's a great club, or one of the coaches has great college relationships so they go there because they think it'll increase their likelihood of getting recruited, or they want GA vs ECNL or vice versa?

CC is both heavily praised and criticized depending on someone's individual experience. When BP was at FCV, he had a lot of relationships so talented girls went there (don't know if they were always the best in their age group or not) and CC gets the "training" credit of having graduated a lot of talented kids. Were they talented before they got there and he was just the lucky recipient of kids who wanted to leverage BP's relationships, or is he a proven entity when it comes to team-level player development and, if he's not, are any of the coaches or clubs in the NoVA area worthy of such a reputation?

- actual Rev parent

It's a blurry picture and there are plenty of examples in all directions. CC was at FCV for years before BP arrived. CC gets training credit for the girls who were developed pre-BP, and many of the players BP took credit for right after he arrived were developed by CC. They both benefited from each other and claim/deserve some of the credit. They were also both lucky recipients of talented kids. FCV was always known as the place that recruited talented players from other clubs. CC is way more knowledgable about soccer and a better teacher, BP is better at promotion, recruiting players, and has more connections. There is no single best coach/club for a player. It depends on the situation. Is the player raw and needs a lot of soccer development? Are they good at promoting themselves? Do they have a private soccer trainer and work on their own? Are they self motivated? How is their mindset? If a player is talented enough they would have recruiting success at most any ECNL or GA club because they are all going to the same showcases events. Marketing yourself by contacting coaches ahead of events with film and then *standing out* on the pitch at these events is still the recruiting formula.

When FCV got DA, the talent flocked to them. They didn’t develop anyone.

+1

-99. You haven’t been around long. The girls currently at Georgia were at FCV since they were little. Same with the girl at Florida. Same with a few now at VDA. Whether that is on BP or CC can be debated.

You guys forget that kids are mostly developed between ages U8 to U12. Most of those kids developed at the other Loudoun Clubs and others in the area.

ECNL and DA/GA didn’t start til U14 years ago in which girls flock to when the good players seperate from the weak players. It’s the Ulittle coaches that always develop.

Here in the funniest thing though…GD probably had almost every single one of these now college players in the Loudoun area doing Futsal and other small sided games. Like U12 and younger. I could tell you at least 5 freshman in P4 and another in D1 outside of P4 that was Freshman who all played futsal for him.

Sounds good! Thanks CC!

Bless his heart.

He really is a terrible person.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have high hopes for this group when it comes to getting some enlightened responses, rooted in experience, to a question about player development and team/club performance. I treat the bulk of what transpires on here as satire, but every once in a while, someone adds something truly valuable. I'm hoping that'll be the case with your responses.

For those with older kids who are serious about their soccer training and potential career beyond the club level, what role do you feel a specific club or team coach has made (or could make) in the tactical, skill, and physical development of your player, or an entire team for that matter, outside of the individual/personal/group/non-team training that most do?. In other words, in the NoVA area, have any of the clubs, GA or ECNL, actually proven that they can develop their players, beginning at a young age, to be extremely competitive throughout their pre-college career? Or does a club just look like they're really good at developing talent by performing well in a given year because a large enough group of talented kids leave other clubs and all end up at the same place for a given reason, e.g. their particular age group performed well at said new club so they think it's a great club, or one of the coaches has great college relationships so they go there because they think it'll increase their likelihood of getting recruited, or they want GA vs ECNL or vice versa?

CC is both heavily praised and criticized depending on someone's individual experience. When BP was at FCV, he had a lot of relationships so talented girls went there (don't know if they were always the best in their age group or not) and CC gets the "training" credit of having graduated a lot of talented kids. Were they talented before they got there and he was just the lucky recipient of kids who wanted to leverage BP's relationships, or is he a proven entity when it comes to team-level player development and, if he's not, are any of the coaches or clubs in the NoVA area worthy of such a reputation?

- actual Rev parent

It's a blurry picture and there are plenty of examples in all directions. CC was at FCV for years before BP arrived. CC gets training credit for the girls who were developed pre-BP, and many of the players BP took credit for right after he arrived were developed by CC. They both benefited from each other and claim/deserve some of the credit. They were also both lucky recipients of talented kids. FCV was always known as the place that recruited talented players from other clubs. CC is way more knowledgable about soccer and a better teacher, BP is better at promotion, recruiting players, and has more connections. There is no single best coach/club for a player. It depends on the situation. Is the player raw and needs a lot of soccer development? Are they good at promoting themselves? Do they have a private soccer trainer and work on their own? Are they self motivated? How is their mindset? If a player is talented enough they would have recruiting success at most any ECNL or GA club because they are all going to the same showcases events. Marketing yourself by contacting coaches ahead of events with film and then *standing out* on the pitch at these events is still the recruiting formula.

When FCV got DA, the talent flocked to them. They didn’t develop anyone.

+1

-99. You haven’t been around long. The girls currently at Georgia were at FCV since they were little. Same with the girl at Florida. Same with a few now at VDA. Whether that is on BP or CC can be debated.

You guys forget that kids are mostly developed between ages U8 to U12. Most of those kids developed at the other Loudoun Clubs and others in the area.

ECNL and DA/GA didn’t start til U14 years ago in which girls flock to when the good players seperate from the weak players. It’s the Ulittle coaches that always develop.

Here in the funniest thing though…GD probably had almost every single one of these now college players in the Loudoun area doing Futsal and other small sided games. Like U12 and younger. I could tell you at least 5 freshman in P4 and another in D1 outside of P4 that was Freshman who all played futsal for him.

Futsal means very little. Does it help? Yes. Does it completely translate to 11 v 11 full pitch soccer? No. It doesn't at all. It can help a kid look really good on TikTok though.

Bottom line, futsal is helpful but not some panacea like some people think.

Let your littles play it. It's helpful but not anymore than some other things.

Please feel free to ask Christian Pulisic what Futsal did for him and get back to me.

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Anonymous wrote:I have high hopes for this group when it comes to getting some enlightened responses, rooted in experience, to a question about player development and team/club performance. I treat the bulk of what transpires on here as satire, but every once in a while, someone adds something truly valuable. I'm hoping that'll be the case with your responses.

For those with older kids who are serious about their soccer training and potential career beyond the club level, what role do you feel a specific club or team coach has made (or could make) in the tactical, skill, and physical development of your player, or an entire team for that matter, outside of the individual/personal/group/non-team training that most do?. In other words, in the NoVA area, have any of the clubs, GA or ECNL, actually proven that they can develop their players, beginning at a young age, to be extremely competitive throughout their pre-college career? Or does a club just look like they're really good at developing talent by performing well in a given year because a large enough group of talented kids leave other clubs and all end up at the same place for a given reason, e.g. their particular age group performed well at said new club so they think it's a great club, or one of the coaches has great college relationships so they go there because they think it'll increase their likelihood of getting recruited, or they want GA vs ECNL or vice versa?

CC is both heavily praised and criticized depending on someone's individual experience. When BP was at FCV, he had a lot of relationships so talented girls went there (don't know if they were always the best in their age group or not) and CC gets the "training" credit of having graduated a lot of talented kids. Were they talented before they got there and he was just the lucky recipient of kids who wanted to leverage BP's relationships, or is he a proven entity when it comes to team-level player development and, if he's not, are any of the coaches or clubs in the NoVA area worthy of such a reputation?

- actual Rev parent

It's a blurry picture and there are plenty of examples in all directions. CC was at FCV for years before BP arrived. CC gets training credit for the girls who were developed pre-BP, and many of the players BP took credit for right after he arrived were developed by CC. They both benefited from each other and claim/deserve some of the credit. They were also both lucky recipients of talented kids. FCV was always known as the place that recruited talented players from other clubs. CC is way more knowledgable about soccer and a better teacher, BP is better at promotion, recruiting players, and has more connections. There is no single best coach/club for a player. It depends on the situation. Is the player raw and needs a lot of soccer development? Are they good at promoting themselves? Do they have a private soccer trainer and work on their own? Are they self motivated? How is their mindset? If a player is talented enough they would have recruiting success at most any ECNL or GA club because they are all going to the same showcases events. Marketing yourself by contacting coaches ahead of events with film and then *standing out* on the pitch at these events is still the recruiting formula.

When FCV got DA, the talent flocked to them. They didn’t develop anyone.

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-99. You haven’t been around long. The girls currently at Georgia were at FCV since they were little. Same with the girl at Florida. Same with a few now at VDA. Whether that is on BP or CC can be debated.

You guys forget that kids are mostly developed between ages U8 to U12. Most of those kids developed at the other Loudoun Clubs and others in the area.

ECNL and DA/GA didn’t start til U14 years ago in which girls flock to when the good players seperate from the weak players. It’s the Ulittle coaches that always develop.

Here in the funniest thing though…GD probably had almost every single one of these now college players in the Loudoun area doing Futsal and other small sided games. Like U12 and younger. I could tell you at least 5 freshman in P4 and another in D1 outside of P4 that was Freshman who all played futsal for him.

Futsal means very little. Does it help? Yes. Does it completely translate to 11 v 11 full pitch soccer? No. It doesn't at all. It can help a kid look really good on TikTok though.

Bottom line, futsal is helpful but not some panacea like some people think.

Let your littles play it. It's helpful but not anymore than some other things.

Please feel free to ask Christian Pulisic what Futsal did for him and get back to me.

Pulisic is the best example that you can come up with when talking about futsal? That lets me know that you dont know anything about soccer.

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Anonymous wrote:I have high hopes for this group when it comes to getting some enlightened responses, rooted in experience, to a question about player development and team/club performance. I treat the bulk of what transpires on here as satire, but every once in a while, someone adds something truly valuable. I'm hoping that'll be the case with your responses.

For those with older kids who are serious about their soccer training and potential career beyond the club level, what role do you feel a specific club or team coach has made (or could make) in the tactical, skill, and physical development of your player, or an entire team for that matter, outside of the individual/personal/group/non-team training that most do?. In other words, in the NoVA area, have any of the clubs, GA or ECNL, actually proven that they can develop their players, beginning at a young age, to be extremely competitive throughout their pre-college career? Or does a club just look like they're really good at developing talent by performing well in a given year because a large enough group of talented kids leave other clubs and all end up at the same place for a given reason, e.g. their particular age group performed well at said new club so they think it's a great club, or one of the coaches has great college relationships so they go there because they think it'll increase their likelihood of getting recruited, or they want GA vs ECNL or vice versa?

CC is both heavily praised and criticized depending on someone's individual experience. When BP was at FCV, he had a lot of relationships so talented girls went there (don't know if they were always the best in their age group or not) and CC gets the "training" credit of having graduated a lot of talented kids. Were they talented before they got there and he was just the lucky recipient of kids who wanted to leverage BP's relationships, or is he a proven entity when it comes to team-level player development and, if he's not, are any of the coaches or clubs in the NoVA area worthy of such a reputation?

- actual Rev parent

It's a blurry picture and there are plenty of examples in all directions. CC was at FCV for years before BP arrived. CC gets training credit for the girls who were developed pre-BP, and many of the players BP took credit for right after he arrived were developed by CC. They both benefited from each other and claim/deserve some of the credit. They were also both lucky recipients of talented kids. FCV was always known as the place that recruited talented players from other clubs. CC is way more knowledgable about soccer and a better teacher, BP is better at promotion, recruiting players, and has more connections. There is no single best coach/club for a player. It depends on the situation. Is the player raw and needs a lot of soccer development? Are they good at promoting themselves? Do they have a private soccer trainer and work on their own? Are they self motivated? How is their mindset? If a player is talented enough they would have recruiting success at most any ECNL or GA club because they are all going to the same showcases events. Marketing yourself by contacting coaches ahead of events with film and then *standing out* on the pitch at these events is still the recruiting formula.

When FCV got DA, the talent flocked to them. They didn’t develop anyone.

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-99. You haven’t been around long. The girls currently at Georgia were at FCV since they were little. Same with the girl at Florida. Same with a few now at VDA. Whether that is on BP or CC can be debated.

You guys forget that kids are mostly developed between ages U8 to U12. Most of those kids developed at the other Loudoun Clubs and others in the area.

ECNL and DA/GA didn’t start til U14 years ago in which girls flock to when the good players seperate from the weak players. It’s the Ulittle coaches that always develop.

Here in the funniest thing though…GD probably had almost every single one of these now college players in the Loudoun area doing Futsal and other small sided games. Like U12 and younger. I could tell you at least 5 freshman in P4 and another in D1 outside of P4 that was Freshman who all played futsal for him.

Futsal means very little. Does it help? Yes. Does it completely translate to 11 v 11 full pitch soccer? No. It doesn't at all. It can help a kid look really good on TikTok though.

Bottom line, futsal is helpful but not some panacea like some people think.

Let your littles play it. It's helpful but not anymore than some other things.

Please feel free to ask Christian Pulisic what Futsal did for him and get back to me.

Pulisic is the best example that you can come up with when talking about futsal? That lets me know that you dont know anything about soccer.

Would Messi’s example suffice to you? Ever heard of him? He’s on interviews quoted to own the vast array of ball mastery he possesses to his time playing futsal.

You are a prime grade-a example of the supine ignorance that roams our country’s football fields.

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CC doesn’t care what anyone thinks about him here. Any high level coach knows he can’t keep everyone happy. Any high level youth coach really only cares about getting players to the next level. He has one of the top 3 players in the US on his time and many other successful players.

If you want a coach that is trying to please everyone, play fourth tier. Even then, coaches can’t keep everyone happy.

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Anonymous wrote:I have high hopes for this group when it comes to getting some enlightened responses, rooted in experience, to a question about player development and team/club performance. I treat the bulk of what transpires on here as satire, but every once in a while, someone adds something truly valuable. I'm hoping that'll be the case with your responses.

For those with older kids who are serious about their soccer training and potential career beyond the club level, what role do you feel a specific club or team coach has made (or could make) in the tactical, skill, and physical development of your player, or an entire team for that matter, outside of the individual/personal/group/non-team training that most do?. In other words, in the NoVA area, have any of the clubs, GA or ECNL, actually proven that they can develop their players, beginning at a young age, to be extremely competitive throughout their pre-college career? Or does a club just look like they're really good at developing talent by performing well in a given year because a large enough group of talented kids leave other clubs and all end up at the same place for a given reason, e.g. their particular age group performed well at said new club so they think it's a great club, or one of the coaches has great college relationships so they go there because they think it'll increase their likelihood of getting recruited, or they want GA vs ECNL or vice versa?

CC is both heavily praised and criticized depending on someone's individual experience. When BP was at FCV, he had a lot of relationships so talented girls went there (don't know if they were always the best in their age group or not) and CC gets the "training" credit of having graduated a lot of talented kids. Were they talented before they got there and he was just the lucky recipient of kids who wanted to leverage BP's relationships, or is he a proven entity when it comes to team-level player development and, if he's not, are any of the coaches or clubs in the NoVA area worthy of such a reputation?

- actual Rev parent

It's a blurry picture and there are plenty of examples in all directions. CC was at FCV for years before BP arrived. CC gets training credit for the girls who were developed pre-BP, and many of the players BP took credit for right after he arrived were developed by CC. They both benefited from each other and claim/deserve some of the credit. They were also both lucky recipients of talented kids. FCV was always known as the place that recruited talented players from other clubs. CC is way more knowledgable about soccer and a better teacher, BP is better at promotion, recruiting players, and has more connections. There is no single best coach/club for a player. It depends on the situation. Is the player raw and needs a lot of soccer development? Are they good at promoting themselves? Do they have a private soccer trainer and work on their own? Are they self motivated? How is their mindset? If a player is talented enough they would have recruiting success at most any ECNL or GA club because they are all going to the same showcases events. Marketing yourself by contacting coaches ahead of events with film and then *standing out* on the pitch at these events is still the recruiting formula.

When FCV got DA, the talent flocked to them. They didn’t develop anyone.

+1

-99. You haven’t been around long. The girls currently at Georgia were at FCV since they were little. Same with the girl at Florida. Same with a few now at VDA. Whether that is on BP or CC can be debated.

You guys forget that kids are mostly developed between ages U8 to U12. Most of those kids developed at the other Loudoun Clubs and others in the area.

ECNL and DA/GA didn’t start til U14 years ago in which girls flock to when the good players seperate from the weak players. It’s the Ulittle coaches that always develop.

Here in the funniest thing though…GD probably had almost every single one of these now college players in the Loudoun area doing Futsal and other small sided games. Like U12 and younger. I could tell you at least 5 freshman in P4 and another in D1 outside of P4 that was Freshman who all played futsal for him.

Futsal means very little. Does it help? Yes. Does it completely translate to 11 v 11 full pitch soccer? No. It doesn't at all. It can help a kid look really good on TikTok though.

Bottom line, futsal is helpful but not some panacea like some people think.

Let your littles play it. It's helpful but not anymore than some other things.

Please feel free to ask Christian Pulisic what Futsal did for him and get back to me.

Pulisic is the best example that you can come up with when talking about futsal? That lets me know that you dont know anything about soccer.

Would Messi’s example suffice to you? Ever heard of him? He’s on interviews quoted to own the vast array of ball mastery he possesses to his time playing futsal.

You are a prime grade-a example of the supine ignorance that roams our country’s football fields.

If you are going to try and sound sophisticated and call it "football" then it's a "pitch" not a "field". You're making yourself sound ignorant and look like a joke. If the shoe fits...

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Anonymous wrote:CC doesn’t care what anyone thinks about him here. Any high level coach knows he can’t keep everyone happy. Any high level youth coach really only cares about getting players to the next level. He has one of the top 3 players in the US on his time and many other successful players.

If you want a coach that is trying to please everyone, play fourth tier. Even then, coaches can’t keep everyone happy.

He is an abusive coach whose time is numbered. Just because he had a lot of big names, doesn't make him a good coach. Snyder had a lot of big named players and that didn't make him a good owner. It is the fact that he doesn't care that makes him such a shthead. A lot of people have done good by him only to get dumped on. As I said, his days are numbered. He will join club with RAT soon enough.

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Anonymous wrote:CC doesn’t care what anyone thinks about him here. Any high level coach knows he can’t keep everyone happy. Any high level youth coach really only cares about getting players to the next level. He has one of the top 3 players in the US on his time and many other successful players.

If you want a coach that is trying to please everyone, play fourth tier. Even then, coaches can’t keep everyone happy.

He is an abusive coach whose time is numbered. Just because he had a lot of big names, doesn't make him a good coach. Snyder had a lot of big named players and that didn't make him a good owner. It is the fact that he doesn't care that makes him such a shthead. A lot of people have done good by him only to get dumped on. As I said, his days are numbered. He will join club with RAT soon enough.

You have been saying for years the days are numbered for coaches, clubs, teams, blah blah. Nobody believes anything you are saying. That won’t change no how many times you keep pushing it. It’s funny actually because the more you keep this club at the top of the forum the more they stay relevant.

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What happened to the sleezy panel salesman?