Man and Woman Shot and Killed Outside Capital Jewish Museum

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Anonymous wrote:In case I didn’t make it clear ^ I’m talking about the far left progressives here.

I hate to break it to you, but a slight majority of ALL Americans now have a negative opinion of Israel. There are more Democrats, yes, but Republicans (both young and old) are also looking more unfavorably on Israel, just in the past 3 years.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/04/08/how-americans-view-israel-and-the-israel-hamas-war-at-the-start-of-trumps-second-term/

You know it must be really bad when not only your allies but even your own former Prime minister is admitting to war crimes in Gaza

https://www.haaretz.co.il/opinions/2025-05-22/ty-article-opinion/.premium/00000196-f7b9-db1f-a7b6-f7b966e40000

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I think both sides have been absolutely horrendous throughout this whole thing. They both have legitimate and serious gripes, but neither has handled the situation well, and this has been the case for my entire life. My father was a journalist who studied the conflicts going back to the 1960s, and I grew up with it in the 1960s. Terrorism, suicide bombings, rocket attacks on the Palestinian side, versus decades of bad policy and outright crimes on the Israeli side, and complete intransigence, many bad-faith acts, poison-pill offers, lack of earnest negotiation. For decades.

A reset is needed. Fresh start, with a different set of voices.

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Anonymous wrote:Antisemitism is the world’s oldest hatred. But I have read that it is really about people—bullies—who are unhappy with their own lives and take out their frustrations on Jews. Jews are a target for people on both political extremes.

This wasn't anti-semitism. They were targeted because they are Israeli Embassy officials. That is its own version of despicable hatred but it is an important distinction.

How could he have known they were embassy officials? That part seems unclear

Pretty obvious from his socials along with his advocacy for genocide and ethnic cleansing and parroting Zionist talking points.

I actually hope he knew they were diplomats. otherwise the implication is that he just sought out a Jewish location and hunted Jews.

Is that any different from what Israel does every day?

Well, yes. Hunting jews for sport in the US based on their identity is different than genocide against Palestinians in the form of war based on declared national interest. Both are horrible and murderous. But they are different crimes with different motivations.

Which do you think is worse, the killing of two Zionists (not two Jews which you deliberately misrepresented) or a genocide that involves killing of children as a hobby? Not my words but that of the cheif of the isreali army, Yair Golan

Nearly 100% of Jews identify as Zionists, which has always simply been about Jewish self determination. “Progressives” have unilaterally re-defined the word to mean “pro-genocide” (and they have also unilaterally redefined the word genocide), which conveniently makes nearly all Jews genocidal maniacs, or forces them to pass nonstop purity tests so you won’t justify murdering them.

— a Zionist who is completely anti Netanyahu, against Israeli actions in Gaza and the West Bank, anti settler, pro two state solution and cares very much about the Palestinian people. (And the vast majority of Jews share all of these views).

I already know what you’ll say in response, but no, you can’t just re-define words with long accepted meanings in order to make your hatred of Jews into something righteous.

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Anonymous wrote:Antisemitism is the world’s oldest hatred. But I have read that it is really about people—bullies—who are unhappy with their own lives and take out their frustrations on Jews. Jews are a target for people on both political extremes.

This wasn't anti-semitism. They were targeted because they are Israeli Embassy officials. That is its own version of despicable hatred but it is an important distinction.

How could he have known they were embassy officials? That part seems unclear

Pretty obvious from his socials along with his advocacy for genocide and ethnic cleansing and parroting Zionist talking points.

I actually hope he knew they were diplomats. otherwise the implication is that he just sought out a Jewish location and hunted Jews.

Is that any different from what Israel does every day?

Well, yes. Hunting jews for sport in the US based on their identity is different than genocide against Palestinians in the form of war based on declared national interest. Both are horrible and murderous. But they are different crimes with different motivations.

Which do you think is worse, the killing of two Zionists (not two Jews which you deliberately misrepresented) or a genocide that involves killing of children as a hobby? Not my words but that of the cheif of the isreali army, Yair Golan

Nearly 100% of Jews identify as Zionists, which has always simply been about Jewish self determination. “Progressives” have unilaterally re-defined the word to mean “pro-genocide” (and they have also unilaterally redefined the word genocide), which conveniently makes nearly all Jews genocidal maniacs, or forces them to pass nonstop purity tests so you won’t justify murdering them.

— a Zionist who is completely anti Netanyahu, against Israeli actions in Gaza and the West Bank, anti settler, pro two state solution and cares very much about the Palestinian people. (And the vast majority of Jews share all of these views).

I already know what you’ll say in response, but no, you can’t just re-define words with long accepted meanings in order to make your hatred of Jews into something righteous.

People don’t just spontaneously hate you. That’s Zionist propaganda that has infected your perspective. Us vs. them.

If Israel wasn’t directly responsible for 77 years of brutal subjugation, nobody would have the basis to speak out against what’s occurring right now.

- a denouncer of radical, extremist Zionism, but against “the annihilation of the Jews”, “the destruction of Israel” or any of the other emotionally-charged propaganda that radical, extremist Zionists have used to stoke irrational support for decades; supporter of massive government and societal reform in Israel that results in either a two-state or one-state solution where both Jews and non-Jews alike coexist as equals; rejecter of terms like a nation’s “right to exist” and “preemptive self-defense”.

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^^^ also, denouncer of Hamas and radical, extremist Islamist terrorism

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Anonymous wrote:Antisemitism is the world’s oldest hatred. But I have read that it is really about people—bullies—who are unhappy with their own lives and take out their frustrations on Jews. Jews are a target for people on both political extremes.

This wasn't anti-semitism. They were targeted because they are Israeli Embassy officials. That is its own version of despicable hatred but it is an important distinction.

How could he have known they were embassy officials? That part seems unclear

Pretty obvious from his socials along with his advocacy for genocide and ethnic cleansing and parroting Zionist talking points.

I actually hope he knew they were diplomats. otherwise the implication is that he just sought out a Jewish location and hunted Jews.

Is that any different from what Israel does every day?

Well, yes. Hunting jews for sport in the US based on their identity is different than genocide against Palestinians in the form of war based on declared national interest. Both are horrible and murderous. But they are different crimes with different motivations.

Which do you think is worse, the killing of two Zionists (not two Jews which you deliberately misrepresented) or a genocide that involves killing of children as a hobby? Not my words but that of the cheif of the isreali army, Yair Golan

Nearly 100% of Jews identify as Zionists, which has always simply been about Jewish self determination. “Progressives” have unilaterally re-defined the word to mean “pro-genocide” (and they have also unilaterally redefined the word genocide), which conveniently makes nearly all Jews genocidal maniacs, or forces them to pass nonstop purity tests so you won’t justify murdering them.

— a Zionist who is completely anti Netanyahu, against Israeli actions in Gaza and the West Bank, anti settler, pro two state solution and cares very much about the Palestinian people. (And the vast majority of Jews share all of these views).

I already know what you’ll say in response, but no, you can’t just re-define words with long accepted meanings in order to make your hatred of Jews into something righteous.

People don’t just spontaneously hate you. That’s Zionist propaganda that has infected your perspective. Us vs. them.

If Israel wasn’t directly responsible for 77 years of brutal subjugation, nobody would have the basis to speak out against what’s occurring right now.

- a denouncer of radical, extremist Zionism, but against “the annihilation of the Jews”, “the destruction of Israel” or any of the other emotionally-charged propaganda that radical, extremist Zionists have used to stoke irrational support for decades; supporter of massive government and societal reform in Israel that results in either a two-state or one-state solution where both Jews and non-Jews alike coexist as equals; rejecter of terms like a nation’s “right to exist” and “preemptive self-defense”.

Anti-semitism has been around since waaaay before Zionism.

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Anonymous wrote:Antisemitism is the world’s oldest hatred. But I have read that it is really about people—bullies—who are unhappy with their own lives and take out their frustrations on Jews. Jews are a target for people on both political extremes.

This wasn't anti-semitism. They were targeted because they are Israeli Embassy officials. That is its own version of despicable hatred but it is an important distinction.

How could he have known they were embassy officials? That part seems unclear

Pretty obvious from his socials along with his advocacy for genocide and ethnic cleansing and parroting Zionist talking points.

I actually hope he knew they were diplomats. otherwise the implication is that he just sought out a Jewish location and hunted Jews.

Is that any different from what Israel does every day?

Well, yes. Hunting jews for sport in the US based on their identity is different than genocide against Palestinians in the form of war based on declared national interest. Both are horrible and murderous. But they are different crimes with different motivations.

Which do you think is worse, the killing of two Zionists (not two Jews which you deliberately misrepresented) or a genocide that involves killing of children as a hobby? Not my words but that of the cheif of the isreali army, Yair Golan

Nearly 100% of Jews identify as Zionists, which has always simply been about Jewish self determination. “Progressives” have unilaterally re-defined the word to mean “pro-genocide” (and they have also unilaterally redefined the word genocide), which conveniently makes nearly all Jews genocidal maniacs, or forces them to pass nonstop purity tests so you won’t justify murdering them.

— a Zionist who is completely anti Netanyahu, against Israeli actions in Gaza and the West Bank, anti settler, pro two state solution and cares very much about the Palestinian people. (And the vast majority of Jews share all of these views).

I already know what you’ll say in response, but no, you can’t just re-define words with long accepted meanings in order to make your hatred of Jews into something righteous.

Actually you're conveniently redefining Zionism to make it more palatable. Read up on the writings of the founding fathers of Zionism. Furthermore, provide evidence for your 100% claim. Jews make a significant portion of the anti-zionist movement. especially the younger ones in America. Lastly, one can attack Zionism without falling for the tactics of conflating the two given that so many Zionists are not Jewish (eg Christian evangelicals). Again, you do not need to be Jewish or Christian to be a Zionist, but you do need to be racist.

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Anonymous wrote:Antisemitism is the world’s oldest hatred. But I have read that it is really about people—bullies—who are unhappy with their own lives and take out their frustrations on Jews. Jews are a target for people on both political extremes.

This wasn't anti-semitism. They were targeted because they are Israeli Embassy officials. That is its own version of despicable hatred but it is an important distinction.

How could he have known they were embassy officials? That part seems unclear

Pretty obvious from his socials along with his advocacy for genocide and ethnic cleansing and parroting Zionist talking points.

I actually hope he knew they were diplomats. otherwise the implication is that he just sought out a Jewish location and hunted Jews.

Is that any different from what Israel does every day?

Well, yes. Hunting jews for sport in the US based on their identity is different than genocide against Palestinians in the form of war based on declared national interest. Both are horrible and murderous. But they are different crimes with different motivations.

Which do you think is worse, the killing of two Zionists (not two Jews which you deliberately misrepresented) or a genocide that involves killing of children as a hobby? Not my words but that of the cheif of the isreali army, Yair Golan

Nearly 100% of Jews identify as Zionists, which has always simply been about Jewish self determination. “Progressives” have unilaterally re-defined the word to mean “pro-genocide” (and they have also unilaterally redefined the word genocide), which conveniently makes nearly all Jews genocidal maniacs, or forces them to pass nonstop purity tests so you won’t justify murdering them.

— a Zionist who is completely anti Netanyahu, against Israeli actions in Gaza and the West Bank, anti settler, pro two state solution and cares very much about the Palestinian people. (And the vast majority of Jews share all of these views).

I already know what you’ll say in response, but no, you can’t just re-define words with long accepted meanings in order to make your hatred of Jews into something righteous.

Actually you're conveniently redefining Zionism to make it more palatable. Read up on the writings of the founding fathers of Zionism. Furthermore, provide evidence for your 100% claim. Jews make a significant portion of the anti-zionist movement. especially the younger ones in America. Lastly, one can attack Zionism without falling for the tactics of conflating the two given that so many Zionists are not Jewish (eg Christian evangelicals). Again, you do not need to be Jewish or Christian to be a Zionist, but you do need to be racist.

Actually, I'm not. Regardless of what the founding fathers of Zionism wrote, Zionism has meant something specific to Jews for decades, and it's not being in favor murdering Palestinians. The fact that over ninety percent of Jews identify as Zionists is easy to verify. Christian evangelicals are completely irrelevant, as their only interest is in end times and the resurrection. Finally, you probably mean bigotry, not racism, since Jews and Palestinians are ethnically the same.

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Anonymous wrote:I think both sides have been absolutely horrendous throughout this whole thing. They both have legitimate and serious gripes, but neither has handled the situation well, and this has been the case for my entire life. My father was a journalist who studied the conflicts going back to the 1960s, and I grew up with it in the 1960s. Terrorism, suicide bombings, rocket attacks on the Palestinian side, versus decades of bad policy and outright crimes on the Israeli side, and complete intransigence, many bad-faith acts, poison-pill offers, lack of earnest negotiation. For decades.

A reset is needed. Fresh start, with a different set of voices.

+1 I don’t even see a pathway forward for this. Decades of failed diplomatic efforts and neither government seems genuinely interested in peace. Hopefully it will simmer down soon, but they are probably still going to be fighting 20 years from now at this rate.

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Anonymous wrote:Antisemitism is the world’s oldest hatred. But I have read that it is really about people—bullies—who are unhappy with their own lives and take out their frustrations on Jews. Jews are a target for people on both political extremes.

This wasn't anti-semitism. They were targeted because they are Israeli Embassy officials. That is its own version of despicable hatred but it is an important distinction.

How could he have known they were embassy officials? That part seems unclear

Pretty obvious from his socials along with his advocacy for genocide and ethnic cleansing and parroting Zionist talking points.

I actually hope he knew they were diplomats. otherwise the implication is that he just sought out a Jewish location and hunted Jews.

Is that any different from what Israel does every day?

Well, yes. Hunting jews for sport in the US based on their identity is different than genocide against Palestinians in the form of war based on declared national interest. Both are horrible and murderous. But they are different crimes with different motivations.

Which do you think is worse, the killing of two Zionists (not two Jews which you deliberately misrepresented) or a genocide that involves killing of children as a hobby? Not my words but that of the cheif of the isreali army, Yair Golan

Nearly 100% of Jews identify as Zionists, which has always simply been about Jewish self determination. “Progressives” have unilaterally re-defined the word to mean “pro-genocide” (and they have also unilaterally redefined the word genocide), which conveniently makes nearly all Jews genocidal maniacs, or forces them to pass nonstop purity tests so you won’t justify murdering them.

— a Zionist who is completely anti Netanyahu, against Israeli actions in Gaza and the West Bank, anti settler, pro two state solution and cares very much about the Palestinian people. (And the vast majority of Jews share all of these views).

I already know what you’ll say in response, but no, you can’t just re-define words with long accepted meanings in order to make your hatred of Jews into something righteous.

This sounds so reasonable and inline with what most Americans think, imo -- Israel should get to exist and exist peacefully, but the expansionism and the harsh treatment of the Palestinians is really problematic.

If many Jews share your views, why do some of us here keep getting lambasted for being "anti-semitic" since we find the murder of both Israelis and Gazans horrific? We are told we are "justifying" the DC murders by recognizing that the Gazans are being killed by Israel.

Perhaps I'm wrong, but I feel like many Jews are--sort of understandably, given the history, but not accurately--far aware of and sensitive to their own vulnerability to Hamas/Iran/other terrorism than they are of the desperate vulnerability of Gazans to the violence of Israel.

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People don’t just spontaneously hate you. That’s Zionist propaganda that has infected your perspective. Us vs. them.

If Israel wasn’t directly responsible for 77 years of brutal subjugation, nobody would have the basis to speak out against what’s occurring right now.

I really want to know how old you are. My guess is no older than 40. You probably don’t know who the snake Arafat was and how he turned down a sweet deal that Bill Clinton Rabin and Peres negotiated. You think you know things. You don’t. A little knowledge, as social media has shown, can be a very dangerous thing

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People don’t just spontaneously hate you. That’s Zionist propaganda that has infected your perspective. Us vs. them.

If Israel wasn’t directly responsible for 77 years of brutal subjugation, nobody would have the basis to speak out against what’s occurring right now.

Sorry. Previous post might be confusing. This was the response to the aforementioned…

I really want to know how old you are. My guess is no older than 40. You probably don’t know who the snake Arafat was and how he turned down a sweet deal that Bill Clinton Rabin and Peres negotiated. You think you know things. You don’t. A little knowledge, as social media has shown, can be a very dangerous thing

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People don’t just spontaneously hate you. That’s Zionist propaganda that has infected your perspective. Us vs. them.

If Israel wasn’t directly responsible for 77 years of brutal subjugation, nobody would have the basis to speak out against what’s occurring right now.

Sorry. Previous post might be confusing. This was the response to the aforementioned…

I really want to know how old you are. My guess is no older than 40. You probably don’t know who the snake Arafat was and how he turned down a sweet deal that Bill Clinton Rabin and Peres negotiated. You think you know things. You don’t. A little knowledge, as social media has shown, can be a very dangerous thing

Sweet deal. You sad, sad dolt.

Here, let me steal your home, rob you of your material wealth and possessions, kill your family, and then after decades of brutal subjugation, squawk and cry victim (like you always do) when you refuse my “sweet deal peace offering” of a minuscule portion of what I violently stole from you … 60 years ago.

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People don’t just spontaneously hate you. That’s Zionist propaganda that has infected your perspective. Us vs. them.

If Israel wasn’t directly responsible for 77 years of brutal subjugation, nobody would have the basis to speak out against what’s occurring right now.

Sorry. Previous post might be confusing. This was the response to the aforementioned…

I really want to know how old you are. My guess is no older than 40. You probably don’t know who the snake Arafat was and how he turned down a sweet deal that Bill Clinton Rabin and Peres negotiated. You think you know things. You don’t. A little knowledge, as social media has shown, can be a very dangerous thing

dp: Yes, Arafat was a snake. But that's the problem here: both sides can point to an endless list of greivances and cast blame on the other. They each have to suck it up and accept perceived unfairness, or it will never end.

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Anonymous wrote:Antisemitism is the world’s oldest hatred. But I have read that it is really about people—bullies—who are unhappy with their own lives and take out their frustrations on Jews. Jews are a target for people on both political extremes.

This wasn't anti-semitism. They were targeted because they are Israeli Embassy officials. That is its own version of despicable hatred but it is an important distinction.

How could he have known they were embassy officials? That part seems unclear

Pretty obvious from his socials along with his advocacy for genocide and ethnic cleansing and parroting Zionist talking points.

I actually hope he knew they were diplomats. otherwise the implication is that he just sought out a Jewish location and hunted Jews.

Is that any different from what Israel does every day?

Well, yes. Hunting jews for sport in the US based on their identity is different than genocide against Palestinians in the form of war based on declared national interest. Both are horrible and murderous. But they are different crimes with different motivations.

Which do you think is worse, the killing of two Zionists (not two Jews which you deliberately misrepresented) or a genocide that involves killing of children as a hobby? Not my words but that of the cheif of the isreali army, Yair Golan

Nearly 100% of Jews identify as Zionists, which has always simply been about Jewish self determination. “Progressives” have unilaterally re-defined the word to mean “pro-genocide” (and they have also unilaterally redefined the word genocide), which conveniently makes nearly all Jews genocidal maniacs, or forces them to pass nonstop purity tests so you won’t justify murdering them.

— a Zionist who is completely anti Netanyahu, against Israeli actions in Gaza and the West Bank, anti settler, pro two state solution and cares very much about the Palestinian people. (And the vast majority of Jews share all of these views).

I already know what you’ll say in response, but no, you can’t just re-define words with long accepted meanings in order to make your hatred of Jews into something righteous.

Actually you're conveniently redefining Zionism to make it more palatable. Read up on the writings of the founding fathers of Zionism. Furthermore, provide evidence for your 100% claim. Jews make a significant portion of the anti-zionist movement. especially the younger ones in America. Lastly, one can attack Zionism without falling for the tactics of conflating the two given that so many Zionists are not Jewish (eg Christian evangelicals). Again, you do not need to be Jewish or Christian to be a Zionist, but you do need to be racist.

Actually, I'm not. Regardless of what the founding fathers of Zionism wrote, Zionism has meant something specific to Jews for decades, and it's not being in favor murdering Palestinians. The fact that over ninety percent of Jews identify as Zionists is easy to verify. Christian evangelicals are completely irrelevant, as their only interest is in end times and the resurrection. Finally, you probably mean bigotry, not racism, since Jews and Palestinians are ethnically the same.

Actually you are. How do you think Zionists European settler colonizers created a nation completely outside of Europe state and displace the local population? Do you think it was done peacefully? The whole premise is colonization and occupation of one group of people that thinks itself to be superior to the other. Again, this is why Zionism is racist to its core. If Palestinians were to be treated equally as the colonizers, then you would have a democracy where they would be the majority and they would control power.

And please don't be blatantly lie and say the european colonizers are ethnically the same as Palestinians. You're already said multiple mistruths in order to justify an evil philosophy probably just to make yourself feel better.