Pelosi’s husband assaulted during breakin

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The LEO is responding to a dispatch for a wellness check. From what we know this wasn’t reported as a burglary, barricading situation or hostage scenario due to the nature of the 9-1-1 interaction. Someone opens the front door and the officer encounters two people grasping a hammer which suddenly transforms into a violent assault.

But their alarm would be going off, so I'm not understanding. Windows were broken. Maybe different in San Francisco, but in our very middle class suburb of Atlanta, almost everyone has an alarm that we can hear for a block or two.

So what. Your experience is not universal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The LEO is responding to a dispatch for a wellness check. From what we know this wasn’t reported as a burglary, barricading situation or hostage scenario due to the nature of the 9-1-1 interaction. Someone opens the front door and the officer encounters two people grasping a hammer which suddenly transforms into a violent assault.

But their alarm would be going off, so I'm not understanding. Windows were broken. Maybe different in San Francisco, but in our very middle class suburb of Atlanta, almost everyone has an alarm that we can hear for a block or two.

So what. Your experience is not universal.

Did I say my experience was universal? I'm asking a question in reference to the conversation on this thread. Maybe their alarm is silent to the neighbors but heard by the police?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The LEO is responding to a dispatch for a wellness check. From what we know this wasn’t reported as a burglary, barricading situation or hostage scenario due to the nature of the 9-1-1 interaction. Someone opens the front door and the officer encounters two people grasping a hammer which suddenly transforms into a violent assault.

But their alarm would be going off, so I'm not understanding. Windows were broken. Maybe different in San Francisco, but in our very middle class suburb of Atlanta, almost everyone has an alarm that we can hear for a block or two.

The alarm bells are going off in your head, so you're hearing them alright. I bet you see boogeymenn on your cameras too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The LEO is responding to a dispatch for a wellness check. From what we know this wasn’t reported as a burglary, barricading situation or hostage scenario due to the nature of the 9-1-1 interaction. Someone opens the front door and the officer encounters two people grasping a hammer which suddenly transforms into a violent assault.

But their alarm would be going off, so I'm not understanding. Windows were broken. Maybe different in San Francisco, but in our very middle class suburb of Atlanta, almost everyone has an alarm that we can hear for a block or two.

Maybe the person second in line to succeed the president doesn’t have some janky sh1t from ADT? There are a couple of high end boutique security system providers in DC. Or maybe the victim forget to set the alarm that night? Pacific Heights isn’t exactly a high crime neighborhood. The facts will be revealed in due course.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The LEO is responding to a dispatch for a wellness check. From what we know this wasn’t reported as a burglary, barricading situation or hostage scenario due to the nature of the 9-1-1 interaction. Someone opens the front door and the officer encounters two people grasping a hammer which suddenly transforms into a violent assault.

But their alarm would be going off, so I'm not understanding. Windows were broken. Maybe different in San Francisco, but in our very middle class suburb of Atlanta, almost everyone has an alarm that we can hear for a block or two.

So what. Your experience is not universal.

Did I say my experience was universal? I'm asking a question in reference to the conversation on this thread. Maybe their alarm is silent to the neighbors but heard by the police?

Most alarms are sent to a private monitoring company which then contacts 911.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The LEO is responding to a dispatch for a wellness check. From what we know this wasn’t reported as a burglary, barricading situation or hostage scenario due to the nature of the 9-1-1 interaction. Someone opens the front door and the officer encounters two people grasping a hammer which suddenly transforms into a violent assault.

But their alarm would be going off, so I'm not understanding. Windows were broken. Maybe different in San Francisco, but in our very middle class suburb of Atlanta, almost everyone has an alarm that we can hear for a block or two.

So what. Your experience is not universal.

Did I say my experience was universal? I'm asking a question in reference to the conversation on this thread. Maybe their alarm is silent to the neighbors but heard by the police?

Most alarms are sent to a private monitoring company which then contacts 911.

PP here. Thank you. That's what I would have assumed. I think most people here are genuinely concerned and shocked to think of a man in his 80's being assaulted with a hammer. I think of my dad and wouldn't want the police to hesitate to protect him.

[jsteele]

I can't be 100% sure, but I believe this is the house in which David DePepe lived in Richmond, CA. It looks like the garage has been converted into a living quarter since the garage door appears to have been replaced by a wall with windows.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Justice Fepartment https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1548106/download

If at 2:23 am a resident calls 911 about an unknown male in a residence why call it a wellness check? Police got there at 2:31 and the front door was opened to 2 police officers. Officers see both holding one hammer and don't immediately enter and get the potential weapon...

Homeowner called for an emergency intruder and the protocol is first a chat? What did police think it was at that time? A carpenter?

Just to be clear about this for you. Pelosi was woken up while in his bed. The intruder asked where Nancy was. Pelosi said she was not home and wouldn't be home for several days. The intruder said he would wait. Pelosi went to the bathroom where his phone was charging. He dialed 911, but I don't believe spoke directly to the operator. Instead, the operator could hear the discussion between the two men and pieced together that something untoward was going on. The operator then alerted police who conducted a high priority wellness check.

The sources for this are the SFPD press conference which you can watch on Youtube and the DOJ press release and statement which are linked earlier in this thread. During the press conference, the police chief praised Heather Grives, the 911 operator for using her intuition in guessing that this was an emergency.

Yes I understand the chain of events. Dispatcher Grimes escalated the call to what might be a priority A in SF from a B or C. Unless they got there faster on a B [priority wellness check] given the call and owners of residence. What I don't get is the request to drop the hammer given the reason the police were at the house. Immediate hammer removal then questions would have meant no skull fracture.

Spoken like someone who has never been in a tense, scary, uncertain situation.

It's really easy to come up with the best path forward when you're sitting there comfortable in front of your computer thinking about solutions. Tell us, are you a fireman? A first responder? An EMT? Are you regularly put in situations where you have to make fast, potentially life-saving decisions?

How do people not understand that in real time chaos, unclarity, and the need to act fast will lead to outcomes that might have been different if you were able to have time to ponder the best way forward while looking at the situation from the outside?

I've been in tense and scary situations but on DOJ "When the door was
opened, Pelosi and DEPAPE were both holding a hammer with one hand and DEPAPE had his
other hand holding onto Pelosi’s forearm. Pelosi greeted the officers. The officers asked them
what was going on. DEPAPE responded that everything was good. Officers then asked Pelosi
and DEPAPE to drop the hammer."

1 officer is named and some news articles use plural-officers. 2? So I'd prefer the 1st thing to be drop the hammer and get in position while saying it. A hammer at 2:30 am in the hands of 2 is not something to ponder.

OK so do you think the answer is probably something innocuous or are you disputing the account because you think there's a giant involved coverup with bribes to keep people quiet? Nothing you say actually makes sense to my brain, it just makes you sound crazy because you are implying that there's a coverup for.... what? You never say. You sound like a conspiracy theorist 100% based on all the traits and qualitie previously listed.

What??? My post had zero to do with conspiracy theories or coverups or politics or bribes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Justice Fepartment https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1548106/download

If at 2:23 am a resident calls 911 about an unknown male in a residence why call it a wellness check? Police got there at 2:31 and the front door was opened to 2 police officers. Officers see both holding one hammer and don't immediately enter and get the potential weapon...

Homeowner called for an emergency intruder and the protocol is first a chat? What did police think it was at that time? A carpenter?

Just to be clear about this for you. Pelosi was woken up while in his bed. The intruder asked where Nancy was. Pelosi said she was not home and wouldn't be home for several days. The intruder said he would wait. Pelosi went to the bathroom where his phone was charging. He dialed 911, but I don't believe spoke directly to the operator. Instead, the operator could hear the discussion between the two men and pieced together that something untoward was going on. The operator then alerted police who conducted a high priority wellness check.

The sources for this are the SFPD press conference which you can watch on Youtube and the DOJ press release and statement which are linked earlier in this thread. During the press conference, the police chief praised Heather Grives, the 911 operator for using her intuition in guessing that this was an emergency.

Yes I understand the chain of events. Dispatcher Grimes escalated the call to what might be a priority A in SF from a B or C. Unless they got there faster on a B [priority wellness check] given the call and owners of residence. What I don't get is the request to drop the hammer given the reason the police were at the house. Immediate hammer removal then questions would have meant no skull fracture.

Spoken like someone who has never been in a tense, scary, uncertain situation.

It's really easy to come up with the best path forward when you're sitting there comfortable in front of your computer thinking about solutions. Tell us, are you a fireman? A first responder? An EMT? Are you regularly put in situations where you have to make fast, potentially life-saving decisions?

How do people not understand that in real time chaos, unclarity, and the need to act fast will lead to outcomes that might have been different if you were able to have time to ponder the best way forward while looking at the situation from the outside?

I've been in tense and scary situations but on DOJ "When the door was
opened, Pelosi and DEPAPE were both holding a hammer with one hand and DEPAPE had his
other hand holding onto Pelosi’s forearm. Pelosi greeted the officers. The officers asked them
what was going on. DEPAPE responded that everything was good. Officers then asked Pelosi
and DEPAPE to drop the hammer."

1 officer is named and some news articles use plural-officers. 2? So I'd prefer the 1st thing to be drop the hammer and get in position while saying it. A hammer at 2:30 am in the hands of 2 is not something to ponder.

OK so do you think the answer is probably something innocuous or are you disputing the account because you think there's a giant involved coverup with bribes to keep people quiet? Nothing you say actually makes sense to my brain, it just makes you sound crazy because you are implying that there's a coverup for.... what? You never say. You sound like a conspiracy theorist 100% based on all the traits and qualitie previously listed.

What??? My post had zero to do with conspiracy theories or coverups or politics or bribes.

DP, but your post was misinterpreted by me as well. You came off as not believing the account because it isn’t what you would do, and your comment was posted within a dialogue of conspiracy gaslighters nit-picking and misrepresenting the description of events because they can’t accept that Pelosi is an innocent victim.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The LEO is responding to a dispatch for a wellness check. From what we know this wasn’t reported as a burglary, barricading situation or hostage scenario due to the nature of the 9-1-1 interaction. Someone opens the front door and the officer encounters two people grasping a hammer which suddenly transforms into a violent assault.

But their alarm would be going off, so I'm not understanding. Windows were broken. Maybe different in San Francisco, but in our very middle class suburb of Atlanta, almost everyone has an alarm that we can hear for a block or two.

So what. Your experience is not universal.

Did I say my experience was universal? I'm asking a question in reference to the conversation on this thread. Maybe their alarm is silent to the neighbors but heard by the police?

You implied it was relevant to this story...because why?

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:I can't be 100% sure, but I believe this is the house in which David DePepe lived in Richmond, CA. It looks like the garage has been converted into a living quarter since the garage door appears to have been replaced by a wall with windows.

That's a surprisingly decent part of town for a drug addicted, mentally ill, homeless nudist to reside. I was expecting him to live in the really bad part of town. That's a family neighborhood, just behind the Natural Grocery. One of the kids in my daughter's girl scout troop lives very near there. Also, it's not uncommon for people to turn garages into apartments or use sheds as guest rooms/in-law suites. It's just so crowded out here. I'd be surprised if his rent wasn't at least 600-800, if he was being charged rent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Justice Fepartment https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1548106/download

If at 2:23 am a resident calls 911 about an unknown male in a residence why call it a wellness check? Police got there at 2:31 and the front door was opened to 2 police officers. Officers see both holding one hammer and don't immediately enter and get the potential weapon...

Homeowner called for an emergency intruder and the protocol is first a chat? What did police think it was at that time? A carpenter?

Just to be clear about this for you. Pelosi was woken up while in his bed. The intruder asked where Nancy was. Pelosi said she was not home and wouldn't be home for several days. The intruder said he would wait. Pelosi went to the bathroom where his phone was charging. He dialed 911, but I don't believe spoke directly to the operator. Instead, the operator could hear the discussion between the two men and pieced together that something untoward was going on. The operator then alerted police who conducted a high priority wellness check.

The sources for this are the SFPD press conference which you can watch on Youtube and the DOJ press release and statement which are linked earlier in this thread. During the press conference, the police chief praised Heather Grives, the 911 operator for using her intuition in guessing that this was an emergency.

Yes I understand the chain of events. Dispatcher Grimes escalated the call to what might be a priority A in SF from a B or C. Unless they got there faster on a B [priority wellness check] given the call and owners of residence. What I don't get is the request to drop the hammer given the reason the police were at the house. Immediate hammer removal then questions would have meant no skull fracture.

Spoken like someone who has never been in a tense, scary, uncertain situation.

It's really easy to come up with the best path forward when you're sitting there comfortable in front of your computer thinking about solutions. Tell us, are you a fireman? A first responder? An EMT? Are you regularly put in situations where you have to make fast, potentially life-saving decisions?

How do people not understand that in real time chaos, unclarity, and the need to act fast will lead to outcomes that might have been different if you were able to have time to ponder the best way forward while looking at the situation from the outside?

I've been in tense and scary situations but on DOJ "When the door was
opened, Pelosi and DEPAPE were both holding a hammer with one hand and DEPAPE had his
other hand holding onto Pelosi’s forearm. Pelosi greeted the officers. The officers asked them
what was going on. DEPAPE responded that everything was good. Officers then asked Pelosi
and DEPAPE to drop the hammer."

1 officer is named and some news articles use plural-officers. 2? So I'd prefer the 1st thing to be drop the hammer and get in position while saying it. A hammer at 2:30 am in the hands of 2 is not something to ponder.

OK so do you think the answer is probably something innocuous or are you disputing the account because you think there's a giant involved coverup with bribes to keep people quiet? Nothing you say actually makes sense to my brain, it just makes you sound crazy because you are implying that there's a coverup for.... what? You never say. You sound like a conspiracy theorist 100% based on all the traits and qualitie previously listed.

What??? My post had zero to do with conspiracy theories or coverups or politics or bribes.

DP, but your post was misinterpreted by me as well. You came off as not believing the account because it isn’t what you would do, and your comment was posted within a dialogue of conspiracy gaslighters nit-picking and misrepresenting the description of events because they can’t accept that Pelosi is an innocent victim.

Thanks. Pelosi is a totally innocent victim and I am deeply saddened that he was bludgeoned.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:That's a surprisingly decent part of town for a drug addicted, mentally ill, homeless nudist to reside. I was expecting him to live in the really bad part of town. That's a family neighborhood, just behind the Natural Grocery. One of the kids in my daughter's girl scout troop lives very near there. Also, it's not uncommon for people to turn garages into apartments or use sheds as guest rooms/in-law suites. It's just so crowded out here. I'd be surprised if his rent wasn't at least 600-800, if he was being charged rent.

DePape was able to hold a job as a carpenter for 6 years. The guy for whom he worked helped him find a place to live:

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/01/us/pelosi-attack-depape-arraignment.html

"After working together for a few years, Mr. Ciccarelli helped Mr. DePape get away from the streets, moving him into a friend’s garage studio in Richmond, Calif."

Ciccarelli doesn't say anything about DePape being drug addicted or mentally il. He was homeless, but that was years ago. I think the drug addiction and mental illness have been exaggerated.

[Anonymous]

He pleaded not guilty to the state charges.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The LEO is responding to a dispatch for a wellness check. From what we know this wasn’t reported as a burglary, barricading situation or hostage scenario due to the nature of the 9-1-1 interaction. Someone opens the front door and the officer encounters two people grasping a hammer which suddenly transforms into a violent assault.

But their alarm would be going off, so I'm not understanding. Windows were broken. Maybe different in San Francisco, but in our very middle class suburb of Atlanta, almost everyone has an alarm that we can hear for a block or two.

The alarm bells are going off in your head, so you're hearing them alright. I bet you see boogeymenn on your cameras too.

DP. Why are some of you so incredibly defensive whenever anyone asks a question about this? Back off.