Trump tariffs: ruin U.S. economy until 2040

[Anonymous]

MAGA isn’t afraid of disagreements. They’re aren’t cultists.

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Anonymous wrote:Closing the barn door after all the livestock have escaped

So since Trump would never sign this it might pass with a veto-proof majority?

We're going to have to wait until next week, or maybe after Easter, until the House comes back to town. Johnson sent them home on Tuesday in a hissy fit.

Because he’s too afraid to allow members with newborns to vote by proxy for six weeks. #Priorities

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To everyone reading this on their IPhone/IPad. It’s made in China 🇨🇳. Your next upgrade is going to be much more expensive after this. But I just, USA USA USA 💀

Yep, that’s why I got a new one about a month ago.

[Anonymous]

https://bsky.app/profile/jysexton.bsky.social/post/3llwa2tmww22q

Man it sure is weird that there’s a manufactured economic crisis that will require historic reindustrialization on the cheap sans worker protections while unions are being marginalized and children prepared for labor and the oligarchs who own the president need support for automation technology.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If tariffs are unfair, why is it ok for other countries to put them on USA made goods?

Who said they were unfair? They are economically destructive to the US at the rates and breadth Trump is doing them.

People on this thread, saying it is a tax on Americans, hurting the poor and helping the wealthy.
Don't other countries realize this when they are putting tariffs up?

sure, but the US started this trade war right now. It's like saying Ukrainians shouldn't fight back against the Russians because their citizens are dying. When another country tries to hurt you, you don't just roll over because your people might get hurt.

The other countries put up their tariffs first.

Don't ask Grok about tariffs, it doesn't understand them. Use your own brain instead of a chatbot. Other countries did not put up their tariffs first. When Trump uses the words "reciprocal tariffs", he is wrong. He is using the wrong words. These tariffs aren't reciprocal, we are raising them first.

What are the tariff rates for US goods being sold in Vietnam?
How about Europe?
Are you saying the answer is zero?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If tariffs are unfair, why is it ok for other countries to put them on USA made goods?

Who said they were unfair? They are economically destructive to the US at the rates and breadth Trump is doing them.

People on this thread, saying it is a tax on Americans, hurting the poor and helping the wealthy.
Don't other countries realize this when they are putting tariffs up?

sure, but the US started this trade war right now. It's like saying Ukrainians shouldn't fight back against the Russians because their citizens are dying. When another country tries to hurt you, you don't just roll over because your people might get hurt.[/quote
The other countries put up their tariffs first.

Most of the trade between MX and Canada had no tariffs before Trump. Trump basically scrapped NAFTA and then "renegotiated" a new deal called USMCA.

Example: ag and dairy products. Trump claimed that Canada was imposing tariffs on dairy products from the US, but that was misleading. There were threshold quotas, which were quite high, and if the import met that threshold, then it was subjected to tariffs. The US had similar rules. But, US exports have never met that threshold, and so none of the exports were taxed.

Ag exports did not have tariffs.

https://www.factcheck.org/2025/04/trumps-misleading-claim-on-canadian-dairy-tariffs/

In 2024, the U.S. exported more than $1.1 billion in dairy products to Canada, a nearly 55% increase in exports since 2020. None of it was subject to triple-digit Canadian tariffs. Canada is the second-largest international recipient of U.S. dairy behind Mexico.

the US has a similar system of trade protection for dairy products, albeit with generally lower Over-Quota Tariff rates.” For example, he told us that while butter imported from Canada to the U.S. faces no tariffs under a predetermined quota threshold, it is subject to over-quota tariffs of about 24%, or up to 39%.

The USDA website states that under both the USMCA and NAFTA, “almost all agricultural products traded between the United States and Canada” face no tariffs or quotas.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote: Stellantis announces they are immediately laying off 900 American workers at five auto plants across the US because of Trump’s tariffs.

A booming manufacturing economy, right here

Whirlpool also laying off 650 in Iowa.

iS tHiS liBEraTiOn?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Closing the barn door after all the livestock have escaped

So since Trump would never sign this it might pass with a veto-proof majority?

We're going to have to wait until next week, or maybe after Easter, until the House comes back to town. Johnson sent them home on Tuesday in a hissy fit.

Because he’s too afraid to allow members with newborns to vote by proxy for six weeks. #Priorities

Allowing proxy votes is probably unconstitutional. Certainly anything Republicans pass would get thrown out by a Democrat judge saying proxy vote.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Closing the barn door after all the livestock have escaped

Seriously. But, I still welcome it. It's going to be fun watching Trump argue with people in his own party.

This is how statutes/regulations happen - in response to when something bad happens.

I'm a bit astonished that Grassley went along with this. On January 6th, he was third (I think?) in line to the throne.

Whirlpool just closed a factory in Iowa in response to this.

No evidence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If tariffs are unfair, why is it ok for other countries to put them on USA made goods?

Who said they were unfair? They are economically destructive to the US at the rates and breadth Trump is doing them.

People on this thread, saying it is a tax on Americans, hurting the poor and helping the wealthy.
Don't other countries realize this when they are putting tariffs up?

sure, but the US started this trade war right now. It's like saying Ukrainians shouldn't fight back against the Russians because their citizens are dying. When another country tries to hurt you, you don't just roll over because your people might get hurt.

The other countries put up their tariffs first.

Don't ask Grok about tariffs, it doesn't understand them. Use your own brain instead of a chatbot. Other countries did not put up their tariffs first. When Trump uses the words "reciprocal tariffs", he is wrong. He is using the wrong words. These tariffs aren't reciprocal, we are raising them first.

What are the tariff rates for US goods being sold in Vietnam?
How about Europe?
Are you saying the answer is zero?

None of this has anything to do with tariff rates. It is solely based on trade deficits.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Closing the barn door after all the livestock have escaped

Seriously. But, I still welcome it. It's going to be fun watching Trump argue with people in his own party.

This is how statutes/regulations happen - in response to when something bad happens.

I'm a bit astonished that Grassley went along with this. On January 6th, he was third (I think?) in line to the throne.

Whirlpool just closed a factory in Iowa in response to this.

No evidence.

Not too hard to confirm in less than 5 seconds.

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/money/business/2025/04/01/whirlpool-layoffs-amana-iowa-plant-losing-one-third-of-workforce/82757127007/

[Anonymous]

IMO, the reason the US did not impose a lot of tariffs on goods from third world countries is because of America's insatiable appetite for cheap goods. We got used to it. Some 70% of our economy is driven by consumers. It's not liberals or conservatives. It's Americans. We are probably the most materialistic country in the world. I have friends/family in Europe and Asia, and our consumer spending is way higher than theirs. I will say that some of the other countries are becoming just as materialistic as we are, though.

Wages in the US is actually a lot higher than the vast majority of other countries. At the same time, the cost of college and healthcare is exponentially larger compared to those other countries. That's not going to change anytime soon.

So, now we will have higher costs in consumer products, college and healthcare. Our standard of living will be lower, more on par with Europeans.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Closing the barn door after all the livestock have escaped

So since Trump would never sign this it might pass with a veto-proof majority?

We're going to have to wait until next week, or maybe after Easter, until the House comes back to town. Johnson sent them home on Tuesday in a hissy fit.

Because he’s too afraid to allow members with newborns to vote by proxy for six weeks. #Priorities

Allowing proxy votes is probably unconstitutional. Certainly anything Republicans pass would get thrown out by a Democrat judge saying proxy vote.

More like the other way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If tariffs are unfair, why is it ok for other countries to put them on USA made goods?

Who said they were unfair? They are economically destructive to the US at the rates and breadth Trump is doing them.

People on this thread, saying it is a tax on Americans, hurting the poor and helping the wealthy.
Don't other countries realize this when they are putting tariffs up?

Did you know that other countries have different internal economic features and social safety nets?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Closing the barn door after all the livestock have escaped

So since Trump would never sign this it might pass with a veto-proof majority?

We're going to have to wait until next week, or maybe after Easter, until the House comes back to town. Johnson sent them home on Tuesday in a hissy fit.

Because he’s too afraid to allow members with newborns to vote by proxy for six weeks. #Priorities

Allowing proxy votes is probably unconstitutional. Certainly anything Republicans pass would get thrown out by a Democrat judge saying proxy vote.

More like the other way.

Yep, it's always projection with the MAGAs.

"The Court concludes that, by including members who were indisputably absent in the quorum count, the Act at issue passed in violation of the Constitution’s Quorum Clause,” wrote Hendrix, an appointee of former President Donald Trump."
https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/27/politics/house-proxy-voting-spending-bill-unconstitutional/index.html